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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Supratik » 02 Sep 2019 20:30

Arjun, national NRC will come in 2-3 years but they need to fix the system first as it clearly was bypassed in Assam. Anyone looking at the demographic data can tell that M pop cannot go from 25% to 35% without illegal immigration. Even 7% extra means 2 million illegal Ms which is near what was caught in July 2018. But they have somehow managed to manipulate the system and gain entry in 2019.

As for what happens to illegals there are enough pressure points to force them to go back to Bdesh.

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Postby Supratik » 02 Sep 2019 20:35

The left-lib rudaalis were saying Art 370 and 35A cannot be removed without 2/3rd majority in both houses of parliament. We know what happened to that. They are saying illegals cannot be deported. When the time comes they will be deported directly or indirectly but first fix the incorrect NRC.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Supratik » 02 Sep 2019 20:39

I am not sure why the BJP wants to go back to the SC. They are always looking for nannies to change their diapers. Their underwears were looted in the NRC Assam updation process and they had no clue. Citizen register updation is an executive decision. Why do you need to go the SC for Gods sake?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby ArjunPandit » 02 Sep 2019 20:41

Supratik wrote:Arjun, national NRC will come in 2-3 years but they need to fix the system first as it clearly was bypassed in Assam. Anyone looking at the demographic data can tell that M pop cannot go from 25% to 35% without illegal immigration. Even 7% extra means 2 million illegal Ms which is near what was caught in July 2018. But they have somehow managed to manipulate the system and gain entry in 2019.

As for what happens to illegals there are enough pressure points to force them to go back to Bdesh.

spot on sup ji..such is the rot in system..if you've been in delhi you'd remember that in 80-90s the slums were established across delhi as voting bases ..it is no one's guess which community was over represented in these slums and where were they coming from..they got their voting ids and everything over time..the community easily forgave the leaders for the neutering exercise by sanjay gandhi...

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby ArjunPandit » 02 Sep 2019 20:41

Supratik wrote:The left-lib rudaalis were saying Art 370 and 35A cannot be removed without 2/3rd majority in both houses of parliament. We know what happened to that. They are saying illegals cannot be deported. When the time comes they will be deported directly or indirectly but first fix the incorrect NRC.

more power to you..i think it might be better to have a land swap.. esp around chicken's neck..

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby chetak » 02 Sep 2019 20:52

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From friend in Assam
NRC On-Ground

19 Lakh Excluded-13 Lakh Hindus, 6 lakh Muslims
11 Lakh Bengali Hindus, 2 Lakh Others

NRC proved to be massively Anti-Hindu. Media avoiding details

Badruddin Ajmal & AIUDF did massive ground work to keep Muslim exclusion minimal

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby chetak » 02 Sep 2019 21:00

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Understand! That’s why there is no hue and cry in media circle

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Supratik » 02 Sep 2019 21:06

The Assam NRC has been fudged. The BJP has no clue what they are up against. There is one word for it - incompetence.

https://swarajyamag.com/politics/assam- ... oral-rolls

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby chetak » 03 Sep 2019 14:43

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Simply horrific.

The illegal Bangladeshi infiltrator has gained the most from the NRC.

Most of those excluded are Hindus.

When BJP attempted to correct the deliberately flawed NRC process, the Supreme Court ordered it to keep away from the exercise!

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby schinnas » 03 Sep 2019 15:08

chetak wrote:twitter


Simply horrific.

The illegal Bangladeshi infiltrator has gained the most from the NRC.

Most of those excluded are Hindus.

When BJP attempted to correct the deliberately flawed NRC process, the Supreme Court ordered it to keep away from the exercise!


No excuse. BJP sarkar came up with the NRC process.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Sachin » 03 Sep 2019 16:36

Supratik wrote:The Assam NRC has been fudged. The BJP has no clue what they are up against. There is one word for it - incompetence.

schinnas wrote:No excuse. BJP sarkar came up with the NRC process.

