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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby nam » 02 Nov 2017 21:51

Before censuring the Chinis, can we sanction PA as terror org? Have you heard of Israel & Hizbullah having hotlines?

If we can't then all these are waste of time.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby TKiran » 02 Nov 2017 22:13

Sorry for OT, but Pakistan is like a brother who has taken on drinking, womanizing, chori, dakaithee, murder, rape etc, so, we have to be hesitant to take action, try being optimistic eventhough only a miracle only can save such a brother, but still you don't want to call such a brother names, there's nothing wrong in hoping that one day, we will assimilate the real estate of Pakistan without its subjects,

But with funny yellow Han, we need not be apolegetic at all. We don't need to show any inhibitions in bloodying their nose, door door tak ka koi vaasta nahin...
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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby sanjaykumar » 02 Nov 2017 22:32

The problem issues that India has been doing tea chai while China does tai chi.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby chola » 02 Nov 2017 22:56

sanjaykumar wrote:The problem issues that India has been doing tea chai while China does tai chi.


That, my friend, is really good word play!

And like tai chi, China doesn’t do real violence well.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby abhik » 02 Nov 2017 23:10

If you are not getting any ideas of how to tackle china, then just take a page out of china's book.
Dec 2016: Chinese warship seizes US underwater drone in international waters

@chola China may be a mercantile nation, but we worse.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby chola » 02 Nov 2017 23:34

abhik wrote:If you are not getting any ideas of how to tackle china, then just take a page out of china's book.
Dec 2016: Chinese warship seizes US underwater drone in international waters

@chola China may be a mercantile nation, but we worse.


Yes actions like those is what the US Navy is calling fighting in the “gray zone.” I wrote about this many times. Actions that establish de facto jurisdiction that come from having so many PLAN vessels around (in this case patrolling off Subic Bay.)

Unless you declare war, there is nothing you can do except pour in the same amount of ships to counter them. But their strategy is premised on the fact they can always build and employ far more stuff than you.

This is coming to the IOR. And the worst thing that could happen is not that we go to war. But that we do not go to war and simply watch as the ocean get filled up by Cheen equipment year after year.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby ashish raval » 03 Nov 2017 04:13

TKiran wrote:There should be semi-official calling of China as as "Terrorism Supporter". Atleast the BJP President should directly call China "Terrorism Supporter". Usually, MSM does a huge number of opinions and columns in any other country. But in India MSM does not have credibility, in fact, you may see some pro-beijing columns in news papers, truely sad.

Agree. I also think it is time to say farewell to masood by dronacharya hit and start laying land mines long CPEC and build enough Arsenal along the pukistan border that pukistan becomes graveyard of chini birathers. Make it expensive to maintain CPEC all along the route. All countries should be explicitly warned about OBOR and chini empire building strategy and plan for enslavement in long run. They are just behaving like queen bee using these nation as workers to fund their long term future.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby SSridhar » 03 Nov 2017 08:36

GoI has got every right to disrupt CPEC in GB. It has to start making statements about its rights in order to prepare the ground and highlight the illegality of the Chinese enterprise through occupied Indian lands. There must be constant hammering of this fact so as to act as a legal cover for India's hard actions there eventually. It is not enough if we make noises sporadically. The Chinese MEA has a press meet practically everyday and puts forth its claims on various issues consistently and without fail. Later, they claim that the Chinese stand had always been consistent, a circular argument but effective though, however banal it otherwise is. Even if India does not conduct press meets as frequently, the statements must go out about the venality of the CPEC very regularly and about India reserving its rights to act to protect its legitimate interests.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Hari Seldon » 03 Nov 2017 08:56

Mean-e-while...

Ananth Krishnan‏Verified account @ananthkrishnan 2h2 hours ago
HT today carries 4 pages of Chinese govt propaganda masquerading as news (a small print disclosure on just the first page doesn't do much)


https://twitter.com/ananthkrishnan/stat ... 0520076289

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GoI at the highest levels must decide to have a policy of strict reciprocity with PRC.

Would PRC allow a foreign power to buy prominent space in its newsmedia? If not, PRC should be denied the same right here.

Similarly, does PRC allow unfettered imports sans trade and non-trade barriers/ No. Hence, same should be denied here as well.

Etc.

Game theory says tit-for-tat is a rather good strategy when dealing with bullies, mercantilists, frenemies and the like.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby SSridhar » 03 Nov 2017 09:14

US cuts off Chinese bank over North Korea ties on eve of Trump's Asia tour - Straits Times
The United States excluded China's Bank of Dandong from its financial system on Thursday, alleging that it has helped North Korea evade financial sanctions to launder funds.

Washington had alerted other businesses in June that it planned to take the action, but it finally went into effect just as US President Donald Trump was to set off on an Asian tour.


The US leader has demanded that Beijing do more to push its neighbour North Korea to stop efforts to build a nuclear-armed missile capable of reaching American cities.

Trump will bring this message to President Xi Jinping in Beijing next week, but China is reluctant to push sanctions so far as to destabilise the Kim Jong Un regime.

Officials in Washington warn that, while they would prefer Kim to come to the table, Trump has not ruled out a pre-emptive strike to prevent him from crossing the missile threshold.

But, alongside this saber rattling, Washington is also slowly stepping up secondary sanctions on foreign institutions like the Bank of Dandong it accuses of funnelling illicit funds.

This risks angering China, but hawkish commentators argue that it remains the only way short of war to force Pyongyang, and perhaps more importantly Beijing, to reconsider their strategy.


"Banks and businesses worldwide should take note that they must be vigilant against attempts by North Korea to conduct illicit financing and trade," Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said.

Along with the ban on Bank of Dandong, the Treasury also issued new guidance to international banks' risk and compliance officers to help them spot North Korean attempts to infiltrate world finance.

Banks from China and around the world find it hard to operate if they are barred from the US financial system, which is a clearing house for most dollar-denominated transactions.

As well as the financial sanctions Washington may also decide to re-designate North Korea as a "state sponsor of terrorism" - a formal blacklist that would add to sanctions pressure.

