Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis (9-8-2014)

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Bombay Bar-Dancer Murdered

Killer, deceased, friend all are from peaceful religion but the killer's name is interesting:
"Rajesh" Khan from West Bengal :(

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Prem wrote:


So that's how incurable diseases are carried by the momeens from one country to another.

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Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden belief driven attack on Monday (21, November) kills more than 30 people. The Shia Mohammadden Baqir ul-Uloom Mosque gets suicide bombed by Sunni Mohammadden outfit Islamic State.:

Isis claims responsibility for Kabul mosque suicide bomb blast

Islamic State has claimed responsibility for a suicide attack on a crowded mosque in Kabul that killed more than 30 people and wounded dozens in its third major attack on minority Shias in the Afghan capital since July.

More than 80 people were injured, according to Ismail Kawoosi, a spokesman for Afghanistan’s ministry of public health. The number of dead, which included at least one child, was expected to rise.

The attack, on Monday afternoon, targeted the Baqir ul-Uloom mosque in the Darulaman area. It took place towards the end of a prayer ceremony marking Arbaeen, a religious observance on the 40th day of the martyrdom of Imam Hussein, perceived by Shias to be the rightful heir to the prophet Muhammad.

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Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden belief driven attack kills at least 80 people in Iraq. Buses carrying Shia Mohammaddens get bombed in a VBIED attack by Sunni Mohammadden outfit Islamic State at a petrol station:

Isis claims truck bomb in Iraq that killed at least 80 Shia pilgrims

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Postby Falijee » 25 Nov 2016 01:55

No Christmas Decorations In German "Sharia - Area " :roll:
Woolworths Axes Christmas Decorations: ‘We’re a Muslim Business Now’
A row has broken out after customers were told by Woolworths staff that Christmas decorations will no longer be stocked as it’s now a Muslim store.
Dortmund, Germany, residents were shocked to see the Woolworths branch’s Yuletide selection, which included gifts, tree decorations, and chocolate Santas, was removed after just a few days on display.
A member of staff explained the sudden withdrawal boasting, “We are a Muslim business, we don’t want to sell Christmas articles”.Seda Capakcur, the branch’s manager, confirmed festive items were no longer being sold at the store.“The Christmas articles are hardly in demand here. Already last year, everything remained unsold”, she told reporters.
City officials report that Christians now make up less than 30 per cent of the total population of Northern Dortmund, where the store is located.
So, this area of Dortmund should be designated "Darul- Islam now :evil:
In September, German Catholics spoke out to criticise the trend in public daycare centres of dropping Christmas festivities in favour of paying lip service to the “diverse cultures” of migrants.

Not only in Europe, but also in North America, this is becoming a disturbing trend , where schools are pressured not to serve pork products, where Muslim taxi drivers refuse to pick up passengers for "religious reasons "; recently , an educated Muslim "boasted" on You-tube , that due to their high birth rate, the Muslims are going to "dominate" (i.e. make it Darul Islam) Europe within the next 25 years or so !

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Postby Peregrine » 25 Nov 2016 06:28

As European authorities target Salafism, the word needs parsing

Europe sees danger in Salafism

WHAT exactly is Salafism? In continental Europe, the word is now used as a catchall for extreme and violent interpretations of Islam. This week for example, authorities in the German state of Hesse raided five premises including a mosque; it was the latest move in a crackdown on ultra-militant forms of Islam all over Germany which began last week. “Extremist propaganda is the foundation for Islamic radicalisation and ultimately for violence,” said the interior minister of Hesse, Peter Beuth, by way of explaining the latest raids. “The Salafist ideology is a force not to be underestimated,” he added.

On November 15th, German federal authorities banned what they described as a Salafi organisation known as “True Religion” or “Read!” whose notional purpose was to distribute copies of the Koran. On the same day, police swept through 200 offices and other buildings across the country. Ralf Jäger, interior minister of the populous state of North Rhine-Westphalia (NRW), reportedly gave this reason for the ban: “Every fifth Salafist who has travelled out from NRW under the aegis of so-called Islamic State in order to join a terror cell had previous contact with ‘Read!’”

In France, too, the word Salafi or Salafist is often used as a generic term for forms of Islam which are too extreme for any government policy to parley with or accommodate. Manuel Valls, the Socialist prime minister, has reported with alarm that the Salafis, although a tiny minority among French Muslims, may be winning an ideological war in France because their voice is louder and more efficiently disseminated than any other. François Fillon, a centre-right politician who is likely to make the run-off in next year’s presidential election, is a strong advocate of cracking down both on Salafism and on the groups linked to the global Muslim Brotherhood.