Even if the NRC was a court-initiated excercise was BJP so clue less to NOT see in which direction things are going? Are they totally clueless and don't even have some moles in the government machinery of Assam? Looks like the BJP leadership assumed that peacefools from Bangladesh would just roll over & die. Fat chance, these fellows are so good in record keeping that they even manage to get passports for places like Bangalore (and also routinely get caught at BIAL as well).

The Citizenship Amendment bill may be the only way for BJP to weasel out of this. And the peacefools would go laughing to town because they played such a game that using Hindus, they also managed to stay back in India (and perhaps continue with their Jehadi activities).

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Aditya_V » 03 Sep 2019 18:25

But now you a record and a dam . Its impossible to reverse history. If this was done in 1970 the we would not be in this situation today. Plus some peaceful would have gone back to Bangladesh , WB. You need to start somewhere, this is a beginning and with Aadhaar and other data you can computerize records, make marriage registrations and birth certificates etc compulsory. Before we were completely nangarhar and BIF was implementing a post Hindu Nort East India before moving to other areas

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby yensoy » 03 Sep 2019 18:46

And all the demonetized money returned (although I still have a few old notes kept by my kid in her piggy bank).

Such is life, but as rightly pointed out by Adityaji, it's a line in the sand. Even if it were determined that 20M people, say all muslims, didn't have the right documentation, it would be impossible to push them back into Bangladesh or anywhere. For the Assamese who initiated the NRC, it was more to do with residence in Assam than citizenship.

We need to keep in mind that the situation in Bangladesh/Assam was due to the genocide and economic strangulation perpetrated by West Pakistan, and its after effects which lasted 20+ years. This should be tallied up and any reparations or land grabs into Paki territory (as we hope will eventually happen) should make provision for these.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby SRoy » 04 Sep 2019 05:58

Assam NRC exercise was nothing to do with weeding out infiltrators.
It was ethnic Ahoms against everybody else.

And the result shows.

It beggars belief, as how exactly Ahoms (13th century entrants to the area) have greater claims to domicile against other ethno-lingual population that are around there since millenniums.

It easy to delude ourselves with conspiracy theories such as entrenched Congi bureaucracy has sabotaged the process. There is no such thing. It is the local Ahom bureaucracy that has done this.

As someone has said above Citizenship Amendment bill is the only way out of this mess.

Sooner the better.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Sachin » 04 Sep 2019 10:40

SRoy wrote:It was ethnic Ahoms against everybody else.
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It beggars belief, as how exactly Ahoms (13th century entrants to the area) have greater claims to domicile against other ethno-lingual population that are around there since millenniums.
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It is the local Ahom bureaucracy that has done this.

Why do you think BJP could not figure out this? Is it that even the top leadership of the party (and other parties as well) are from the same community? And secondly; if Ahoms did the mischief how & why they only targetted Hindus and not Muslims (from Bangladesh)?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby chetak » 04 Sep 2019 12:24

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China not only holds a million Muslims in concentration camps but also is engaged in systematic torture, including of women detainees. Its goal is fundamental — to erase the identity of Muslims, who, it says, were forcibly converted by Islamic invaders.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby SRoy » 04 Sep 2019 19:17

Sachin wrote:
SRoy wrote:It was ethnic Ahoms against everybody else.
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It beggars belief, as how exactly Ahoms (13th century entrants to the area) have greater claims to domicile against other ethno-lingual population that are around there since millenniums.
....
It is the local Ahom bureaucracy that has done this.

Why do you think BJP could not figure out this? Is it that even the top leadership of the party (and other parties as well) are from the same community? And secondly; if Ahoms did the mischief how & why they only targetted Hindus and not Muslims (from Bangladesh)?


Ask this question to BJP top brass. Why me?

Sachin, do read up more on the ethnic fault lines in Assam.

"if Ahoms did the mischief how & why they only targetted Hindus and not Muslims (from Bangladesh)"

FWIW, all Muslims there are not from Bangladesh. The reported figure shows 13 Lakh Hindus and 6 Lakh Muslims. Are you making up the "not Muslims" part?

Prima facie looks like well within population ratios for Hindu - Muslim percentages.
In addition to that, infiltrators have been diligent with documentation ... thanks to vote bank politics.

