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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Raveen » 13 Sep 2019 20:45

ramana wrote:
mmasand wrote:Terror plot foiled, truck laden with arms seized in J-K’s Kathua

It is believed that these suspected militants infiltrated from across the International Border via Bamyal border in Pathankot with the help of over-ground workers in Kashmir Valley.

The Jammu and Kashmir Police on Thursday foiled a major terror plot with the seizure in Lakhanpur area of Kathua district of a consignment of arms and ammunition from a Kashmir-bound truck. This is the first such recovery since Article 370, granting special status to J&K, was scrapped.

A truck on its way to Kashmir from Punjab was checked and we found some arms and ammunition, including AK series rifles. We are still in the middle of preparing an inventory of the seizure,” said Shridhar Patil, Kathua SSP.

Patil added that three people, including the truck driver, who belong to Pulwama and Budgam districts in Kashmir, were arrested. Details will be shared once initial investigation is done, he said.

A truck was intercepted at 8.00 am on the Jammu-Pathankot Highway and during checking six AK-47 rifles were seized, Inspector General of Police, Jammu, Makesh Singh told PTI.

It is believed that these suspected militants infiltrated from across the International Border via Bamyal border in Pathankot with the help of over-ground workers in Kashmir Valley, sources said.

The Bamyal sector in Pathankot district is a favourite infiltration route of Pakistani terrorists, one that the intruders who attacked the Dinanagar police station in Gurdaspur district last July, and those who killed two policemen in the Narot Jaimal Singh area a few years ago had taken.


Question is where did the six AK-47s come from?
Across the border?
And these guys met up with the Kashmir truck driver?

Something is rotten in Punjab.


Punjab is rotten, they, the Porkis have destroyed a whole generation of punjabi youth...irrepairable harm done through drugs and now the remainder are being destroyed through the Khalistani movement, watch the number of ethinic punjabis dwindle and militancy rise.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Sachin » 19 Sep 2019 21:15

Hard disk theft from aircraft carrier: police interrogate Shipyard staff.
Seems to be an insider job and there is also confusion on whether the theft happened from the ship or from the ship yard. The ship is still not with the navy and the computer fitted in the under construction ship may not have any critical data of the Navy. But if these hard disks were used by the ship yard engineers to work on some financial or technical information of the ship, it may lead to some serious security breaches.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Paul » 20 Sep 2019 10:53

ꯃꯥꯀꯨ
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There will be a rise of a separatist movement in West Bengal from 2025-2030 onwards. Mark my words.

Expect LTTE 2.0, but probably worse.


How realistic is this?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby vimal » 20 Sep 2019 11:14

Look at the surnames of most virulently anti-India people in any university and that question should be answered automatically.

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Postby Paul » 20 Sep 2019 12:27

It will be fueled by the economic rise of Bangladesh according to him.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Supratik » 20 Sep 2019 18:30

It is all Marxist bhadralok talk. They have been threatening this for long (part of their many wet dreams). But given that their support base now is only 7% that responsibility of an imminent Bengali rising has now been transferred to TMC. But yes with the rise of Bdesh economy there will be people migrating there (already happening) which is actually a good thing for India.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Manish_P » 20 Sep 2019 20:04

You too?

I got this exact same tweet in my timeline after i made a comment on bangladesh in the J&K/Terroristan thread.

Do twitter bots check our activity on the forums?

The word i had used was 'Greater Bangladesh'.. a word i had not come across earlier.. but is a word (with a map) in one of this handles tweet

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ꯃꯥꯀꯨ
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There will be a rise of a separatist movement in West Bengal from 2025-2030 onwards. Mark my words.

Expect LTTE 2.0, but probably worse.


How realistic is this?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Vips » 20 Sep 2019 23:26

India planning to set up one of the world's largest facial recognition systems.