In the very loosest of senses, all Muslims are Salafi. The word literally describes those who emulate and revere both the prophet Muhammad and the earliest generations of Muslims, the first three generations in particular. There is no Muslim who does not do that. But in practice the word Salafist is most often used to describe a purist, back-to-basics form of Islam that emerged on the Arabian peninsula in the 19th century, taking its cue from two conservative thinkers, Ibn Taymiyyah (1263-1328) and the even more controversial Muhammad Ibn Abd al-Wahhab (1703-1792). Followers of this line are often called Wahhabis by their critics, but they prefer to call themselves Salafis.

But even Saudi Salafism, despite appearances, is no monolith, according to H.A. Hellyer, a British scholar who studies Muslim communities across the world. Several different tendencies can be detected among the kingdom’s religious scholars, who underpin the monarchy. One, which he calls “unreconstructed Salafism” follows Ibn Abd al-Wahhab in regarding as unfaithful or deviant virtually every reading of Islam except its own. Another, slightly more emollient faction puts more emphasis on Ibn Taymiyyah and is not quite so certain that everybody else is in some way unorthodox. Yet another fractionally plays down both those thinkers and simply presents itself as part of the mainstream of Sunni Islam, following one of the faith’s four main legal schools (the Hanbali one) and not insisting on an absolute monopoly of correctness. The kingdom’s future may partly depend on which approach prevails, says Mr Hellyer, a fellow of the Royal United Services Institute, a British think-tank.

In Egypt, too, the word Salafi is used as though it had a simple meaning, but again that is misleading, according to Mr Hellyer, who has described that country’s heady religious politics in a new book, “A Revolution Undone: Egypt’s Road Beyond Revolt”. On the face of things, the Egyptian Salafis are represented by a political party, Al Nour, which emerged as a powerful player after the 2011 uprising, and favours extreme conservatism in matters of dress, gender roles and personal behaviour. This is contrasted with the more tactical and pragmatic form of Islamism represented by the Muslim Brotherhood, which emerged in Egypt in the early 20th century and now wields influence through ideological allies all over the world, including Europe. Nour initially allied itself with the Brotherhood, but when the Brotherhood-inspired government was toppled in 2013, it backed the new regime.

Here is another source of confusion: in the broad sense, the Brotherhood too is partially Salafi in inspiration. It shares the ideal of going back to the very first generations of Muslims; that was part of the thinking of Hassan al-Banna, the Brotherhood’s founder. And at the grass-roots level, the difference between Nour and Brotherhood supporters is not always that great, says Mr Hellyer: both consist of people who feel their hard lives would be improved by a form of government that was explicitly Sunni Muslim. The big difference is in the political tactics followed by the movements. For example, the Brotherhod favours pragmatic dealings with Shia Muslim Iran, whereas the Nour leaders tend to regard all Shias as verging on infidel.

Do the politicians of France and Germany, who use the word Salafi/Salafist as though it were virtually a synonym for terrorist, need to know all this? Yes they do, because the safety of Europe’s streets is at stake. In Britain, for example, there are Salafi mosques whose preachers are theologically conservative but are far from terrorists; and there have been terrorists who have had nothing to do with the mainstream of Salafism. It’s important to understand that of the various forms of Salafism described, there is one, the unreconstructed kind, which can (though does not always) morph into terrorism. Labels can be a helpful pointer through a maze of complexity, but in the end the labyrinth has to be negotiated carefully.
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China is confiscating the passports of citizens in its Muslim-heavy region
Quartz - ‎25 minutes ago‎
China is requiring all residents in its northwestern Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region to turn in their passports. The state mouthpiece Global Times reported on Nov. 23 the new policy will help the government “maintain social order.

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anupmisra wrote:
Prem wrote:[youtubee]H3zzOey-CiU[/youtubee]


So that's how incurable diseases are carried by the momeens from one country to another.


Including the most incurable disease - Islam

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Singha wrote:China is confiscating the passports of citizens in its Muslim-heavy region
Quartz - ‎25 minutes ago‎
China is requiring all residents in its northwestern Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region to turn in their passports. The state mouthpiece Global Times reported on Nov. 23 the new policy will help the government “maintain social order.

Singha Ji :
From : ALJAZEERA
Opinion: Is China changing its policy towards Uighur Muslims?

While the order covers everyone living in the area, many members of Xinjiang's more than 10 million-strong Muslim Uighur minority complain of discrimination - including denials of passport applications - as well as controls on their culture and religion.

In mid-October, the public security bureau of Shihezi city posted a directive on a verified social media account asking residents to hand in their passports to police.

The order stated: "Those who refuse to hand them in will bear the responsibility themselves should there be consequences such as being forbidden to go abroad."

