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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Sicanta » 26 Aug 2017 20:01

After denial, the admission: Love Jihad, a reality in Kerala

http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/ ... 46--1.html

Now, after many years of vacillation, the Kerala Police have admitted the state has been witnessing ‘Love Jihad’ for some time. The confidential report has brought focus on a self-styled fundamental group called ‘Dawa Squad’ is actively converting youngsters in Kerala into Islam. It further says the squad targets youth from the Ezhava community more than any others.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Supratik » 31 Aug 2017 09:30

X-post

NIA and Kerala police have come out with two separate reports on organized conversion racket of young Hindu and Christian girls in Kerala. The outfits are PFI, SDPI and a NGO called Sathyasarini. About two girls are converted each day. More than 10000 have been converted in the last 20 years. This has encouragement from both the Congress and Communists irrespective of who is in power. There are cases where girls have entered sex racket in gulf and even exported to Afghn and ISIS-held territory. Girls are mostly Ezhavas, young and educated. The NIA is investigating under SC orders. We need a way out to ban these outfits like Zakir Naik.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sum » 31 Aug 2017 10:28

No need to explain which locals these were:
Army men, locals clash over eviction notice

Tension prevailed in Kaval Byrasandra following a clash between military personnel and locals on Wednesday.

Clashes broke out after the Parachute Regiment Training Centre (PRTC) initiated an eviction process to take over administration of a mosque and a temple near Modi Garden in JC Nagar.

A few residents were injured when the military men started caning civilians who threw stones at them to prevent their entry into the mosque.


The mosque premises includes quarters for three families, one for the Imam, the other for Mouzhan, and the third for the caretaker of the mosque. On Saturday, the three occupants received eviction notices through Speed Post from the city administration and on Tuesday, the defence personnel pasted eviction notices on their doors.

Eviction notices were also served on the two occupants of the Anjaneya temple, who moved out by Tuesday, the police said.


The army had even disconnected electricity and water supply to the mosque. The mosque draws electricity from a private resident and buys water from tankers.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Marten » 31 Aug 2017 10:36

sum wrote:No need to explain which locals these were:
Army men, locals clash over eviction notice

Tension prevailed in Kaval Byrasandra following a clash between military personnel and locals on Wednesday.

Clashes broke out after the Parachute Regiment Training Centre (PRTC) initiated an eviction process to take over administration of a mosque and a temple near Modi Garden in JC Nagar.

A few residents were injured when the military men started caning civilians who threw stones at them to prevent their entry into the mosque.


The mosque premises includes quarters for three families, one for the Imam, the other for Mouzhan, and the third for the caretaker of the mosque. On Saturday, the three occupants received eviction notices through Speed Post from the city administration and on Tuesday, the defence personnel pasted eviction notices on their doors.

Eviction notices were also served on the two occupants of the Anjaneya temple, who moved out by Tuesday, the police said.


The army had even disconnected electricity and water supply to the mosque. The mosque draws electricity from a private resident and buys water from tankers.

The approach road to the main gate is mostly Muslim. The back gates are close to the P&T colony which is mostly quite sober locals. However, a km beyond this region is the Ambedkar medical college and all nearby areas are mostly Muslim (Arabic College, Tannery Road for those who know the geography). Back gates will be under siege from these hordes. A metro line is planned along that route and the area is really congested. The clashes will bring this city to a halt unless an unbiased administration takes charge. There is more to say about the area but not outside the Burqa.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sum » 31 Aug 2017 10:47

^^ Yes saar. The navy mess is right there which i used to visit earlier in childhood and am initmately aware of the place since lots of relatives have been there from 90-100 years.

Most of the navy folks used to curse staying there due to mosque loudspeakers( many of them) which start blaring from 4 AM right next to the windows and make any sleep impossible.

All in all, a very "arabised" place with the important institutions like Para regt surrounded and encroached by certain communities

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby darshhan » 31 Aug 2017 19:42

sum wrote:^^ Yes saar. The navy mess is right there which i used to visit earlier in childhood and am initmately aware of the place since lots of relatives have been there from 90-100 years.

Most of the navy folks used to curse staying there due to mosque loudspeakers( many of them) which start blaring from 4 AM right next to the windows and make any sleep impossible.

