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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Sachin » 04 Oct 2015 12:15

Now 'The Hindu' wants the IB to work based on its suggestions. The suggestions being focusing on "Hindutwa terror organisations".
Hindu fringe groups not yet on the radar of intelligence agencies

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby chetak » 04 Oct 2015 12:43

Sonugn wrote:Islamic State (ISIS) propaganda attracts non-Muslims too; Hindu Delhi girl is the latest terror aspirant
The latest aspirant from India to join the terror cult is a Hindu girl graduated from a top college in Delhi University. She was influenced by IS online justifications, and gained sympathy for the inhumane murderers. Her father, a retired army lieutenant colonel subsequently informed the National Investigation Agency (NIA) about the suspicious activities of her child
Out of the the 10 Kerala youth who were deported by UAE back to India for their links with jihadi media groups, 2 were Hindus.
In Australia, a Hindu individual, identified as Neil Prakash was a key recruiter for the Islamic State. Sydney has also launched an alert for a Buddhist who has converted to Islam recently and goes by the name of Abu Khaled al-Cambodi.


doesn't this idiot female realize that her sole "islamic" function is to perform "services" for stress relief and function as a sleeping pill??

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby SSridhar » 07 Oct 2015 13:01

Is JeM pushing Myanmar rebels into J&K? - Peerzada Ashiq, The Hindu
Is Jaish-e-Muhammad (JeM) pushing displaced Myanmar Muslim militants into the Kashmir Valley?

Security agencies are grappling with the identities of two JeM militants killed on Sunday at Harriparigam, a village in Awantipora, 30 km south of Srinagar. One of them was identified as Chota Burmi. Now, it is emerging that his real name is Abdul Rehman-al-Arkani, a possible member of the Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami Arakan, a militant group operating in Myanmar.

After the encounter on Sunday, the security agencies identified them as foreign militants Adil Pathan and Chota Burmi, active in south Kashmir for over two years to revive the JeM. However, a diary found at the site — the contents of which were exclusively accessed by The Hindu — leaves their identities inconclusive.

Sources said investigations revealed that Pathan was from Rawlakot in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK) and Burmi from Multan in Pakistan. “We are still investigating if Burmi was from Multan,” an investigator said.

Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami and Maulana Masood Azhar’s JeM enjoy close ties in Pakistan. Islami was founded by Maulana Abdul Quddus, a Myanmar Muslim who fled to Pakistan in the 1980s, operating from Korangi in Karachi. The group used to work closely with Ilyas Kashmiri, head of al-Qaeda’s 313 Brigade, the sources said.

The police said the slain militants had recruited two locals from south Kashmir. But the police zeroed in on them and stopped them from joining the militant ranks. “The duo was involved in the abduction of two persons from Peernard village in 2014. They were involved in many unlawful activities directed by commanders based in Pakistan,” a police spokesman said. “They were also coordinating with the Hizbul Mujahideen and the JeM. They tried to create impediments to last year’s elections and planned attacks in minority areas,” he said.

However, sources said, the killing of Pathan was reported in a gunfight with the security forces at Aaripal, a village in Tral, in July 2014. The police had identified him as the Pakistan-born Adil Pathan alias Madni of the JeM. Even then Madni operated in coordination with Hizbul Mujahideen militants in Tral. The mystery over Pathan continues as the same militant cannot be shown as killed twice in police records. Sources said Pathan, in his thirties, was first active in north Kashmir between 2004 and 2005. He returned to PoK and then shifted base to south Kashmir in 2013 so as to create sleeper cells for the JeM, taking instructions from handlers across the border.

The two militants were buried in Tral on Monday, with hundreds of locals and many masked youths taking part in the funeral.


HuJI- Bangladesh

Formed in 1992
Amir: Shawkat Osman
Strengthened by Afghan jihad returnees in the 90s during Khaleeda Zia’s regime.
Runs camps in Chittagong Hill Tracts, Cox’s Bazaar & along Burma border
Has close operational links with Indian Mujahideen (IM).