Target were all non-Assamese ... Bengali, Hindi and Nepali speaking (just examples). Read up news items. As many as 1 Lakh Gurkhas have found themselves out of the list. They are neither Bengali nor Muslim, therefore not a slender possibility of them being from Bangladesh.

Very fundamental question.

Is the NRC exercise for determining the citizenship or domicile specific to a state?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby rrao » 04 Sep 2019 20:18

Day before yesterday there was explosion in a chemical factory in Maharashtra!!! 19 killed. Yesterday there was a fire at ONGC ,Mumbai...4 persons were killed...Today in Punjab, 10 killed in an explosion in cracker factory!!!!sleepers cells have been activated to sabotage!!! Three consecutive days ,three explosions..cant be a coincidence... drop a timed IED and keep near inflammable items by casual contractors put on the job by sleeper modules . On Sept 7th ,there could be some untoward incident ,which may divert world attention to Kashmir from C2 glory!!! Reminds me of serial planned blasts!!! :evil: Just my guess!!

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Sonugn » 04 Sep 2019 20:39

Some days back a Sat call was traced to Barre in Uttara Kannada. A team was sent to investigate. They did not report back. Another team was sent which also had issues in communication it seems. However as per news reports all the teams have now returned back. Interesting thing is that this place (where the call was traced to) is equidistant to Kaiga plant & INS Vajrakosh (related to Karwar base)

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby williams » 04 Sep 2019 21:13

rrao wrote:Day before yesterday there was explosion in a chemical factory in Maharashtra!!! 19 killed. Yesterday there was a fire at ONGC ,Mumbai...4 persons were killed...Today in Punjab, 10 killed in an explosion in cracker factory!!!!sleepers cells have been activated to sabotage!!! Three consecutive days ,three explosions..cant be a coincidence... drop a timed IED and keep near inflammable items by casual contractors put on the job by sleeper modules . On Sept 7th ,there could be some untoward incident ,which may divert world attention to Kashmir from C2 glory!!! Reminds me of serial planned blasts!!! :evil: Just my guess!!


I don't think we can conclude these as sleeper cell sabotage until the investigations prove it. In a large country like India, accidents will happen and each of such accidents should help the private and govt enterprise to update safety regulation and standards.

I think we give too much credit to Pakis in maintaining such sleeper cells and very less credit to our law enforcement capability to identify, neutralize and deter such activities.

The last thing we want is to feed into a public paranoia and make our enemy much bigger. Pakis have some capability and they have the wet dream to mobilize Indian Muslims. Our govt and our security forces both internal and external have enough capability to thwart them. Indian Muslims (by and large) have not responded to such Paki wet dreams even in the height of luytens "Hindu Nationalist" propaganda.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby williams » 04 Sep 2019 21:38

Sachin wrote:
Supratik wrote:The Assam NRC has been fudged. The BJP has no clue what they are up against. There is one word for it - incompetence.

schinnas wrote:No excuse. BJP sarkar came up with the NRC process.

Even if the NRC was a court-initiated excercise was BJP so clue less to NOT see in which direction things are going? Are they totally clueless and don't even have some moles in the government machinery of Assam? Looks like the BJP leadership assumed that peacefools from Bangladesh would just roll over & die. Fat chance, these fellows are so good in record keeping that they even manage to get passports for places like Bangalore (and also routinely get caught at BIAL as well).

The Citizenship Amendment bill may be the only way for BJP to weasel out of this. And the peacefools would go laughing to town because they played such a game that using Hindus, they also managed to stay back in India (and perhaps continue with their Jehadi activities).


This whole NRC fiasco is riddled with holes from the start.

1. You cannot achieve much when a process that was initiated in 1955 need to be restarted in 2016.
2. BJP govt both in the center and in the state did not clearly spell out what they are going to do with the illegal immigrants.
3. Our record-keeping and managing are marred with corruption at every level, so it is not that hard to manipulate records.
4. My gut feel is India will not deport these people and Bangladesh is not going to agree to take them when they themselves cannot feed their population.