All in all, a very "arabised" place with the important institutions like Para regt surrounded and encroached by certain communities


That is why our para regt is so good. Even in peacetime they are staying behind the enemy lines. By default.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Neela » 04 Sep 2017 10:33

The whole Rohingya issue sounds fishy & there seems to be larger interests at play.
How come no one talks about dialogue between Rohingyas & Myanmar. The only solution being proposed seems to involve India accepting them. I am reminded of a BBC program on how India should accept Rohingyas a few years back. And Syu Ki's British links makes it really suspicious.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Gus » 07 Sep 2017 20:29

The end has begun for hurriedrats

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-da ... ed-2543690
Jammu & Kashmir Liberation Front leader Yasin Malik was arrested on Thursday and shifted to a Central Jail in Srinagar till September 11, it has been reported.

Sources said the Mirwaiz Umar Farooq was placed under house arrest to prevent the separatist leaders from going to Delhi tomorrow.

Malik was detained at his office a day after he threatened to march to the National Investigation Agency in New Delhi after separatists were arrested for their role in stone pelting in the Valley.

On Wednesday, two men, including a freelance photo-journalist, arrested yesterday for alleged stone-pelting in Kashmir Valley and mobilising support against security personnel through the social media, were on Wednesday sent to 10-day NIA custody for interrogation. Responding to the move, Malik said that he would not be intimidated by the NIA move. "We will go to the NIA gate to protest," said Malik.

During in-chamber proceedings, the NIA also said the two had to be taken to various places in relation to the ongoing investigation, the sources said.

Continuing with its probe in the funding of terror and separatist activities in the Kashmir Valley, the NIA had yesterday arrested Bhat and Yusuf.

According to the agency, they were involved in stone- pelting incidents besides organising groups of youths who would throw stones at security personnel involved in counter- insurgency operations.

Yusuf, who had often been warned by the local police, was allegedly mobilising the youth and clicking their pictures for circulation in local and national newspapers, it had said.

The two, also circulated pictures and videos on social networking sites that sparked widespread rumours in the Valley, the officials alleged.

The NIA has arrested seven people in the case of alleged funding of terror and subversive activities in the Kashmir Valley to fuel unrest there.

The case was registered on issues of raising, receiving and collecting funds through various illegal means, including hawala channels, for funding such activities.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Karthik S » 07 Sep 2017 20:49

He should be transferred to a jail outside Kashmir.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Karthik S » 11 Sep 2017 08:56

Prashant P. Umrao‏Verified account @ippatel
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Riot in Jaipur, 'Pakistan Jindabad' slogans in Varanasi by 'peaceful' people.
One Pak was made in 1947, now today many inside Bharat!

Prashant P. Umrao‏Verified account @ippatel 11h11 hours ago
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Replying to @ippatel
Sardar Patel had said-"Muslims who are still in India, many of them helped in creation of Pak.
Baba Sahab wanted to exchange of population.

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Stones & Acid bottles on Roof in 'peaceful' areas.Police Drone Took these images in Jaipur.
Kashmir like situation,They are ready for Jihad.

Prashant P. Umrao‏Verified account @ippatel 1h1 hour ago
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They are planning for Jihad.First protest for Rohingyas in Haldwani, now Pak Jindabad note in Kotdwar. Mostly BJP ruled states on target.

Prashant P. Umrao‏Verified account @ippatel 53m53 minutes ago
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Out of the 101 Muslim ICS officers, 95 had opted for Pakistan at time of partition. Others left later after completing their jobs in Bharat.


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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sum » 11 Sep 2017 09:26

^^ What are these riots in Varanasi for?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Karthik S » 11 Sep 2017 09:35

Saw a tweet that said few returned from Haj. Don't know if that's the reason.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby niran » 11 Sep 2017 09:44

sum wrote:^^ What are these riots in Varanasi for?

what riots? i do not show any. last week few kids threw their classmate from 4th floor to death in Sun Beam ishkool is the only local news.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby kittoo » 11 Sep 2017 09:46

If they can do this in places like Rajasthan, Uttarakhand etc., where their population isnt even all that much, then what awaits places lke KEerala, WB, UP and more! Long term prognosis for India is not good at all, until unless severe measures are taken right now. I wish in 1947 we had listened to Babasaheb Ambedkar or at least Patel.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby niran » 11 Sep 2017 09:55

kittoo wrote:If they can do this in places like Rajasthan, Uttarakhand etc., where their population isnt even all that much, then what awaits places lke KEerala, WB, UP and more! Long term prognosis for India is not good at all, until unless severe measures are taken right now. I wish in 1947 we had listened to Babasaheb Ambedkar or at least Patel.

in Jaipur they have substantial presence in Uttarakhand sulla presence has been growing at rapid pace since half a decade of scamgress government. they have developed their sulla slums in Haridwar and Rishikesh

