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Thakur_B wrote:
Cyrano wrote:Potassium nitrate, sulphur etc are also found in chem labs of all types of high schools and colleges, where there is no accounting of stocks.
School labs require a couple of kilos at best in an year. The sellers are required to keep records of sale.
Yes, but the schools are not, and who ever goes and audits labs in minority institutions? The modus operandi apparently was to collect small quantities over a couple of years. Very much doable in many ways, this could also be one.
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What about anti girl H2S gas making apparatus Heinji. This three bulb apparatus used to sit outside lab.If used properly it can empty whole market within 5 min. It as smell bomb.
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coimbatore blast

Probe reveals Coimbatore car bomb blast was a suicide attack

The accused carried out recce of Koniamman temple (L) and Mundhi Vinayagar temple in Coimbatore


http://toi.in/aRoZjb/a24gk

at least three national newspapers are reporting that it was because the suicide bomber was upset by the hijab controversy

our enemies are all at home onlee, and this is what happens when the Indian media is foreign owned by puppet masters from offshore locales
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linkages to the SL easter blasts are emerging


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBVafR8b58o



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After Coimbatore, was Kerala the next target?

How successful is the PFI ban?







00:00 – Intro
02:11 - What is happening in Kerala after PFI ban?
05:58 – List of places blast were planned
09:38 – History of 3 decades of Islamic fundamentalism in Kerala
18:12 – NIA seized documents which discloses big thing was planned in Kerala
23:21 – Guruvayura Temple
30:06 – Police personnel leaked database of RSS persons in Kerala
37:12 – Why banning PFI is insufficient?
42:24 – Kerala CM asked police personnel to handle PFI members softly
47:46 – Beef ban controversy of Kerala
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Cyrano wrote:Potassium nitrate, sulphur etc are also found in chem labs of all types of high schools and colleges, where there is no accounting of stocks.
You must be kidding to give such an excuse for a suicide bomber.
TN police DGP Cylindera Babu would like you to join his special squad.
He famously said gas leak caused the explosion.
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Chetak there were reports of a TN module at the time of Easter day bombing.
SL thread had such info.
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ramana wrote:Chetak there were reports of a TN module at the time of Easter day bombing.
Some references. All from year 2019.
Months after Sri Lanka Easter Day blasts, NIA busts IS cell
Tamil Nadu: NIA conducts raids over suspected links with Sri Lanka church attackers
Sri Lanka’s Easter bombings have Indian links & pose a serious security threat
chetak wrote:After Coimbatore, was Kerala the next target?
30:06 – Police personnel leaked database of RSS persons in Kerala
37:12 – Why banning PFI is insufficient?
42:24 – Kerala CM asked police personnel to handle PFI members softly
The first event in this list happened way before the Coimbatore blasts. There were at least two events in which K.P police men shared information about RSS and even their own Hindu religious colleagues to PFI. The news that in K.P there existed a WhatsApp group "Pacha Velicham" (green light) for the Islamist fanatics was out in the open at least 2-3 years back. And it was also an open secret that the commies in KL (CPI(M) & CPI) are NOT in a position to down right push away from any Islamist organisation even be it PFI or SDPI.

When we say banning of PFI is insufficient, we also should know what are the other possibilities. Off course stuff like rampant encounter killings etc cannot happen even though many may wish for it. What can be legally done would be to choke the fundings and elso ensure that the top leadership is behind bars for quite some time. If Abdul Nasser Maudhani can be kept in Coimbatore prison as a remand prisoner for 9 years (!) and then subsequently forced to move to Bangalore and be out on bail there; all using existing Indian laws, the same could be done for PFI gangs as well.
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Sachin wrote:
ramana wrote:Chetak there were reports of a TN module at the time of Easter day bombing.
Some references. All from year 2019.
Months after Sri Lanka Easter Day blasts, NIA busts IS cell
Tamil Nadu: NIA conducts raids over suspected links with Sri Lanka church attackers
Sri Lanka’s Easter bombings have Indian links & pose a serious security threat
chetak wrote:After Coimbatore, was Kerala the next target?
30:06 – Police personnel leaked database of RSS persons in Kerala
37:12 – Why banning PFI is insufficient?
42:24 – Kerala CM asked police personnel to handle PFI members softly
The first event in this list happened way before the Coimbatore blasts. There were at least two events in which K.P police men shared information about RSS and even their own Hindu religious colleagues to PFI. The news that in K.P there existed a WhatsApp group "Pacha Velicham" (green light) for the Islamist fanatics was out in the open at least 2-3 years back. And it was also an open secret that the commies in KL (CPI(M) & CPI) are NOT in a position to down right push away from any Islamist organisation even be it PFI or SDPI.

