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Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Guddu » 13 Aug 2017 00:36

This is empty bluster by China, China can barely match India, and they want to pick a fight with the USA ?

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby kancha » 13 Aug 2017 00:59

Folks, posted another blog on the quality of the PLA soldiers. This one is about an incident in South Sudan where the PLA peacekeepers ran away from their posts, abandoning their weapons upon coming under fire.
In the end, it was the Indian Peacekeepers from the Kumaon Regiment that restored the situation!

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby g.sarkar » 13 Aug 2017 01:41

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ina-border
India's Military Said to Increase Alert Along Tense China Border
By Nc Bipindra
August 12, 2017, 4:29 AM PDT
Up to 50,000 soldiers have been put on notice, officials say
Move is latest in eight-week standoff at remote tri-junction
India has increased its military alert along its eastern border with China, placing around 50,000 soldiers on notice amid an eight-week-long stand-off with Chinese troops near a three-way junction between Bhutan, China and India, people familiar with the matter said.
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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby DrRatnadip » 13 Aug 2017 02:10

kancha wrote:Folks, posted another blog on the quality of the PLA soldiers. This one is about an incident in South Sudan where the PLA peacekeepers ran away from their posts, abandoning their weapons upon coming under fire.
In the end, it was the Indian Peacekeepers from the Kumaon Regiment that restored the situation!

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This shows real nature of chini soldiers.. Eleven is well aware of this fact hence only fighting war with gober times..Thanks for posting sir..

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Hersh » 13 Aug 2017 02:18

There is lot of discussion in past few threads with almost unanimous conclusion that India is better placed...and all but ruling out the Nuke option.
However I could think of one thing for which India has not got a better answer and that is if PLA attacks power centers like Delhi with CMs....even if we reply; since their side being a cold desert the numbers will be 1000:1 in their favour. Which with their media they can tom tom and have a face saver.

We need to get an Indian flotilla in S China sea under the garb of N korea crisis; showing solidarity with our Japanese and S Korean friends and at their invitation; parked in Osaka.

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby pankajs » 13 Aug 2017 02:29

So you will take revenge for Delhi 1000:1 by sailing to Japan and back?

BTW, China has declared Dokalam area its territory and that it will expel India for there. Not their exact words but the gist and it has been repeated like upwards of 100 times. So how will launching CMs on Delhi help them save face when IA is still at Doklam?

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby UlanBatori » 13 Aug 2017 02:43

The most probable attack is one directly on the troops at Doklam. Just blast the heck out of the land behind the Indians, and on that slope to prevent reinforcements. Most of their men will run backwards, leaving ground open for them to strike the Indian line.

Surely they have enough accuracy to land shells/missiles with 1m CEP from 2 miles away?
I am not saying that India cannot retaliate, but the above is the most obvious Lizard behavior.

Will India then seek to neutralize the nbd and take the whole plateau and its environs?

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby pankajs » 13 Aug 2017 02:51

The problem, as the Chinese see it, is that India has occupied land that they claim as theirs. So all effort on their part will be to recover that land to save face. Attacking IA at Doklam is one option. Grabbing land in another sectors is another option. CMs on support infra like airfields, etc is par for the course as it will help then peruse their military objective.

Lobbing a bunch of CMs on Delhi will not help them recover Doklam unless they really go all out raining Ballistic missiles. But then it will be an all out war.

BTW you don't launch CMs/BMs on population centers in a limited war. If China plans a limited war forget Delhi they will not even target Gauhati or even Gangtok population centers. Military installations are fair game.

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby nam » 13 Aug 2017 03:10

UlanBatori wrote:The most probable attack is one directly on the troops at Doklam. Just blast the heck out of the land behind the Indians, and on that slope to prevent reinforcements. Most of their men will run backwards, leaving ground open for them to strike the Indian line.

Surely they have enough accuracy to land shells/missiles with 1m CEP from 2 miles away?
I am not saying that India cannot retaliate, but the above is the most obvious Lizard behavior.

Will India then seek to neutralize the nbd and take the whole plateau and its environs?