India is planning to set up one of the world's largest facial recognition systems, potentially a lucrative opportunity for surveillance companies and a nightmare for privacy advocates who fear it will lead to a Chinese-style Orwellian state.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi's government will open bids next month to build a system to centralize facial recognition data captured through surveillance cameras across India. It would link up with databases containing records for everything from passports to fingerprints to help India's depleted police force identify criminals, missing persons and dead bodies.

The government says the move is designed to help one of the world's most understaffed police forces, which has one officer for every 724 citizens - well below global norms. It also could be a boon for companies: TechSci Research estimates India's facial recognition market will grow sixfold by 2024 to $4.3 billion, nearly on par with China.

But the project is also ringing alarm bells in a nation with no data privacy laws and a government that just shut down the internet for the last seven weeks in the key state of Kashmir to prevent unrest. While India is still far from implementing a system that matches China's ability to use technology to control the population, the lack of proper safeguards opens the door for abuses.

"We're the only functional democracy which will set up such as system without any data protection or privacy laws," said Apar Gupta, a Delhi-based lawyer and executive director of the Internet Freedom Foundation, a non-profit group whose members successfully lobbied the government in 2015 to ensure net neutrality and reject platforms like Facebook Inc.'s Free Basics. "It's like a gold rush for companies seeking large unprotected databases."

Black Market
A draft data protection bill presented to the government last year still hasn't been approved by the cabinet or introduced into parliament. The country has already had problems implementing Aadhaar, one of the world's biggest biometric databases linking everything from bank accounts to income tax filings, which been plagued by reports of data leaks and the growth of a black market for personal information.

So far, not much is known about which companies might bid on the facial-recognition system. Minutes of a meeting with potential bidders, obtained by the Internet Freedom Foundation through a right to information request, showed unidentified companies sought clarifications on integrating facial recognition data with state databases and whether it should be able to identify people with plastic surgery.

Vasudha Gupta, a spokeswoman for the Home Ministry, didn't respond to an email seeking comments about the system.

For some in the police force, the system will be an essential tool to fight crime if implemented properly. India has seen more than 100 terrorist attacks in the last three decades, including one on luxury hotels and a train station in Mumbai that killed 166 people in 2008.

'Powerful Tool'
Nilabh Kishore, who headed a unit fighting organized crime in the state of Punjab until last year, had success against gangsters after he set up a system linking data from police stations across the state.

"A system that can identify criminals is invaluable - facial recognition is a powerful tool," said Kishore, who is now deputy inspector general of the Indo-Tibetan Border Police. "But human intentions are also very important. You can make the best of technology, but if human intentions are wrong it can be a tool for misuse."

That's particularly a worry for vulnerable minority groups that have long faced discrimination in India. Lower castes and tribals account for about a quarter of the population but constitute 34% of India's prisoners, according to the National Dalit Movement for Justice.

In January, the Delhi High Court said it was "unacceptable" that facial recognition had not helped trace any of the 5,000 children missing from the city in three years. Earlier this month, photos and phone numbers from a Madurai city police facial recognition database in the southern state of Tamil Nadu were leaked online.

Surveillance Threat
The threat of foreign spying is also persistent. Last month a federal government think tank criticized the local administration in Delhi for hiring the Indian arm of Chinese firm Hikvision to set up 150,000 CCTVs, saying the move could spur illegal hacking and data leaks to the Chinese government.

Foreign surveillance companies operating in India include CP Plus, Dahua, Panasonic Corp., Bosch Security Systems, Honeywell International Inc., and D-Link India Ltd. Many Indian companies won't be able to bid on the facial-recognition system because the current tender requires them to meet standards established by the U.S. National Institute of Science and Technology, according to Atul Rai, chief executive officer of Staqu Technologies, an Indian startup.

Rai, whose company has developed facial recognition for eight local police forces, said India doesn't have the same quality cameras as China - making it harder to meet the goal of being able to identify any person with an integrated system. He also said it would be more difficult to implement a national network in India because state governments are responsible for law and order under its constitution.