Bottom line India is not China or Pakistan to do anything inhuman. Heck, we even give a respectable burial to our enemies. We are dharmic and we cannot change. We are so sensitive to the dharmic traditions that our enemies have used it and made us defend it at all cost.

1. The best future course of action will be to strengthen our borders to make sure there is no more illegal immigration.
2. Provide some sort of residency status to those who have illegally migrated but with no criminal records and deport the ones with criminal records.
3. Have a documentation system that can eliminate corruption.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Supratik » 04 Sep 2019 21:57

We have to first understand the level of "mistake" they are claiming. They are claiming they made a mistake of 2.2 million people from the 2018 data. One can understand a mistake of 1-2 lakh in such a big process. This means that these 2.2 million people have done something in the last 1 year which has suddenly made them legitimate. It points to fraud on large scale IMO.

Since the biometrics data of these 4.1 million people have been taken it is best to take the entire data along with documents submitted and the 1971 electoral rolls plus 1951 NRC data outside the state and re-verify in some other state.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Supratik » 04 Sep 2019 22:28

The data also have other pointers why I believe it is likely to be fraud. When the original data came out in 2018 of the 4 million excluded almost all news report claimed that the distribution was roughly 1 million Bengali Hindus and 3 million Bengali Muslims. In fact Himanta said something similar.
Miraculously we find in 2019 that all the Bengali Hindu cases are genuine illegals while almost 80% of Bengali Muslim cases are mistakes. This again points toward fraud.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Supratik » 04 Sep 2019 23:24

BJP is asking for re-verification of NRC (20%) to the SC. This is not going to help as those who committed the fraud are sitting in Assam. Data has to be sent outside the state.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Supratik » 05 Sep 2019 00:24

Times Now report on how the NRC Assam fraud was committed.

https://youtu.be/6pI5leGNbX8

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Abhibhushan » 05 Sep 2019 14:12

Republic TV reports a major blast in Tarantaran

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Re: Internal Security Watch

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karan sirji... yeh buddah ko maaf karna!! :)
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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby A_Gupta » 05 Sep 2019 20:35

Abhibhushan wrote:Republic TV reports a major blast in Tarantaran


https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/t ... 2019-09-05
Punjab: Two killed in Tarn Taran in blast in agricultural field
Two people were killed and one got grievous injuries in a blast in an agricultural field in Tarn Taran district of Punjab on early Thursday
Two people were killed and one received grievous injuries in a blast in an agricultural field in Tarn Taran district of Punjab on early Thursday, police said.

They were digging the ground in Pandori Gola village when the blast occurred, a police official told IANS.

All the victims were locals and the injured was admitted to a nearby hospital.

The cause of the blast is yet to be ascertained, said the official.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby VikramA » 05 Sep 2019 20:37

^^^ might be a old mine

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby chetak » 05 Sep 2019 21:31

yensoy wrote:And all the demonetized money returned (although I still have a few old notes kept by my kid in her piggy bank).

Such is life, but as rightly pointed out by Adityaji, it's a line in the sand. Even if it were determined that 20M people, say all muslims, didn't have the right documentation, it would be impossible to push them back into Bangladesh or anywhere. For the Assamese who initiated the NRC, it was more to do with residence in Assam than citizenship.

We need to keep in mind that the situation in Bangladesh/Assam was due to the genocide and economic strangulation perpetrated by West Pakistan, and its after effects which lasted 20+ years. This should be tallied up and any reparations or land grabs into Paki territory (as we hope will eventually happen) should make provision for these.


the ISI has always had a big hand in pushing illegal beedis into India. The demographic change has always been their vision for his part of India post 1971, and it is seen by the pakis as revenge for beediland liberation.

It suited the congis and the commies because they got a huge vote bank to push through the agendas in assam as well as bengal.

With all that was going on, the BJP simply forgot about the NRC until it was too late.

This (non)action by omission of the BJP is as antinational as it can get. They took their eye off the ball at the most crucial juncture.

