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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Yagnasri » 29 Jan 2021 19:08

2 years suspension of law is very bad move. Considering our rural poverty levels we needed the economic freedom these laws give decades back. Every day delay is a crime on people.

But I think we can do some serious steps immediately.

1. Stop all recruitment into forces from Punjab. Total. It can be done by a policy decision to recruit people from more poorer areas on the nation. No one can find fault with that idea.
2. FCI should limit the buying to the % of production of each state. Punjab lose massively in that.
3. Amend the agri law and remove applicability of them to Punjab. That is what they want. Right? Let no sale of Punjabi agri produce in other states.
4. No fertilizer subsidy or cash payment for farmers in Punjab. Since Agriculture is state subject let the Punjab State pay these amounts.

None of these measures can not opposed on any principle. Let the rest of the nation enjoy benefit of the agri laws.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Ambar » 29 Jan 2021 19:22

..and don't announce the above instead use the time tested babucracy redtapes instead. If the govt openly attacks freebies to farmers in one state then it will only give them justification to create more chaos and violence.

In other news a low intensity blast has been reported outside Israeli embassy in Delhi, 5 cars damaged but no reports of deaths or injuries. I suspect pakis or Iranians as usual.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby dipak » 29 Jan 2021 20:28

Low intensity blast near Isaraeli embassy in New Delhi, no casualties reported

Low intensity blast near Isaraeli embassy in New Delhi, no casualties reported

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby AkshaySG » 29 Jan 2021 21:09

Yagnasri wrote:None of these measures can not opposed on any principle. .


Lol these guys don't wait for principles or morals when it comes to protesting ... heck most of them don't even understand the details of the law they're protesting , They only need a leader or a news channel to tell them its bad and they'll be in the streets marching


I would rather have more sikhs in armed forces and have them go through the rigors of training and armed forces life which build up a sense a national pride that is unmatched in the civilian community rather than secretly (or openly ) reject them and leave tens of 1000's of strong able bodied men with a will to fight to be brainwashed and recruited into the cause of Khalistanis and extremists . The best way to deal with insurrection/independence movements is to have more of them fighting and understanding the cause from our side than on theirs . So its important that we recruit a lot from Sikhs, Gorkhas, Kashmiris ,Sikkim and NE . Which the army understands and has been very smartly doing .Because once a person becomes a soldier its not just he who changes , Its his family , his wife ,his kids ...All of them start understanding and holding the nation to high pedestal .

There are other ways to cause Punjab some heartache than this which is bound to cause more problems than it creates

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Re: Internal Security Watch

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby suryag » 30 Jan 2021 04:35

Thread cleaned up. Folks no need to bring forces in or tar the Sikhs in general, one of them got banned please dont invite another ban

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby KLNMurthy » 30 Jan 2021 06:34

Vivek K wrote:
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Backstabbing by the Congress? Man what a sense of entitlement. Bud we all lost lands and immense fortunes due to the partition but did not declare war on our government. And then you perpetrate another falsehood by saying that Punjabi Hindus suffered but far fewer in number. How did you arrive at that figure? Care to explain? Even the Pakistanis accept that Hindu businesses controlled Lahore (> 85%) and it was expected to be given to India. But was not. Reason - the Pakis were not willing to give up and the choice was to keep fighting or to have an independent state. Seems like you would have preferred India became like Palestine - they also will not accept anything less than 100% demands.

Its like saying - I wanted my father to get us a 50" TV but he did not (probably because he didn't have the money) so I will kill him.

So that is the crux of the problem. For Sikhs today, their loss is more than the loss of others, especially Hindus. And these imagined "backstabbings" continue to come out of the woodwork. First it was - Chandigarh should be given to Punjab, and India has never allowed a Sikh Army Chief. Well India has shown how much it values its Sikh community. There have been Sikh Army Chiefs, Air Chiefs, PM, Chief Election Commissioner, etc. etc. But the demands show the sense of entitlement. Haryana has moved its government apparatus to adjacent Panchkula.


The OP didn't deny that Sikhs are responsible for their own words and actions.

But you are pushing a narrative that only leads to a divide between Hindus and Sikhs in general. I get that it suits the hard feelings you may be having. But how does it benefit India to have irreconcilable differences between Hindus and Sikhs, something which may ultimately lead to war between Hindus and Sikhs?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby KLNMurthy » 30 Jan 2021 06:37

Yagnasri wrote:2 years suspension of law is very bad move. Considering our rural poverty levels we needed the economic freedom these laws give decades back. Every day delay is a crime on people.