We will cut off chumbi valley. The chini can sit on dolam plateau without supplies eating cruise missile debries, while we pound chumbi daily.

I have seen questions on what will India do if chini does this or that..

Probably we need to ask, once chinis have done their thing what is going to save their border units when 12 divisions and IAF is going to fall on them.
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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby williams » 13 Aug 2017 03:41

nam wrote:
UlanBatori wrote:The most probable attack is one directly on the troops at Doklam. Just blast the heck out of the land behind the Indians, and on that slope to prevent reinforcements. Most of their men will run backwards, leaving ground open for them to strike the Indian line.

Surely they have enough accuracy to land shells/missiles with 1m CEP from 2 miles away?
I am not saying that India cannot retaliate, but the above is the most obvious Lizard behavior.

Will India then seek to neutralize the nbd and take the whole plateau and its environs?


We will cut off chumbi valley. The chini can sit on dolam plateau without supplies eating cruise missile debries, while we pound chumbi daily.

I have seen questions on what will India do it chini does this or that..

Probably we need to ask, once chinis have done their thing what is going to save their border units when 12 divisions and IAF is going to fall on them.

I asked the same question with one of the Chaiwalas on the supposed CM advantage Chinese have. His reply was that we will not only attack with Brahmos but there is enough Prithvi II and III that can be used with conventional warheads and good CEP to payback in kind. If they have the audacity to attack Delhi then we can even use Agni with conventional payload and create a big mess in heartland of Beijing. So any missile attack on our political HQ is a big escalatory step that will be a lose-lose situation for both the countries.

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Guddu » 13 Aug 2017 03:45

Anyone want to take a shot on predicting the end game and why. I dont see an all out war scenario.
1. China attacks (localized to Doklam)
2. China attacks (localized elsewhere)
3. Both sides withdraw once winter sets in
4. India attacks first

I personally think option 3 is the most likely, but China will have learnt its lesson and will try to pay us back at a later date. What would be disruptive is if India sets the ball rolling (option 4), either in Doklam or elsewhere. We at BRF have not given that scenario much thought.

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby UlanBatori » 13 Aug 2017 04:07

Probably best that way. India does not attack anyone. But 2 seconds after someone attacks, is another story.


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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby SriKumar » 13 Aug 2017 05:28

My 50 cents: If China does not go all out, they may come out the loser in this. India is not pussy-footing around this time.

China can talk about a limited war, but how can they be sure that India wants to keep it limited after China starts shooting? After 1962, India did not limit itself in 1965 against Pakistan and opened a new front on a settled border with Pakistan, in return for an attack on an un-settled border (LoC). And China is an even bigger threat. Limiting itself will only help China. India will not limit itself to what China desires.

India may withdraw only in return for some guarantees like they do not probe the border with their 'patrols' and start building in 'disputed areas' and all that nonsense.... but there have been several comments from India (Swaraj herself?) saying that India will talk after both parties withdraw their troops. So, this may be the only option short of a war.

UlanBatori wrote:Probably best that way. India does not attack anyone. But 2 seconds after someone attacks, is another story.
Yes, in fact one of the criticisms of Nehru's time was that he placed Indian troops beyond the border, into China territory in so-called 'forward positions' thus giving the Chinese a legal casus belli (not that they needed one). China can fire the first shot if they want. One second later India unloads on them.... is the best scenario for India.

However, what does India do when China is executing a massive troop buildup near a border region they can grab? Should India still wait for the troops to amass, take positions, fire the first shot before India reacts. Maybe something like this happened in Sum Durong Chu '87 (and more recently in Chumar, in 2014). In the past, India has reacted to such situations by putting in more troops than the Chinese. In Chumar, it seems the number was 9x (in the news report is to be believed).

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Prem » 13 Aug 2017 05:48

How do one know if the Chini Mizzles rushing toward Delhi are Nuke tipped r not ? I Don't think Chinni have the guts to take chance on this going Nuclear.