Here, however, the Trump administration does not seem to be in a hurry, despite his anger over the death of US student Otto Warmbier after he was imprisoned and apparently brutalised in the North.


On Aug 2, Trump reluctantly enacted a law that was forced on him by the US Congress pressing for new economic and political sanctions against Iran, Russia and North Korea.

One clause of that act required the US State Department to say within 90 days whether North Korea should be named a terror sponsor - a deadline lawmakers say expired on Tuesday.

The State Department said it had calculated the deadline differently and was working toward a Thursday announcement, but as office hours came to an end there was no news.

Congressman Ted Poe, chairman of the House subcommittee on Terrorism, Nonproliferation and Trade, was unimpressed and followed up with the State Department to ask about the delay.

"To me, the very law is clear. The designation should have occurred by October 31," he said.

Earlier, at the White House, National Security Adviser HR McMaster had said the designation was still an option that is "under consideration" and that news would come "soon." And he cited the murder of Kim's half-brother Kim Jong Nam, who was attacked in February with VX nerve agent at a Malaysian airport, as one reason the regime might be deemed terrorist. {If that is a good enough reason to tag NoKO as a 'terror sponsor', Pakistan deserves it a zillion times more, doesn't it?}

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby SSridhar » 03 Nov 2017 09:30

Japan and that look in the eye - Ravi Velloor, Straits Times

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So, how would the man poised to be Japan's longest-serving post-war leader go about his mission?

THE NUCLEAR OPTION

Some clues are available.

A decade ago, New Delhi, which declines to sign the NPT, sent an envoy to Tokyo seeking Japanese endorsement for its bid to get a special waiver to be admitted into the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG). At the time, Foreign Minister Taro Aso solemnly read out a long brief detailing why Japan could not sign on to the waiver without India signing the NPT as a non-nuclear weapon state and adhering to the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty. Mr Aso also referred to strong public opinion in Japan against nuclear weapons.

As recounted by former Indian foreign secretary Shyam Saran, Mr Aso, having delivered the formal brief, then walked Mr Saran to the lift and conveyed that he was under instructions from Mr Abe to let India know that while Japan may have to "make a lot of noise" at the NSG, it would not oppose a consensus in favour of India.

For Japan, the necessary adjustments will need to come in small doses as it prepares itself and its neighbourhood for the change. As a recent Reuters report suggested, the first of those steps could come as a tweaking of its "Three Principles" adopted five decades ago: Not to possess, manufacture or allow nuclear weapons onto its territory.

"Perhaps it's time for our three principles to become two," a senior defence policymaker told Reuters, suggesting that nuclear weapons be allowed into Japan, perhaps in the form of a US nuclear-armed submarine to operate from one of the bases in the country.

Already, in nearby South Korea, polls show that more than two-thirds of the people want the United States to bring back tactical nuclear weapons for battlefield use - weapons that had been withdrawn from the theatre in an earlier era. Can Japan be that far behind?

Few doubt that Japan has the know-how and the atomic material to build a credible atomic arsenal at short notice. Putting that information out in the open and getting its people to accept that the country is a nuclear weapon state is the challenge.

For now, the official word is that Japan would like to do nothing that would exacerbate the tensions in the region, as going nuclear definitely would.

Still, the provocations are rising. In mid-September, North Korea said "the four islands of the archipelago should be sunken into the sea by the nuclear bomb of Juche". Japan, the statement from Pyongyang said, no longer needs "to exist near us".

North Korea is but one issue. Worries about the durability of the American nuclear umbrella, under which it has operated for so many decades now, have been mounting since Mr Barack Obama occupied the Oval Office, and even more under its current incumbent, the very transactional Mr Donald Trump.

Japan likes to project the US relationship, now elevated by the seemingly close Abe-Trump personal relationship, as hunky-dory. In truth, there is massive worry in Tokyo about a Sino-US deal that could hurt its interests.


Its response has been to employ several hedging strategies, one of which was an outreach to Chinese President Xi Jinping in May when Mr Abe asked one of his most trusted political allies, Liberal Democratic Party secretary-general Toshihiro Nikai, to carry a personal letter to Mr Xi. A Sino-Japanese summit is within the realm of possibility.

THE CHINA QUESTION

Yet, Japan is aware that as China's comprehensive power rises - six years ago, China passed Japan in gross domestic product to become the No. 2 economy after the US - Washington's reluctance to confront Beijing, already in evidence after China reneged on a promise to not militarise the islands it has built in the South China Sea, is only set to grow. Indeed, at China's recent party congress, Mr Xi even highlighted the build-up in the South China Sea as a major achievement of his first term.

All this leaves Tokyo with few options at the end of the day but to set itself more fully on the road to "normalcy" - if nothing else, to preserve its credibility and clout in Asia. Besides, to accept subordination would go against the core of what it means to be Japanese.

As the distinguished Singapore diplomat Bilahari Kausikan noted recently, ever since Toyotomi Hideyoshi defied the Chinese world order of the time to invade Korea in the 16th century, refusal to accept subordination to China has been integral to the Japanese sense of identity.

Evidence of this was available at the Manila meeting of East Asia Summit foreign ministers three months ago, when Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi publicly chided his Japanese counterpart Taro Kono for criticising the South China Sea construction, saying he was acting like an American stooge. Mr Kono, who had been in the job for less than a week, countered that "it is necessary for China to learn how to behave as a major power".


Japan's China outreach, while welcome, is surely then to be regarded as more tactical than strategic. China, meanwhile, has been making its own tactical adjustments; while increasing its patrols in the East China Sea, it has toned down the aggression of those manoeuvres, thus avoiding incidents as happened in 2013 when Japanese ships turned on their fire-control radars against approaching Chinese craft.

. . . .

As for America, it will likely not stand in Japan's way, never mind its past opposition to Japan and South Korea building up nuclear arsenals. In the 1970s, then President Richard Nixon was fully aware that the honeymoon period with China, initiated by the Henry Kissinger-led opening to Beijing, would probably last no more than 20 years, yet he went along anyway in the larger interest of containing the Soviets. The current preoccupation is China.