But I think we can do some serious steps immediately.

1. Stop all recruitment into forces from Punjab. Total. It can be done by a policy decision to recruit people from more poorer areas on the nation. No one can find fault with that idea.
2. FCI should limit the buying to the % of production of each state. Punjab lose massively in that.
3. Amend the agri law and remove applicability of them to Punjab. That is what they want. Right? Let no sale of Punjabi agri produce in other states.
4. No fertilizer subsidy or cash payment for farmers in Punjab. Since Agriculture is state subject let the Punjab State pay these amounts.

None of these measures can not opposed on any principle. Let the rest of the nation enjoy benefit of the agri laws.


You want GoI to declare war on Punjab?

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Yagnasri » 30 Jan 2021 10:49

No. Why should I? If Punjab does not want GoI to have anything to do with the agri activity in Punjab, then naturally they should not expect agir related subsidies from GoI. There can not be demand for subsidy form GoI and at the same time opposition to GoI constitutional power to legislate on trade which is clearly constitutional.

As far as the recruitment in the armed forces is concerned, it is time we start recruitment from all over the nation where there are willing and well qualified young men are available. Poor areas of the nation will benefit from the employment provided in the armed forces.

Let us not forget what is said in the recent Nepali agitations etc that Gurkhas save Bharat wherein Gurkhas shown as superhumans rest of people are waste fellows.

We have without any shame continued the openly racist idea of Marshall Race theory in recruiting from Punjab is highly disproportionate to their population % in the nation. Now that high recruitment is somehow shown as the superiority of the Sikhs and Punjab from other states and people. Time to relook that.

When next Khalisthan terror activities start, not if but when we will see a much larger effort from BIF efforts to move misinformation and unfortunately the large Sikhs will result in a serious threat to national security.

We are just waiting for the terror to start.

We need to challenge caste and community superiority asap.BIF is now into Jat superiority and Jat agitation.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sudeepj » 30 Jan 2021 11:47

krishna_krishna wrote:Guys I have been on this forum since '06 days it is sad that some posts on this thread have either come to maligning Sikhs or some portraying them as victims and historical context of their anti-india/anti-hindu stance and justifying how they behave are direct result of this context. I disagree with both of these narratives.


There is no question of justification. What the Sikh mob at red fort did was completely unacceptable and there must be repercussions. Knowing Jats, if you dont punish them severely here, they will try again. Perhaps the govt is just waiting for the right excuse and occasion to crack down on these forces.

At the same time, the unease and pain in the Sikh community, 99% of whom have nothing to do with this nonsense, and arent Khalistanis, is real. You must be able to empathize even with your enemy to understand where they come from and how to defeat them. These people are our brothers.

Rest of your post is spot on. However, I will just say, to me, its not clear if the state, esp the UK/US state is supporting these elements *today* (historically, they have). The Canadian state is, but that is more because of how these elements have entwined themselves in the liberal party there and insinuated themselves into positions of power through gurudwara mobilization in primaries. This was a 10+ year long project and one must admire the chutzpah in how they have managed to install a Khalistani Jat Sikh - a most conservative community - on top of the most radical left wing party NDP! right now, they may look powerful, but IMO this power is extremely brittle.

The counter may have to come from local hindus mobilizing from temples and community events. UK hindus have gotten off to a good start and it will bear fruit in later years. Canadian and American hindus have a lot of catching up to do in this regard.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Yagnasri » 30 Jan 2021 12:15

As I said before, BIF is started next round of Khalistani terror activities. We need not be surprised if the killings start soon. This time they have much more support from INC, AAP which was not even there in the last round and Akalis. Both INC and Akalis are main parties in Punjab. AAP is also powerful. Imagine what this round of terror will do this time around unless the same is crushed with iron fist immediately. While common people may not support, the political people will support terror this time for sure.

Better to make everyone realise that there is no free respect to the people of any state in the nation. No special treatment for any community. The treatment given to Muslims already came back to bite us in the a&&. How long we treat people bent on carrying terror attacks with kid gloves and do not take the proactive measures.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby jamwal » 30 Jan 2021 16:29

AkshaySG wrote:
Yagnasri wrote:None of these measures can not opposed on any principle. .