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Prem » 13 Aug 2017 05:51

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby UlanBatori » 13 Aug 2017 05:53

Massive visible buildup for invasion is of course a problem. Best bet is to get the air fauj ready to hit their supply lines and go around them instead of confronting head-on. Somewhere though the invaders have to be slowed down before they reach Indian rear supply lines.
Awesome video! Loved that robot with the gun.

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby brvarsh » 13 Aug 2017 06:24

Why is only attacking Delhi escalatory? Why not attacking Siligudi not ecalatory? Why Chinese firing one bullet on a defending Indian soldier not escalatory? Drawing the line what is escalatory and what is not is a sign of strategic weakness that we must not be suffering from.

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Sanju » 13 Aug 2017 06:27

brvarsh wrote:Why is only attacking Delhi escalatory? Why not attacking Siligudi not ecalatory? Why Chinese firing one bullet on a defending Indian soldier not escalatory? Drawing the line what is escalatory and what is not is a sign of strategic weakness that we must not be suffering from.


Well said^

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby UlanBatori » 13 Aug 2017 06:27

If entire line of soldiers does a "Peeche Muh!" and moons the other side, would this be escalatory I wonder.

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby SriKumar » 13 Aug 2017 06:36

^^^......errr that would indeed be 'ass-calatory'. :D
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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby SwamyG » 13 Aug 2017 06:36

You are the key decision maker in the upper echelon of Chinese power corridors. It is your call to start the limited war in the Himalayas. You know logistics is against you. Indians are superiors when it comes to Himalayas.

If Indians hold for a week or 10 days, that's it , it becomes harder to get a victory. You know India can block Malacca straits. Your options are to capture territory and announce victory in 3 or 4 days and withdraw. Else you will be painfully excited.

Another option is to use your dog Pakistan to cause trouble on India's western borders or let lose a dirty bomb.That escalation will drag rest of the World. At least America.

So why would you start a war when things do not pretty for you?

Remember if you fail you are doomed, as vultures around you will shred you into pieces.

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby BSR Murthy » 13 Aug 2017 06:38

I think this is relevant to this thread albeit slightly OT. Kirk Lippold, the former Commander of USS Cole makes a cogent case for targeting the real villain, China. Speaks with some clarity on Chinese perfidy in nuclear proliferation and the danger from its vassal states.

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby williams » 13 Aug 2017 06:47


Some of the discussion we are having here is been talked about by some ex top brass. Seems like BRF is on the same page

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby vasu raya » 13 Aug 2017 07:13

In fact they may ask their munna to conduct terrorist strikes around Independence day so that side of the border can be 'legitimately' heated up and still be under the threshold of CSD, who knows if this threshold is at a higher level due to Chinese LAC on alert

Anyways the heliborne insertion in the war exercise video was just too good, wonder what our response times are at this alert level should the Chinese choppers intrude and if things go south they may just use rocket artillery to flatten that area assuming Indian forces are countering this small probing heliborne task force with nine times ratio they can still claim victory on bodybag count

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Hari Seldon » 13 Aug 2017 07:16

Regardless of who fires first, know that each side will claim the other started it. Fog of war and all that.

I have no doubt India will not start this. Wonder what would happen if we did, though. A series of small escalatory steps would mean both sides could claim with plausibility the other guys are the culprits.

'2 seconds after the first cheeni bullet enters Indian/Bhutanese airspace' makes perfect sense but expect PRC to blame IA first (unless they use mijjiles or some such shock-aww tactics first).

Time will tell, window is closing. But hey, door may open.

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Gagan » 13 Aug 2017 07:26

[quote="Prem"] * Deleted *
400% Cringeworthy video!

It is a mish mash of old videos, and US military video. None of these has anything to do with any recent exercise.
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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Gagan » 13 Aug 2017 07:34

One thing we can be certain of, is that India is not about to start anything.
India has hardly spoken anything officially.

Chinese official media is in war mode. If it was upto them, they would have won by now - real life is less dramatic

If China loses territory here or in any other area, it will mean catastrophe for President Xi, the Communist Party.
There is no way for China to win this, India will dominate any escalation, test the chinese every step of the way.
China has poor and tenuous supply lines, they are surrounded on 3 sides in the Chumbi Valley. Those soldiers in the valley will be killed in 2-3 days.