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby kittoo » 11 Sep 2017 10:05

niran wrote:
kittoo wrote:If they can do this in places like Rajasthan, Uttarakhand etc., where their population isnt even all that much, then what awaits places lke KEerala, WB, UP and more! Long term prognosis for India is not good at all, until unless severe measures are taken right now. I wish in 1947 we had listened to Babasaheb Ambedkar or at least Patel.

in Jaipur they have substantial presence in Uttarakhand sulla presence has been growing at rapid pace since half a decade of scamgress government. they have developed their sulla slums in Haridwar and Rishikesh


Just checked and looks like you are right. They are almost 20% in Jaipur.
Also, they are demanding 1 crore rupees, government job and suspension of entire staff of Ramganj police station. The gall!

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Chandragupta » 11 Sep 2017 10:07

Jaipur Old city is like Old Delhi - a big sulla slum. Uttarakhand and Western UP are worse - like Pakistan. If I put a blindfold on your eyes and take you to Western UP and tell you that you are in Pakistan, you will believe it - 200%.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Karthik S » 11 Sep 2017 10:10

kittoo wrote:
niran wrote:in Jaipur they have substantial presence in Uttarakhand sulla presence has been growing at rapid pace since half a decade of scamgress government. they have developed their sulla slums in Haridwar and Rishikesh


Just checked and looks like you are right. They are almost 20% in Jaipur.
Also, they are demanding 1 crore rupees, government job and suspension of entire staff of Ramganj police station. The gall!


The police and political establishment are a joke in this country, no matter who the govt is. The police will take action only on GRR supporters, karsevaks etc.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby ramana » 12 Sep 2017 03:02

In Mysore, the police have arrested a killer suspected in two murders. Turns out the guy had murdered five others since 2008. Al his victims are Hindu organization members except for one Muslim woman. And Police from Commissioner level are so innocent about what was happening!

I think the victim families should file a case for negligence on the Police.
Nine long years of blind ness.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby SSridhar » 14 Sep 2017 17:11

Breaking News

Amarnath Terror attack mastermind LeT's Abu Ismael killed in an encounter.

Excellent news. Indian armed forces are vigorously after all these terrorists. Salute.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Shanmukh » 14 Sep 2017 19:44

Cross posted from the Rohingya thread.

Rohingya (or maybe Rohingya pasand) terrorists planned to attack the Mahabodhi temple to protest against Burmese atrocities on the Rohingya.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/o ... 681959.ece

There you go - the Rohingya based terrorism has already started in India. Wait for the shrill chorus from the Liberals & their western allies about how the poor disoriented Rohingyas should not be deported or they will do big time terrorism in India because they have no choice.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Karthik S » 18 Sep 2017 10:44

BSF man killed by cow smuggler near India-Bangladesh border


http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... r-4843992/

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Aditya_V » 18 Sep 2017 11:26

See the Boldness these guys are Having with the TMC fully backing them, they are now murdering our Jawans. Offcourse the Courts will only try and tie the hand out the Jawans but never come down heavily on those supporting these smugglers.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby vish_mulay » 26 Sep 2017 11:28

http://www.dy365.in/news_details.php?aI ... bC=2&top=N
Bomb-making chemicals worth crores seized in Nagaon: three arrested

Unconfirmed report suggesting 38 KG of bomb making quality Uranium. Hope it is just rumour and not reality.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Supratik » 03 Oct 2017 21:02

Home ministry meeting to consider PFI ban.

https://www.oneindia.com/india/ban-on-p ... 55204.html

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby arvin » 03 Oct 2017 21:26

Defence Minister Nirmala sitharaman (in capacity of BJP worker) comes on Republic TV debate on security situation in kerala. Today Amit shah had a 8km padh yatra in payyanur in Kannur district in Kerala. Tommorrow Yogi adiyanath would carry forward the padh yatra.
CPI violence being monitored at the highest level in central govt.
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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Sachin » 03 Oct 2017 21:32

Supratik wrote:Home ministry meeting to consider PFI ban.

This news was also put up some time last week. In Kerala, I saw posters of PFI for a protest demonstration scheduled to happen later this month. It was said to be a "doubt clearing" demonstration, in which PFI would prove that they are no into terrorism :P :roll: . So looks like even they know that a ban is mostly on its way.

The ban may also have an impact on the Akhila @ Hadiya case, in which the Supreme Court themselves had ordered an NIA enquiry of alleged religious conversion and involvement of PFI people in the same. PFI folks were also actively involved a protest march in front of Kerala High Court in which threats were issued to the judge, and even talks about a "Badr War" was raised.

arvin wrote:CPI violence being monitored at the highest level in central govt.