Lol these guys don't wait for principles or morals when it comes to protesting ... heck most of them don't even understand the details of the law they're protesting , They only need a leader or a news channel to tell them its bad and they'll be in the streets marching


I would rather have more sikhs in armed forces and have them go through the rigors of training and armed forces life which build up a sense a national pride that is unmatched in the civilian community rather than secretly (or openly ) reject them and leave tens of 1000's of strong able bodied men with a will to fight to be brainwashed and recruited into the cause of Khalistanis and extremists . The best way to deal with insurrection/independence movements is to have more of them fighting and understanding the cause from our side than on theirs . So its important that we recruit a lot from Sikhs, Gorkhas, Kashmiris ,Sikkim and NE . Which the army understands and has been very smartly doing .Because once a person becomes a soldier its not just he who changes , Its his family , his wife ,his kids ...All of them start understanding and holding the nation to high pedestal .

There are other ways to cause Punjab some heartache than this which is bound to cause more problems than it creates


Is this the type of patriotism army teaches?
Seems like all this training is pretty useless for this type.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CKor9ZTs1He ... yae2zd0w0u

A sikh ex-serviceman threatening civil war and sedition if demands of punjabi farmers are not met.
Also read the comments. All Sikhs talking like hateful jihadis

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby Yagnasri » 30 Jan 2021 18:25

BIF never stopped worked on Khalisthan terror. Decades of poison sprinkling done. It is natural that some section supports the terror now. How big and how powerful is this Khalisthani gang is the question. Then this time around there is also a huge amount of drug consumsion and drug money. One can be sure that these drug trade also being used to make Khalisthanis in Punjab. Narco Terror is not a new thing. Particularly when drugs coming from Pakistan.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby uddu » 30 Jan 2021 20:30

Their next target seems to be TN and the south. The Prince is now seen mostly in those areas trying to garner sympathy. The election need to be won and if that means freebies flowing so be it. I am assuming the long term plan is to link up with other Non-BJP elements to create mayhem in the South. May be this is the right time to target the enemy across the border and also the leaders of BIF on whose lies both the CAA riots and this riots started.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby darshan » 30 Jan 2021 21:31

Side note: It would be nice if such detailed articles are also provided for islamists.
16-year-old Singaporean detained under ISA after planning to attack Muslims at 2 mosques
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/si ... s-14052400
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The teenager, who was not named, is a Protestant Christian of Indian ethnicity. He is the youngest person to be dealt with under the ISA for terrorism-related activities, the Internal Security Department (ISD) said in a media release.

A Secondary 4 student at the time of his arrest, he is the first detainee to be inspired by far-right extremist ideology, ISD added.

ISD stated that the teen was influenced by the 2019 terror attacks at two mosques in Christchurch.

“He was self-radicalised, motivated by a strong antipathy towards Islam and a fascination with violence,” ISD said.

“He watched the livestreamed video of the terrorist attack on the two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand on Mar 15, 2019, and read the manifesto of the Christchurch attacker, Brenton Tarrant.

....

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby sudeepj » 30 Jan 2021 22:38

jamwal wrote:
AkshaySG wrote:
Lol these guys don't wait for principles or morals when it comes to protesting ... heck most of them don't even understand the details of the law they're protesting , They only need a leader or a news channel to tell them its bad and they'll be in the streets marching


I would rather have more sikhs in armed forces and have them go through the rigors of training and armed forces life which build up a sense a national pride that is unmatched in the civilian community rather than secretly (or openly ) reject them and leave tens of 1000's of strong able bodied men with a will to fight to be brainwashed and recruited into the cause of Khalistanis and extremists . The best way to deal with insurrection/independence movements is to have more of them fighting and understanding the cause from our side than on theirs . So its important that we recruit a lot from Sikhs, Gorkhas, Kashmiris ,Sikkim and NE . Which the army understands and has been very smartly doing .Because once a person becomes a soldier its not just he who changes , Its his family , his wife ,his kids ...All of them start understanding and holding the nation to high pedestal .

There are other ways to cause Punjab some heartache than this which is bound to cause more problems than it creates


Is this the type of patriotism army teaches?
Seems like all this training is pretty useless for this type.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CKor9ZTs1He ... yae2zd0w0u

A sikh ex-serviceman threatening civil war and sedition if demands of punjabi farmers are not met.
Also read the comments. All Sikhs talking like hateful jihadis


It could be just a couple of actors.