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Singha » 07 Oct 2015 14:15

time for some x-border raids into CHT and Arakan with secret approvals of their respective govts. they will thank us for cleaning some of the scum.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Singha » 09 Oct 2015 16:54

two IM terrorists detained in KSA. likely to be deported soon

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-tw ... ia-2133121

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Sachin » 09 Oct 2015 21:07

Singha wrote:two IM terrorists detained in KSA. likely to be deported soon

I am sure that a police party from Hyderabad would be at the airport singing the song "Aji root kar ab kahaan jaayiyega, jahan jaayiyega hame paayiyega". With the news of deportation now out in the open, it would not be a case of "arrested when waiting for a bus at Majestic bus stand at 0200hrs". And this also forces the NIA and Police to also have their case points ready as the arrest has to be recorded and within 24 hours the duo produced before a magistrate.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby chaanakya » 09 Oct 2015 22:53

Be ready for weepy parents on MSM talking about misguided young children who were nice in their schools.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Falijee » 09 Oct 2015 23:15

11 Indian Nuclear Scientists Died Unnatural Deaths in 4 Years: Government
Hidden Hand and /or foul play cannot be ruled out ; all such cases, make use of the concept of "plausible deniability"

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby SSridhar » 11 Oct 2015 17:25

Jail superintendents in Tamil Nadu receive 'al-Qaida' threat letters - Subburaj, ToI
Jail superintendents in Coimbatore, Trichy, Madurai and Vellore central prisons in Tamil Nadu have received threat letters sent by an unheard of outfit called Base Moment in the name of 'al-Qaida.'

The jail superintendents received the letters a few days after alleged fundamentalists — Panna Ismail, 'Police' Fakruddin, Munna and three others - had been transferred to Coimbatore, Trichy, Mudurai and Vellore jails from the central prison at Puzhal in Chennai in the wake of an assault on prison warders.

The letters, with same content, were posted from Ukkadam in Coimbatore district a few days ago.

All the letters had a similar message in English: "Continues encroachment of prison department...distressed prisoners...closed eyes of government...inarticulate justice and courts....Tamil Nadu will be resonance ...our mission started...count your days."

They contained a map of India with a picture of slain al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden.

The Coimbatore city police registered a case and investigation were on. The address written on the envelops was found to be fake, police said.

Recently, the Puzhal prison in Chennai witnessed an attempt by a group of Al Umma terrorists (that included the notorious 'Police Fakruddin' who is involved in several murders of Hindu Munnani leaders and shootouts and bombings) lodged there attempting to take as hostage some of the jail warders and planning to make an escape and also murdering them. They have now been shifted to Coimbatore, Vellore & Trichy, the three prisons which have received the threat letters. Just a few months back, there was a huge riot in Ambur on the Chennai-Bengaluru NH by Muslims during which women police officers were molested and the police station was ransacked and several vehicles plying on the road were attacked & damaged.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Sachin » 12 Oct 2015 10:23

Ernakulam police arrest suspected Maoist leader
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K.P had once planned to maintain a very strong database of the migrant labour population. But looks like it has stopped mid-way. The inputs for the arrest seems to have come from the IB, who may have been monitoring this chap's phone calls (or the phones of the party at the other end).

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby hnair » 12 Oct 2015 11:17

Sachin, nothing stops fully, in these matters. Slow maybe. Too much overheads to restart

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Dilbu » 15 Oct 2015 16:01

On 12th October this appeared on CPIM website.
Oppose Malabar Exercises
The Polit Bureau of the CPI(M) expresses its strong opposition to the Malabar joint naval exercises going to be conducted from the day after tomorrow, October 14 to 21.

Begun in 1992 as joint naval exercises between the Indian and US navies and institutionalized with the Indo-US defence framework agreement signed in 2005, the exercises are notable this year, for the participation of the Japanese navy. This reflects the strengthening of the trilateral security ties established between India, USA and Japan. In fact, the United States has been pressing for including Japan and Australia. This is part of the US “pivot” to the Asia-Pacific region, the aim of which is to contain China.