"But if this one happens in line with the government's plan, it should be a China-like system," Rai said. "Any powerful country wants to be like China when it comes to using technology to monitor people - even western countries."

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Kati » 21 Sep 2019 14:59

If I want to get a new SIM card then I have to get a photo, fill out the form, bring Aadhar card or passport, etc etc...
then a verification within
seven days.... all the hassles for a typical innocent civilian.
But at Tripura Bangladesh border things are completely loosy-goosy....

Just step out of the Akhaura border, just outside of immigration check-point (on the Indian side), next to the foreign
currency exchange booth
any Bangladeshi can buy a pre-approved (or already authorized) SIM card....

HOW?

Isn't the local security authority aware of this? Unbelievable, it's happening right under their nose..

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby darshan » 22 Sep 2019 18:13

Al Qaeda terrorist and recruiter Kalimuddin found living in a Madrasa, arrested by Jharkhand ATS
https://www.opindia.com/2019/09/al-qaed ... khand-ats/

A most wanted terrorist of Al Qaeda was arrested by the Anti-Terrorist Squad of Jharkhand Police on Saturday. The terrorist Kalimuddin Mujahiri was wanted for a long time for his activities, and he was found living in Madrasa.

According to reports, Kalimuddin was arrested from Tatanagar Railway station in Jamshedpur. According to police, he was involved in motivating and recruiting youths from the Indian subcontinent for jihad.

His associates Md Abdul Rahamn Ali alias Haider alias Katki, Abdul Sami alias Ujjair alias Hasan were caught earlier and at present lodged in Tihar Jail, the ADG informed.

ML Meena said that Al Qaida recruiter Kalimuddin used to travel through Uttar Pradesh, Gujarat, West Bengal and other states to recruit youths for Islamic terrorism. He has also visited Bangladesh, South Africa, Saudi Arab and other countries.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby darshan » 22 Sep 2019 18:15

Delhi: 4 criminals fire at police near Akshardham Temple, escape
https://www.opindia.com/2019/09/delhi-4 ... -reported/
In a shocking incident, 4 unidentified assailants fired on the police indiscriminately near the Akshardham Temple in Delhi on Sunday morning.

According to reports, the assailants started firing at the police team when the police team has asked the suspicious assailants to stop their vehicle.

According to a Zee News report, the criminals apper to have escaped towards Geeta Colony and police have launched operations to nab them.

https://zeenews.india.com/four-criminal ... 36066.html

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby VikramA » 22 Sep 2019 20:42

cockroaches being stomped

ANI: Punjab Chief Minister's Office: In another major terror crackdown,Punjab Police has busted a terrorist module of the revived Khalistan Zindabad Force (KZF) backed by a Pakistan and Germany based terror group.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby chetak » 23 Sep 2019 15:16

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60k-gGQ2pC4


Ex RAW Officer NK Sood exposes Dawood's Links in Indian Politics






N K Sood has served 30+ Years in Research & Analysis Wing. He has served in countries like Iran, UK & many other. In an explosive interview given exclusively to Defensive Offence, he gets candid & talks about Dawood & his links in Indian Politics.
He can be reached on: https://twitter.com/rawnksood

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby chetak » 25 Sep 2019 09:26

Pak terror groups use Chinese drones to airdrop 80 kg weapons in Punjab for J&K



Pak terror groups use Chinese drones to airdrop 80 kg weapons in Punjab for J&K


Sep 25, 2019,
Shishir Gupta.


Five people have so far been arrested by Punjab Police in connection with the drone drops.

At least eight drone sorties, carrying a total of 80 kg of weapons (arms and ammunition), were sent across the border into Punjab by Pakistan-based Khalistani terror groups between September 9 and 16, officials in security agencies and the Punjab Police have confirmed on condition of anonymity.

The entire consignment, using the Khalistan Zindabad Force (KZF) network, was supported by Pakistan’s spy agency Inter Services Intelligence and orchestrated through Germany and Lahore; the ultimate aim — to fuel terror attacks in Jammu & Kashmir.

