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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby ramana » 18 May 2017 19:49

DrRatnadip wrote:http://m.timesofindia.com/city/bhopal/crpf-hits-back-after-sukma-carnage-guns-down-10-15-maoists-in-bastar/articleshow/58709648.cms

BHOPAL/RAIPUR: The CRPF on Tuesday claimed to have gunned down 10-15 Maoists in a massive operation after "storming the core area" of the rebels in Bastar's Dantewada on Sunday, in a bid to avenge the massacre of 25 jawans in Sukma on April 24.

No bodies discovered..



Reporting bias: claimed, gunned down, avenge etc.

Don't worry its happening and fast.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Singha » 18 May 2017 19:53

india should work toward exchanging prisoners like east and west did in some bridge in berlin

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby chetak » 18 May 2017 22:18

Singha wrote:india should work toward exchanging prisoners like east and west did in some bridge in berlin


checkpoint charlie.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Falijee » 20 May 2017 17:56

Zakir Naik granted citizenship of Saudi Arabia: sources

According to MiddleEast Monitor, Indian Islamic preacher, Dr Zakir Naik, who is wanted by authorities in Delhi for alleged terrorist offences, has been granted citizenship by Saudi Arabia.Arab sources reported that King Salman had intervened to grant Naik Saudi citizenship to protect him from arrest by the International Police Organisation, Interpol.Last month, Indian courts issued a second arrest warrant for Dr Naik in connection with his alleged role in a terror-related case and over money laundering allegations. Naik, who was on tour at the time, decided not to return to India and remained in Malaysia where permanent residency status was granted to him five years ago by the Malaysian government.The 51-year-old preacher left India last year, allegedly to evade arrest after some perpetrators of the Dhaka terror attack claimed they were inspired by him.Indian press reported that the country’s enforcement officials were moving to revoke his passport and request Interpol issue an arrest warrant for him.It was believed that Naik, who had by then moved to Saudi Arabia, would be forced to return to India if his passport was revoked. The Mumbai passport office, which appears not to have anticipated Saudi Arabia granting citizenship to Naik, moved to revoke his passport while a special court sent out an arrest warrant for him.

If confirmed , it is BIG ! First, it proves this (so-called) preacher's radical status. Secondly, his guilty conscience. Thirdly, it shows to what extent, Saudi Arabia, the fountainhead of extreme Islamism and Wahabism , would go to protect one of its own propagators , in spite of overwhelming evidence against this person and Saudia's professed friendly ties with India . India should lodge a strong protest !!!

PS: Saudi citizenship - for non-Saudi born - is exceptional !

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby chetak » 20 May 2017 21:21

^^^^^^^

It's a very very specific message to India and the ummah.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby uddu » 20 May 2017 22:28

The Saud's have taken their stance. They declared that they are against the Indians. So from now on let's add them to our enemy list.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby abhik » 20 May 2017 23:44

And we let the Saudi rapist diplomat and father-in-law go scot free.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby vijayk » 21 May 2017 02:29

can we knock off zakir naik b4 kutta goes to saudi?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby ramana » 21 May 2017 11:57

He is in Saudi no?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Karthik S » 21 May 2017 12:00

^^ Malaysia.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby anupmisra » 21 May 2017 19:09

Will India offer citizenship status, if asked, to saudi dissidents? Does India have an extradition treaty with the saudis?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Austin » 23 May 2017 21:51

Zakir Naik has already won King Faisal award from Saudi King thats like the Highest Civilian Award in Saudi for any one to get.

So its not surprising he would be granted Saudi Citizenship , He has been preaching Wahhabism Islamic doctrine faithfully in many countries.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Pathik » 24 May 2017 07:13

The jackal will lead a luxurious life in the desert kingdom, touring countries and doing what he does best - spew venom from the mic. It will only get louder and anti-hindu/pagan. The SA citizenship is his license to kill. Question is, what can India do to stop creating more jackals in future or remove his legacy?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Austin » 24 May 2017 13:30

Pathik wrote:The jackal will lead a luxurious life in the desert kingdom, touring countries and doing what he does best - spew venom from the mic. It will only get louder and anti-hindu/pagan. The SA citizenship is his license to kill. Question is, what can India do to stop creating more jackals in future or remove his legacy?


We should just demand he be returned back as he is Indian Citizen and wanted in criminal charges under Indian Law.
Getting him back from Saudi is more difficult then getting Dawood back from Pakistan.

Saudi has been known to fund Madarasas in Kashmir and if we push to hard they would tighten the screw in Kashmir and we have no way to retaliate against the Muslim Terror Ummah in chief.