Joint military exercises amongst two or more countries are normally conducted when these countries perceive a common enemy. In this instance, who is the common enemy of India, USA and Japan? In the absence of such a common enemy, it is clear that this BJP government, under Prime Minister Modi, is signaling that the Malabar exercises symbolize India’s complete integration with the US military strategy in Asia.

Japan has made it clear that it considers China’s moves in the South China sea and the region its prime concern for strengthening security ties with India. Such a strategic military tie up with the United States and Japan is harmful for India’s strategic independence and autonomy. India should not become a subservient ally of US military strategy in Asia.

The Polit Bureau calls upon all patriotic and anti-imperialist forces to oppose these exercises.


On the same day this news appeared. Coincidence? :-?
Yechury to hold talks with Chinese Communist Party in Beijing
CPI(M) General Secretary Sitaram Yechury will hold talks with top leaders of Chinese Communist Party (CCP) in Beijing tomorrow.

Yechury has been invited to China by the central committee of CCP.

He will also participate in a three-day special conference of Asian political parties to be held in Beijing till October 16.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby vishvak » 15 Oct 2015 23:15

SSridhar wrote:Jail superintendents in Tamil Nadu receive 'al-Qaida' threat letters - Subburaj, ToI
<SNIP>

<SNIP> Just a few months back, there was a huge riot in Ambur on the Chennai-Bengaluru NH by Muslims during which women police officers were molested and the police station was ransacked and several vehicles plying on the road were attacked & damaged.

If I remember correctly, some time back in Maharashtra some farmers ran onto Mumbai-Pune expressway while protesting over some issue and were fired upon. Wonder why the same strictures do not apply on NH.
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Got to have very strict discipline enforced on highways.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Prem » 16 Oct 2015 03:32

Mangaluru: Key eyewitness in Prashant murder case found hanging
http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_dis ... _id=363218
Mangaluru, Oct 15: Almost a week after the murder of flower vendor and Bajrang Dal activist Prashant Poojary in Moodbidri, a key eyewitness in the case allegedly committed suicide in a shed in Moodbidri on Thursday October 15.The deceased has been identified as Vaman Poojary (68).Vaman had a tender coconut shop next to Prashant's shop, and at the time of the latter's murder on October 9 early morning, Vaman was present at the spot. He was thus considered a key eyewitness in the case.Sources said that ever since Prashant's murder, Vaman appeared dull and did not mingle much with anyone. On Thursday, he went missing after 3.30 pm, and locals started to search for him. His worried family members suspected that he might been kidnapped and informed the police.Towards the evening, he was found hanging from a shed in the premises of his daughter's house near Swaraj Maidan in Moodbidri.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sunnyP » 19 Oct 2015 16:55

What is going on in Punjab?

We are reading about several cases of the Sikh religious text, the Guru Granth Sahib, being desecrated which then leads to protests which then leads to dead and injured protesters. And repeat.......

Badal is claiming this is a 'conspiracy' to disrupt the peace whilst many Sikh groups are going down the whole 'this is an Indian government/RSS conspiracy route' nonsense. This is very worrying as Punjab has been at peace for such a long time now.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby JE Menon » 19 Oct 2015 17:11

^^Congress dirtytrix for sure... The coincidence of all this is highly suspect (down to the "Hindu Sena" action with ink). They are angling for anything to bring the sense of hope and optimism down, and some idiots are supporting this... The goal is to create enough tension to stall economic development and growth, and cause general public to press the factory reset button - guess were that will take us.

But they are making a huge mistake, this is not the 1980s or 1990s.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby uddu » 19 Oct 2015 17:31

Not so easy to say that this is not the 1990s. The congress is out just for a year and the success of Pseudos from Delhi election after repeated Church attack remarks indicate that this is the last option left for the Pseudo secular parties to gain power. It may take another 10 years or so to ensure that Pseudos are made irrelevant from every part of India by the people themselves. Its a slow and steady process.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby nirav » 19 Oct 2015 18:18

uddu wrote:Not so easy to say that this is not the 1990s. The congress is out just for a year and the success of Pseudos from Delhi election after repeated Church attack remarks indicate that this is the last option left for the Pseudo secular parties to gain power. It may take another 10 years or so to ensure that Pseudos are made irrelevant from every part of India by the people themselves. Its a slow and steady process.