RSS to ask for reintroduction of Citizenship Amendment Bill


RSS to ask for reintroduction of Citizenship Amendment Bill


Sep 04, 2019

GUWAHATI: The Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh will ask the Modi government to reintroduce the Citizenship Amendment Bill by December. The move follows the discovery that the National Register of Citizens does not have names of 1,906,657 people, a majority of whom are believed to be Hindus.

“We have been saying that NRC will not bear results and Assam will not be free of foreigners. The final NRC has proved this right. A large number of Hindus and other local communities have been excluded from NRC. We will insist that the Centre reintroduce the Citizenship Amendment Bill by December, immediately after the appeal at the foreigners’ tribunal is completed. This NRC cannot be final,” said a senior RSS leader who did not wish to be named.

The bill meant to give Indian citizenship to refugee Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains, Parsis and Christians from Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Pakistan was shelved in February after the Lok Sabha passed it following stiff resistance from several organisations in the northeast who feared that their states would be flooded with refugees from neighbouring Bangladesh. However, BJP’s 2019 manifesto said: “We are committed to enactment of Citizenship Amendment Bill for the protection of individuals of religious minority communities from neighbouring countries escaping persecution.”

The RSS leader said several organisations would move the Supreme Court demanding 20% sample reverification of the draft NRC, published in July 2018, in districts bordering Bangladesh and 10% in other districts and “those left out after the tribunal’s verdicts can be covered in the citizenship bill”. He said several people who had filed objections did not turn up during hearing. “We will also press for an all-India NRC. Assam NRC updating will serve as a template. Finally we will have one nation, one NRC. We have also asked our volunteers to offer assistance to genuine Indian citizens,” he said.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby chetak » 05 Sep 2019 22:13

X posted from the Strategic and Political Analysis thread


XThe Life and Crimes of Amnesty International: Its links to Radical Islam and British government


The Life and Crimes of Amnesty International: Its links to Radical Islam and British government

Amnesty International was also accused of having links with the Taliban.

K BHATTACHARJEE
SEPTEMBER 5, 2019

The world of NGOs is a shady mix of exploitation and corruption disguising itself underneath a pious garb of human rights and humanitarian concerns. Apart from serving as extended arms of western powers in their bid to undermine the sovereignty of other countries, NGOs are known to be riddled with numerous vices of their own. Amnesty International is one of those NGOs that have a shadowy past and have been trying desperately to meddle with the internal affairs of India. Now, they have decided to start a global campaign in defense of Jihad in Kashmir......................


Given their history of allying with radical Islamic fundamentalists, is it any surprise that Amnest has decided to side with Jihadists on the Kashmir issue? There are more problematic aspects to the way Amnesty Internation functions. In several public declarations, the NGO has said that it doesn’t take government funding. In its guidebook for volunteers, it says, “AI neither asks for nor accepts direct donations from governments.” On its website, Amnesty declares, “We neither seek nor accept any funds for human rights research from governments or political parties and we accept support only from businesses that have been carefully vetted.”

As it turns out, Amnesty International does receive funding from governments. As reported by NGO Monitor, in 2009, Amnesty received €2.5 million (approximately 1% of its donations) from governments. The British government was the third largest donor (€800,000). Amnesty also received government funding in 2008 (€1million), 2007 (€1 million), and 2006 (€2 million). Furthermore, Amnesty International received £842,000 in 2011 from the UK Department for International Development as part of a four-year award commencing in 2008 and totaling £3,149,000.


There are troubling aspects to its government funding. While it has reportedly received funds from various other governments, the UK funds appear to coincide with the period during which Amnesty was collaborating with Cage and Moazzam Begg. Begg, as we know from reports, went to Syria with permission from Mi5, the British security service. What it could possibly mean, we leave for the readers to judge. In unrelated news, Amnesty has long been suspected of being an intelligence operation of British diplomacy.

Kirsten Sellars, Visiting Fellow Institute of Advanced Legal Studies University of London, wrote in an essay on the founder of Amnesty, “During the 1960s the United Kingdom was still in the process of withdrawing from its colonies, and civil service departments such as the Colonial Office and the Foreign Office welcomed information from those familiar with human rights issues. The relationship between Amnesty and Whitehall was placed on a more solid footing in 1963, when the Foreign Office wrote to overseas missions urging “discreet support” for Amnesty: discreet, because its public endorsement would have seriously undermined the campaign’s credibility. It also explained that Amnesty would remain “independent”, in the sense that officialdom would not be responsible for its activities, “some of which might from time to time embarrass us”.


