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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Haridas » 06 Jan 2019 16:26

kit wrote:
Sachin wrote:The sad fact is that through online portals etc. procuring VHF wireless sets are no more a big deal :(. Don't know if the monitoring stations can do radio triangulation and find these sets. It is tougher if these stations are mobile, and change positions.

This was one of the reasons the Army intelligence who has more expertise in this was doing internal monitoring of transmissions ..hopefully, this has been taken over by one of the new acronyms agencies .... and of course being a "democracy " was branded by some politicians as "unauthorised" spying


What frequency was the broadcast heard? that will give clue.

Upper HF and VHF have unpredictable very long range depending on ionospheric tunneling / inversion. So one could hear pashto broadcast from 100 -500 watt transmitter of the pure creeps in Peshawar.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Sachin » 06 Jan 2019 18:54

kit wrote:This was one of the reasons the Army intelligence who has more expertise in this was doing internal monitoring of transmissions .

I am not challenging IA's capabilities in monitoring radio communications. But WPC (Wireless Planning & Coordination) cell has monitoring stations available at all stations only for this purpose. The generally have the expertise and relevant equipment to do a quick "band scanning"; i.e monitoring a large radio spectrum to check for traffic and then focus on the "interesting" ones.

Haridas wrote:What frequency was the broadcast heard? that will give clue. Upper HF and VHF have unpredictable very long range depending on ionospheric tunneling / inversion.

The news report quoting the Amateur Radio operations mentioned the communication to be on VHF. HAM radio frequency on VHF is 144Mhz-146Mhz. And yes, during extreme winters range of VHF increases dramatically (have copied stations operating nearly 400km away).

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby chetak » 07 Jan 2019 16:23

As UN Slams India For Deporting Five, Saudi Arabia To Send Back Hundreds Of Rohingyas To Bangladesh

On Sunday (6 January), Saudi Arabia is all prepared to send Rohingya immigrants out of their territory. Rohingyas, who have spent about five to six years in Saudi detention, were being lined up for deportations at the Shumaisi detention centre in Jeddah, India Today has reported.

According to the report, in a video footage received by a London-based news outlet, a detainee could be heard saying that he has been in Saudi Arabia for the past six years and is now being sent to Bangladesh, where he, like other Rohingyas, will become refugee.

"I've been here for the last five to six years, now they are sending me to Bangladesh. Please pray for me," he said.

After reported attempt to resist their deportation to Bangladesh, some of them were also put in handcuffs, according to voice notes sent to the outlet.

"They came to our cells in the middle of the night, telling us to pack our bags, and get ready for Bangladesh. They put handcuffs on me and now making us wait." said another voice note.

As per the report, many Rohingya locked up in the Shumaisi detention centre reportedly went to Saudi Arabia on Bangladeshi passports that were obtained using fake documents. Some of them reportedly also used passports from India, Nepal, Pakistan and Nepal to enter Saudi Arabia.

India, on 3 January, deported a family of five Rohingyas who were lodged at an Assam prison. One more Rohingya migrant, from Rakhine state of Myanmar, kept at Ambala jail in Haryana was also sent back on 2 January.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby disha » 08 Jan 2019 02:07

What is going on in NE? There is NE Bandh and it is played up big time.

Any insights?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby nandakumar » 08 Jan 2019 10:39

The citizenship amendment Bill which was passed by the look Sabha recently is the reason. The bill essentially confers citizenship to Bangladeshi and Pakistani citizens facing persecutions. The AGP is opposed to it.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Supratik » 08 Jan 2019 22:12

Citizenship amendment bill has been passed in LS. Not clear whether it will pass in RS.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/c ... 2019-01-08

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby disha » 10 Jan 2019 01:47

Supratik wrote:Citizenship amendment bill has been passed in LS. Not clear whether it will pass in RS.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/c ... 2019-01-08


I think the citizenship-amendment-bill is a very good thing. The protests from certain districts of Assam which might go through population inversion are expected.

RS may see an opposition walkout prior to the bill being passed.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Neshant » 13 Jan 2019 00:40

disha wrote:
Supratik wrote:Citizenship amendment bill has been passed in LS. Not clear whether it will pass in RS.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/c ... 2019-01-08


I think the citizenship-amendment-bill is a very good thing. The protests from certain districts of Assam which might go through population inversion are expected.

RS may see an opposition walkout prior to the bill being passed.


There is no way to tell a person's religion if he is trying to immigrate illegally.

He can claim one thing and once in, can revert back.

Also it promotes the exodus and/or dumping of surplus population from neighboring states on Bharath.

Finally, it will promote a flood of economic migrants.

Not a good bill.

Rather, there should be diplomatic and economic pressure applied on these countries to reform their societies and laws to accommodate these people.

At best, the acceptance should be selectively screened.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby VKumar » 13 Jan 2019 01:01

Neshant wrote:
disha wrote:
I think the citizenship-amendment-bill is a very good thing. The protests from certain districts of Assam which might go through population inversion are expected.

RS may see an opposition walkout prior to the bill being passed.


There is no way to tell a person's religion if he is trying to immigrate illegally.

He can claim one thing and once in, can revert back.