I thin its only possible with an actual congress mukt bharat and a longer time frame.

The pseudoism runs deep .. like generational deep.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sunnyP » 20 Oct 2015 20:33

They are playing right into the hands of the Pakis - this was reported last month:

Indian intelligence agencies have come across a new design of Pakistan's ISI to destabilize India with the help of Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) in which Hafiz Saeed is also playing a crucial role. And the target of this new game that is about to be played out is Punjab.

According to latest intelligence inputs a group of 15-20 terrorists trained by LeT in commando warfare and especially coached into Sikh traditions, including Gurmukhi script by Pak-based Khalistani operative Ranjit Singh Neeta, are awaiting at the launching pads in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (POK) to infiltrate into Punjab.

Hafiz Saeed, sources said, has been roped in as the key motivator for the new design that is looking to open new fronts after failing to spread terrorism in J&K and crumbling of the Indian Mujahideen (IM).

"ISI's aim is to use LeT cadres to revive the Sikh militancy and use it as a catalyst to lure unemployed Sikh youths in Punjab to join terror groups with the help of other radical Sikh groups," said sources.


http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-pa ... nt-2129673

JE Menon wrote:^^Congress dirtytrix for sure... The coincidence of all this is highly suspect (down to the "Hindu Sena" action with ink). They are angling for anything to bring the sense of hope and optimism down, and some idiots are supporting this... The goal is to create enough tension to stall economic development and growth, and cause general public to press the factory reset button - guess were that will take us.

But they are making a huge mistake, this is not the 1980s or 1990s.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Melwyn » 20 Oct 2015 22:03

So the Punjab Police has cracked the case of Punjab violence.
And root has been traced to Australia which was guiding the violence in Punjab.
For a few $$ these people can sell their own country.

Faridkot sacrilege case: Police arrest two brothers

CHANDIGARH: Punjab police have arrested the main culprits in connection with the first sacrilege case in Faridkot. The two arrested are brothers — Jaswinder Singh and Rupinder Singh. Police claimed the two brothers committed the offence in connection with "someone in Australia".

Police are relying on a 40-minute audio clip of a conversation between the two brothers to nail them.

A Special Investigation Team (SIT) under ADGP IPS Sahota consitituted after the sacrilege incident in Bargari village gurudwara in Faridkot and later at six other places in the state, concluded that "the accused became soft targets of anti-national forces due to greed and ambition of becoming rich".

"Police took them into custody after intercepting their mobile calls between October 14 to 16," he said.

He also read out the transcripts of the calls between the two brothers before media here.

"The brothers were in touch with someone in Australia," he said, adding, "police was trying to trace the person abroad."

Trouble over sacrilege incidents in the state began last Monday when torn pages of the holy book were found in Faridkot's Bargari village.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Prem » 20 Oct 2015 22:26

AAP is Burning Punjab.As per one Twitterati

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby rgosain » 20 Oct 2015 22:34

There is no point in interrogation or habeas corpus. These guys should be handed over to the local sikh community for a spot of summary justice. The entire incident seemed so contrived from the start that it had to be tspians. Why don't they just stick to throwing cows' heads into temples.
This MO is redolent of the Ford Foundation's activity in the Latin America, Guyans, and Fiji back in the 60's and 70's.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby RoyG » 20 Oct 2015 22:49

JE Menon wrote:^^Congress dirtytrix for sure... The coincidence of all this is highly suspect (down to the "Hindu Sena" action with ink). They are angling for anything to bring the sense of hope and optimism down, and some idiots are supporting this... The goal is to create enough tension to stall economic development and growth, and cause general public to press the factory reset button - guess were that will take us.

But they are making a huge mistake, this is not the 1980s or 1990s.


Overall, things are progressing nicely. I don't see any real opposition to BJP for the next 5-10 years.

I think one major advantage that has gotten us out of some really dark periods is our endless supply of paramilitary troops.