If India uses its airforce, all of Tibet will be under threat. China can't deploy enough fighters, they don't have enough airfields close enough, they don't have enough refuelers. Any offensive by china, which escalates is bad bad news for them.

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Gagan » 13 Aug 2017 07:39

China thinks it is going to win a war with India with Hotan, Kunshaxiang, Lahsa, Shigaste and Linzhi? India has, hold your breath: 16 odd airbases in vicinity of the Indo-Tibetan border.
The sheer number of fighters, bombers that India can deploy is twice that of what China can over Tibet.

The PLA will be forced against better council by the Communist party into war.

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Gagan » 13 Aug 2017 07:43

Don't listen to Gobar Times. They are a bunch of Cheeni Dork Media. They will get the Chinese nation in trouble with their boastful reporting.
They have caused the Chinese public to have a wrong impression of things by their false bravardo and this can only mean bad news for the Chinese leadership.

It paints the leadership into a corner.

Gobar Times and their ilk have done a great disservice to the Chinese leadership, by their reporting on Doklam and North Korea. In both situations, they have completely missed the magnitude of the opposition that stands opposite the Chinese nation. This is what happens if media is immature and propagandist in nature. The fools don't have any sense of nuance - the only thing they know, is "Crush the enemy" and several versions of it.

Here China faces unwinnable odds against India, in the east, they have a bevy of navies ganging up lead by the US.

Gobar times is still declaring that soon they will "Crush the damn imperialists" :rotfl:

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby SSridhar » 13 Aug 2017 07:50

Doklam standoff: China playing out its ‘Three Warfares’ strategy against India - Indrani Bagchi, ToI
Is China playing out its 'Three Warfares' strategy against India? Indian strategists who are involved with China in the current Doklam crisis believe China has now fully operationalized this concept and is applying it to the Doklam crisis.

The Three Warfares

The provenance of the 'Three Warfares' is not fully established. But according to sources, in 2003, China's Central Military Commission (CMC) approved the guiding concepts for "information operations for the PLA, also known as "Three Warfares" (san zhong zhanfa). It was reinforced in 2010. Comprising public opinion/media warfare, psychological warfare and legal warfare, the Three Warfares have been critical components of China's strategic approach in the South China Sea+ and beyond. {In the Indo-China Sea conflict, the 3W concept has miserably flopped} It is now being applied in the Indian context.

China's 'Three Warfares' against the Phillipines


In 2016, this concept was at work after the UNCLOS tribunal ruled against China in a comprehensive verdict dismissing China's claims in the South China Sea.+ Despite the fact that the Philippines achieved a major international victory against the depredations of a more powerful but more aggressive neighbour, China, with its application of the Three Warfares, was able to successfully co-opt Rodrigo Duterte (Phillipines President) to its side. One year later, China has emerged victorious. Nobody mentions the UNCLOS ruling, and the Philippines has submitted to Beijing's superior power {Yes, with just a 1960s-type Cutter donated by the US Coast Guard as its most major asset, the Philippines has absolutely no chance against even a flotilla of Chinese fishing trawlers. That is the reason for the surrender of the Philippines, not the 3W}.

Doklam: Media Warfare

In the Doklam context, China has been using this concept to influence domestic and international public opinion in support of China's actions — in this case trampling over Bhutan's claims and ripping up the 2012 agreement on tri-junctions. China's state-owned media, foreign ministry, defence ministry and even foreign minister Wang Yi have let loose a barrage of statements+ and press briefings and commentaries, with the intention of dissuading India from its actions at the site. {This barrage is only statements of boast, or threats or invectives; not the truth. Does any nation believe all that China says? China's credibility is extremely low; has never been high}

Doklam: Psychological warfare

With every Indian media outlet amplifying the Chinese message, the idea is to use Indians to put pressure on the Indian government and get them to withdraw, largely by doubting India's own assertions. Closely related is the psychological warfare unleashed by China — this has been everything from calling Sushma Swaraj a "liar"+ to saying the "countdown had begun"; assertions that China would rescind its decision on Sikkim or "free" Sikkim from Indian oppression; or that it could interfere in J&K"-- all intended to "undermine India's ability to conduct combat operations through psychological operations aimed at deterring, shocking and demoralizing enemy military personnel."

