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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby tandav » 07 Nov 2019 09:08

So basically Police cannot act on the Judicial System even when they cross the line. There will be blow back in terms of reduced security to the Lawyers and Judges. Few will potentially lose their lives in robbery incidents. In this fracas the only losers are citizens, who know that both the Police and the Judicial System are rotten to the core. Tareek pe Tareek and Hafte pe Hafta.

How to reform the Indian Bureaucracy : Police, IAS, IPS, Judiciary: At least the Politicians we can throw out every 4 years.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Sachin » 07 Nov 2019 13:50

Aditya_V wrote:Delhi HC has passed an order for no action against lawyers, while asking Police seniors to be transferred, that was the trigger.

Such orders pretty much makes any one question the impartiality of the judiciary. They have already assumed that the lawyers make no mistakes and the police is at fault here. In such a situation how can any police man be even confident that they would get justice? I was reading some posts on social media. One remedy suggested was to stop the practise of advocates becoming judges. The judicial service have to be a completely different service, so much so that in the worse case an advocate and police man will have equal approach to the judges (for good or bad). Today this is a one-sided match.

Police trying to indiminate lawyers is a suicide mission, guaranteed career ending and going to jail without compensation and the family going to ruin.

I remember a dialogue by the Com.Pol (Paresh Rawal) in the old movie Sathya. He says - "Criminals can break the law, because they any way care two hoots about it. The police can do nothing because the laws stop us from taking action". And to be frank I am quite frusturated to see that the great Home Minister Amit Shah has done nothing about this; even when it happened in New Delhi. Shows the empathy such characters have for the L&O officials (whom they actually command and is supposed to effectively use). The BJP Govt. has done diddly squat; perhaps they too are $hit scared of the lawyers & judiciary.

tandav wrote:So basically Police cannot act on the Judicial System even when they cross the line.

Atleast the latest orders from Delhi HC confirms your thoughts. Judiciary is above law, and lawyers are also above the law. Politicians can be changed every five years. IAS, IPS officers also have checks and balances (including transfers, side-lining and finally even termination). The only one entity today which is completely "independent" is the judicial apparatus. And I don't know how far such a system will benefit India.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Aditya_V » 07 Nov 2019 14:20

The present system only benefits the NGO mafia and BIF, even if people want to do the right thing, they have enough checks to make sure the criminals, lack of development of local Industry, flgiht of capital to Global Financial Centers, assorted miltants and Maoists keep running.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Karthik S » 07 Nov 2019 15:13

Sachin wrote:..


Sachin sir, have you heard of such group before in KL? How serious is this?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Sonugn » 07 Nov 2019 19:17

Karthik S wrote:
Sachin wrote:..


Sachin sir, have you heard of such group before in KL? How serious is this?

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I believe this is the first time an explicit sena is being formed. The mandate for this sena is "guardians of faith and warriors of ideals". It is being said that this is for crowd control during processions etc. But others speculate, worst case being, Sturmabteilung of the clergy to silence dissenting nuns etc. Worrying would be if similar sena's start in neighboring TN where Bishop Ezra has already threatened Hindus.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sanjayc » 07 Nov 2019 19:53

Sachin wrote:[
One remedy suggested was to stop the practise of advocates becoming judges.


This will solve a lot of problems.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Sachin » 09 Nov 2019 14:50

Karthik S wrote:Sachin sir, have you heard of such group before in KL? How serious is this?

I would not think this to be any thing serious. From what I read this is not a pan-Kerala movement, but only limited to north Kerala. This would be the 2nd attempt from the X'ians of KL to form such an outfit. Their first attempt was way back in 1958 when there was a huge protest to get the communist ministry under EMS Namboodirippad to be thrown out. It was called the "Vimochana Samaram" (liberation struggle), and it was quite violent. A Roman Catholic priest from Thrissur Dt. Fr. Vadakkan had organised a kind of rag tag outfit called the "Christopher Volunteer Sena"; mainly as an attempt to counter the commie goonda gang. The commies had used their usual muscle power to target the people who were leading this "liberation struggle".

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby vimal » 10 Nov 2019 08:16

Sachin wrote:
Karthik S wrote:Sachin sir, have you heard of such group before in KL? How serious is this?

I would not think this to be any thing serious. From what I read this is not a pan-Kerala movement, but only limited to north Kerala. This would be the 2nd attempt from the X'ians of KL to form such an outfit. Their first attempt was way back in 1958 when there was a huge protest to get the communist ministry under EMS Namboodirippad to be thrown out. It was called the "Vimochana Samaram" (liberation struggle), and it was quite violent. A Roman Catholic priest from Thrissur Dt. Fr. Vadakkan had organised a kind of rag tag outfit called the "Christopher Volunteer Sena"; mainly as an attempt to counter the commie goonda gang. The commies had used their usual muscle power to target the people who were leading this "liberation struggle".


Can't help notice the word "Vimochana Samaram". It's classic Sanskrit meaning exactly as it is Malyali.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Rony » 12 Nov 2019 04:26

https://twitter.com/pratheesh_Hind/stat ... 6178052102 (video)

Popular Front protest march in Kerala against Ayodhya veerdict.

They openly calling ''We will do revenge''.

What is Kerala CM who himself handles home ministry doing. Openly letting them do war cry and hiding somewhere


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