The details of these drops have emerged following investigations that led to and following the September 22 weapons seizure at Tarn Taran district; the eight payloads were dropped in Amritsar and Tarn Taran.

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Police recover a half-burnt drone that was used for smuggling weapons into Punjab from Pakistan.

Five people have so far been arrested by Punjab Police in connection with the drone drops, with one 22-year-old Subhdeep held on Tuesday. Investigators said he was from Amritsar district and was radicalised by the prime accused in the case, Mann Singh, and another accused, Akashdeep, in Amritsar jail. The other four people, suspected to belong to a terror module, were arrested from the outskirts of village Chohla Sahib in Tarn Taran on Sunday. They were using a white Maruti Swift with a Punjab registration number.

The investigation involved multiple agencies – the Punjab Police, central security agencies, the Border Security Force, the Indian Air Force – and prima facie found that multiple Chinese commercial drones with 10 kg payloads have been used in the weapons drop operations across the border. The drones, the investigation reveals, may have been launched from locations 2 km inside Pakistan and made to travel the distance of five kilometres at a height of 2,000 feet, and then dropped off the weapons after descending to 1200 ft. The payload was slung from the platform using Chinese mountaineering ropes.

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Chinese batteries recovered from the drone that crashed in Tarn Taran, Punjab.

With drone activity also being seen in Punjab’s Ferozepur district, the IAF and BSF have been asked by the Punjab police to intercept these unmanned aerial vehicles through low-level radars and destroy them. Officials fear that they could also be used to carry and drop off bombs.

The interrogation of those arrested has revealed that KZF’s Germany-based operative Gurmeet Singh Bagga in coordination with his Pakistan-based chief Ranjeet Singh aka Neeta have made deliveries of at least four weapons, grenades, electronics, and fake currency through drones. The deliveries were made on the intervening nights of September 6/7, 9/10 and the last one on 15/16. The last drone crashed at Rajoke Village, Khalra police station, in Tarn Taran, near a border drain which is 2km from the fencing on the international border with Pakistan. The entire operation came to light after the discovery of the burnt drone, whose eight Chinese batteries were stripped off by the accused on instructions from across the border. “ It has also been revealed that such deliveries took place on four different dates, mostly between 9.30 pm and 10.30 pm with the drone making two sorties within an hour,” said a senior Punjab Police official. As many as five AK-47 rifles, which weigh about four kilograms with magazine, four Chinese pistols , nine HE grenades, Rs 10 lakh fake currency, 1000 rounds of ammunition and two electronic receivers were recovered by the police from the accused.

The main concern of Indian security agencies is the revelation that entire consignment was meant for Islamist groups in Kashmir. “ We are not very clear as to how many other consignment has made their way into Kashmir using similar modus operandi and with the help of Pakistan based Sikh terrorists,” said a senior security official.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Manish_P » 25 Sep 2019 20:07

Not direct military as such but a direct threat to security

India's 'biggest' sex scandal: 4,000 smut files of VIPs tumble out in Madhya Pradesh honey trap probe

Nearly 4,000 files containing screenshots of sex chats videos of naked officers in compromising positions and audio clips have so far extracted from the laptops and mobile phones confiscated from the honeytrap ring hat allegedly hooked a large number of movers and shakers in the state.

From very senior bureaucrats to junior project engineers and top BJP and Congress leaders the list of men who fell for the honeytrap ring’s lures seems endless. A senior IPS officer, who was allegedly honeytrapped by the gang was summoned by the chief minister’s office on Tuesday


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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby siddhu » 26 Sep 2019 09:25

https://www.oneindia.com/india/bomb-materials-stored-by-jmb-terrorist-at-electronic-city-bengaluru-seized-by-nia-2953422.html

Deedi sponsored TeeMC workers campaning in Bangalore

He further said that he and his associates had test fired three rocket shells at Krishnagiri in Tamil Nadu. He said he and his associates, Habibur had prepared these rockets using a crude device. From here the NIA seized remnants of explosive materials such as 8 batteries of 1.5 volt each, a hollow cylindrical carton used for launching the rocket shell and pieces of electrical wire.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby ramana » 27 Sep 2019 03:27

There is a video on Titter of a J&K police checkpost recovering weapons and ammo from a motorcycle seat.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Vivasvat » 27 Sep 2019 05:49

ramana wrote:There is a video on Titter of a J&K police checkpost recovering weapons and ammo from a motorcycle seat.