When we say banning of PFI is insufficient, we also should know what are the other possibilities. Off course stuff like rampant encounter killings etc cannot happen even though many may wish for it. What can be legally done would be to choke the fundings and elso ensure that the top leadership is behind bars for quite some time. If Abdul Nasser Maudhani can be kept in Coimbatore prison as a remand prisoner for 9 years (!) and then subsequently forced to move to Bangalore and be out on bail there; all using existing Indian laws, the same could be done for PFI gangs as well.
after the so called ban, the PFI have all moved to the SDPI now.
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Not all. Most leaders are in jail. And SDPI is watched carefully - the Govt has not foreclosed the possibility of banning SDPI too.

Here is where the concept of "designated terrorist" kicks in. If a person is declared so, he is on target whichever organization he joins. And by extension, the organization can also be banned.

Banning PFI was a great move by Amit Shah, who has received justifiable flak for his CAA, Farmer agitation etc botch up. It was done with NIA collecting a lot of background evidence before the ax fell
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chetak, I did visit the Kochi area recently.
What I noted was there is a strong Hindu sense but they are in fear of PFI.
By banning PFI, NIA can operate in Kerala without Pinnaryi Vijayan's permission.
Secondly, SDPI is a political party and it's up to ECI to do due diligence.
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ramana wrote:chetak, I did visit the Kochi area recently.
What I noted was there is a strong Hindu sense but they are in fear of PFI.
By banning PFI, NIA can operate in Kerala without Pinnaryi Vijayan's permission.
Secondly, SDPI is a political party and it's up to ECI to do due diligence.
That is exactly what the jehadis are banking upon and also why they created this entity in the first place....

The pfi cadres have moved to the SDPI, (where else would they go...) and here they can be sustained in various material ways, kept motivated and are also readily available for deployment.

These are the cadres that lull the aam aadmi by taking part in "social" activities, protest marches in support of "just" causes and also provide muscle on demand and they extort "donations" for organizing various "camps". They also dominate campus politics in KER using violence, love jehad tactics with the active help of their commie pals who are currently in power and are also actively biasing a pliant judiciary.

The leadership of one is covert, and that of the other is overt but both their ideologies are unwaveringly identical and spring from the very same sources, funded by the same BIF entities which for now is primarily the islamic state khorasan province (ISKP) operating through hawala channels emanating from the various "gelf" based support structures and many FFNGOs set up for this very purpose.

Do not be under the mistaken impression that the PFI has been nullified by the arrest of a few of its "leaders". Many low profile tier two/three ringleaders have merely gone underground. Even with tier one leaders, the orders mostly came from the ISIS. The tier two/three netas would have already splintered into sleeper cells and also spawned many lone wolves.

It is the foolish Hindu vote that sustains the commies in power and they in turn act as enablers for the domination as well as the rise of the jehadis.

In KER, the abrahamics are well organized, extremely well funded and form tight cohesive units in the political, economic and educational spheres resulting in their controlling vast financial resources as well as job generation avenues and as a result, they have ended up dominating the deep state. Yes, there are some inter denominational clergy rivalry (mostly property related) among the various flocks but they will all pull together when needed to take on the pagans.

"Govt unki hai par system humara hai" is a lesson that the KER abrahamics have learned well from the congis and now they practise this dictum far better than the congis ever did

The foolish Hindus are neither well organized, they are ill funded and wilfully do not form cohesive units in the political, economic and educational spheres.

Sadly, the Hindus don't seem to have the will to rejuvenate after centuries of invasions and oppression and nor have they seriously attempted to do so, riven as they are, by deliberately induced, divisive vote bank concerns of caste, community, and biradari.

They are the sheep being led to slaughter by the abrahamic wolves and over the decades, their numerical/demographic advantages have been neatly finessed and effectively nullified by the commies.

Genetically, historically, and societally, the Hindus, unlike the jews, lack the collective cultural and civilizational sense of "shatrubodh".

As a people who are the inheritors of the civilizational continuity and heritage of past several millennia, the idea of self preservation and survival instinct seems to have been somehow lulled out of their collective psyches, leaving them to the tender mercies of the predatory abrahamics.

During partition, a section of the political ecosystem shifted to another civilizational narrative that was long planned and slyly implemented by the britshits, aided, abetted and actively nurtured by the ever pliable commies, using academia, media and hijacked governmental resources.