The post was later deleted.

Photos of other notices posted on social media showed police stations in various counties and in the regional capital Urumqi requesting citizens hand in passports or stating that new documents would no longer be issued.

'Xinjiang regressing'

Angry questions about the new restrictions abounded on Chinese social media.

"I didn't spend time and money getting a passport to become the focus of the government's safeguarding or to ask for their instructions every time I go out on holiday," said one incensed user from the border district of Tacheng, on the Twitter-like Sina Weibo platform.

"If citizens cannot enjoy even basic rights, how can we live? Would the government please give me a sensible reason for this?"

A second said: "Xinjiang is becoming stranger and stranger, regressing as time goes on."

Inside Story: Uighurs in the firing line in China? Please watch the Video

In June, local state-run media reported that the mostly Kazakh residents of a Xinjiang border district had to give police DNA samples, fingerprints, voiceprints and a "three-dimensional image" in order to apply for certain travel documents, including passports.

A Xinjiang official told the Global Times that the new tightening of policy was intended to maintain social order in the region.

Beijing regularly accuses what it says are exiled separatist groups, such as the East Turkestan Islamic Movement, of being behind attacks in Xinjiang, which has seen a wave of violent unrest.

But many independent experts doubt the strength of overseas Uighur groups and their links to violent attacks, with some saying China exaggerates the threat to justify tough security measures in the resource-rich region.
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Postby Falijee » 25 Nov 2016 22:22

"Preacher Of Piss" Feeling The ( Indian) Heat ?
IRF ban timed with demonetisation to divert media attention: Islamic preacher Zakir Naik

Mumbai: Terming the five-year ban on Islamic Research Foundation as an attack on "Muslims, peace, democracy and justice," controversial Islamic preacher Zakir Naik today said the ban was timed with the "demonetisation fiasco" to avert resistance and divert media attention.(Grandeurs of Delusion ? :mrgreen:)
In an open letter, Naik, 51, who is abroad, ( legal options from abroad? :roll: ) said he will pursue all legal options to get the ban repealed and that the judiciary will fail the Modi government in its 'plans'.
"Before investigations were done, even before reports submitted, the ban was already decided. IRF was to be banned. Whether it was owing to my religion or some other reason, does not matter. What now matters is that my work of 25 years ? completely lawful work ? has been banned. And that is the most unfortunate thing for this country," Naik said in his letter.

He can still pursue his "passion for Malsi" - from the "sands of Saudia"- one of the "few" countries which has NOT banned hi'm and indeed has conferred one of its highest civil award to him. Or he can "migrate" to Pakistan, where I am sure, he will be "welcomed" with open arms ( as an "enemy" of India)
"Before investigations were done, even before reports submitted, the ban was already decided. IRF was to be banned. Whether it was owing to my religion or some other reason, does not matter. What now matters is that my work of 25 years ? completely lawful work ? has been banned. And that is the most unfortunate thing for this country," Naik said in his letter. :((
Criticising the five-year ban on IRF, Naik said: "This must be the most unique ban to be applied in the history of India, because not a single time was I questioned or given a chance to explain. Not a single chance. No notice, no summons, no calls and no contact ever made with me to get my side of the story. I kept offering my help in investigation but it wasn't taken."
His father died; he did not even come to India for his funeral ! If he was NOT guilty conscious he could have used the occasion to clear up his name at that time ; so what BS ( "to get my side of the story ") is he talking about !
Naik said if the bank account of Islamic International School, run by IRF, is frozen it will not be able to meet its daily expenses and future of hundreds of school children will be in jeopardy.
(playing the "sympathy" card !)
He also said he has complete faith in the judiciary and the government will fail in its "plans".
The NIA has also written to Union Home Ministry for banning the website run by the IRF and as well as suspending its online activities which includes videos of speeches on social networking sites, sources had earlier said, adding that the request will be forwarded to Information Technology ministry.
Next logical step would be to either revoke his Indian passport, or decline to renew same on expiry :evil:

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'They will kill us': The Rohingya refugees fleeing torture and rape in Myanmar
By Rebecca Wright, CNN Updated 1631 GMT (0031 HKT) November 25, 2016

Hafez Saeed Of LET "fame" should come on CNN and take up their cause ; earn some "brownie points" on behalf of Ummah

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X Posted from the STFUP thread.