Following three things indicate that the video might be from naPak:

1) the soft cover on the vehicle/truck behind the policeman
2) the light color of the uniform
3) short seam length of the policeman's trousers.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Paul » 27 Sep 2019 22:10

Agreed. Policeman's uniform is a giveaway. It is in Pakistan

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby darshan » 03 Oct 2019 01:19

56-Year-Old ISRO Scientist Murdered At His Own Flat In Hyderabad; Police Say Head Was Hit By Heavy Object
https://swarajyamag.com/insta/56-year-o ... avy-object

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby schinnas » 03 Oct 2019 15:33

Multiple unexplained deaths of nuclear scientists in India made news some time back. Police comveniently closed several of them as suicide as they couldnt solve the cases. Now a senior scientist of ISRO Remote Sending operations is murdered inside his home.

Hope Doval has this in his radar and doing the necessary.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Sachin » 05 Oct 2019 10:56

Looks like the NRSA scientist was a gay, and his s-exual relationship led to his murder.
Unnatural sex behind NRSA scientist murder: Hyd Police

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Karthik S » 10 Oct 2019 11:01

This thread has been dormant. Yesterday a bengali teacher family was slaughtered, the pics are all over twitter, another 10 year old girl was done by peacefuls in WB. Peacefuls pelted stones at durga puja procession in UP. Lovers cult stop durga puja procession in guntur, AP. A VHP guy was murdered in MP.
I thought of providing links but the list is long to paste link for every one of the incident.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby arvin » 11 Oct 2019 07:48

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/d ... 2019-10-10

Jhingada was reportedly taken to Karachi by Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and Dawood's henchmen. A Bangkok court had recently declared Jhingada, an Indian, to be a Pakistani citizen.


The guy was involved in the infamous shootout in 2000 in bangkok to kill chota rajan. Rajan and his men where in a diplomatic enclave, but dawoods men were able to locate him. Rajan survived and was brought back to india only after 2014.
However munna's release to pak speaks poorly of thai judicial system where inspite of us providing first grade evidence of munna being indian, and lower court ruling in our favour, the higher court ruled in their favour.

A background on the 2000 shootout
https://www.outlookindia.com/magazine/s ... men/210143

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby fanne » 11 Oct 2019 16:40

Sachin wrote:Looks like the NRSA scientist was a gay, and his s-exual relationship led to his murder.
Unnatural sex behind NRSA scientist murder: Hyd Police



Just a story to manage the assasination

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Sachin » 11 Oct 2019 16:43

fanne wrote:
Sachin wrote:Looks like the NRSA scientist was a gay, and his s-exual relationship led to his murder.
Just a story to manage the assasination

Story planted by whom? Why is even the state police officially taking the same stance? What benefit does the country, the organisation, or even the family of the dead person get by declaring the dead person was a gay?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby schinnas » 11 Oct 2019 17:24

arvin wrote:https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/dawood-aide-munna-jhingada-leaves-karachi-bangkok-1608048-2019-10-10

Jhingada was reportedly taken to Karachi by Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and Dawood's henchmen. A Bangkok court had recently declared Jhingada, an Indian, to be a Pakistani citizen.


The guy was involved in the infamous shootout in 2000 in bangkok to kill chota rajan. Rajan and his men where in a diplomatic enclave, but dawoods men were able to locate him. Rajan survived and was brought back to india only after 2014.
However munna's release to pak speaks poorly of thai judicial system where inspite of us providing first grade evidence of munna being indian, and lower court ruling in our favour, the higher court ruled in their favour.

