Internal Security Watch

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby arshyam » 30 Nov 2019 08:10

Vips wrote:
arshyam wrote:Death sentence would be too kind for these a******s.


Death sentence for the rapists/murderers is a certainity. It was well planned and pre-determined/pre-meditated.

This case is a litmus test for the Indian criminal justice system. All the courts (Lower through High Court/Supreme Court) should pass and maintain the death sentence. usually what happens is the lower court gives the death sentence but it gets converted into life sentence (which means only 14 years in jail) on appeal to higher court. This shitty system needs to go and the sentences needs to be made more stringent.

To start with Life sentence should mean entire life without parole like in the US.

Not true. For crimes that come under Sections 376A or 376D of the IPC, life is indeed life. That's what I was referring to when saying death sentence is too good for these perps. They need to be made to suffer. A lot.

376A. Whoever, commits an offence punishable under sub-section (1) or sub-section (2) of section 376 and in the course of such commission inflicts an injury which causes the death of the woman or causes the woman to be in a persistent vegetative state, shall be punished with rigorous imprisonment for a term which shall not be less than twenty years, but which may extend to imprisonment for life, which shall mean imprisonment for the remainder of that person's natural life, or with death

376D. Where a woman is raped by one or more persons constituting a group or acting in furtherance of a common intention, each of those persons shall be deemed to have committed the offence of rape and shall be punished with rigorous imprisonment for a term which shall not be less than twenty years, but which may extend to life which shall mean imprisonment for the remainder of that person's natural life, and with fine:
- Provided that such fine shall be just and reasonable to meet the medical expenses and rehabilitation of the victim
- Provided further that any fine imposed under this section shall be paid to the victim

Criminal Law (Amendment) Bill, 2013

The law is clear. Hope the police investigation is done properly so these a******s don't get off on some technicality.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Vips » 30 Nov 2019 10:57

arshyam wrote:
Vips wrote:
Death sentence for the rapists/murderers is a certainity. It was well planned and pre-determined/pre-meditated.

This case is a litmus test for the Indian criminal justice system. All the courts (Lower through High Court/Supreme Court) should pass and maintain the death sentence. usually what happens is the lower court gives the death sentence but it gets converted into life sentence (which means only 14 years in jail) on appeal to higher court. This shitty system needs to go and the sentences needs to be made more stringent.

To start with Life sentence should mean entire life without parole like in the US.



Anyone who gets life imprisonment takes advantage of "good conduct in jail" rule(Good conduct here means not being involved in any criminal activity during jail stay) and gets his sentence reduced to 14 years and is out at the end of those 14 years. In between he also comes out on parole and furlough

The rule should be clear no commuting of sentence and no parole whatsoever.
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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Aditya_V » 30 Nov 2019 11:04

Truth is the Judical system has broken down deliberately, for corrupt Politicans and NGO mafia, criminals are very useful. They will cough up the money and get bail for these when the deliberately stop covering it in the media. We have seen numerous times there is no justice through the Judicial system in Media, NDA-1 tried fast track courts but the Media Judicial- cinema system said it was illegal.

I am telling many Indians do not understand the kind of civilization war which has been unleashed. It is not by accident that many of the trouble making folks in JNU are very well taken care off.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Zynda » 02 Dec 2019 22:43

One thing I am noticing after the recent horrific & tragic attack is lack of standardization in emergency helpline numbers (& apps) across the country. I am seeing all kinds of 3 digit numbers starting from 100, 108 & now 112. Further, each city police force have their own apps?

I was under the impression that 108 has superseded previous emergency numbers for different services (if my memory serves right...100 was for police, 101 for fire & 102 for ambulance) and is consolidated.

Honestly, in times of crisis, it would be really difficult to remember which number to reach out to. I do hope that we establish one easy to remember number system like 911 or 999 for all emergencies.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Sachin » 03 Dec 2019 12:10

Zynda wrote:Honestly, in times of crisis, it would be really difficult to remember which number to reach out to. I do hope that we establish one easy to remember number system like 911 or 999 for all emergencies.

112 is now going to be the emergency number in India going forward. And it would be for all emergency services (police, fire, medical). The move to make 112 as the emergency number is going on at a steady pace. Each state is adopting it in a phased manner. Kerala has already moved to 112. But district police control rooms would still retain the number 100. 112 goes to a state level command centre. What is also happening is that all the highway police and control room mobiles are being equipped with tablet devices. This would be the primary mode of contact between the state level command centre and the individual patrols. The district & city controls essentially would be on wireless, but they too can (and would) move to using the tablet based communication system. Wireless would then be retained for redundancy purposes.

108 at least in Karnataka was a number to call up the free ambulance service. 101 is used by the Fire & Rescue. In Bengaluru city 103 was used for reaching the "Hoysala control" (i.e the control room under which the 24/7 patrol mobiles reported to). Then there were a series of 4 digit numbers, which was all the more confusing. 1012 (?) for women's issues, 1080 for BESCOM/Power Supply etc. etc.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Zynda » 03 Dec 2019 19:27

^^Thanks saar. Good to hear that there has been significant movement in adopting a single number...112 it is then!

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Vips » 04 Dec 2019 18:37

Chhattisgarh: ITBP jawan shoots dead 5 colleagues, commits suicide.

"The ITBP personnel who shot his five colleagues committed suicide with his own rifle and died on the spot.


According to officials, constable Masudul Rahman who belonged to Nadia in West Bengal fired at and killed head constable Mahendra Singh (Bilaspur, Himachal Pradesh), head constable Daljit Singh (Ludhiana, Punjab), constables Surjit Sarkar (Burdwan, West Bengal), Biswaroop Mahtoo (Purulia, West Bengal) and Bijeesh (Kozhikode, Kerala).
Two jawans who were injured and are undergoing treatment are constable SB Ullas (Tiruvandaapuram, Kerala) and constable Sitaram Doon (Nagour, Rajasthan).


ITBP is now trying to give a spin to this 'incident' as a clash between two groups. What is clear is that a jehadi possibly a bangladeshi origin person has in a pre meditated move killed 5 of our brave jawans.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Vips » 04 Dec 2019 18:37

Chhattisgarh: ITBP jawan shoots dead 5 colleagues, commits suicide.

"The ITBP personnel who shot his five colleagues committed suicide with his own rifle and died on the spot.


According to officials, constable Masudul Rahman who belonged to Nadia in West Bengal fired at and killed head constable Mahendra Singh (Bilaspur, Himachal Pradesh), head constable Daljit Singh (Ludhiana, Punjab), constables Surjit Sarkar (Burdwan, West Bengal), Biswaroop Mahtoo (Purulia, West Bengal) and Bijeesh (Kozhikode, Kerala).
Two jawans who were injured and are undergoing treatment are constable SB Ullas (Tiruvandaapuram, Kerala) and constable Sitaram Doon (Nagour, Rajasthan).


ITBP is now trying to give a spin to this 'incident' as a clash between two groups. What is clear is that a jehadi possibly a bangladeshi origin person has in a pre meditated move killed 5 of our brave jawans.


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