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Following from the Late Lee Kwan Yew

Singapore's Lee: we can't integrate Muslims

Andrew Bolt, Herald Sun - February 2, 2011 3:19am

Singapore's presiding genius, Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew, on the failure of Muslim integration:

In the book, Mr Lee, when asked to assess the progress of multiracialism in Singapore, said: “I have to speak candidly to be of value, but I do not wish to offend the Muslim community. “I think we were progressing very nicely until the surge of Islam came, and if you asked me for my observations, the other communities have easier integration - friends, intermarriages and so on, Indians with Chinese, Chinese with Indians - than Muslims. That’s the result of the surge from the Arab states.” He added: “I would say today, we can integrate all religions and races except Islam.” He also said: “I think the Muslims socially do not cause any trouble, but they are distinct and separate.”

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For the record Lee Kwan Yew did some politically correct downhill skiing about what he is recorded as saying in the book “Lee Kuan Yew: Hard Truths to Keep Singapore Going” and gave Singapore’s Mohammadden population a clean chit, mind only Singapore’s Mohammaddens:

MM Lee: "I stand corrected"

AsiaOne
Tue, Mar 08, 2011

Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew issued a statement last night and said he stands corrected on how well-integrated Malay-Muslims are in Singapore, according to a Straits Times report.

He referred to the comments he made in the new book, Lee Kuan Yew: Hard Truths to Keep Singapore Going.

He said: "Hard Truths was a book based on 32 hours of interviews over a period of two years.

"I made this one comment on the Muslims integrating with other communities probably two or three years ago. Ministers and MPs, both Malay and non-Malay, have since told me that Singapore Malays have indeed made special efforts to integrate with the other communities, especially since 9/11, and that my call is out of date.

"I stand corrected. I hope that this trend will continue in the future."

Since the book was published, reactions from some Muslim groups were negative. Some said his remarks were unfounded while others called for him to apologise. ……………..

Asia One


Meanwhile more from Singapore’s Lee Kwan Yew on the dangers posed by Mohammaddenism to the world. Time Magazine interview datelined December 12, 2005.

The Mohammadden terrorist fomenting ways of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan gets a mention.

THE DANGER OF RADICAL ISLAM

TIME: How serious is the threat?

LEE: This battle is going to be won and lost in the Middle East. The problem in Iraq is very grave. If the jihadists win there, I'm in trouble here. [Their attitude will be]: We've beaten the Russians in Afghanistan, we've beaten the Americans and the coalition in Iraq. There's nothing we cannot do. We can fix Southeast Asia too. There will be such a surge of confidence for all jihadists. The U.S. must be seen�if not to have prevailed or to have created a democratic Iraq�to at least to have denied the jihadists a victory. Because otherwise the consequences for America and for the world are horrendous.

TIME: The 2002 plot to blow up seven embassies in Singapore using truck bombs�our sense is that you were taken completely by surprise.

LEE: Of course. How could we, in this most cosmopolitan and open of cities, where 15% Muslim Malays are completely mixed up with Chinese, Indians, Eurasians and others, go to English-language schools, do similar jobs, live in similar homes, produce 30-plus would-be jihadists?

TIME: You had no idea?

LEE: No idea at all. It was a stroke of good fortune. Our intelligence had under surveillance a few religious types [in Singapore]. One of them left for Karachi and went on to Afghanistan, soon after the country was bombed by the Americans [in late 2001]. He was captured by the [anti-Taliban] Northern Alliance. He was of Pakistani descent. So we found that this wasn't just a religious study group. If that fella had not gone off to Karachi to fight with the Taliban, we would have been hit with seven truck bombs. The nitrates were sitting [across the causeway] in [the Malaysian state of] Johore.

At the same time that this Pakistani, born and bred in Singapore and English-speaking, was caught by the Northern Alliance, another Pakistani born and bred in Bradford, U.K., was caught in Iraq and sent to Guant�namo Bay. I watched his father on the BBC, and thought to myself: two Pakistani families left Pakistan, one for Bradford, the other for Singapore, produced children, brought up in two totally different environments, quite distant from the Islam of Pakistan, and yet they both end up fighting in Afghanistan. This Islamist pull is more powerful than that of communism. The communists never fully trusted one another across racial boundaries. The Vietnamese communists never trusted the Chinese communists and so on. But with the Islamists there is total trust: You are a warrior for Islam, so am I: We swear to fight together.

TIME: Both the rise of China and the rise of radical Islam require very sustained, long-term engagement by the U.S. Are you confident that Americans have the ability and the patience for the long-term view, the long-term engagement?

LEE: In the past the U.S. had the option of opting out, as in Vietnam. Now Americans know they are vulnerable; 9/11 brought this home dramatically. American embassies and American businesses are being attacked worldwide. Opting out is not an option. To make the long-term burden sustainable you need a broad alliance, to spread the load, to reduce excessive burdens on yourself. You need others to agree on the basic causes and solutions. It's not poverty, it's not deprivation, it's something more fundamental, a resurgence of Arab and Islamic pride, and a belief that their time has come. The objective must be to reassure and persuade moderate Muslims, the rationalists and modernizers, which I believe the majority are, that they are not going to lose, that they have the weight, the resources of the world behind them. They must have the courage to go into the mosques and madrasahs and switch off the radicals. ……………….