I am not sure, but I was seeing a Gaurav Arya program about a Sikh regiment a few years ago and the thought crossed my mind that this seems similar to the same McAullife brand/Tat Khalsa brand radical preaching that originally distorted the beautiful dharma. Basically, they took a supremely spiritual panth, reduced it to its most militant sect, and poisoned it against the other practices that were quite common among their own ancestors! As long as that kind of tradition is there, these guys will remain susceptible to brain washing.

btw. Instagram has been almost completely taken over by leftists. They are very skilled crafters of visual messages and the crowd there is younger. RW/nationalists are almost completely absent there. Dont be surprised by those comments.. Its representative of the crowd on that platform.

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Postby Philip » 30 Jan 2021 22:55

Extreme care to be taken in the coming months as crucial state elections are round the corner.The relentless campaign by the Sino- Pak JV is to undermine our democracy, divide our people and cause chaos in the streets. "Attack is the best form of defence", it is said.We must pay back the Pakis and the Chinkos
in similar fashion.

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Postby Prem » 31 Jan 2021 07:23

sudeepj wrote:
jamwal wrote:
Is this the type of patriotism army teaches?
Seems like all this training is pretty useless for this type.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CKor9ZTs1He ... yae2zd0w0u

A sikh ex-serviceman threatening civil war and sedition if demands of punjabi farmers are not met.
Also read the comments. All Sikhs talking like hateful jihadis


It could be just a couple of actors.
btw. Instagram has been almost completely taken over by leftists. They are very skilled crafters of visual messages and the crowd there is younger. RW/nationalists are almost completely absent there. Dont be surprised by those comments.. Its representative of the crowd on that platform.


There are actors masquerading as Fauji and this trick has already failed.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby chetak » 01 Feb 2021 18:51

x posted from the political thread


The so called "farmers" protests and agitation, funded, led and gamed by the BIF has become a serious issue of national security with grave implications for internal security and a concerted attempt at destabilization followed by regime change


Delhi Riots to Republic Day Mahyem: Unravelling Plot to Trigger Arab Spring-Style Anarchy in India



Delhi Riots to Republic Day Mahyem: Unravelling Plot to Trigger Arab Spring-Style Anarchy in India


Those who could not defeat India in conventional wars, or through terrorism, may use mob as a weapon to trigger civil unrest to destroy India from within


JANUARY 31, 2021,
Pathikrit Payne

An old saying goes like this: ‘if something looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it is probably a duck’. The telltale signs of striking similarity between the Republic Day riots and mayhem unleashed in the heart of Delhi by so-called farm law protestors, the anti-CAA riots that took place in the same city last year, as well as the Arab Spring violence that triggered civil wars in several states of the Middle East, are too profound to ignore.

This perhaps brings to the fore the fundamental issue of whether the anarchic violence that Delhi faced, not once but twice in the last one year, were disparate incidents of attempted civil unrest orchestrated by a bunch of rogue elements or whether there is a bigger conspiracy to pin down, cripple and debilitate India from within.

ASPIRATIONAL INDIA CAN RATTLE MANY

A country with 1.3 billion-strong population, reasonably replete with natural and human resources, forex reserves at estimated $584-billion, one of the largest armed forces, and with the potential to become a $10-trillion economy by 2030-32, is not just another country. It is a force to reckon with, and is a competition for many. However, many of India’s adversaries, both in the neighbourhood and beyond, have realized that India cannot be defeated in conventional wars or through terrorism. Not that those have not been tried. On the contrary, no opportunity has been spared to devastate India through terrorism or through attempts of waging wars against it. Yet, both these efforts by India’s adversaries only resulted in galvanizing the nation even more profoundly.

This is where the newer hybrid version of war was perhaps conceived and unleashed on India, and for which, the Arab Spring was the template that was put into execution ‘to bleed India through a thousand cuts’.

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OPENING A NEW FRONT AGAINST INDIA

The Balakot airstrike altered the threshold of India’s counter-terror response mechanism forever. It made Pakistan realize very clearly that henceforth, there would be severe punitive actions that the deep state of Pakistan would have to bear for hatching any more of 26/11- or Pulwama-type terror attacks. With full-fledged war against India out of question for decades now, and India’s counter-infiltration grid in Kashmir making it extremely difficult for Pakistan to cause any more upheaval there, Rawalpindi, and perhaps its masters in Beijing have been desperate to open a new front against India. For them, Kashmir is almost a lost case with increasing possibilities of diminishing returns.