Even with a total sh*t GoI, intellectuals, media, etc. it is now virtually impossible to break away from the union or create too much trouble.

They'll simply swamp them with troops and wall off the infection until another party has the balls to deal with it.

The only threat that I see is this conversion business and these pan india type jihadi movements/**shia extremism.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

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Postby A_Gupta » 21 Oct 2015 18:51

"Holy book desecration: Punjab simmers, police says conspiracy hatched in Australia, Dubai
Announcing the arrest of the two brothers, a day after five other arrests, the police said they had solved five of seven incidents of desecration, and alleged a conspiracy hatched in Australia and Dubai."
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... t-on-fire/

Sikh protestors, responding to cues from two little-known preachers and a clutch of radical Sikh groups, continue to keep the state on edge with road blockades lasting several hours daily in several parts of Punjab.


Who are these preachers and these groups, and can the connections be traced in the public domain?

The government’s deployment of BSF personnel in the districts of Jalandhar, where Sikh protestors clashed with mostly Hindu shopkeepers on Monday,.....


Worrisome.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby SaiK » 21 Oct 2015 21:05

bring it back on the table.. may be a new thread?

http://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/standp ... am-1982959
we need to press this harder and see who all got the thorium illegally from India.

this might be mother of all what sonia-maun had done to destroy India.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby munna » 21 Oct 2015 22:39

Who are these preachers and these groups, and can the connections be traced in the public domain?




Ranjit Singh Khalsa Dhadrianwala, one of them! Sponsored video doing rounds.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby svenkat » 21 Oct 2015 23:02

munnaji,
whats the preacher saying?He repeats agencies again and again.Is he suggesting that Central agencies are to blame?

This is an "Idea of India" test case.According to Congress,only they can hold India together.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby svenkat » 21 Oct 2015 23:17

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/parkash-badal-govt-behind-punjab-violence-congress/
As protests continued in Punjab over the reported desecration of the Guru Granth Sahib, the Congress on Monday alleged that the Akali Dal-led state government was behind the incident and “agencies of the state” were involved. The party demanded a judicial inquiry into the incident and imposition of President’s Rule in the state. The Congress claimed the desecration of the holy book was the handiwork of the Akali Dal, which wanted to “divert attention” from the agitation by cotton farmers over crop loss. Punjab PCC president Partap Singh Bajwa said the cotton crop had failed due to spurious pesticides. He said the Congress has been demanding a CBI probe into the purchase of these pesticides.


Our charge is that this act has been done at the instance of the state government. The state government and the agencies of the state are involved. It is a very serious charge,” said Bajwa, demanding a “time bound” probe by a sitting judge of the Supreme Court to “identify and bring to book the culprits.” Sikh outfits have demanded the arrest of police officials involved in the firing at Behbal Kalan village in which two persons were killed. Bajwa said the Faridkot DCP told him that he had not given any written order for firing. “An open FIR has been lodged, the police officers who are involved have not been identified,” said Bajwa. “There is complete chaos. The President of India and the Government of India must intervene. Punjab is a border state, a most sensitive state. The Central government should intervene and President’s Rule should be imposed,” he said. He said Badal and his son and Deputy Chief Minister Sukhbir Badal should resign immediately. “The district where this incident has happened is their home district and they have failed,” he said.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby A_Gupta » 22 Oct 2015 01:18

Foreign hand redux: Why Punjab’s desecration incidents are scary
http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.co ... are-scary/
Shuma Raha writes:
The Gurdaspur terror strike, followed by the incidents of desecration. augur an evil wind. The desecration of Guru Granth Sahib has the same emotional import as the desecration of the Golden Temple — and the former could have as devastating consequences as the latter had in 1984.

The forces that are at work must be neutralised at once. And the Centre and the state need to work together to make sure that no power, foreign or otherwise, is allowed to incite discontent and unrest and wreck Punjab once again.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sanjaykumar » 22 Oct 2015 01:40

Wait for some upcoming strikes in Lahore. They promise to be truly spectacular.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby krithivas » 22 Oct 2015 03:13

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chandigarh/2-Sikh-brothers-held-for-Faridkot-sacrilege/articleshow/49476767.cms
Punjab police have arrested two baptised Sikh brothers for the alleged desecration of the Guru Granth Sahib at Faridkot's Bargari village and are believed to have committed the crime at the behest of a "foreign hand".