Lee Kuan Yew Reflects

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Falijee wrote:'They will kill us': The Rohingya refugees fleeing torture and rape in Myanmar
By Rebecca Wright, CNN Updated 1631 GMT (0031 HKT) November 25, 2016

Hafez Saeed Of LET "fame" should come on CNN and take up their cause ; earn some "brownie points" on behalf of Ummah



Unfortunately Myanmar’s efforts to curb problems caused by illegal Bangladeshi immigrants intimidating Myanmarese does not need Mohammadden Terrorists from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan like Hafiz Saeed to go to bat for them when Mohammadden groups in India supply the same. Mohammadden groups Raza Academy and Madina Tul Ilm Foundation organised demonstration at Mumbai’s Azad Maidan in support among other causes of illegal Bangladeshi immigrants in Myanmar caused enough mayhem back in August 2012 which resulted in vandalising of the Amar Jawan Memorial and 2 deaths in Police riot control measures there

1. Mumbai riot: 23 people charged with murder


2. Have you seen the rioters who vandalised the Amar Jawan memorial?

And just to emphasise that there was a Myanmar connection to the Azad Maidan mayhem, excerpt from DNA:

Two youths were killed and 52 people injured when a rally, held on August 11, 2012 to protest alleged atrocities on Muslims in Assam and Myanmar, turned violent. Among those injured were 44 policemen.

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Postby Rishi Verma » 26 Nov 2016 10:10

Aslam Khan Arrested for Handing out Photoshopped Picture of NaMo

It should not be taken as an isolated incident. SM is full of pissfuls spreading fake propaganda. Need vigilance against this organized campaign.

Mullahs, Pakis, Congress all three in cohoots against Modi.

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Postby Peregrine » 27 Nov 2016 22:30

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China asks Muslims to oppose religious extremism, reject foreign influence

BEIJING: China has asked its Muslim population to "resolutely oppose religious extremism" and adhere to the concept of "socialism with Chinese characteristics" while practicing their religion.

The statement came from Wang Zuo'an, chief of the state administration for religious affairs, at the 10th National Congress of Chinese Muslims. Wang indicated that the government was worried about foreign influence over Muslims in China at a time when major acts of terrorism were being carried out by terrorists in different parts of the world.

Wang also expressed concern about new mosques being in Muslim populated areas were copying designs from shrines in foreign countries instead of relying on Chinese traditions in mosque building. New mosques should demonstrate Chinese characteristics and national features, he said.

China's Communist officials have often said that Muslim fundamentalism, which has overseas influence, is responsible for the growth of terrorism in Xinjiang, which borders Pakistan.

The government would disallow any attempt by Muslim religious groups to interfere in the process of governance, Wang said. Any "religious interference" in the fields of politics, justice and education is "intolerable", the official media said on Sunday quoting from Wang's speech.

China has been apprehensive about the rise of Muslim fundamentalism in Pakistan, which borders the western Chinese region of Xinjiang that has a vast Muslim population. Communist leaders have earlier indicated that terror camps in Pakistan have supplied arms and other forms of support to separatists in Xinjiang who occasionally indulge in grave violence.

Wang's statement came two days after a government order asking people with passports in Xinjiang to hand over the documents to local police stations for "examination and management".

"Anyone who needs the passport must apply to the police station," the Beijing based Global Times quoted an anonymous police officer in Aksu prefecture of Xinjiang.

The government has also been worried that some Muslims from the province would join the jihadists from Islamic State in Syria and other places, informed sources said.

In his speech, Wang also asked the Islamic Association of China (IAC) should encourge the Islamic clergy to foster the concept of socialism with Chinese characteristics and actively carry out friendly exchange with foreign countries, Wang
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Postby Peregrine » 28 Nov 2016 16:43

Fully Cross Posted on the China Watch and STFUP Threads

China to crack down on 'hyping' of halal products to contain 'pan-Islamism'

NEW DELHI: Communist China continues its anti-Muslim campaign and this time its target is halal food, which the administration believes "spreads pan-Islamist tendencies in the market", the country's state-run media reported.

Halal food is food prepared according to Islamic law, as defined in the Koran. Islam lays down how meat that is to be consumed is slaughtered and that's called 'halal' meat. China has a Muslim population of more than 23 million, mostly living in the country's north and northwest.