If raising the Khalistan bogey in Punjab with support from expatriate Khalistani supporters was one of the options, the other invariably was to support every protest in India, and act as a catalyst to trigger civil unrests by latching on to issues and helping rabble-rousers through incessant disinformation campaigns to fuel riots and mayhem within India, where unfortunately, civilian protestors themselves would become the weapons of devastation to be used against the state.

THE ARAB SPRING TEMPLATE

If in 2020, it was the anti-CAA protests that were turned into destructive riots in the heart of India’s capital during the visit of US President Donald Trump, through an overwhelming disinformation campaign, the same template was put into action during the recent protest over farm laws on Republic Day, where too a set of most obnoxious fake information was circulated to create a panic situation surrounding some much-needed and extremely reasonable agriculture market reforms. On both occasions, days of riots were chosen carefully to get maximum global attention.

A dangerous cocktail of anti-government sentiments, created deliberately through sustained disinformation dissemination, radical religious ideologies, and organized mob violence, was used to unleash mayhem in India’s capital, much like it happened in Syria during the Arab Spring violence, to create a spectre of anarchy to not just shame the nation and symbols of its sovereignty, but to make every attempt to provoke the security agencies so that they fire incessantly in retaliation, which would result in fatalities.

For the anarchists, rabble-rousers, and their masterminds, the next plan was to ferry around those dead bodies, in case bullets were fired by the police, in funeral processions amidst war cries to create deep revulsion against the Government of India. The farm bill protest was a mere tool. The real objective was to cripple India from within through anarchy and then make it implode from within. Both the anti-CAA riots and the Republic Day riots were aimed at provoking violent retribution by law enforcement agencies, which then could be used as a justification (sic!!) to fuel more riots and make calls for global action or sanctions against India. That, perhaps, was what had been planned by the anarchists while taking cue from the Syrian Arab Spring template that resulted in a devastating civil war aided most generously by external elements to make sure that the country is destroyed from within.

But unlike Bashar al-Assad’s Syrian Army that fired at the violent mobs on rampage, and which gave justification for the anarchists in Syria to create the Free Syrian Army to wage an outright war, Modi government did not take the bait, neither in 2020 nor in 2021. That perhaps is the biggest regret of the anarchists, some of whom are now cribbing as to why the security forces did not fire in retaliation in order to control the violent rioters. In hindsight, it is their frustration speaking, because not only the Republic Day rampage made them lose the general public support but also made it clear that the farm issue is just a ploy for most of the rioters and anarchists out there shedding crocodile tears for farmers.

UNMASKING THE PLAYERS

If in 2020, the Popular Front of India (PFI) was under the scanner for its alleged role in funding of the anti-CAA riots, in the 2021 Republic Day rampage, the role of Khalistani organizations and the Communists is now out of the closet. In November 2020, the Khalistani organizations had planned the Referendum 2020 to gauge the global support for a separate Khalistani state among expatriate Sikh population. It was always an open secret that Pakistan’s deep state and the ISI were looking forward to it.

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Surprisingly, the demand for a separate Khalistan in the Referendum 2020 agenda never included the Pakistani part of Punjab. However, plans for Referendum 2020 in general, and the demand for Khalistan, never got much traction in Punjab, barring some fringe groups. In fact, the Khalistani groups had been pushed to the fringe. They were desperate for an issue to latch on to and unleash their own agenda, knowing well that they cannot draw support merely over the Khalistan issue. In the farm law protests centered around Punjab and Haryana, they found the perfect ‘beast of burden’ to piggyback on, to spew hatred and to plan their ruckus against the Indian state.

Much like the Khalistani groups, the Communist groups too have been reduced to irrelevance in India over the last decade because of their Jurassic-age ideologies and sheer lack of vision for India’s aspirational future. Yet, even as they have lost their popularity across the spectrum of India, among rural communities of Punjab, much like an oasis, their sway remains strong. Even as the funding came from the Khalistani supporters abroad, the ISI-backed elements played their part to amplify the decibel through social media, and the rural mobilization was done by the Communist organizations through a series of disinformation campaigns to instill fear among the farming community. One has to remember that the no one in India has mastered the art of violent mobilization for destructive causes like the Communists. Communists in Bengal have to their credit the closure of more than 58,000 factories through violent militant trade unionism and organized rampage of factory premises, all in the name of labour welfare, during their 34 years of misrule there.

