Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

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India first Civilisation, Analysis by Vasant Shinde at Deccan College, Pune.

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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Postby Prem Kumar » 12 Sep 2019 09:37

^^
Good coverage. NewsX seems to be the only channel that gave the Rakhigarhi findings the attention it deserved!

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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Postby Prem Kumar » 14 Sep 2019 00:16

Nice video about the Sanauli burial site discovery. Chariots in 2200 - 2000 BCE. With solid wheels. Engraved swords & world's first copper helmet!

Apparently 125 burials were found. I sincerely hope that they excavated carefully & were able to get aDNA from at least some of these.


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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Postby ramana » 14 Sep 2019 03:16

Shiv wrote a very good analysis of the findings and put it in Google Docs.

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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Postby Prem Kumar » 14 Sep 2019 16:02

Saw it Ramana. Nice takedown of the Linguistic fakery & the Salma-quotes-Sabrina syndrome

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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Postby Rsatchi » 16 Sep 2019 19:03

https://youtu.be/7slCsPMsOSQ
Lo Ji
Mr Coupta with his 2-paisa analysis on Rakhigarhi DNA :lol:
A bit of time pass :D

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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Postby Supratik » 16 Sep 2019 19:27

Read both papers briefly. The Indian side was bulldozed into mentioning that language may have come with the later Steppe migration. It is quite possible the Steppe migrants spoke IE but it could be merely round-tripping as IE may have moved to Steppe earlier through IVC cline. Similar to what happened with Sakas and Kushans who were IE but became Sanskritized. The presence of Steppe genes in Brahmins is highlighted as proof of this but the data has more non-Brahmin castes with Steppe genes. It could simply mean that the Steppe integrated mainly into upper castes and stayed in north India.

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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Postby Supratik » 17 Sep 2019 01:20

I forgot to add BMAC which they were confident was the homeland till a few years back has no gene flow to South Asia. It has now shifted to Yamnaya migration. My hunch is that it is probably true but has nothing to do with homeland. What the Indians need are more aDNA specially male ones.

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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Postby Prem Kumar » 17 Sep 2019 01:41

The "Aryans came from Central Asia" is yet another lie that was busted with Vasant Shinde's paper. If anything, per the latest paper, IVC DNA is found in Central Asia!

So, Vagheesh et al are coining a new term "Inner Asian Mountain corridor", as if its like a new Silk Route through which Aryans galloped on their horses. Central Asia is dropped like a hot-potato & Mountain Corridor is the new black!

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Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Postby Supratik » 17 Sep 2019 02:00

Another point. Reich says there cannot be a Indian homeland as there is no Andamanese in Europe. This can be explained as there were several migrations from both out of India and into India. The earlier IVC migrations out of India may have happened before Andamanese mixture. And god forbid if some day traces of Andamanese is found further up north.


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