Best would be to confiscate his property and bank account , Ban his Videos etc on youtube in India and hope he does not turn back to India.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Karthik S » 24 May 2017 13:34

Austin wrote:Saudi has been known to fund Madarasas in Kashmir and if we push to hard they would tighten the screw in Kashmir and we have no way to retaliate against the Muslim Terror Ummah in chief.


They will tighten screws in Kashmir, how? And that will lead to what?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Sachin » 24 May 2017 16:30

A positive news, on how vigilant or alert people are getting these days.
Mumbai: 6 youths detained after typing out 'bomb' in WhatsApp chats
An alert train passenger noticed the group of six youths speaking in a unknown language (for him; which was Malayalam) which made him also notice what they were typing on WhatsApp chat. He informed the police when it was found that they were typing in words like "Bomb".

The same news, was completely twisted and reported by the local vernacular Malayalam daily - "Mathrubhumi".
'വാട്സാപ്പ് ബോംബ്' കുരുക്കായി; മലയാളികളായ 'കുഞ്ഞു ഭീകരര്‍' മുംബൈയില്‍ വലഞ്ഞു...... (Small children 'terrorists' land in trouble, when they wrote Bomb on WhatsApp).

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby shravanp » 24 May 2017 19:47

During UPA rule, ZN was roaming freely in India giving virulent speeches and it simply outrageous how in a supposedly "secular" nation can one be allowed a public platform for someone to openly say "My religion is better than yours". RoPers would immediately counter this argument by saying "You are free to challenge ZN on debate". (Yea sure, in front of blood thirsty mob as audience, what a sight it would be to behold if I were to call Mo a con-man).

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Anindya » 25 May 2017 02:31

Was talking to a friend who sometimes writes opinion columns on Pakistan & other security issues....

Reminded me of the last time, we had significant tensions on the border & a BJP government at center - Gujarat riots followed. Riots in Saharanpur may just be the beginning apparently....

There are already reports of the Bhim army being funded by shady sources....

Any thoughts on similar situations being created or exacerbated as tensions rise on the border?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sudeepj » 25 May 2017 07:26

Far left extremist and promoter of communist violence, Kavita Krishnan has promoted the founding day of the Naxalbari terrorist movement on her twitter and linked to the website of a terrorist organization, CPI-ML. Do your bit for a Swachh Bharat and report her account for promoting hate towards a group of people. Linking her tweet for you to read and report for yourself.

https://twitter.com/kavita_krishnan/sta ... 7118642176

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Raja Bose » 25 May 2017 07:56

I have reported that tweet. I suggest everybody here do so. You don't need a twitter account to report I think.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Marten » 25 May 2017 09:35

Raja Bose wrote:I have reported that tweet. I suggest everybody here do so. You don't need a twitter account to report I think.

Did too. Reported it for spreading hatred against a group of people.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Rudradev » 25 May 2017 09:40

Reported.

Please do what you can to ensure this initiative takes off with as many reports as possible

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Marten » 25 May 2017 09:43

Can we use the Social media thread and have someone alert the list so such tweets can be reported?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Santosh » 25 May 2017 10:23

#GauravPradhan‏ @DrGPradhan 12h12 hours ago

By the way @Shehla_Rashid Ji, is it true that behind "abhijeet" handle suspension, it was all Lal Salaam & JNU gang?
WHY? How is Janab?

Looks like DGP twitter handle may also get suspended. Abhijeet is suspended and Sonu Nigam quit twitter.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby SSridhar » 25 May 2017 10:44

Gujarat blasts case accused held in Kerala - The Hindu
The Ahmedabad police have arrested Shoaib Pottanikal, a key accused in the 2008 serial blasts case, from Kozhikode in Kerala.

A police team, involving officials from the Ahmedabad Crime Branch, Kerala Police and Intelligence arrested the accused after he landed at the Kozhikode airport on an international flight.

Shoaib is one of the 18 absconding accused in the blasts in which 56 people were killed in the city. “He had escaped overseas after the blasts,” Ahmedabad Crime Branch joint commissioner of police J.K. Bhatt said on Wednesday.