SHADOW-BOXING FOR RIOT MASTERMINDS

Meanwhile, even as this siege of Delhi and rampage on the Republic Day happened, shadow-boxing for riot masterminds was being done in India by those in the political arena who have been desperate to corner the Modi government and have found it terribly hard to pin it down electorally in the last six years.

In a country where a miniscule fraction of rich farmers, commission agents and middlemen have run Indian agriculture sector in a feudalistic manner for decades, and deprived more than 85 per cent of India’s farmers the choice of market freedom that resulted in hundreds of thousands of farmers committing suicide over the last few decades, sadly, a large section of India’s opposition political parties and even a section of media have found it more convenient to support those who want such monopolistic practices to continue than to be the voice of hundreds of millions of small farmers who would genuinely benefit from the new farm laws that would also unchain them from the stranglehold of the feudal farm lords and commission agents.

RESILIENT INDIA IS NOT SYRIA

It is true that India is not Syria and India’s resilience as a nation is unmatched. That is why neither the anti-CAA riots nor the Republic Day rampage got any support from the people of India. However, even though the rioters may have been shamed and cornered, they are still around, lurking in the hideouts and waiting for the next opportunity to spread mayhem. It is also true that India’s security agencies have shown tremendous restraint, be it during the Shaheen Bagh blockade, the anti-CAA riots or the rampage on Republic Day. The self-imposed restraint did take away from the anarchists the opportunity to take their conspiracy to the next level of nationwide violence, projecting the Government of India as ‘brutal’ and calling for international intervention to oust a democratically elected government, as it happened in Syria, followed by a civil war.

A PLAN TO DERAIL INVESTMENTS

It is not that no damage has been done to India through these riots. From planned destruction of thousands of mobile towers to destruction of public properties in Delhi, to storming of Red Fort, to siege of Delhi and a concerted attempt to defame and vilify India’s top corporate houses, each of these acts of anarchy did get covered in media across the world. One has to realize that one of the key objectives of the anarchists and those with vested interests is to project India in such a manner that major investments don’t land here. In other words, there is a concerted attempt to defame India as an investment destination, especially when major efforts are being made by the Government of India to project India as a global manufacturing hub and offer India as a safe destination for investments to organizations who have been keen to shift their production base from China to India.

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Also, barely recovering from the pandemic-related crisis, the siege of major arterial routes of Delhi by protestors has already led to Delhi-based business entities suffering losses estimated at over Rs 50,000 crore, which can literally force closure of many factories if the siege continues. And, this is exactly what India’s adversaries want.

A TEMPLATE FOR PUNITIVE ACTION

Therefore, while the Indian security agencies and the Government of India have shown tremendous restraint in the face of provocative violence, in order to prevent fatalities which can trigger a fresh cycle of violence, it also has to be kept in mind that India’s patience should not be misconstrued as its weakness. For a country which has successfully countered all kinds of misadventures of Pakistan and China, it has to show a similar resolve, and not just composure, to deal ruthlessly with anarchists and rabble-rousers, if push comes to shove. India therefore needs a new set of laws, which would stringently prohibit blockade of national highways or major arterial routes connecting cities, and would make rioters, and their family members pay for the damages caused to public properties or critical infrastructure. Unless exemplary punitive action is not taken, this template of mob violence, that has been witnessed not just in Delhi but in the US too, can set a dangerous precedent, only to be repeated often by vested interests to paralyse policymaking and economic activities in India.

This is a new dimension of conflict against which tanks and fighter aircraft cannot be deployed. India would have to ruthlessly deal with it in other ways and make sure that its aspiration of becoming a $10-trillion economy by 2030-32 is not derailed by a bunch of rabble-rousers and their plot to create an Arab Spring-type of anarchy to destroy India from within.


Disclaimer:The author is a geopolitical analyst. Views expressed are personal.