Suddenly, pictures of 1962 war were flashed through Chinese media, which remains a sore point in India. Some Chinese commentaries even said 1962 veterans would send their children to fight India, since that was how angry the average Chinese was. Yet, As TOI pointed out+ some time ago, the Doklam issue was not among the top 50 trends on Weibo, their social media platform, which boasts 560 million followers!

The Indian non-response has been the worst thing for China. India's China experts have led the way in the government and even the opposition refused to react to China's tactics to prevent China from executing a war without firing a single shot.

Doklam: Legal Warfare


In 2016, the 'Three Warfare' operations exerted a strong "psychological frightening force" on everyone connected with the South China Sea issue. Official Chinese media described the arbitration as a "farce" which did not need to be obeyed, while officially the Chinese ambassador to the US, Cui Tiankai, argued that the arbitration case would "undermine the authority and effectiveness of international law," justifying China's rejection of it as a defense of "international justice and the true spirit of international law". So China, the rule-breaker suddenly became China, the rule-defender.

Something similar is underway vis-a-vis India now, sources believe. Earlier this week, a Chinese official claimed that Bhutan had "accepted" Chinese sovereignty+ on Doklam forcing Thimphu to have to refute it. Thimphu could have, as Manila did, refrained from an official denial, which would have been recorded as a Chinese victory.[b]{The Chinese calculation was that in spite of the close treaty relationship with India, Bhutan would be intimidated by China and may choose not to refute the Chinese statement and it could then exploit the wedge. Unfortunately for it, it didn't go that way. But, China would continue to exert undue pressure on Bhutan now. India has to do to Bhutan what the US was unable to do to Philippines after the UNCLOS verdict} While China claims Doklam as its own, they have conveniently glossed over the fact that Bhutan and China have held 24 rounds of talks on this dispute.[/b]


As historian Srinath Raghavan has pointed out, the 1890 convention which China suddenly swears by, was not binding on Bhutan. The Chinese claim that Mt Gipmochi should be the tri-junction as mentioned in the 1890 convention is also "problematic." "The principle of defining the boundary therefore was the highest watershed: the highest line of mountains separating the rivers flowing on either side. This is the most logical way of drawing a boundary in mountainous regions. However, subsequent surveys showed that Mount Gipmochi is not on the highest watershed in the area. The latter is the line running from Batang-La to Merugla to Sinchela and then down to the Amo Chu river."


He continues, "The Gipmochi peak is at 14,518ft above the mean sea level, while Merugla and Sinchela (both passes) are respectively at 15,266ft and 14,531ft. The Batangla-Merugla-Sinchela line is undeniably the highest watershed in the region. Hence Bhutan claims it as the boundary line with Tibet and regards Doklam area as its territory. Hence, India claims that Batangla should be the tri-junction."


But by now, China has flooded the media and airwaves with its contention that first, the 1890 Convention is sacrosanct (although China refuses to accept the 1914 convention and McMahon Line of 1914) and that Mt Gipmochi is the tri-junction not Batang-La. In addition, as Raghavan points out, if China is right and there was no dispute, why has China been holding talks with Bhutan?



Writing for IDSA, research fellow Abhijit Singh wrote, "The evolving Chinese 3Ws strategy goes beyond mere propaganda wars and misinformation campaigns. Expanding conventional war dynamics into the political domain, the 3Ws appear aimed at undermining India's organizational foundations and target military morale. More disquietingly, the strategy appears designed to subdue India without even needing to fight."

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby BSR Murthy » 13 Aug 2017 08:01

williams wrote: >snip<
Some of the discussion we are having here is been talked about by some ex top brass. Seems like BRF is on the same page


Who needs Burkha Dutt?!
These retired generals should be playing rummy not war games - at least not on TV.
As Rumsfeld said, "you go to war with the army you have...not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time".