Minor correction. CPI in Kerala are a bunch of dinosaurs who actually are a non-entity in politics. Their cadre is mainly intellectuals or old people who generally do not pick up fights with any one. Their vote share also is poor when compared to CPI(M). The murder culture is mainly part of CPI(M), with the Northern districts of Kerala being their major cadre base. CPI today is actually playing a second fiddle to CPI(M) in Kerala government. And at times they also do a Shiv Sena trick on the CPI(M). All this when CPI was the senior party, and CPI(M) was a split from them.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby arvin » 03 Oct 2017 21:35

^^^ Ok. Didnt know this difference.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Supratik » 03 Oct 2017 21:51

PFI ban should include SDPI and Sathyasarani. These are tentacles of the same monster. Otherwise just banning PFI will allow other arms to operate like Hafiz Saeed.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby ramana » 04 Oct 2017 03:05

What/Who are SDPI and Sathyasarani?

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Postby Supratik » 04 Oct 2017 14:26

SDPI is the political arm and Sathyasarani is the conversion center I believe.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Sachin » 04 Oct 2017 14:46

Supratik wrote:PFI ban should include SDPI and Sathyasarani. These are tentacles of the same monster. Otherwise just banning PFI will allow other arms to operate like Hafiz Saeed.

It is known to every one that banning PFI would just be a token move. Jihadi activities would not stop with this, and monitoring of such elements needs to continue. And the PFI cadre would just move into another new outfit or join other more "progressive liberal" political parties like the CPI(M). There is a strong belief in KL, that CPI(M) and their student unions like SFI has been heavily infiltrated by the SDPI and PFI cadre.

ramana wrote:What/Who are SDPI and Sathyasarani?

SDPI is a political outfit launched in 2009. It is a party of the Islamic radicals, even though they claim to be secular and liberal. Popular Front of India (PFI) is another Islamic social outfit, ostensibly involved in social campaigns & minority welfare. These are all new outfits which got launched after the first version of these Muslim out fits - ISS (Islamic Sevak Sangh, launched by Abdul Naser Mahdani), then the NDF (National Development Front launched after ISS got banned) and SIMI (Students Islamic Movement of India, one of the earliest such schemes more popular in North India). ISS->NDF->SIMI were all banned, and then organisations like PFI and SDPI took shape. "Sathya Sarani" is a Muslim religious establishment operating in Kerala, who is involved in conversion of people from other religion to Islam. In at least two cases PFI cadre actively indoctrinated Hindu girls, then took them to this madrassah to brainwash them further and then convert them to Islam.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby ramana » 04 Oct 2017 20:24

So there is strong case for banning these two as ISIS recruiting mechanisms

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Dilbu » 04 Oct 2017 21:31

They were not just converting girls but they were then married off to moojahids who would then take his family to Syria, Yemen and such holy places. Even in the case of this Hadia, the parents were okay with her conversion in the beginning. She casually mentioned her plans to go to Syria and that is when the alert father took the case to police and courts. These organisations should be banned asap.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby ramana » 05 Oct 2017 02:08

Exactly Dilbu. That's why can invoke NIA as these are being carted off to join ISIS.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Sachin » 05 Oct 2017 15:47

On Judicial execution..
Ajmal Kasab’s hanging felt like a stone on my head for two, three days: Meeran Borwankar
Witnessing a judicial execution is not really a pleasant activity; but don't know if Indian Express tried to spin the story to say that judicial executions should be stopped. And to be frank, the sand bag tests etc. are done by the executioner or prison staff. An IPS officer or a Jail Supdt. rarely have to do this in person. Same goes with the actual execution. They have to be witnesses, but the actual pinning down of the condemned man, placing the hood & the noose etc. is done by the executioner. And they rarely get any counselling etc.

In Ajmal Kasab hanging, secrecy was priority. In Yakub Memon case, entire country was watching: Meeran Chadha Borwankar

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby kapilrdave » 05 Oct 2017 16:43

^^ That makes her unfit for the job she did. An IG needs to be tough. Police department is not bhajan mandali.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Sachin » 06 Oct 2017 21:12

x-posted from ISIS & India thread..
Sachin wrote:Once again ISIS & Kerala Connection...
Tamil Nadu: NIA apprehends merchant over SIM used to contact ISIS
Amir was apprehended in Kerala's Kochi, and interrogated in Mettupalayam, the report said

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^^^^Very good


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