A Japan stirring to life on the strategic front will cause excessively aggressive or assertive powers to pause and ponder. At the war museum adjacent to Yasukuni Shrine in Tokyo, there is a short video clip of a battlefield ceremony where an officer is seen distributing water in place of sake to young soldiers poised to say farewell to life. The look in the eyes of the young soldiers shows no fear.

It is that look in the eye that Asia needs to be wary of, and which anyone needling Japan into acquiring it must take responsibility for, whether he resides in Pyongyang, Beijing or elsewhere.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Philip » 03 Nov 2017 10:07

US trade deficit with China some $350B+? Trump has his work cut out.Watch XI Gins leverage NoKo into the equation!

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby TKiran » 03 Nov 2017 12:08

MEA not only should claim GB, but also should oppose CPEC in no uncertain terms. Very very clear statements which cannot be interpreted in any other manner, if need be use more words like our shiv sir when makes his point.

Also flip-flop should be eliminated completely.

It was totally unnecessary for MEA India to say "we are okay with connectivity". That statement eventhough well intended, could be actually read as India is OK with CPEC. It was total failure of English language use of babus in MEA.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby SSridhar » 03 Nov 2017 14:19

Ready to work with India to promote bilateral relations: China - PTI
China today said it was ready to work with India to promote "constant progress" of bilateral relations, amid fresh strains in ties after Beijing again blocked Pakistan-based JeM chief Masood Azhar's designation as a global terrorist by the UN.

China yesterday for the fourth time blocked India, the US and other nations' bid to list Pathankot terror attack mastermind Azhar as a global terrorist, saying "there is no consensus" within the members of the sanctions committee.

India reacted sharply to China's move, saying "accommodating with terrorism" for narrow objectives was both short-sighted and counterproductive.

China's Assistant Foreign Minister Chen Xiaodong today told the media that China attached great importance to its relations with India.

"India is an important neighbour of China," Chen said, adding China plans to step up ties with neighbours under the "neighbourhood diplomacy with Chinese characteristics in the new era" enunciated by President Xi Jinping during the recently concluded key Congress of the ruling Communist Party of China (CPC).


"We are ready to work with India to promote constant progress of bilateral relations guided by this diplomacy with Chinese characteristics for the new era," Chen said without elaborating.

He said China has been following this concept and vision over the past few years in its cooperation with the neighbours and deepening mutual political trust promoting practical cooperation with them.


Officials here [Beijing] said Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi will travel to India next month to New Delhi to attend the Russia, India, China (RIC) Foreign Ministers meeting during which he would also hold talks with the Indian leadership on the bilateral relations during the second term of Xi.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Arjun » 03 Nov 2017 14:53

India reacted sharply to China's move, saying "accommodating with terrorism" for narrow objectives was both short-sighted and counterproductive.

Yeah....that was real sharp - calling China's move 'short-sighted and counter-productive' :rotfl:

This government is just pussy-footing around and does not seem to have the intellectual horsepower to deal with China. It should have come out forcefully and named China as a terrorist sponsor. Where is the explicit disawoval of CPEC - I don't see that as well !!

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby abhik » 03 Nov 2017 17:31

Does PRC still issue stapled visas to AP residents?

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Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Peregrine » 03 Nov 2017 18:01

India, Beijing need to be confident to make things work: Chinese consul general

SANTINIKETAN (WB): India-China relations are not going to be a walk in the park, but the two nations need to have the confidence to make things work, Chinese Consul General in Kolkata, Ma Zhanwu said on Friday.

Speaking at the inaugural session to commemorate the 80th anniversary of Cheena Bhavana here, he said the "differences" between the two countries were outweighed by their shared interest and trust.

Calling for a new impetus in the bilateral relations, Ma said, "China-India relationship is not going to be a walk in the park. It is going to be difficult with ups and downs. However, we need to have confidence that we can do it".

Quoting a recent statement of Chinese President Xi Jinping, he said his country did not pose a threat to any other nation, and "certainly not India".

"Our president had said China will never seek hegemony or engage in expansion, and will not pose any threat to anybody," he said.Chinaman speak with forked tongue!

Describing China as a "modern, prosperous, socialist and democratic" country, Ma said it wants to make its relationship with India most vibrant one.

"We need to aim high. We need to have mutual trust. We need to hear from the other side as well," the Chinese diplomat said.

Ma also asked the media to play a key role in bolstering ties between the two nations.

"Talk more of great nations and less of conflicts," he said.

Hailing the two-day conference to mark the 80th anniversary of Cheena Bhavana, he said over 70 scholars from China were attending the meet for which preparations had begun one-and-a-half years back.

The Cheena Bhavana (Institute of Chinese Language and Culture) at Visva Bharati University was founded by Rabindranath Tagore in April, 1937.

Stressing the need to realise Tagore's vision for the institute, he said, "There should be more interaction in boosting China-India relations. We need to focus on economic development and political relations as part of our study".

The Consul General lamented that there were many interpreters of Chinese language from countries like Canada, but very few from India.

"We need to look at our immediate neighbours. This is true for both nations," he said.

Ma also advocated the introduction of Chinese learning course from junior level in India, and Hindi and other Indian language courses in China.

Talking about Cheena Bhavana retaining its heritage, acting Vice Chancellor of the varsity, Swapan Dutta, said, "We have kept the building design intact, and will never tinker with these things. However, we are modernising the lab with interactive audio and video

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby SSridhar » 03 Nov 2017 18:10

^ Did the Consul say China is a 'democratic' country? Did the reporter hear it right?

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Peregrine » 03 Nov 2017 18:11

SSridhar wrote:Ready to work with India to promote bilateral relations: China - PTI
China today said it was ready to work with India to promote "constant progress" of bilateral relations, amid fresh strains in ties after Beijing again blocked Pakistan-based JeM chief Masood Azhar's designation as a global terrorist by the UN.

China yesterday for the fourth time blocked India, the US and other nations' bid to list Pathankot terror attack mastermind Azhar as a global terrorist, saying "there is no consensus" within the members of the sanctions committee.

India reacted sharply to China's move, saying "accommodating with terrorism" for narrow objectives was both short-sighted and counterproductive.