Also it promotes the exodus and/or dumping of surplus population from neighboring states on Bharath.

Finally, it will promote a flood of economic migrants.

Not a good bill.

Rather, there should be diplomatic and economic pressure applied on these countries to reform their societies and laws to accommodate these people.

At best, the acceptance should be selectively screened.



I think there is a simple physical test to determine any man's religion, between peaceful and any other.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby ramana » 13 Jan 2019 09:59

Supratik wrote:Reinstated CBI director sacked.

https://www.news18.com/news/india/cbi-d ... 98489.html


No. He was transferred. There is a difference.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Rahul M » 13 Jan 2019 10:33

in this case DDM is correct. this is not a routine transfer, he was first sacked as Director CBI by the high power committee; this committee does not have the power to transfer anyone.

the transfer was a separate executive decision of the govt.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby disha » 13 Jan 2019 12:31

^sacked from current post and transferred to new post. :-)

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby kit » 13 Jan 2019 13:48

https://www.nationalheraldindia.com/international/cybersecurity-experts-lament-chinese-companies-growing-toehold-in-india

As much as “35 per cent” of total cyber attacks from PLA are directed at Indian servers. While India has no cyber force, PLA’s “cyberwar room” has 35,000 govt hackers and 1.5 lakh private ones

It has been reliably learnt that a majority of Chinese hackers have been targeting Indian websites for mainly “political and diplomatic motives.”

Dr Paval Duggal, a Supreme Court lawyer specialising in cybersecurity, says that Chinese tech companies’ growing involvement in the Indian market could have “damaging political implications” as India approaches the 2019 elections.

The veteran SC lawyer says that UC Browser, developed by China’s UCWeb, had been accused of “trying to sway the political outcomes” in the recently concluded Telangana state elections.

ven the Prime Minister’s Office (PMO) has been compromised by Chinese malware. Says Duggal, “A couple of years back, at least 600 cyber attacks took place, all directed at the PMO. All of them were found to have come from China.”

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby chetak » 13 Jan 2019 14:03

Rahul M wrote:in this case DDM is correct. this is not a routine transfer, he was first sacked as Director CBI by the high power committee; this committee does not have the power to transfer anyone.

the transfer was a separate executive decision of the govt.


the DDM is playing it up as usual.

He was transferred and that is exactly why his "explanation" or the chance to justify/explain/defend himself was not accorded to him.

There is no rule in any civil service manual/procedure to seek a govt servant's justification/explanation/defence when he is served a transfer order.

the DDM/politicos/lootyens pasand presstitutes are pushing a lie. The sole dissenter in the group which transferred him was allegedly given only a few hours notice to attend the meeting per reports from the gulf where the "head" of a major party, while on foreign soil, castigated the PM as well as the govt of India.

And, in the few hours given him, the dissenter allegedly came up with a legally drafted, six page dissent "note". Amazing, to say the least.

Such expedient explanations simply will not wash.

BTW, the group which transferred him may not have had the power to sack him and the only option with them was transfer to him to an equivalent post with his perks and privileges intact.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Rahul M » 13 Jan 2019 18:13

chetak ji, please do not go all taliban on me.
alok verma was sacked as director CBI, DDM is correct on that. it was the 3-member committee that did it and it is entirely within its powers to do that, with or without any chance to anyone to represent themself. media spin notwithstanding .

The 3 member committee giveth and the 3 member committee taketh away, blessed be the name of the 3 member committee. ;)

however, what it can't do is transfer him to fire services or any other post. it's terms of reference start and end with the director of the CBI.
Do you understand what you are saying ? if this committe has the power of general transfers, the CJI & LoP can wreck havoc by simply randomly transferring officers from one dept. to another completel bypassing the govt. of the day.
thankfully, the committee does not have such powers.

what must have happened is that the govt. must have displayed good footwork and timed the transfer to coincide (or a bit later) with the order for removal of Alok verma from the post. instead of keeping him in suspended animation. the timing must have confused a few into thinking he was simply transferred from one post to another. why was he reinstated by the CJI led supreme court in the first place only to be removed by the same person (or his representative, makes no difference) a couple of days later ?
it's because the govt.'s order of removal of verma as CBI director was against the letter of the law although it was in the correct spirit of not allowing a public servant with prima facie proof of corruption to continue in a position of power. because the govt simply did not have that power. only the 3 member committe did.
so what the SC did is correct that bit of technicality by reinstating him, so that this doesn't create a bad precedence for the future (SC rulings having the force of law) and then help remove him a couple of days later in the 'proper way'.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby chetak » 13 Jan 2019 21:46

@Rahul M ji,

Effectively, he was sacked, that I agree.

I read a detailed explanation yesterday which I failed to copy or bookmark it and I can't seem to find it now and that actually formed the gist of my post above.

I almost always try and provide a link (or quote in full) relevant to what I have posted. Looks like I slipped up.

I will post that link if I find it.

When I watch the news or read the papers/net, the recurring phrase is always "the new broom" which should have been used at the very outset in 2014 to sweep clean.

How is it possible that these guys are still being blindsided in 2018/19??