The commies, along with the emboldened abrahamics, helped to negate the very idea of an ancien Indian civilizational state and malevolently created an overton window that has been steadily expanding ever since to embed and emphasize a new narrative that showed the abrahamics as the very soul and progenitors and even the primogenitures of the Indian civilizational state.
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chetak wrote:after the so called ban, the PFI have all moved to the SDPI now.
Prem Kumar wrote:Most leaders are in jail. And SDPI is watched carefully - the Govt has not foreclosed the possibility of banning SDPI too.
ramana wrote:Secondly, SDPI is a political party and it's up to ECI to do due diligence.
In a way that is good. SDPI is a political outfit so will have to main roster of members etc. Secondly, if their members (ex-PFI-wallahs) create problems the party leadership also can be forced to take action. And many of the 'social schemes' of SDPI would make it directly face the commies (CPI(M) & CPI) who also eye the same vote banks/groups. SDPI should be allowed to have a tango with the commies. PFI leadership is now in jail - that too in jails in North India - and the way the case is going they are not going to come out any time soon. Even bail pleas have not been taken up. Fundings also would soon dry up, and if it gets routed via SDPI that too would be tracked down.
ramana wrote:What I noted was there is a strong Hindu sense but they are in fear of PFI.
If you check Kerala history it is very rare that the Hindu community have actually picked up a fight with others, without any support from government of the day. Every Hindu these days are pretty much aware of the threat; but still deep in the heart expects government to mitigate the threat. The secular parties also know this and that is why they pamper towards RoP (and then RoL). Even during 1921 Moplah riots the Hindu community could not put up an organized resistance. Finally British raised the Malabar Special Police (with majority Hindus) and quelled the riot. In the 1912-1914 time period there was a riot between X'ians and Hindus in Thrissur town, which was part of Kochi kingdom. Guess what the Hindus did. They brought in large number of Muslims from Malabar district as a paid goon force to deal with X'ians ;). This kind of "outsourcing" mentality is still prevalent.
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covai/coimbatore blast

there should be absolutely no doubt in anyone's mind as to what transpired in covai/coimbatore

‘In IS style, mubeen shaved his body before mission’


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https://twitter.com/woko_haraam/status/ ... 203WQ&s=19

"Tamil Nadu: ‘In IS style, Mubeen shaved his body before mission’"
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2 conversion centres in Kerala converted 5,793 people to Islam in 2011-2015

4,719 Hindus & 1,074 Christian converted

Half of those who converted are women & majority of women (76%) are below 35 years



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Tamilnadu Police Intelligence department has been taken over by anti-Hindu Christian bigots

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chetak wrote:2 conversion centres in Kerala converted 5,793 people to Islam in 2011-2015

4,719 Hindus & 1,074 Christian converted

Half of those who converted are women & majority of women (76%) are below 35 years



[img...]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgulSt4aEAI ... name=small[/img]
Small numbers. Unofficially would they be 10x?
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^ I am seeing many cases of immature / clueless Hindu women casually eloping with Muslims, and returning to parents' home after two years, carrying a baby in hand, because the momin started misbehaving or began affair on the side with another gullible Hindu girl. The momen's interest in Hindu woman fades after making her pregnant.
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sanjayc wrote:^ I am seeing many cases of immature / clueless Hindu women casually eloping with Muslims, and returning to parents' home after two years, carrying a baby in hand, because the momin started misbehaving or began affair on the side with another gullible Hindu girl. The momen's interest in Hindu woman fades after making her pregnant.
with pregnancy, the momin's mission is complete.

essential paraphernalia for the entrapment is funded by the community, viz jazzy clothes, bike, money for flashy lifestyle, false Hindu identity papers etc

the kid will have to be brought up as a malsi at no cost to them or knife and acid attacks will usually follow.

the next mission awaits, then the next, and so on. The lumpsum payment for completion of the (first and subsequent) missions is substantial and also graded, depending on caste, community etc of the target...
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:shock:
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Grooming gangs in the UK, though loathsome, don't have the demographic impact that Love Jihad has in India. Grooming gangs don't increase the Islamic flock because of widespread use of contraception in the West. Plus there is no social taboo if someone had an affair with a Paki (though of course, r@pes are also rampant in grooming gangs and leave a horrible scar on the victim and their families)

In India though, because of societal taboos, a girl trapped in love jihad is stuck. Its hard for her birth family to welcome her back. And there is the threat of apostasy-murder by the Muslim family. In most cases, she becomes a baby-producing machine to further jihad.
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Lt Gen. KJS "Tiny" Dhillon's latest book "Kitne Ghazi aaye, Kitne Ghazi Gaye" is coming out in January 2023.