China's Assistant Foreign Minister Chen Xiaodong today told the media that China attached great importance to its relations with India.

"India is an important neighbour of China," Chen said, adding China plans to step up ties with neighbours under the "neighbourhood diplomacy with Chinese characteristics in the new era" enunciated by President Xi Jinping during the recently concluded key Congress of the ruling Communist Party of China (CPC).


"We are ready to work with India to promote constant progress of bilateral relations guided by this diplomacy with Chinese characteristics for the new era," Chen said without elaborating.

He said China has been following this concept and vision over the past few years in its cooperation with the neighbours and deepening mutual political trust promoting practical cooperation with them.


Officials here [Beijing] said Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi will travel to India next month to New Delhi to attend the Russia, India, China (RIC) Foreign Ministers meeting during which he would also hold talks with the Indian leadership on the bilateral relations during the second term of Xi.
SSridhar Ji :

What does China's Assistant Foreign Minister Chen Xiaodong mean when he says "to promote constant progress of bilateral relations guided by this diplomacy with Chinese characteristics for the new era,"?

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby SSridhar » 03 Nov 2017 19:10

Peregrine wrote:What does China's Assistant Foreign Minister Chen Xiaodong mean when he says "to promote constant progress of bilateral relations guided by this diplomacy with Chinese characteristics for the new era,"?

Peregrine ji, after Xi Jinping's theoretical work of “Four Comprehensives” was discussed and incorporated into CPC's Constitution as “Xi Jinping Thought on Socialism with Chinese Characteristics for a New Era”, every party leader, member and bureaucrat has to add the suffix "with Chinese Characteristics for a New Era" in whatever they say and do.

When they do their morning ablutions, it is also "with Chinese Characteristics for a New Era". Whenever they fart, it is the same.

This Xi Jinping Thought is a complete fraud perpetrated on the Party and the People through strong arm methods just like how Mao inflicted his Great Leap Forward and then Cultural Revolution to cover up the follies and atrocities of the former with even bigger atrocities of the latter. Xi Jinping's Thoughts are indeed a hotch-potch of what Deng, Jiang & Hu did. This is no revolutionary Marxian theoretical work.

During Cultural Revolution days, everybody had to carry the little Red Book 24X7 just in order to survive. Otherwise, he/she would be wajib-ul-qitl bourgeois reactionary. Similarly now, everything must be suffixed by "with Chinese Characteristics for a New Era". Otherwise Wang Qishan’s successor, Zhao Leji of CCDI (Central Committee for Discipline Inspection), would descend on them and they would be stripped of job, party position and incarcerated.

All regulated societies have such 'disciplining' things. One can find close parallels between China and all Islamist countries in the approach to shepherding the masses.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby VKumar » 03 Nov 2017 20:09

TKiran wrote:Sorry for OT, but Pakistan is like a brother who has taken on drinking, womanizing, chori, dakaithee, murder, rape etc, so, we have to be hesitant to take action, try being optimistic eventhough only a miracle only can save such a brother, but still you don't want to call such a brother names, there's nothing wrong in hoping that one day, we will assimilate the real estate of Pakistan without its subjects,

But with funny yellow Han, we need not be apolegetic at all. We don't need to show any inhibitions in bloodying their nose, door door tak ka koi vaasta nahin...


Never heard of a brother who is raping and murdering in own family. Please keep such sentiments away.

TSP is like open gutter flowing outside my house. Why will I want to include it in my property? Rather I would cover it so the stench doesn't flow into my house, and forget about it.

There is absolutely no room for sentiments here. Ask those whose blood has been shed.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby dinesh_kimar » 03 Nov 2017 20:19

^ China can fool with us and protect Masood Azhar. We don't have a stick to beat them with. They have a number of weak spots - restive provinces teeming with fine upstanding islamic law abiding types , Tibet , internal conflicts due to communist ideology, people displaced due to lop sided growth, greedy citizens, various fly by night operators, etc. They are surrounded by hotspots / arms bazaars such as Thailand, Burma, Chittagong and Borneo. Surely some Singhaesque character with imagination and effort can make a difference.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby SSridhar » 03 Nov 2017 20:47

Only 12% Chinese have freshwater access, diversion of Tibet rivers imminent: Lobsang Sangay - Economic Times
Lobsang Sangay, the president of Central Tibetan administration in exile, today said that diversion of rivers in Tibet is imminent as China has a pressing need to provide water to its dry regions.

China has denied reports that it is constructing a 1000-km-long tunnel to divert the Brahmaputra river, known as Yarlung Tsangpo in Tibet.

Sangay, who was in Guwahati to attend a programme, said that the international community must take up the case with China so that the people of Tibet have a say in the development of Chinese projects.

Tibetan plateau is known as ‘Water tower’ of Asia.

He said that only 12 per cent of people in China have access to fresh water. "The prospect of diverting water from the rivers of Tibet which is known as the water tower of Asia looms as a large part of China is facing water crisis. If this happens, nearly 1.4 billion people who are dependent on water from rivers originating in Tibet including Brahmaputra, will be in great danger," he said.

Sangay said China is under pressure to address its water shortage, which is why a diversion of rivers could be imminent. This is likely to result in serious environmental concerns for countries dependent on Tibetan rivers for water.

A large number of rivers originate from Himalayan glaciers. Even many environmental scientist in China have expressed concerns about the fragile nature of Tibet’s ecosystem.

Sangay said, "Studies suggest that Tibet’s 46,000 glaciers are likely to get reduced in volume to 50 per cent by 2100 because of global warming."

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby chola » 03 Nov 2017 20:50

VKumar wrote:
TKiran wrote:Sorry for OT, but Pakistan is like a brother who has taken on drinking, womanizing, chori, dakaithee, murder, rape etc, so, we have to be hesitant to take action, try being optimistic eventhough only a miracle only can save such a brother, but still you don't want to call such a brother names, there's nothing wrong in hoping that one day, we will assimilate the real estate of Pakistan without its subjects,

But with funny yellow Han, we need not be apolegetic at all. We don't need to show any inhibitions in bloodying their nose, door door tak ka koi vaasta nahin...