That crook Moin Qureshi has brought down three CBI directors all on his own. Its got to be a record. Are they all sleeping in dilli??

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Neshant » 13 Jan 2019 23:01

chetak wrote:
He was transferred and that is exactly why his "explanation" or the chance to justify/explain/defend himself was not accorded to him.


Whenever there is a transfer, there has been a corruption of the law.

Whenever you hear someone has been transferred, it means there is an attempt underway to subvert justice.

That is the purpose of transfers.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby kit » 14 Jan 2019 00:13

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/science-nomad/what-if-rahul-gandhi-is-for-china-that-trump-was-for-russia/

As we head for a very important election in 2019, I am forced to learn from USA and invite you to think about who could be interested in us and what would serve its agenda.

There is absolutely no doubt that China is interested in the outcome Indian elections.

A strong India isn’t exactly a Chinese dream. They will want India to be unstable and confused. They will want Indian growth to slow down, especially in industrial sector, and they will surely love to see Indian military power to become weak.

It is easy to see that a weak government at helm in India would serve Chinese agenda wonderfully well, so it would be stupid of us if we are not going to consider a possibility that somewhere in China there is a large establishment working right now with a clear agenda of using whatever options they have to influence Indian elections.

There is no doubt that China must have done so in every election in past, but the case of 2019 election is a clearly different.

The problem today is that China is a superpower, a technology powerhouse and, lot worse, it is almost a rogue state that is immune to international opinions and pressures. There is also enough evidence that it uses unethical hacking as a state-supported weapon and it is really good at it too.

Lot worse is, Chinese IT products, especially smartphones have penetrated not just Indian market but the entire world. Time and again, it is caught with having inserted a chip here and an IC there in computers and phones it has supplied to the world that it can use for snooping.

As China-built smartphone is the primary route used by Indian masses to access social media, it is very likely that China is already holding us by the short hairs.

So, if Russia could tweak the opinion of American public by using social media, it should be a cakewalk for Chinese to do that to India.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby VKumar » 14 Jan 2019 00:47

Russia and USA also very interested in the elections.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sanjaykumar » 14 Jan 2019 07:00

I have no doubt reft, the Chinese are interested in India's giant erection.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Rahul M » 14 Jan 2019 08:47

chetak ji, there's a saying in bengali, "thog bachhte gan ujar" meaning 'to weed out the crooks entire village is depopulated'. decades of systematic selection of a certain kind of people.


Neshant wrote:
chetak wrote:
He was transferred and that is exactly why his "explanation" or the chance to justify/explain/defend himself was not accorded to him.


Whenever there is a transfer, there has been a corruption of the law.

Whenever you hear someone has been transferred, it means there is an attempt underway to subvert justice.

That is the purpose of transfers.

:roll:
spoken like someone who understands neither transfers nor corruption.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby chetak » 14 Jan 2019 09:38

sanjaykumar wrote:I have no doubt reft, the Chinese are interested in India's giant erection.


Modi's India first policy has upset a lot of countries who were used to bribing their through our eagerly conniving political system.

All these countries, needless to say, openly and aggressively follow their "own country first" policy without any conscience or moral consideration but with solely crass commercial deliberation, and often embed sly strategic objectives.

Their often state sponsored NGOs run riot here even while they wilfully (and wisely)prevent such NGOs from wreaking havoc in their own countries. They pay off filthy NGOs like amnesty and greenpeace to agitate in India and pretend as though local aam jantha is unhappy with the Modi govt policies. They interfere by providing "guidance" in "drafting" slanted and dubious legislation to our illiterate and corrupt politicos to push through the system to the detriment of the country and its people.

At long last, someone is questioning the intentions of such off shore entities and their anti India policies and these guys don't like it.

Sterlite in one very recent example where they had maliciously shut down 40% of India's copper production facilities.

Modi's India asking serious questions about the balance of payment issues, reciprocal arrangements to be enforced for fair trade practices, transfer of technology requirements, restricting proselytization and so seeking our rightful place in the sun has become an anathema to these guys.

From licking their boots to now grabbing them by the throat is a big change, and a very unwelcome change and these guys resent their impotence.
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Re: Internal Security Watch

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sanjaykumar » 14 Jan 2019 10:09

sanjaykumar wrote:These changes will not dissipate with a change in government. Modi did not create but anticipated the nationalism that comes from a developing economy, nuclear weapons, technology development and a massive population that is demonstrating that it can create value in all spheres of national life.

I am really not a nationalism type of personality but I do understand what drives India to win in Australia and aim to put three Indians in orbit. Those of us used to seeing India derided at all levels can be forgiven a little glee. It’s only going to get better.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

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Re: Internal Security Watch

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Neshant » 16 Jan 2019 08:31

Kochi the new hotspot for illegal Rohingya & Bangladeshis.


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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Supratik » 17 Jan 2019 20:13

Some Rohingyas moving from India to Bdesh for fear of deportation to Myanmar.

https://in.news.yahoo.com/rohingya-exod ... 11442.html

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby kit » 18 Jan 2019 02:05

sanjaykumar wrote:I have no doubt reft, the Chinese are interested in India's giant erection.


sorry ..coudnt resist :rotfl: :mrgreen:


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