Shoaib knew Sainuddin and Sarfuddin, the two persons held for allegedly providing electronic chips used in bombs for the 2008 blasts, and helped the operatives of Indian Mujahideen and SIMI get in touch with them, Mr. Bhatt said. Yasin Bhatkal, one of the main accused, had also told the sleuths about Shoaib’s role. Shoaib hails from Malappuram.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Karthik S » 25 May 2017 14:18

Republic‏Verified account @republic
#BREAKING: Three Pakistani nationals arrested in Bengaluru for producing incomplete documents. More details awaited

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Supratik » 25 May 2017 14:28

Ho ho. tit for tat.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Singha » 25 May 2017 14:55

http://www.ndtv.com/bangalore-news/3-pa ... ed-1703776

^^ absconding lovers they claim to be

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Singha » 25 May 2017 14:58

uddu wrote:The Saud's have taken their stance. They declared that they are against the Indians. So from now on let's add them to our enemy list.


I say india should abandon the saudi labour market , and ban any form of saudi funding into indian mosques and madrasas. a lot of indian muslim workers have got radicalized there, nobody knows what damage they will do later. let them work in other parts of the world.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Sachin » 25 May 2017 17:18

Singha wrote:^^ absconding lovers they claim to be

Seems to be frauds of the first order!!
Pak woman reaches India to stay with Keralite husband, arrested in Bengaluru......
  • The husband/lover of the Pakistani woman is said to be a Malayali, from Kannur Dt. North Kerala.
  • Muhammad Shihab got acquainted with the Pakistanis while he was working in Qatar. He had an affair with Sameera, which ended up in their marriage. Later, they got disconnected for reasons unknown {Yeah, may be for getting some training on spy work}.
  • The woman landed up in Bangalore, nine months ago along with two more Pakistanis (a couple). Shihab was happy to provide them with Indian ID proofs and documents {Off course, any thing for love}.
  • They were all camping at Yarab Nagar, Kumaraswamy layout, Southern Bangalore {Off course at a friendly ghetto}.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Singha » 25 May 2017 17:20

could be trying to worm into the various Govt labs here or setup sleeper cells.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Sachin » 25 May 2017 18:20

x-posted from the Phobia thread..
A curious case of "Love Jehad" (from Kerala)

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Supratik » 25 May 2017 20:36

Malabar along with Kashmir are areas where Islamists have impunity. The only official Islamic conversions centers after ZN was exiled are in Kerala.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby IndraD » 25 May 2017 21:28

Image
uzma crossing over into India ..


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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby SSridhar » 27 May 2017 07:50

Terror alert issued in Delhi, Mumbai - Somreet Bhattacharya, ToI
Intelligence agencies have issued an alert about a possible terror strike by Lashkar-e-Taiba in metros, including Delhi and Mumbai, or in border areas of Punjab and Rajasthan.

The agencies said a group of 20-21 LeT operatives may have entered India from Pakistan and subsequently divided themselves into smaller groups.

These men have been trained by Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence, the input said.

Police have issued an advisory to ensure tight monitoring and strengthened anti-terror measures at Metro and railway stations, airports, hotels popular among tourists, crowded markets, religious places and stadiums in Delhi, said the advisory. The alert says the infiltrators plan to out a "spectacular terrorist incident," so as to attract media attention.

Intelligence officers suspect the terrorists may carry out a medium intensity blast by a suicide bomber at a crowded location. Police have also been asked to conduct proper frisking and checking, besides tightening security. Earlier in May, a top US intelligence official had warned that Pakistan-based terrorist groups were planning attacks in India while asserting that Islamabad had failed to rein in terrorists.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby chetak » 27 May 2017 08:27

Singha wrote:http://www.ndtv.com/bangalore-news/3-pakistani-nationals-staying-in-bengaluru-under-false-identities-arrested-1703776

^^ absconding lovers they claim to be


If the nepal route to India is as simple as these pakis claim that it is, it simply means that there already may be tens of thousands of pakis already in India.

Something is very fishy here.

Why is foolish India having open borders with all and sundry two bit countries who are openly inimical towards us??

What are we trying to prove and to whom??

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Asit P » 27 May 2017 20:41

chetak wrote:If the nepal route to India is as simple as these pakis claim that it is, it simply means that there already may be tens of thousands of pakis already in India.

Something is very fishy here.

Why is foolish India having open borders with all and sundry two bit countries who are openly inimical towards us??


India and Nepal have a porous border and citizens of both the countries don't need a passport or a visa to cross the border. There are millions of Nepalis who work in India, and there are many Indians who have their business interests in Nepal. The general border area population on both the sides suffer from acute poverty (although their situation is now beginning to improve), and it is pretty common for the locals to cross the border (they can literally walk on foot) for buying goods that are cheaper on the other side. For example items of daily usage like salt is cheaper in India while Nepal is flooded with cheap Chinese products.