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Singha » 13 Aug 2017 08:19

As a observer of the libya and syria wars i would say the
Flame and fury of cm and bm strikes lasts for a day or
Two of media optics only. None but khan has enough of
Such and pgm to carry out a sustained campaign.

And despite zero air power or decent uav , isis continues
To carry out devastating hit and run raids in open desert the latest yesterday when they killed 18 in a output after 100 zombies swarmed it

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Gagan » 13 Aug 2017 08:46

Not appropriate to discuss locations or numbers, but the one tranche of Brahmos deployed in the NE in the mid of last year was supposed to be 100 missiles strong
Just saying

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Gagan » 13 Aug 2017 08:48

These will likely take out supply bases, airfields, radar installations, SAM sites critical infrastructure, communication nodes etc

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby williams » 13 Aug 2017 08:51

Gagan wrote:Not appropriate to discuss locations or numbers, but the one tranche of Brahmos deployed in the NE in the mid of last year was supposed to be 100 missiles strong
Just saying

That is correct. The recent regiment is armed with the deep dive variety. There are 3 more such regiments with block 1 and block 2 missiles.

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Singha » 13 Aug 2017 09:39

Having failed to subdue india with optics msm and threats the score is india 1 china 0

Lizard needs to deploy shock and fist armies into tibet through the pleasant winter to restore lost honour and face. Let us see how it works. A million heated huts and soup kitchens will be needed for their feared 32 divisions in a week fist army our retd rummy generals shiver about and untold amts of fuel

Let the dlagon pull down his pants to show us his real tooling

India is waiting too see if down under the dlagon is thunder !!

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby shiv » 13 Aug 2017 09:48

Singha wrote:
Lizard needs to deploy shock and fist armies into tibet through the pleasant winter to restore lost honour and face. Let us see how it works. A million heated huts and soup kitchens will be needed for their feared 32 divisions in a week fist army our retd rummy generals shiver about and untold amts of fuel

You forgot auskigen er oxygen enriched tents in North Dharamsala

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby kancha » 13 Aug 2017 09:52

DrRatnadip wrote:
kancha wrote:Folks, posted another blog on the quality of the PLA soldiers. This one is about an incident in South Sudan where the PLA peacekeepers ran away from their posts, abandoning their weapons upon coming under fire.
In the end, it was the Indian Peacekeepers from the Kumaon Regiment that restored the situation!

Blog Link

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This shows real nature of chini soldiers.. Eleven is well aware of this fact hence only fighting war with gober times..Thanks for posting sir..


Exactly. Just that they actually got named and shamed this time round.
Dare I say, it will happen more and more as they try to expand their military footprint as well. And knowing their necessity to put their best 'face' forward, let me venture out and say that these were not just some regular body of troops transported for the peacekeeping mission, but specially selected, trained and indoctrinated ones - basically the best they had. And they couldn't sustain themselves under fire by vastly under-equipped Sudanese. :twisted:

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Re: Neutering & defeating Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby kancha » 13 Aug 2017 09:53

DrRatnadip wrote:
kancha wrote:Folks, posted another blog on the quality of the PLA soldiers. This one is about an incident in South Sudan where the PLA peacekeepers ran away from their posts, abandoning their weapons upon coming under fire.
In the end, it was the Indian Peacekeepers from the Kumaon Regiment that restored the situation!

Blog Link

Twitter Link

This shows real nature of chini soldiers.. Eleven is well aware of this fact hence only fighting war with gober times..Thanks for posting sir..


Exactly. Just that they actually got named and shamed this time round.
Dare I say, it will happen more and more as they try to expand their military footprint as well. And knowing their necessity to put their best 'face' forward, let me venture out and say that these were not just some regular body of troops transported for the peacekeeping mission, but specially selected, trained and indoctrinated ones - basically the best they had. And they couldn't sustain themselves under fire by vastly under-equipped Sudanese. :twisted:


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