Even former National Security Advisor of the United States, Zbigniew Brzezinski, was on the Board of Directors of Amnesty for a while. Under such circumstances, it would be extremely naive to assume Amnesty is just another human rights organization.

As it so happens, a section of the British polity is protesting against the abrogation of Article 370. On Tuesday, a mob of Pakistanis led by one British MP attacked the Indian High Commission in London and damaged property. A couple of days later, Amnesty decides to launch a global campaign on Kashmir.

Thus, we see that Amnesty International has a history of allying with Radical Islam. At least in its early days, it cooperated with the British government. And in recent times, it appears to be overeager to undermine India’s sovereignty while violating our laws. Therefore, Amnesty’s stance on Kashmir is only to be expected given its extremely shady track record.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby kit » 10 Sep 2019 22:21

https://www.republicworld.com/india-news/general-news/amnesty-india-exposed-details-of-kashmir-for-profit-projects-accessed


If you thought that Amnesty India is essentially working towards upholding human rights values, then think again after Republic TV’s two-part investigation. We are calling it 'Kashmir for Profit' and there is a reason for it. Amnesty International India Pvt Ltd is a commercial entity receiving funds from Amnesty International UK for preparing pre-decided reports on Kashmir.

Documents accessed by Republic TV indicates that Amnesty India has received around Rs 5,29,87,663 from Amnesty International (UK) over the last few years to only prepare reports on Kashmir. They started off as a trust in 2010 by the name Amnesty International India Foundation Trust. But they were denied permission under FCRA, 2010 by Ministry of Home Affairs. They resorted to bypass the FCRA Act by floating a commercial entity in the name of Amnesty International India Pvt Ltd (AIIPL). Thereafter, they started receiving foreign funds through commercial route.

“The inward remittances received by AIIPL from overseas is in violation of FDI guidelines. Not just that, they were receiving funds under the garb of consultancy services,” said a top source in Enforcement Directorate.

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Amnesty India Exposed

Investigation revealed in the garb of “export of goods and services”, Amnesty India has been publishing half baked reports on Kashmir. More than 50-page document accessed by Republic TV indicates that the content of the report was pre-decided in the agreement that was signed. Take for instance, Amnesty India received around 65,000 pounds in 2015 for a report called “Denied: Access to Justice for Victims of Human Rights Violations by Security Forces in Jammu & Kashmir". Under the “Deliverables” section in the agreement, it was pre-decided as to what they would highlight in the report.

No evidence with Amnesty to prove innocence
The statement of chief operating officer Raj Kishor Kapil and Director of Amnesty India Sobha Mittal have already been recorded.

“Amnesty India has so far not been able to furnish any documentary evidence of price negotiations with their only client Amensty International, UK. Also, no details in respect of breakup of costing whatsoever have been furnished by the company. In this case substantial export advance or exorbitantly high rates is questionable,” said a top investigating officer.

“Amount to the tune of around Rs 51 crores has been received by Amnesty India towards export of services. However, no documentary proof of the export like invoices has been furnished,” added the source.

Amnesty India, however, has sought 45 days to respond to the showcause notice sent by ED.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby kit » 10 Sep 2019 22:25

Google Amnesty India, and you will get a warbled and hyped account, wonder whether they use Google analytics for "alternative facts"

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby mmasand » 12 Sep 2019 18:04

Terror plot foiled, truck laden with arms seized in J-K’s Kathua

It is believed that these suspected militants infiltrated from across the International Border via Bamyal border in Pathankot with the help of over-ground workers in Kashmir Valley.

The Jammu and Kashmir Police on Thursday foiled a major terror plot with the seizure in Lakhanpur area of Kathua district of a consignment of arms and ammunition from a Kashmir-bound truck. This is the first such recovery since Article 370, granting special status to J&K, was scrapped.