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Re: Internal Security Watch

Postby darshan » 07 Feb 2021 21:19

All areas with christian connections?
Navy officer abducted from Chennai airport dies after being set on fire in Palghar, Maharashtra. Read details
https://www.opindia.com/2021/02/suraj-k ... t-on-fire/
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As per reports, Dubey was a resident of Ranchi, Jharkhand. He had recently got engaged and was to be married in about three months’ time. He worked as a seaman at INS Agrani training school in Coimbatore. The victim, who was on a leave, had returned to Chennai on January 31 via a flight. At around 9 pm, the Navy sailor was threatened by three people with a revolver and his cellphone was snatched away. The unidentified men then forced Dubey into a white SUV and asked him to pay ₹10 lacs as ransom.
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Postby Cyrano » 08 Feb 2021 23:45

Seems he borrowed heavily to play in stocks and lost. Not sure how he managed that despite booming markets. Coimbatore also has Sadhguru's Isha ashram.

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Postby darshan » 09 Feb 2021 00:13

Cyrano wrote:Seems he borrowed heavily to play in stocks and lost. Not sure how he managed that despite booming markets. Coimbatore also has Sadhguru's Isha ashram.

Is that an attempt to lessen the blow or to not find any connection? Many have committed "suicides" over all sorts of loans acquired using phones. Anything happening in MH certainly first needs to be looked at from the EJ angle, then D company, etc...

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Postby Philip » 09 Feb 2021 01:32

EJ angle? D co.? Frankly speaking, it's most likely aout money.If he was only a seaman,espionage too is unlikely.Coimbatore is not a great naval facility, an inland establishment I think for training petty officers.If I remember right, it used to be a Seahawk MRO facility before that moved to Goa or Cochin. Agrani is better known for its naval rifle shooters. The IAF's LCA sqds. are located there at the Sulur airbase.

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Postby chetak » 21 Feb 2021 15:00

beedis have the b@!!$ to operate freely in the heart of India and we have pampered these roper aholes by tolerating them letting them live in India


A gift from mumtaz bano, and it's a gift that keeps on giving. :mrgreen:



Eleven Terror Accused Committed Dacoity In Bengaluru To Fund ‘Maal E Ganimat’ Activities, Says NIA



Eleven Terror Accused Committed Dacoity In Bengaluru To Fund ‘Maal E Ganimat’ Activities, Says NIA

Swarajya Staff,
Feb 19, 2021.

Eleven Terror Accused Committed Dacoity In Bengaluru To Fund ‘Maal E Ganimat’ Activities, Says NIA


Snapshot
NIA files chargesheet before a special court against members of a Bangladesh-based terror outfit over dacoities in silicon city Bengaluru.


The National Investigation Agency (NIA) on Wednesday filed a chargesheet against 11 terror accused for carrying out dacoities in Karnataka’s capital city Bengaluru to fund their terror activities.

While 10 of them are from Bengal, one of the accused is a native of Assam and have been operating under the banner of the banned outfit Jammaat-ul-Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB).

According to a release issued by the central agency, the main accused Jahidul Islam/Kausar disclosed all the hideouts of the terrorists and identified shops where they had procured the weapons to carry out the dacoities and the houses attacked for the purpose.

Kausar has been charged with promoting activities of JMB in India and is also one of the prime accused in the serial blasts that took place in Bangladesh in 2005. He is also said to be an accused and the main conspirator in the Bodh Gaya as well as the Burdwan blast cases.

The accused raised funds under the banner ‘Maal E Ganimat’ and committed dacoities in four places in Bengaluru. Two places in Attibele and one each in K R Puram and Kothanur were targeted from February to April in 2018.

The accused are: Nasir Sheikhalias Paula Anas(25), Asif Ikbal alias Nadem(23), Jahidul Islam alias Kausaraged(40), Kader Kazi alias Mijanur Rahaman(33), Habibur Rahman SK alias Talha(28) Mohammed Dilwar Hossain alias Umar(28), Musta Fizur Rahman alias Asadullah (27) Abdul Karim alias Karim SK (21) Mosaraf Hossain alias Hossain(22) from West Bengal and Arif Hussain alias Mota Anas (24) from Assam.

The release said that the key accused Kausar is a Bangladeshi national and has been involved in promoting the activities of the JMB in India. The investigations have revealed the ‘broad network forged by JMB terrorists in India for committing terrorist and subversive activities by procuring arms and explosives, recruiting youth and conducting training camps’.

The same organisation, which has been banned in Bangladesh since 2005, is said to have helped the two members of the Popular Front of India (PFI) arrested in Lucknow on Tuesday to arrange for explosives and firearms to carry out terror activities across Uttar Pradesh and the country.