And China will "seriously address the problem of hyping up, twisting and expanding the halal food concept," a senior religious affairs official said on Saturday. This, "amid worries that religion is intruding more into secular life in the country", wrote Global Times.

Chinese Muslims should oppose religious extremism, said Wang Zuoan, director of the State Administration for Religious Affairs, on Saturday, according to state news agency Xinhua. He added that the development of Islam in China "should stick to socialism with Chinese characteristics."

This latest move against the "hyping" of halal, comes on top of an "anti-terrorism regulation" imposed in the Muslim-majority Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region in China in August. According to the regulation, those who have "twisted the concept of halal," which usually only applies to food, "and have expanded the concept to all aspects of social life," will be fined up to 10,000 yuan ($1,446) or detained for five to 15 days.

"By elaborately expanding the concept of 'halal," some foreign forces are selling their malicious ideas of pan-Islamism and desinicization in a bid to sabotage China's national security, social stability and unity among ethnic groups", said Xiong Kunxin, professor of ethnic studies at Beijing's Minzu University of China, to Global Times.

Wang, the director of the State Administration for Religious Affairs, said that while Muslims' beliefs and customs should be respected, religious interference in the fields of politics, justice and education is "intolerable". Profesor Xiong said that any violations that affect "normal social order, be they committed by either religious or non-religious individuals, should be sanctioned by law. "

In April, another Communist Party of China official also railed against halal products,

"The government must be vigilant to the pan-Islamist tendencies in the market, like halal water, halal toilet paper, halal toothpaste and halal cosmetics," Li Jianhua, was quoted as saying by during a religious work meeting.

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Postby Pathik » 29 Nov 2016 06:20

A Rohingya muslim guy threw a can of petrol and created an explosion inside a commonwealth bank branch in Melbourne. This occurred 10 days ago. 16 people were grievieously injured. The Australian media as usual down played the attack and termed it as a disgruntled youth who did not get the much needed money or facilities from banks or govt. The man had moved to Australia as a rohingya refugee less than a year ago.

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Postby arun » 29 Nov 2016 07:48

Mohammadden refugee from Somalia by name of Abdul Razak Ali Artan carries out knife attack on campus of US University. Daily Mail reports that Abdul Razak Ali Artan posted on Facebook that “I am sick and tired of seeing my fellow Muslim brothers and sisters being killed and tortured EVERYWHERE”, “I can't take it anymore” and “America! Stop interfering with other countries, especially Muslim Ummah (communities)... [if] you want us Muslims to stop carrying lone wolf attacks” and “We are not weak, remember that”, clearly indicating that the perpetrators belief in Mohammaddenism played a role in instigating this violence:

Ohio state knifeman ranted about how he was 'sick and tired of seeing my fellow Muslim brothers being killed and tortured' on social media hours before wounding 11

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Postby arun » 29 Nov 2016 08:00

Pathik wrote:A Rohingya muslim guy threw a can of petrol and created an explosion inside a commonwealth bank branch in Melbourne. This occurred 10 days ago. 16 people were grievieously injured. The Australian media as usual down played the attack and termed it as a disgruntled youth who did not get the much needed money or facilities from banks or govt. The man had moved to Australia as a rohingya refugee less than a year ago.


I had posted about that particular Commonwealth Bank branch attack by Bangladeshi origin illegal migrant residing in Myanmar and seeking refugee status in Australia in previous page of this thread:

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Meanwhile attacks by adherents of Mohammaddenism targeting Non-Mohammaddens who had so generously allowed them into their country, goes up by one more after the Ohio attack I had mentioned in my previous post.

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Postby arun » 01 Dec 2016 14:17

Married German citizen of Spanish descent who at one time worked as an actor in Homosexual Pronographic movies and who converted to Mohammaddenism in 2014, is arrested for offering to help fellow Mohammaddens infiltrate the German Intelligence Agency the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution aka Bundesamt für Verfassungsschutz aka BfV, an agency where he worked, in order to stage an attack:

Arrested German spy was a onetime gay ***** actor — and a secret Islamist

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Postby Rudradev » 02 Dec 2016 01:03

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... ical-islam

"Trump's Coming Witch Hunt Against Political Islam" :(( :(( :mrgreen:

Until now, this [civilizational jihad] movement was largely ignored by elites in the Republican and Democratic parties. Both George W. Bush and Barack Obama have gone to great lengths to distinguish between Muslims who commit violence in the name of Islam and Muslims who seek to impose Islamic rule on secular societies through elections and free debate. In Iraq, Bush embraced Sunni and Shiite leaders from Islamist parties. Obama went further. His government eliminated terms like "jihad" and "radical Islam" from official FBI and Homeland Security documents. In his first term, Obama explored a deeper relationship with the Muslim Brotherhood abroad in places like Egypt and Turkey.