A background on the 2000 shootout
https://www.outlookindia.com/magazine/s ... men/210143


It speaks poorly of RAW than Thai judicial system. Thai judicial system is corrupt. RAW failed to connect with the right powers to get him deported to India. ISI has a very good operation in Thailand which is a hub for their narcotics and other activities.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Vips » 11 Oct 2019 17:51

How Pak Sabotaged Thai System To Stop Dawood Aide’s Extradition To India.

Pakistan’s spy agency, Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), has done it yet again—playing the system in Thailand and using bribery to get a favourable court verdict. The person in the eye of the storm in this case is Syed Muzakir Muddassar Hussain, alias Munna Jhingra, a close aide of gangster Dawood Ibrahim and a suspect in the 1993 Mumbai blasts case.

A Thai court of appeal has recently overturned a lower court order that had okayed Jhingra’s extradition to India. Jhingra has seven cases against him in Mumbai, ranging from murder to possessing illegal weapons.

Intelligence sources have told SNI that the ISI colluded with D-Company and a bribe of nearly THB 100 million was paid to get Jingra declared a Pakistani national, which would prevent his extradition to India that would have helped prove Dawood’s presence in Pakistan, a fact Pakistan has long denied.

Mia Kasim, a Pak businessman dealing with import/export of carpets in Thailand, is said to have played a key role in the plot. He roped in a lawyer, Col. Sanhakit Bumrungsuksawad, who has served nearly 30 years in the Royal Thai Police, to leverage his contacts in the political and judicial set-ups., sources said, adding that Sanhakit and another lawyer Pawarit Phudpong finalised the monetary deals to influence the court verdict.

Muhammad Sohail Qasmani, a hawala agent linked to D-Company, apparently played an important role in transferring the funds. He was briefly detained at a Thai airport on September 8 while coming from Malaysia. Local security agencies had suspicion that he had come to transfer funds to ISI operatives at the Pakistani embassy in Bangkok.

According to Thai judicial rules, a court of appeal cannot decide on the basis of the evidence which had already been presented to a lower court and can rule only if there is new evidence. But in this case, the appeals court based its verdict on mere statements given by Pak embassy, not on documentary evidence which is part of the case, said sources.

In the year 2000, Jhingra was sentenced to life imprisonment in connection with an assassination bid on Chhota Rajan, an Indian underworld operative who was part of the D-Company but later fell out with Dawood, in Bangkok after entering Thailand on a fake Pakistani passport in the name of Mohd. Saleem.

Ever since his conviction, ISI used bribery and its contacts in the Thai Foreign Ministry in getting five royal pardons, thereby remitting his jail sentence from 35 years to 16 years. Jhingra was released from prison on December 27, 2016.

As an extradition request against Jhingra was already pending from India (India made a formal extradition request in March 2012), Thai authorities arrested him again. India submitted a dossier in the Thai court, including fingerprints in support of Jhingra’s Indian nationality. The detailed evidence submitted to court also included DNA samples, college-leaving certificate and copies of FIRs registered against him in Mumbai.

ISI arranged a fake Pakistani passport to counter India’s claim on Jhingra’s nationality. It’s also said to have warned the Thai foreign office that Jhingra’s extradition to India would lead to a major diplomatic row between Pakistan and Thailand.

However, based on evidence, the lower court affirmed that Jhingra is an Indian national and ordered his extradition to India. Rattled by the court order, Pakistan, sources said, even planned to get Jhingra killed in Thai jail but could not get it done. In August 2018, it appealed against the lower court order.