Reports say, Asad Badruddin and Feroz Khan, both residents of Kerala who were arrested from Lucknow’s Gudamba area, visited Bangladesh and sought the help of JMB to procure explosives to trigger blasts in India.

The Anti-Terrorism Squad booked them for illegal possession of explosives, firearms and waging war against the country after the special task force of the UP Police recovered 16 high explosive devices with battery detonators, a pistol and live cartridges.

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Bangladesh refuses to take back Rohingya refugees, shifts responsibility to India
NEW DELHI: In what is seen as a shocking lack of sensitivity, the Bangladesh government is apparently turning away from its responsibility to take back a group of Rohingya refugees, mostly women, who are currently adrift in the high seas after escaping from refugee camps in Cox’s Bazar in Bangladesh.
India wants Bangladesh to take them back. Bangladesh is passing on the buck to India. This has the potential for a diplomatic problem between the two neighbours, particularly as Prime Minister Narendra Modi is scheduled to travel to Dhaka on March 26. The Indian government issued a note to Bangladesh, but there is no reply yet from Dhaka.
Last Saturday, the Home Secretary-level talks between the two countries saw Indian officials making a strong case for Bangladesh to take the refugees back.
However, Bangladesh foreign minister, A. K. Abdul Momen told Reuters, “They are not Bangladesh nationals and in fact, they are Myanmar nationals. They were found 1,700 km (1,100 miles) away from the Bangladesh maritime territory and therefore, we have no obligation to take them.”

“Has Bangladesh been given the global contract and responsibility to take and rehabilitate all the Rohingya or boat people of the world?” Momen said. “No, not at all.”
The boatload of 81 Rohingya refugees — 64 women and girls, 26 men and boys — sailed from Cox’s Bazar in Bangladesh on February 11. On February 15, the boat developed engine failure, and since then have been drifting on the high seas.
India dispatched its Coast Guard which administered food and medical assistance to the stranded peoples, said Anurag Srivastava, MEA spokesperson. Of the 81 people on board, eight had died due to starvation and other extreme conditions, and one had “escaped”, that is, jumped off the boat.
The boat was headed to Thailand or Malaysia, and security officials said, prima facie, given the number of women and children on board, the refugees were probably being trafficked.
Srivastava told journalists, “We understand that around 47 of the occupants of the boat are in possession of ID cards issued to them by UNHCR office in Bangladesh stating that they are displaced Myanmar nationals and person of concern to UNHCR registered by the Government of Bangladesh.”
The incident calls into question the activities of the UNHCR as well, which is supposed to be monitoring the refugees, particularly if trafficking was the motive.

This could be a one-off incident, or it could be the beginning of a trend. The fact is Bangladesh is finding it hard to handle the Rohingya refugees — in 2017, Sheikh Hasina welcomed them when they were driven out of Myanmar. The world helped out Bangladesh with assistance in money and in kind. India has already sent more than five tranches of assistance to the refugee camps.
According to Bangladesh security officials, the refugee camp population in Cox’s Bazar grows by 64000 a year. Myanmar has refused to take them back saying they are of Bangladesh origin. Neither China nor India has been able to persuade Naypyidaw otherwise, even though India has built many houses in Rakhine state for potential returnees. The west has imposed sanctions on Myanmar, which has not helped the repatriation process.
Bangladesh is staring at a monumental crisis — first, a political one, since there is growing unrest among Bangladeshis; second, growing radicalisation among the refugees, which makes them fertile ground for online indoctrination by Pakistani Islamist groups. The government has started moving the refugees to an island, Bhashan Char, off the coast, which has invited criticism, but Dhaka is going ahead.
But if Bangladesh begins to turn a blind eye to these escaping refugees, it could not only sour ties with India but bring a lot more international criticism on Dhaka.

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Postby Kaivalya » 02 Mar 2021 05:17

Not sure I should post it here or in the cyber warfare thread:

https://thediplomat.com/2021/03/china-targeted-indias-power-grid-new-report-says/

, a Chinese entity penetrated India’s power grid at multiple load dispatch points. It also raises the possibility that an October 13 blackout in India’s financial capital Mumbai, while the city managed to contain COVID-19 outbreak, could be related to this intrusion
:shock:

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Postby Vips » 03 Mar 2021 00:14

The grid collapse was due to the Transmission lines getting snapped due to a huge high tension lines carrying tower collapse near Lonavala. Did not know the Chinese had the ability to beam down a tower destroying robot :rotfl:


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