There are strong indications that Trump will be taking a different approach. First consider what Trump has said. It's not just his off-the-cuff remarks about Muslims. On Aug. 15, Trump gave a prepared policy speech in which he said the U.S. should not only wage an ideological war against our Islamist enemies but also should instate a screening test for immigrants to keep out those who "believe that Sharia law should supplant American law," similar to Cold War era tests to keep out committed communists.

So far key advisers to Trump, like incoming national security adviser Michael Flynn, have spoken and written at length about combating radical Islam, not just the most extreme terrorist groups inspired by this ideology. Senator Jeff Sessions, Trump's nominee for attorney general, has also said there is a need for a bipartisan strategy, similar to the Cold War policy known as "containment," to fight the menace of jihadi ideology.

James Mattis, the front-runner to be Trump's next secretary of defense, has lamented the lack of a national conversation about political Islam. In 2015, the retired Marine Corps general told the Heritage Foundation that the Islamic State's strategy was premised on the assumption that "the Americans will not ask one fundamental question: … Is political Islam in the best interest of the United States?" Mattis continued: "I suggest the answer is no, but we need to have the discussion. If we won't even ask the question, how do we even recognize our side in this fight?"

One person who has been asking that question for the last 15 years has been Gaffney, a former senior Pentagon official under President Reagan. He has a habit of saying and writing outrageous things about Islam. He has mused that Obama was secretly Muslim. He conflates Islamic supremacism with Sharia Islamic law, which has multiple sources and interpretations. And he has accused the federal government of collaborating with radicals intent on bringing Islam to America.

This kind of hyperbole once kept Gaffney and his cohorts out of power and influence. That looks to be changing, though. While Gaffney is not on the transition team, he told me he is hopeful that his ideas and policies will influence the Trump administration.

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Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis (9-8-2014)

Postby Bhurishravas » 03 Dec 2016 15:42

Slovakia toughens rules to deny Islam official status

Slovakia passed legislation on Wednesday to effectively block Islam from gaining official status as a religion in the near future in the latest sign of growing anti-Muslim sentiment across the European Union.
The former communist state has fiercely resisted EU efforts to cope with a big influx of Muslim refugees into Europe since 2015, in part by opposing quotas to share out asylum seekers among EU members. Prime Minister Robert Fico's government has said Islam has no place in Slovakia.


http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/slova ... -356350013

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Postby Peregrine » 04 Dec 2016 02:14

Muslim cleric heads back to court to fight off deportation

PATERSON, N.J. (AP) — The leader of one of New Jersey's largest mosques is heading to court to fight from being deported after federal authorities say he lied on his green card application.

Imam Mohammad Qatanani told his congregation at the Islamic Center of Passaic County that he will return to court on Monday, after the Department of Homeland Security appealed an immigration judge's decision not to deport him eight years ago after finding no credible links to terrorism, The Record (http://bit.ly/2gYYpqX ) reported.

Qatanani came to the U.S. from Jordan. He was born in the West Bank and said that he was detained by Israeli officials while visiting there in 1993.

Federal officials say that he didn't disclose being convicted in Israel for being a member of Hamas, but Qatanani denies that he was ever part of the group classified as a terrorist organization by the U.S. government. He says that he was only detained like many others at the time and was never told that he was convicted of anything.

His brother-in-law was a senior Hamas military leader killed by the Israelis, but Qatanani said in his 2008 trial that he did not participate with him in political activities.

"I know that justice will prevail and that everything will be in the right way. I believe in the judicial system in this country," Qatanani, 52, said Friday.

An attorney for homeland security wasn't available for comment.

An FBI agent testified previously that Qatanani admitted that he was arrested and tried, but he claimed during the trial that he was not aware of the conviction and that he was subjected to physical and mental abuse while in detention.

Qatanani came to the U.S. in 1996 on a religious worker visa to lead the Paterson mosque and has been credited with working with leaders of different faiths and law enforcement. He has worked on the New Jersey Attorney General's Office's Muslim outreach task force.

A number of character witnesses have testified on his behalf at his first trial, including a rabbi and several high-ranking New Jersey law enforcement officials.

While serving as the U.S. federal prosecutor in New Jersey, Republican Gov. Chris Christie called him a "man of great goodwill" and said that "he's always had a very good relationship with us."
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Postby Rishi Verma » 04 Dec 2016 12:44

Reformed ex-Terrorist Preaches Against Radicalization

The soft-spoken Khan described his experience of how terror outfits and their handlers use incomplete verses from Quran to mislead youths. "The Islamic State, Lashkar-e-Taiba and Indian Mujahideen misrepresent Islam and are ruining young Muslims,"


I can imagine which verses...