Never heard of a brother who is raping and murdering in own family. Please keep such sentiments away.

TSP is like open gutter flowing outside my house. Why will I want to include it in my property? Rather I would cover it so the stench doesn't flow into my house, and forget about it.

There is absolutely no room for sentiments here. Ask those whose blood has been shed.


We would be far safer if our “brothers” were hanified into pork-eating, saki-swilling, shop-keeping athiests whose daughters and sisters wear bikinis at beaches.

We should stop OBOR but not necessarily CPEC. POK is the POK because the pakis hold it so it is already a loss. Let the Lizard porkify the TFTA!

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Postby ArjunPandit » 03 Nov 2017 20:54

TKiran wrote:Sorry for OT, but Pakistan is like a brother who has taken on drinking, womanizing, chori, dakaithee, murder, rape etc, so, we have to be hesitant to take action, try being optimistic eventhough only a miracle only can save such a brother, but still you don't want to call such a brother names, there's nothing wrong in hoping that one day, we will assimilate the real estate of Pakistan without its subjects,

But with funny yellow Han, we need not be apolegetic at all. We don't need to show any inhibitions in bloodying their nose, door door tak ka koi vaasta nahin...

I am sure this post of yours 'will be recorded for training and reference purposes' as an evidence for your pakpasandness.

The fact is they are not raping anyone else, they are the brother that is raping our wives and daughters. This brother has acted in ways very similar to baali in ramayan. We all know what sugreev did to to Bali with help of ShriRam.
Pak and China after CPEC are the same evil with two different faces now. If our kootnigyas are smart, then they will formulate a joint strategy to attack and tackle them

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Postby TKiran » 03 Nov 2017 22:02

Even if CPEC becomes a reality, it will be like how India was ruled by the British, 1 Han per 1lakh subjects, Pakis will never loose their pakiness.

I strongly believe that there needs to be different strategies for Pakis and Han. The end game should be to assimilate paki real estate into India, and do a Bangladesh to Tibet.

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Postby Peregrine » 04 Nov 2017 00:47

TKiran wrote:Sorry for OT, but Pakistan is like a brother who has taken on drinking, womanizing, chori, dakaithee, murder, rape etc, so, we have to be hesitant to take action, try being optimistic eventhough only a miracle only can save such a brother, but still you don't want to call such a brother names, there's nothing wrong in hoping that one day, we will assimilate the real estate of Pakistan without its subjects,

But with funny yellow Han, we need not be apolegetic at all. We don't need to show any inhibitions in bloodying their nose, door door tak ka koi vaasta nahin...
TKiran Ji :
With respect this "Brotherly" thought-mentality is actually part of the Lutyenian Brigade, The Wagah Kandle Kissers, The Sickular Fools etc. who will live in Hope and Die in Despair and you, my Dear Sir, are neither one of these or their Ilk.

So be assured India will never take the Real Estate of Terroristan without its subject as the Subjects are a "Pox" on Humanity and not only on the Hindus! Which Nation will accept the Poxed Terroristanis? Which Indeed!

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Postby SSridhar » 04 Nov 2017 12:33

Promote peace, Xi Jinping tells soldiers at first overseas base - Straits Times
Troops serving at China's first overseas military base, in the Horn of Africa country of Djibouti, should help promote peace and stability, President Xi Jinping told them in a video chat, encouraging them to promote a good image.

China formally opened the base in August on the same day as the People's Liberation Army marked its 90th birthday.

It is China's first overseas naval base, although Beijing officially describes it as a logistics facility.

Djibouti's position on the northwestern edge of the Indian Ocean has fuelled worry in India that it would become another of China's "string of pearls" military alliances and assets ringing India, including Bangladesh, Myanmar and Sri Lanka.

Speaking to China's Djibouti-based forces during a visit to a joint battle command centre in Beijing, Xi "got a good understanding" of the base's operations and the lives of the soldiers there, China's Defence Ministry said late on Friday.

Xi "encouraged them to establish a good image for China's military and promote international and regional peace and stability", the ministry said.

The soldiers responded that they would not let Xi or China down, it said.

China began construction of the base in Djibouti last year.

It will be used to resupply navy ships taking part in peacekeeping and humanitarian missions off the coasts of Yemen and Somalia, in particular.

President Xi Jinping is overseeing an ambitious military modernisation programme, including developing capabilities for China's forces to operate far from home.

During his visit to the command centre, Xi also instructed the armed forces to improve their combat capability and readiness for war, the ministry said.

Xi said progress in joint operation command systems, especially in efficiency at the regional level, was needed and troops must conduct training under combat conditions.

Djibouti, which is about the size of Wales, is at the southern entrance to the Red Sea on the route to the Suez Canal.

The tiny, barren nation sandwiched between Ethiopia, Eritrea and Somalia also hosts US, Japanese and French bases.

There has been persistent speculation in diplomatic circles that China would build other such bases, in Pakistan for example, but the government has dismissed this.

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Postby SSridhar » 04 Nov 2017 17:00

Has India kicked off a trade war with China? Here are 5 signs - Economic Times
The Doklam conflict between India and China may not have triggered a border war but it might have launched a trade war. Or so it seems. India recently put restrictions on the import of Chinese goods. Many of these restrictions are being seen in the Doklam context.

These restrictions can at best be annoying for China since its exports to India account for only 2 per cent of its total exports. Yet, these restrictions will serve as a warning to China, indicating India's hardened posture. The Doklam conflict has raised India's apprehensions about China's hidden motives.

Below are a few items/sectors where India has restricted Chinese imports.

Toys

Toy imports from China have dropped to less than a half, according to industry estimates, since the government introduced tough quality criteria and mandated certification of compliance by accredited agencies from September 1.

A notification issued by Director General of Foreign Trade on September 1 prescribed criteria for physical and mechanical properties, chemical content, flammability, and testing for indoor and outdoor toys for both electrically and mechanically operated ones. The notification said import of toys would be permitted freely only if the manufacturer abided by the Bureau of Indian Standards benchmarks. Chinese toys account for an estimated 70 per cent of India’s Rs 5,000-crore toy industry.