This is Evangelical Christian Church conspired violence.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby chetak » 22 Oct 2015 03:29

Thought Shots ‏@ShootinThoughts 14h14 hours ago
We were warned that converts are masquerading as Sikhs. Desecration of Guru Granth Sahib attributed to such converts

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Re: Internal Security Watch

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krithivas wrote:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chandigarh/2-Sikh-brothers-held-for-Faridkot-sacrilege/articleshow/49476767.cms
Punjab police have arrested two baptised Sikh brothers for the alleged desecration of the Guru Granth Sahib at Faridkot's Bargari village and are believed to have committed the crime at the behest of a "foreign hand".

This is Evangelical Christian Church conspired violence.


This is what focused (apolitical) law enforcement can do. They took the wind out of the sails of any "Yeevil Modi" bhajan singers. Now the first line of suspicion in any such repeat attack would be not "Yeevil Modi and Yeevil Yindoos", but would be "this could be a false flag".

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby ManSingh » 22 Oct 2015 07:17

krithivas wrote:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chandigarh/2-Sikh-brothers-held-for-Faridkot-sacrilege/articleshow/49476767.cms
Punjab police have arrested two baptised Sikh brothers for the alleged desecration of the Guru Granth Sahib at Faridkot's Bargari village and are believed to have committed the crime at the behest of a "foreign hand".

This is Evangelical Christian Church conspired violence.


I think, here baptised means baptised as per Sikh customs, what we call amritdhari in punjabi.

From the below link:
http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/punjab/arrested-youths-innocent-say-villagers/149060.html

Local SAD leader and block samiti member Gurmeet Singh, Nambardar Atma Singh, panch Dilbagh Singh, many former sarpanches and panches and residents of Panjgrain Khurd village gathered on the premises of the local gurdwara and discussed the arrest of the brothers, who have been baptised Sikhs for the past many years.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Prem » 22 Oct 2015 08:00

Amritdhari Sikh will rather die than do this act. Let's wait and watch.It will to low blow if Amritdharis did this.

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Postby A_Gupta » 22 Oct 2015 15:37

C Christine Fair has a paper from 2005
https://www.academia.edu/16995499/DIASP ... _MOVEMENTS
" DIASPORA INVOLVEMENT IN INSURGENCIES: INSIGHTS FROM THE KHALISTAN AND TAMIL EELAM MOVEMENTS"

This article exposits and contrasts the roles of two diasporas in ethnic conflict waged in their homelands, namely the Sikh diaspora’s involvement in the Punjab insurgency in north India and the Sri Lankan Tamil diaspora’s role in Sri Lanka’s Tamil insurgency. It draws out the various similarities and distinctions between the two in their use of technology, means of mobilization and identity production, and the geographical and political reach of their institutional ar- rangements. The article argues that the varying means by which these diasporas came into being affected the ways in which they mobilized and the positions they espoused towards homeland politics. It finds that the abilities of the two diasporas to contribute to events “back home” differed in part because of the scope of their respective institutional arrangements.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby A_Gupta » 22 Oct 2015 17:33

An analysis of the situation in Punjab:
http://www.newslaundry.com/2015/10/22/t ... nth-sahib/

IMO, if this analysis is correct, then the need to separate political power from religious authority is amply illustrated.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby ramana » 22 Oct 2015 20:27

Arun A diaspora by itself cant do much but if its is backed by state power it can be used against the target country.

Khalistan had multiple fathers: TSP, Canada and US.

Sri Lankan had initially Indian and then got adopted by various other state intelligence agencies.


BTW, In mid 1950s to early 1960s the US experts always wrote of centrifugal tendencies in Indian polity that will hive off Punjab and Tamilnadu from India with hope that TN would form a country with adjacent AP, Karnataka, and Kerala.


Unfair's article is a scholarly attempt to conceal US role in both insurgencies!!!!


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