“A truck on its way to Kashmir from Punjab was checked and we found some arms and ammunition, including AK series rifles. We are still in the middle of preparing an inventory of the seizure,” said Shridhar Patil, Kathua SSP.

Patil added that three people, including the truck driver, who belong to Pulwama and Budgam districts in Kashmir, were arrested. Details will be shared once initial investigation is done, he said.

A truck was intercepted at 8.00 am on the Jammu-Pathankot Highway and during checking six AK-47 rifles were seized, Inspector General of Police, Jammu, Makesh Singh told PTI.

It is believed that these suspected militants infiltrated from across the International Border via Bamyal border in Pathankot with the help of over-ground workers in Kashmir Valley, sources said.

The Bamyal sector in Pathankot district is a favourite infiltration route of Pakistani terrorists, one that the intruders who attacked the Dinanagar police station in Gurdaspur district last July, and those who killed two policemen in the Narot Jaimal Singh area a few years ago had taken.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby ramana » 13 Sep 2019 07:00

mmasand wrote:Terror plot foiled, truck laden with arms seized in J-K’s Kathua

It is believed that these suspected militants infiltrated from across the International Border via Bamyal border in Pathankot with the help of over-ground workers in Kashmir Valley.

The Jammu and Kashmir Police on Thursday foiled a major terror plot with the seizure in Lakhanpur area of Kathua district of a consignment of arms and ammunition from a Kashmir-bound truck. This is the first such recovery since Article 370, granting special status to J&K, was scrapped.

A truck on its way to Kashmir from Punjab was checked and we found some arms and ammunition, including AK series rifles. We are still in the middle of preparing an inventory of the seizure,” said Shridhar Patil, Kathua SSP.

Patil added that three people, including the truck driver, who belong to Pulwama and Budgam districts in Kashmir, were arrested. Details will be shared once initial investigation is done, he said.

A truck was intercepted at 8.00 am on the Jammu-Pathankot Highway and during checking six AK-47 rifles were seized, Inspector General of Police, Jammu, Makesh Singh told PTI.

It is believed that these suspected militants infiltrated from across the International Border via Bamyal border in Pathankot with the help of over-ground workers in Kashmir Valley, sources said.

The Bamyal sector in Pathankot district is a favourite infiltration route of Pakistani terrorists, one that the intruders who attacked the Dinanagar police station in Gurdaspur district last July, and those who killed two policemen in the Narot Jaimal Singh area a few years ago had taken.


Question is where did the six AK-47s come from?
Across the border?
And these guys met up with the Kashmir truck driver?

Something is rotten in Punjab.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby ramana » 13 Sep 2019 07:02

Was this noted?

https://www.deccanherald.com/national/b ... 36262.html

The Navy, Coast Guard and Coastal police are maintaining a high level of surveillance off Kerala and Lakshadweep coasts following Intelligence reports that a boat carrying 15 Islamic State Terrorists had set off from Sri Lanka to Lakshadweep islands....

....

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby mmasand » 13 Sep 2019 09:05

ramana wrote:Was this noted?

https://www.deccanherald.com/national/b ... 36262.html

The Navy, Coast Guard and Coastal police are maintaining a high level of surveillance off Kerala and Lakshadweep coasts following Intelligence reports that a boat carrying 15 Islamic State Terrorists had set off from Sri Lanka to Lakshadweep islands....

....


It's become unreasonable to separate the wheat from the chaff, so many of these tidbits doing the rounds. A prominent media outlet reported of rubber dinghy's being spotted near the LC, upon reading the article, it mentioned Rann of Kutch. Are we now calling the IB as a ceasefire line?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Kashi » 13 Sep 2019 09:26

What is it about the Bamyal sector that makes it so easy for Baki terrorists to infiltrate into India?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Aditya_V » 13 Sep 2019 12:59

Kashi wrote:What is it about the Bamyal sector that makes it so easy for Baki terrorists to infiltrate into India?


The river flows into Pakistan and back into India, River keeps changing course and Level, so something is flouted down from Pakistan into India on a makeshift raft, this may be the reason.


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