Tempered glass

India has imposed anti-dumping duty also on tempered glass, which is used for protecting mobile phone screens, from China for five years to protect the domestic industry from below-cost imports. Investigations by the Directorate General of Anti-Dumping and Allied Duties (DGAD) had found that tempered glass had been exported to India from China below its associated normal value. Also, it concluded that domestic industry had suffered material injury which was caused by the dumped imports of the goods from China.

Tyres

Anti-dumping duty has been imposed on import of certain type of radial tyres used in buses and trucks to protect domestic manufacturers from below cost shipments from China for five years. Automotive Tyre Manufacturers’ Association had filed an application on behalf of the domestic producers and had demanded investigation in dumping of tyres. The government said the domestic industry had suffered material injury on account of the imports from China. It found that the tyres had been exported to India from the subject country “below normal value”.

Power

Chinese firms are on target in the power sector too. The Central Electricity Authority (CEA) recently prepared a report in which it set new conditions for firms bidding for power transmission contracts, tipping the scales in favour of local companies. Power sector is dominated by Chinese firms such as Harbin Electric, Dongfang Electronics, Shanghai Electric and Sifang Automation which supply equipment or manage power distribution.
A high-level panel will look at possible checks on foreign firms investing in the Indian power sector, a move aimed at preventing cyber attacks on the electricity grid. This comes about two months after the eastern electricity grid suffered a malware attack, allegedly from China.

Overseas firms eyeing investments in power plants in the country may have to undergo security clearances and may be mandated to employ majority Indian nationals including at top managerial positions, a senior government official said. The panel will consider the recommendations that CEA made.

Telecom

In August, the Ministry of Electronics and IT directed 21 smartphone makers, most of which are Chinese, to inform it about the procedures and processes they follow to ensure the security of mobile phones sold in India, following reports of data leakage and theft
The government officials didn’t directly link the government move to India’s latest border tensions with China, but industry insiders noted the move came amid continuing standoff between the two nations’ armies at Dokalam.
Also, there is rising concern over imports of IT and telecom products from China on the grounds that much of it may be used to gain unlawful access to critical information with many Chinese manufacturers having their servers in their home country.

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Postby Bart S » 04 Nov 2017 19:15

Peregrine wrote:
TKiran wrote:Sorry for OT, but Pakistan is like a brother who has taken on drinking, womanizing, chori, dakaithee, murder, rape etc, so, we have to be hesitant to take action, try being optimistic eventhough only a miracle only can save such a brother, but still you don't want to call such a brother names, there's nothing wrong in hoping that one day, we will assimilate the real estate of Pakistan without its subjects,

But with funny yellow Han, we need not be apolegetic at all. We don't need to show any inhibitions in bloodying their nose, door door tak ka koi vaasta nahin...
TKiran Ji :
With respect this "Brotherly" thought-mentality is actually part of the Lutyenian Brigade, The Wagah Kandle Kissers, The Sickular Fools etc. who will live in Hope and Die in Despair and you, my Dear Sir, are neither one of these or their Ilk.

So be assured India will never take the Real Estate of Terroristan without its subject as the Subjects are a "Pox" on Humanity and not only on the Hindus! Which Nation will accept the Poxed Terroristanis? Which Indeed!

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A more apt analogy would be from the Lord of the Rings, Pakis were once Hobbits/Shirefolk who over the years morphed into Gollum. There are still a few folks in India like Frodo who feel some sympathy/pity for them but as more and more people are realizing, the process is a one-way and irreversible one, and Pakistan is on a slow but steady march to ending up in the fires of Mount Doom.

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Postby TKiran » 04 Nov 2017 20:19

^^^sirs, I don't have any sympathy for Pakis, it's strategic.

India has natural borders, hindukush, Himalayas​to the north and seas all around, Baluchistan and Sindh is unresolved agenda for India yet.

There's huge difference between personal life and state. In personal life we are all mortals, but states remain for ever. People say even Mao died, ozymandias died "whose frown and wrinkled lips and sneer of cold cold command" ultimately had to die but his work " look on my work e mighty and despair" stayed.

You may also say xi is just a mortal but I disagree, he is the king with agenda. He may not completely succeed but even 10% success has huge impact for several decades.

What makes Mao or Xi special is their vision as kings.

For India it doesn't matter what Han achieve in their truncated Hanisthan after Tibet is liberated, but with Tibet in their hands, they want to occupy the lands which are historically India.

India also should have a vision of assimilation of Pakistan and liberation of Tibet as the goals. That's the only natural balance.

We can still live with Pakistan as a separate entity even if it's too spoilt, but acts on it's own strength. But when Han are hell bent on world domination and they want to colonize Indian land, the gloves are off. That was what I was trying to convey, but it's giving a wrong impression that I have sympathy for Pakis. Even in personal life, brotherly doesn't mean "sympathy", some gave good example of vaali, still sugreeva made Angada the crown Prince, son of vaali.

Only Han don't understand the meaning of "brotherly", they think brotherly means a lot of love and fun, single children never understand the feelings of brothers, but we should be able to.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby periaswamy » 04 Nov 2017 20:28

TKiran, are you trying to destroy this thread with repeated invocations of Pakistan as some sort of a "brotherly country that has lost its way"? Can you just stick to China without bringing pakistan into it? Do Try.

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Postby Peregrine » 04 Nov 2017 21:50

TKiran Ji : Your Post 04 Nov 2017 20:19

TKiran Ji : I shall endeavour utmost to make this as my last comment on the discussion(s) we have had.

The Terroristan Population – at least the 97% of the total Population – has been “Totally Brain Washed” especially the followers of the World’s Only Religion of Peace in the Land of the Pure and Home of the Terrorists. This task was comparatively easily achieved by empowering the Religious Leadership as well as depriving Educations to the overwhelming Large Majority of the Muslims.

As such we need to keep the Terroristani Muslims totally isolated wrt India and ONLY ALLOW RELIGIOUS TOURISM between India and Pakistan. Basta!