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Just read a news from Kerala ...after Election Commission's Aadhar linking and finding duplicate entries...3.13 lakh voters less in Kerala


https://www.manoramaonline.com/news/ker ... nking.html
ആധാർ ബന്ധിപ്പിക്കൽ: 3.13 ലക്ഷം വോട്ടർമാർ കുറഞ്ഞു; പട്ടികയിലെ ഇരട്ടിപ്പുകൾ കണ്ടെത്തി നീക്കി മനോരമ ലേഖ...

unfortunately the actual news article is in malayalam

Maybe some kind soul could translate the essentials for us unpad gawars
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Thanks, Rupesh ji

so basically, about three odd lakhs were double dipping in the local and national elections.

bound to be much larger numbers in TN and AP.
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Lt Gen KJS Dhillon, Chinar Corps Commander in Kashmir during Pulwama and Abrogation of Article 370 has penned a book which tells the first hand story right from childhood, military training, regimental life, family life of a soldier to the Kashmiri Pandits’ exodus to the Abrogation of Article 370 in his own version as he saw it.
The book contains much more than it promises.
A must read to get the correct unbiased perspective of Kashmir issue.


Author signed copy pre orders are now open
Kitne Ghazi Aaye, Kitne Ghazi Gaye: My Life Story
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Along the lines of 'Every sinner has a future'..

HC spares 4 Lashkar terrorists death, sentences them to 10-year jail
The Calcutta high court on Monday acquitted four Lashkar-e-Tayiba terrorists, including two Pakistani nationals, who were awarded capital punishment for waging war against the country, while sentencing them for other offences.

All the four were found guilty of "conspiracy" to wage war against the government of India and sentenced to 10 years rigorous imprisonment.

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The court said that since an offence under section 121A IPC deals with conspiracy to wage war or overawe the sovereign authority of a democratically elected government by show of criminal force, it is a grave one and "involves indoctrinated members of a terrorist organisation whose purpose is to strike terror and destabilise the nation."

Holding that the appellants are not men who were in the higher echelons of the terrorist organisation, the court observed that they are foot soldiers who were recruited through allurement or coercion for the activities of the organisation.

The court said that mitigating circumstances show the appellants are not prominent players in the organisation and there is little possibility of their reverting to the path of terrorism.
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Which is why all of them must be encountered, Hyderabad Police style.

Someone posted on Twitter that if Sivarasan was not dumb, he'd not have swallowed cyanide but would have allowed himself to be arrested. Today, he'd have been released. DMK would celebrate it with firecrackers and Stalin will give him a seat to contest as MLA
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Prem Kumar wrote:Which is why all of them must be encountered, Hyderabad Police style....
So that their career & future (alongwith their families) gets screwed up??

SC panel says book 10 cops for killing 4 accused in Hyderabad rape & murder
THE JUSTICE V S Sirpurkar Commission, set up by the Supreme Court to probe the killing in an alleged encounter of four accused in the gangrape and murder of a veterinarian on the outskirts of Hyderabad in 2019, has submitted a report stating that it believes the police deliberately fired on the accused “with an intent to cause their death” — and recommended action against ten police officers and personnel under various charges, including murder.
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Yes, I know

We always have the option of wringing our hands and griping on Twitter and BRF
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Manish_P wrote:
Prem Kumar wrote:Which is why all of them must be encountered, Hyderabad Police style....
So that their career & future (alongwith their families) gets screwed up??

SC panel says book 10 cops for killing 4 accused in Hyderabad rape & murder
THE JUSTICE V S Sirpurkar Commission, set up by the Supreme Court to probe the killing in an alleged encounter of four accused in the gangrape and murder of a veterinarian on the outskirts of Hyderabad in 2019, has submitted a report stating that it believes the police deliberately fired on the accused “with an intent to cause their death” — and recommended action against ten police officers and personnel under various charges, including murder.
I don't think there is much to it. I mean, here is a matter that Supreme Court thought fit to take up. It appoints a Commission headed by a retired Supreme Court judge. It should have taken it to it's logical conclusion. But instead it kicked the 'can' both figuratively and literally, 'down the road'. Even if the case results in conviction the affected parties have the right of appeal before, yes, the Supreme Court!
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Manish_P wrote:Along the lines of 'Every sinner has a future'..