Owing to thousand of years of historical ties, marriages between people from both the sides is also very common. It is worth mentioning that Janakpur, the capital of King Janak whose name is mentioned in the holy epic Ramayana happens to be in Nepal, while the place (Sitamarhi) where his plough struck the pot which had goddess Sita; is in India. The people living on the border area in Nepal side are known as 'Madhesis' and unlike their 'Pahari' countrymen, some of whom have become sympathetic towards China owing to Maoist indoctrination, are still very friendly and loyal towards India.

Pakistan has been using the Nepal route to send terrorists to India every now and then. However, owing to several problems such as Nepal's strong ties with India, problem in smuggling automatic weapons etc., it is not their preferred route. What is a matter of great concern though is the fake currency racket run by ISI in both Nepal and India, and also the mushrooming of mosques and madarsas in the border areas. If not nipped in the bud, they would definitely turn out to be the thorn in our flesh sometime in future.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby chetak » 28 May 2017 08:08

Asit P wrote:
chetak wrote:If the nepal route to India is as simple as these pakis claim that it is, it simply means that there already may be tens of thousands of pakis already in India.

Something is very fishy here.

Why is foolish India having open borders with all and sundry two bit countries who are openly inimical towards us??


India and Nepal have a porous border and citizens of both the countries don't need a passport or a visa to cross the border. There are millions of Nepalis who work in India, and there are many Indians who have their business interests in Nepal. The general border area population on both the sides suffer from acute poverty (although their situation is now beginning to improve), and it is pretty common for the locals to cross the border (they can literally walk on foot) for buying goods that are cheaper on the other side. For example items of daily usage like salt is cheaper in India while Nepal is flooded with cheap Chinese products.

Owing to thousand of years of historical ties, marriages between people from both the sides is also very common. It is worth mentioning that Janakpur, the capital of King Janak whose name is mentioned in the holy epic Ramayana happens to be in Nepal, while the place (Sitamarhi) where his plough struck the pot which had goddess Sita; is in India. The people living on the border area in Nepal side are known as 'Madhesis' and unlike their 'Pahari' countrymen, some of whom have become sympathetic towards China owing to Maoist indoctrination, are still very friendly and loyal towards India.

Pakistan has been using the Nepal route to send terrorists to India every now and then. However, owing to several problems such as Nepal's strong ties with India, problem in smuggling automatic weapons etc., it is not their preferred route. What is a matter of great concern though is the fake currency racket run by ISI in both Nepal and India, and also the mushrooming of mosques and madarsas in the border areas. If not nipped in the bud, they would definitely turn out to be the thorn in our flesh sometime in future.


The situation has changed and in keeping with the changed situation, we should protect ourselves instead of professing some outmoded cultural connection and dangerous sympathy for the nepalis who have become hostile towards us and its high time that we recognised it as such and acted accordingly.

Seal the borders and institute strict border controls and be done with it.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Sachin » 30 May 2017 15:22

Dawn-to-dusk hartal in Ernakulam......
This may be a "first" in Kerala (and may be India). A new organisation "Muslim Ekopana Samithi" (Muslim Unification Commitee) has called for this harthal/bandh, against a High Court order.

The case was that a Hindu girl, studying for a Homeo Medicine course was lured by two of her hostel mates to Islam. She was then moved to an establishment Satyasarini, where she converted to Islam, after "understanding Islam". The girl's parents could not find her, and had also filed a habious corpus petition. The court had asked the people who brought her into the court to provide her in safe custody, till the next hearing. During the next hearing (happened a week back), the court found out that the girl was also married to another Muslim man. Some other people had officiated the marriage in the capacity as "parents". The High Court annulled the marriage stating that in an Islamic marriage, it is the girl's father who has to sign on the marriage contract and that has not happened in this case. The High Court then asked the girl to be taken to a government approved holding center for women, and then ordered her to be sent back with her parents. The police complied, and the girl was sent to her original home; even when she was heard saying that she did not want to go back. The Muslim organisations were protesting against this court order.

From social media, I understand that the harthal/bandh was lukewarm, with BJP & RSS encouraging Hindu shop keepers to open their shops and continue business.

Rampur molestation video row: Four arrested in Uttar Pradesh, police to slap Gonda Act on accused
#Rampur incident update~Total 4 arrested till now .1-Shahnawaz 2-Saddam 3- Danish 4- Farman. Gonda Act shall be imposed on t molestors.
This incident too was on expected lines, especially when it comes to perpetrators. Looks like Goonda Act should teach these people a few lessons in life.


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