I suggest you understand that the Terroristani Aam Abdul practitioners of the World’s Only Religion of Peace cannot be trusted as far as you can throw them. India must have nothing to do with them. India must stop having any Cultural-Social, People-to-People etc. Visits – Nothing. Zilch. Any Indian marrying a Terroristani - except those of the Non-Muslim Minorities should loose Indian Citizens immediately - if not earlier.

May be in a Hundred Years or so – I do not vouch for any other Member of this Forum but I assure you I will not be around then – Indians of that time can take Baby Steps to normalize relations with Terroristan to the extent that there are NO MORE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS FROM Terroristan, Bangladesh and Myanmar. NO IFS & NO BUTS!

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Postby Peregrine » 04 Nov 2017 22:09

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China's answer to anthem disrespect: Up to 3 years in prison

BEIJING: China's rubber-stamp legislature on Saturday made disrespecting the national anthem a criminal offense punishable by up to three years in prison amid rising nationalist appeals from the ruling Communist Party under the leadership of President Xi Jinping.

The Standing Committee of the National People's Congress passed an amendment to the country's criminal law outlining punishments for people found "seriously" disrespecting the national anthem in public.

The move follows Xi's appointment to a second five-year term as party leader, for which he has touted a vision of achieving a "Chinese Dream" of a powerful, prosperous nation. It also comes as the anthem, "March of the Volunteers," has in recent months been a political flashpoint in the southern Chinese city of Hong Kong, where tensions are rising over Beijing's efforts to assert its authority over the territory.

According to the amendment passed Saturday in Beijing, penalties include detention, imprisonment of up to three years and the deprivation of political rights. Such punishments previously applied to the desecration of the national flag and emblem in public, China's official Xinhua News Agency reported.

The legislature also moved to apply a separate, recently passed law on the national anthem to Hong Kong and Macau, Chinese semiautonomous regions with separate legal systems.

Soccer fans in Hong Kong have booed the anthem when it's played at games between the home team and teams from China or other countries, leading to fines from FIFA, the sport's governing body. Pro-democracy activists and lawmakers fear a national anthem law could be used to undermine freedom of speech in Hong Kong.

The National Anthem Law, which came into effect in October, stated that playing the anthem on occasions deemed improper, including funerals, or for changing its wording or presenting it in a disrespectful manner could be punished with 15 days in detention. China's legislature adopted a decision to include the law in Hong Kong's and Macau's mini-constitutions, known in each territory as the Basic Law.

Xinhua cited Zhang Rongshun, deputy director of the Legislative Affairs Commission of the top parliamentary body, as saying it was "urgent and important" to apply the anthem law in Hong Kong to address recent incidents.

"In recent years, incidents of disrespecting the national anthem had occurred in Hong Kong, challenging the bottom line of the principle of `one country, two systems' and social morality, and triggering rage among Chinese, including most Hong Kong residents," Zhang said.

Since his appointment as party leader in 2012, Xi has established a growing cult of personality that leans heavily on his image as a patriotic leader who brooks no slight to national dignity. Hallmarks of his term in office have included a stronger military, bolder foreign policy and aggressive economic expansion abroad, as well as sharply reduced space for criticism or political dissent at home.

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Postby Peregrine » 04 Nov 2017 22:29

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China world's biggest prison for journalists, India better than Pakistan: Report

China, where the media is under strict state-control, has been ranked 176 of the 180 countries included in the report.

New Delhi: China fared poorly in the 2017 World Press Freedom Index prepared by Reporters Without Borders (RSF) and was deemed as the country with the most number of journalists behind bars. The country was also rated one of the most dangerous for journalists.

China, where the media is under strict state-control, has been ranked 176 of the 180 countries included in the report. Even Vietnam - another country with a high number of jailed journalists - fares marginally better and is ranked 175.

In the same report, India fares better than Pakistan and is placed 136th - three ranks above its neighbour where killing by terrorists and mafia has emerged as a massive threat. However, although the New York-based Committee to Protect Journalists has listed 60 journalists who have been killed in Pakistan since 1994, the country does not make it to the 'Most Dangerous' list.

On expected lines, North Korea is ranked last at 180 while war-ravaged Syria is at 177 - one rank worse than China.

On the other end of the report are the Scandinavian countries of Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark which make the top-five, along with The Netherlands.

So, how is the list of most dangerous countries for journalists prepared. Following is what the website of Reporters Without Borders says:

The degree of freedom available to journalists in 180 countries is determined by pooling the responses of experts to a questionnaire devised by RSF. This qualitative analysis is combined with quantitative data on abuses and acts of violence against journalists during the period evaluated. The criteria evaluated in the questionnaire are pluralism, media independence, media environment and self-censorship, legislative framework, transparency, and the quality of the infrastructure that supports the production of news and information.

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Postby Peregrine » 05 Nov 2017 01:51

The Big Picture

If Xi Jinping wants China to be accepted as a global leader, he needs to revise his aggressive diplomacy

The anointment of President Xi Jinping as the ‘core leader’ in the recently concluded 19th Chinese Communist Party congress, and by enshrining his thoughts on “Socialism with Chinese characteristics in a new era” in the party’s constitution, Jinping has elevated himself to the exalted status of Chairman Mao Zedong. Like the Little Red Book, Jinping’s thoughts have now been made compulsory reading for Chinese students, government officials and party functionaries.

Jinping, before the convention of the congress, where his elevation was a foregone conclusion, had systematically purged all his potential rivals. His Machiavellian statecraft had ensured that he had a vice-like grip over the party. Added to this, by not naming his successor, he has ensured complete support for his supremacy in the party. This has, in a way, put an end to the collective leadership the party has been following for the running of the country.

Today, China under his leadership has emerged stronger, both economically and politically. In the leaders’ column published in The Economist, Jinping has been described ‘as the dominant engine of global growth’. He was also described ‘as an apostle of peace and friendship, a voice of reason in a confused and troubled world’.

China’s economic and military clout has ensured that Xi is one of the most influential leaders of the world.

