MN Kumar wrote:
nageshks wrote:This was a given. There is a significant section of Telangana-vadis (including hardcore Hindus), who see their identity in the Nizami Hyderabad. This is what makes them different from other Andhra folks. So, I am not remotely surprised that Talibani regime is being allowed to flourish in Hyderabad. In the view of the hardcore Telangana-vadis, the Razakar domination is infinitely preferable to being subservient to the Andhrollu. Nizam is being recast as a great development patron, and is going to make a comeback as the patron saint of Telangana. The decks are being cleared for this development.
What crap is this? The former Nizam state covering Telangana, North Karnataka and South Maharashtra are one of the most backward areas in this region even today.
Take a look at this map, which measures poverty in Andhra Pradesh. http://oar.icrisat.org/6224/7/reddy_Ban ... _11_11.pdf
As you can see, only 3 (Medak, Warangal, and Mahabubnagar) of the 10 districts in Telangana are rated poor. On the other hand, all four districts of Rayalseema are rated poor, and so are two districts of Kosta. In fact, if any region has cause for complaining, it would be Rayalseema, rather than Telangana. In fact, per capita DDP in non-Hyderabad Telangana is hardly any lower than per capita DDP in Kosta. Now, why is Telangana `one of the most backward' regions?
Check your facts first. The Telangana sentiment was always there due to the negligence of the political elite. Take the help of Google chaha and see why a common man from Telangana is supporting a seperate state.
The common man of western & northern Telangana (which is where T-sentiment is highest) has been sold an impossible dream of jobs for everyone, at the expense of the thieving Andhrollu. Just see the umpteen statements of KCR and his party. The main problem to the upliftment of the common Telangana man, he has been told, is the presence of the Kosta thieves. This dream is going to unravel cruelly, if the administrative acumen of KCR thus far is any example, but that is another matter. What is the problem is that KCR and his merry men were not content with making the division an administrative one. They made it a division of the people. The Telangana person, though he speaks Telugu, was recast as something `not-Andhra'. One Telangana ideologue wanted to remove `Sanskritised Andhra' words and replace them with `Telangana slang'.http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 744511.cms
Even the cuisine of the Telangana is being made to be different from the Andhra cuisine. This is where the problem comes. There is no real separate Telangana identity so to speak-not large enough to make it a new people, anyway. Dialects of Telugu, accents, or a few Urdu words will not suffice to make it a new language or a new people. Consequently, a new identity has to be constructed. And the easiest way to construct one, the one which is still in the minds of the people, is the Nizami Telangana identity. I have heard Telangana people claim that they will adapt the Kakatiya identity, but that is going to prove a lot harder. For the simplest of all reasons. The Kakatiya kingdom has been dead for 700 years. No one remembers what it was like, and there isn't enough of it left to construct an identity out of it. Consequently, there is only one identity that is completely different from the Telugu identity of Telangana. This is why even RSS guys who hate MIM are harping about the glorious rule of the Nizam. They want the Nizami identity so that they can be different from the Andhra folks. This is why you see KCR's daughter pretending that Telangana was an independent state forcibly annexed into India, and that they were always different, and separate. It is the simple need to be different and construct their own identity.
Dont get into a tunnel view of seeing everything around Hyderabad.
Hyderabad exemplifies the problem, since Hyderabadi Telangana supporters have to be different from their neighbouring Andhra folks, and, therefore, Hyderabad will bear much of the pain, but the other regions will also have to live with the repercussions of the events in the capital. The problem is that what happens in Hyderabad will not remain localised in Hyderabad. It will spread into the Telangana interiors.
You just cant generalize by quoting a tweet of a person whose identity cant be confirmed. My father was a student during the earlier movement in the late 60's. Around 300 students were killed in police firing. The current agitation cant even be compared to the earlier ones.
I always supported a separate Telangana state, as you can see from my past posts. But that said, I supported an administrative division, not a division of the peoples as it is becoming now. This particular folly will have long term consequences.
Yes, the developments are concerning but stop posting your frustration and spreading false and generalized information.
I am neither frustrated, not spreading false information. I am posting just where the problem comes from. But that apart, I would welcome your clear refutation of my thesis. Looking for a healthy debate, not an exercise in name-calling.