Pakistan’s dubious record of making false claims and fabricating documents has been demonstrated earlier as well, in the case of Ibrahim Koko, a Myanmarese national and drug peddler, who too is associated with D-Company. Koko was arrested on charges of running a drug syndicate in Thailand. The Pakistani embassy in Bangkok had sought his extradition on the grounds that he is a Pakistani national. However, subsequent to his extradition in 2015, a Pakistani court ruled that he was travelling on fake Pakistani documents and should be deported back to Thailand where he should complete his remaining jail term. Finding themselves in an embarrassing situation, Thai authorities have not yet accepted Ibrahim Koko’s return to Thailand.

But that didn’t stop Pakistan from trying the same trick in the case of Jhingra, who is an Indian national and a resident of Sayyed Muddsar Chawl near Toofani Kirana Stores, Prem Nagar, Jogeshwari (East), Mumbai-60.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sum » 11 Oct 2019 19:41

Sad reading given our much vaunted intel abilities atleast in our neighbourhood

Should count as a major egg in face of RAW given that we had so much info abt Paki moves

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby arvin » 12 Oct 2019 08:54

IMO it is not correct to blame any agency here as the lower court had ruled in our favour.
Pak might have used money + big brother influence to get appeal in their favour. Thais must pay for this by way of some tourism ban or something.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Dumal » 12 Oct 2019 09:38

arvin wrote:IMO it is not correct to blame any agency here as the lower court had ruled in our favour.
Pak might have used money + big brother influence to get appeal in their favour. Thais must pay for this by way of some tourism ban or something.


Yes, this event only goes to show how dangerous a compromised judiciary can be in our country or elsewhere. We cannot trust our own judiciary to be straight - recall the judge who overthrew Jayalalitha’s conviction on a whim and the one who is to have shielded PC for the past couple of years. We even have the SC that was at the beck and call of 5-star activists and their lawyers.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby kvraghav » 12 Oct 2019 11:19

Just review the FTA with the Thais and everything will fall in place.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby uskumar » 12 Oct 2019 11:59

kvraghav wrote:Just review the FTA with the Thais and everything will fall in place.

I never understood why we give away our market through FTA to countries with non-strategic relationships. To me Japan is a yes but south Korea is a no. With Singapore is a yes but ASEAN is a no.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby kvraghav » 12 Oct 2019 14:04

I always feel we are very generous with Thai and Vietnam whereas both will side with China.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby schinnas » 12 Oct 2019 23:49

kvraghav wrote:Just review the FTA with the Thais and everything will fall in place.


Why? We cannot attack friendly nation's for what is effectively a mishandling by RAW and our embassy there. Everyone knows Thai judiciary is corrupt and under Army influence. Recently a Thai judge tried to commit suicide in live court after giving a ruling.

If MEA and RAW just focussed on building a legal case and sat on their behinds, they don't sound competent atleast in this case. Accountability must be fixed. They cannot only take credit and divert blame elsewhere.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby schinnas » 12 Oct 2019 23:51

The only other possibility is that bhikaris got their Ilon brother to help them out. The influence lonnbrother has on SEA nations is much higher than ours, especially in Thailand where millions of Chinese tourists keep the economy going.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby kvraghav » 13 Oct 2019 02:04

schinnas wrote:
kvraghav wrote:Just review the FTA with the Thais and everything will fall in place.


Why? We cannot attack friendly nation's for what is effectively a mishandling by RAW and our embassy there. Everyone knows Thai judiciary is corrupt and under Army influence. Recently a Thai judge tried to commit suicide in live court after giving a ruling.

If MEA and RAW just focussed on building a legal case and sat on their behinds, they don't sound competent atleast in this case. Accountability must be fixed. They cannot only take credit and divert blame elsewhere.

I do not agree that this was all about money. Thai and Vietnam plays India very well. The exports growth of Vietnam is a proof of this. We should protect our market and use such situation. This is all China's doing and nothing else. No one is friendly and everyone of the asean countries will drop India and go with China on every opportunity.



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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Paul » 18 Oct 2019 15:57

Kamlesh Tiwari murdered in Lucknow. This with the murder of the BSF Jawan and the killing of VHP functionary in MP. Not a good week for Hindus. :(


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