Another aspect of the growing Chinese clout can be seen the way they have invested trillions of dollars in the One Belt, One Road (OBOR) project. China is investing heavily in Pakistan and other countries falling in the old silk route, which will help speed up the economic development of these countries. OBOR is one of the largest and dominant initiatives that straddle through both economics and geopolitics.

However, in spite of the growing influence on the world stage, many countries like Japan, India, South Korea and many South East Asian countries have been wary of China. China’s aggressive policy in developing its military base over the disputed territories falling in the nine-dash line in the South China Sea, ignoring the several competing claims of smaller countries, has caused unrest in the region.

Recently, China unilaterally started building a road in the disputed Doklam plateau, of which Bhutan is also a claimant, by sidestepping the understanding it has with the country that they would maintain status quo in the region till the settlement of the dispute. Fearful of the Chinese expansionist policies in the region, Bhutan approached India for help in terms of an agreement with the country that it would protect Bhutan’s interests. It was India’s timely intervention by sending troops to the Doklam plateau which forced China to halt its activities.

One can think of two examples of the expansionist policy of China overriding the legitimate concerns of the parties to the dispute. First, the illegal building of roads in the Doklam plateau; and second, where Bhutan is a party to the dispute. In spite of the propaganda blitzkrieg launched by China via its print and electronic media, accusing India for its aggression in the Doklam plateau and warning India of severe consequences if it failed to withdraw its forces from the disputed territory, India had remained firm in its position and refused to be cowed down against any intense pressure by China. Many of the countries, including Russia who has close ties with China, preferred to remain neutral. They, in fact, advised China to settle the dispute through dialogue.

Another example is China’s refusal to accept the verdict of the Permanent Court of Arbitration, in a case brought up by Philippines over the illegal construction activities in the Scarborough reefs and shoals. Interestingly, China is a signatory of the United Nations Convention on the Law of Sea, which had established the tribunal to adjudicate the dispute. As expected, China has refused to accept the verdict of the tribunal by claiming that these islands and shoals were once part of the Ming dynasty. This ruling will now embolden Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei, Taiwan, Philippines and Indonesia, who have an on-going dispute with China over its claims on Paracel and Spratly Islands. This verdict will now encourage the parties to the dispute in approaching the Permanent Arbitration Board for justice.

China’s aggression of riding roughshod over the claims of other countries in the nine-dash line has mainly been due to the waning influence of the US, under the presidency of Donald Trump, in the region. Most of these countries that have dispute over the territorial claims of China are not sure of the potential outcome as a result of a conflict with China. It is for this reason that some of the claimants have preferred to negotiate directly with China to settle the disputes, as it feels that the US can no longer be trusted to back them in the event of a conflict with China.

China, on its part, though, has agreed to negotiate directly with the Philippines, Malaysia and Vietnam through dialogue, to extinguish any US intervention. However, recent satellite images show that China is continuing with major expansion of runways, ports and airport facilities in the disputed islands. Being well-versed in Chinese history, it can be said that the country has never known to renounce its claims over territories that are under dispute. Therefore, it is unlikely that China would agree to any compromise over its claims over the Paracel, Spratly Islands and Scarborough shoals.

China’s other neighbours, especially Japan, India, South Korea and South East Asian nations are already bearing the brunt of Beijing’s recidivist policies. In the case of India, it is wary of the rise of China, both militarily and economically. It is for this reason that it has decided to upgrade its military hardware. India had also successfully averted a potential war over the Doklam plateau by physically stopping the Chinese from building roads in the disputed territory.

China has also realised that India, under the leadership of Narendra Modi, unlike other countries, can’t be pushed over. It is for this reason that it decided to diffuse the tension in the region.

Jinping, backed by a strong political and economic might, is striving to become a global leader. He wants to step in the shoes of the US president, who has ensured that the US no longer enjoys the leadership it enjoyed under various presidents. If Jinping wants China to be accepted as a global leader, he needs to recalibrate the aggressive foreign policy of settling its disputes peacefully with all its neighbours in a spirit of mutual accommodation.

Today, China has emerged as one of the fastest growing economies of the world, with the potential of displacing the US economy by 2050. However, its aggressive foreign policy may come in the way of being accepted as a global leader. One would have hoped the Doklam standoff with India would have taught them a few lessons in international relations.

India, on its part, should reconsider its refusal to join the OBOR project. If it has any genuine apprehension, it should engage with China to clear any doubts it may have over the project. This would go a long way in strengthening its bilateral relations. Moreover, India should also be wary of joining any axis to counter China as it may not be beneficial to it, as we have seen from the past that the US can’t be depended on to support its cause.

Lately, the US has expressed its willingness to supply F-16 and F-18 aircrafts, and has shown interest to upgrade India’s military hardware. However, looking at the past US approach, where they had steadfastly refused to provide state-of-the-art military hardware and fighter planes, one is not sure that this time the US will come to India’s rescue to modernising its army, air force and navy. Even if they agree to supply F-16 and F-18 fighter jets, such assistance may come at a heavy cost, which India can ill afford.

India should also pursue a two-pronged approach in its foreign policy while dealing with China. First, it should continue to engage with the US and impress the leadership to play an active role in the region, so that China can be kept in check. However, at the same time, India should also strive to improve its relations with China to avoid any potential conflict. Such a policy will go a long way in diverting its precious resources for nation-building activities.

If China aspires to assume the mantle of global leadership, it needs to recalibrate its aggressive diplomacy, which has often run roughshod over the claims of other countries. If it continues to be guided by an aggressive policy, it may trigger an arms build-up to counter China. India has already taken steps to modernise its military hardware for any eventuality with China. There are also talks of Japan and India joining hands to halt the Chinese juggernaut by forming an alliance to act as a counterweight to China’s expansionist policy. One hopes China draws lessons from the Doklam standoff.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby vijaykarthik » 05 Nov 2017 10:49

^trillions of dollars invested in the OBOR, naah. More like billions currently and that too long term loans etc. Its still only in the preparatory stage and getting implemented slowly. IIRC, 2020-35-50 is the implementation stage.

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Postby Kashi » 05 Nov 2017 11:49

An Indian writer writing for a Baki publication on an issue that relates to India-China relations...

Who is the aiming for?


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