HC spares 4 Lashkar terrorists death, sentences them to 10-year jail

The court said that mitigating circumstances show the appellants are not prominent players in the organisation and there is little possibility of their reverting to the path of terrorism.
For the great social service by the learned judge, the gobermint should replace his security and appoint these men for life for his family. Afterall these peepuls needs to be gainfully employed as well na.
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There is report of explosion on Udaipur- ahmedabad railway line. this was a new railway line inaugurated just about 15 days ago by the Prime Minister.
Luckily there were cracks on the rail line and locals seemed to have alerted the police who stopped the subsequent trains. The NIA also is involved and early reports seem to indicate explosives used from mining. The tracks were damaged, but not completely blown up.

Is it also a shanti dooth inspired PFI plot or just a contractor who didn't get the bid acting out of jealousy?

I can only think of the press, had any accident taken place, with the usual headlines talking about the quality of work being done and since lie travels quicker than truth can put on shoes, a good set of people would be try to be convinced with the initial reports and only try to build from there.

https://www.opindia.com/2022/11/rajasth ... k-damaged/
https://indianexpress.com/article/india ... t-8266511/
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Rony wrote:Tamilnadu Police Intelligence department has been taken over by anti-Hindu Christian bigots

Every year in England a TV series is shown it is called "The Vietnam War" a 10 part series.
It is just so sad, an unnecessary, pointless war.
The reason I post this is because the French & Americans colonised the country by converting the nobility to xtianity, then they converted the power structure, police officers/constables, army officers, teachers, civil service.
An individual could only join any govt dept/service if they were xtian.
The same has happened in South korea.

The order to persecute the Buddhists in Sth Vietnam, as given by President Diems brother who was a cardinal in the catholic church, while he was actually physically in the vatican on a visit, by phone call !!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_ ... 0crisis%20(Vietnamese%3A%20Bi%E1%BA%BFn,led%20mainly%20by%20Buddhist%20monks.
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nandakumar wrote:...
I don't think there is much to it. I mean, here is a matter that Supreme Court thought fit to take up. It appoints a Commission headed by a retired Supreme Court judge. It should have taken it to it's logical conclusion. But instead it kicked the 'can' both figuratively and literally, 'down the road'. Even if the case results in conviction the affected parties have the right of appeal before, yes, the Supreme Court!
Yes.. get the cops tied up and busy in fighting legal matters rather than criminals. The rest of the force will get the message that it is better for them to play safe administratively and not to be proactive.
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Haresh wrote:
The order to persecute the Buddhists in Sth Vietnam, as given by President Diems brother who was a cardinal in the catholic church, while he was actually physically in the vatican on a visit, by phone call !!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_ ... 0crisis%20(Vietnamese%3A%20Bi%E1%BA%BFn,led%20mainly%20by%20Buddhist%20monks.
This is exactly what has been happening and is happening to a certain extent in some parts of India. Many in the system are not even aware of how they are being used for Western plans. But this has no overnight solution, it takes time to build economies, housing, living standards, Defense production, have your ecosystems in place before we can reduce Eco sytem influences.
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Aditya_V wrote: This is exactly what has been happening and is happening to a certain extent in some parts of India. Many in the system are not even aware of how they are being used for Western plans. But this has no overnight solution, it takes time to build economies, housing, living standards, Defense production, have your ecosystems in place before we can reduce Eco sytem influences.
This is what happened in Sth Vietnam, and it will happen in India, where these converts hold sway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hu%E1%BA% ... _shootings

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"prohibit the display of religious flags. This disallowed the flying of Buddhist flags on Phật Đản, the birthday of Gautama Buddha. The invoking official was the deputy province chief in charge of security, Major Đặng Sỹ, a Catholic who was charged with maintaining public security and was commander of the Huế garrison. The application of the law caused indignation among Buddhists on the eve of the most important religious festival of the year, since a week earlier Catholics had been allowed to display Vatican flags to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the appointment of Diệm's brother Thục as Archbishop of Huế. The celebrations had been bankrolled by Diệm's regime through a national committee which asked the population to donate money to Thục's jubilee. Buddhists complained that they had been forced to give a month's wages to pay for the celebration."
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Indian fugitive preacher Zakir Naik in Qatar to give talks during World Cup: Reports
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Mean while at Mangalore & Mysore...
Mangaluru autorickshaw blast not ‘accidental’ but ‘act of terror’, says Karnataka DGP
Mangaluru blast suspect identified, accused was previously booked under UAPA
Mangaluru auto rickshaw blast: How the plot unravelled
Accused of Mangaluru cooker blast stayed in Mysuru

What is surprising is that both in Coimbatore & Mangalore the blasts were a case of premature ejaculation 8). It was low intensity blasts, with no major injuries to innocents. So don't know if these are all poor shows by amateurs, or these explosions are just kind of small games to prove that banning of PFI etc is not working.
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