Incomplete verse...
"it's OK to fu*ck goats..."

Complete verse...
"it's OK to fu*ck goats but if you do you won't get 72 houries but 72-goats"

[Shura Chapter 4:18]

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Postby Peregrine » 06 Dec 2016 01:03

Inequality among British Muslim communities getting worse: UK govt report

Some UK communities are "worryingly" segregated and government's failure to tackle social and economic isolation, particularly among Muslims, is playing into the hands of extremists, a government-commissioned report released Monday said.

Louise Casey, a senior civil servant, said her study exposed "uncomfortable truths" about the impact of large-scale immigration, in particular discrimination against women in some South Asian communities in the country.

"Inequality within certain communities in these highly segregated areas is getting worse, not better," she told the BBC. Casey highlighted issues in areas that have high concentrations of Muslims of Pakistani and Bangladeshi heritage.

She said that people of Pakistani and Bangladeshi origin were more likely to live in residentially segregated communities than other ethnic minority groups, pointing to areas where up to 85 per cent of residents were Muslim.

Casey warned that many people in those areas did not have the same opportunities as others across Britain, often because they did not speak English, and also because cultural and religious practices held them back.

This was particularly true of women, and Casey warned that domestic abuse, female genital mutilation and forced marriage remained "all too prevalent" in some communities.

"It is the misogyny and the patriarchy that has to come to an end. Leaders that are not Muslim and are Muslim need to unite around unity in this country," she told the BBC.

She admitted her findings would put further pressure on Britain's 2.8 million Muslims, amid concerns about rising Islamophobia.

But in a foreword to the report, she warned: "A failure to talk about all this only leaves the ground open for the far-right on one side and Islamist extremists on the other. Every person, in every community, in every part of Britain, should feel a part of our nation and have every opportunity to succeed in it. There can be no exceptions to that by gender, colour or creed."

Government officials had reportedly sought to water-down the study, which was commissioned by former prime minister David Cameron last year, because of its controversial findings.

'Inflammatory, divisive'
Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government Sajid Javid said the report was a "valuable contribution".

"We need to take a serious look at the facts and must not shy away from the challenges we face," he said.

But Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, a Muslim lobby group, condemned it as "inflammatory and divisive".

"Sadly, in today's Britain, Muslims are seen as an easy target to attack by politicians, commentators and parts of the media without any regard for the impact this has on communities," he said.

"There was no mention about the responsibility of the white community to help with integration, as many white families flee mixed areas as ethnic minorities move into a particular area," Shafiq added.

He also noted that the government had cut funding for English language classes ─ one of Casey's recommendations to improve integration.

The report also said immigrants should take an oath of integration with British values and society on arrival in the country, rather than waiting until their final citizenship test.

Casey urged the promotion of British laws, history and values within the core school curriculum to build "integration, tolerance, citizenship and resilience".

She also called for greater mixing among young people through activities such as sport, and efforts to raise employment levels among marginalised groups.
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Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis (9-8-2014)

Postby Falijee » 06 Dec 2016 22:19

NEW ISLAMIC FATWA: A father’s lust for his daughter is not a sin if the daughter is over 9 years old :roll:
Diyanet is the highest religious authority in Turkey and the final authority in interpretation of Islam. It controls the country’s 85,000 mosques.
Recently the authority issued a fatwa – an interpretation of Islamic rules – which created intense debate.To a question from a believer, Diyanet replied that from an Islamic view it had no impact on a marriage “if a father kisses his daughter with lust.”It was also, according to Diyanet, no sin “if the father looks at his daughter and feels lust.” The daughter must, however, “be over nine years old.”
This fatwa comes shortly after another fatwa from Diyanet, which said that engaged couples should not hold hands, because it could lead to other things, things that are haram (illegal) in Islam. In some countries it could even give grown men a reason to pick up stones and throw them at the couple until they are dead.Put the two latest fatwas together and it gives a view of sexuality in Islam that is completely unreal and disgusting seen with Western eyes.
And , this "modern" country insists on joining the EU :evil:

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Postby Falijee » 06 Dec 2016 22:21

In a Singapore office cafeteria, Muslims have taken over the office microwave and declared it 'Halal Only'. What next? No Chinese or Hindus? :evil:

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Postby Agnimitra » 07 Dec 2016 10:17

One country to watch in a Trump-Putin world will be Turkey, going by the chatter. Last year I had posted material of prominent Islamist eschatologists hobnobbing with Russian Orthodoxy and claiming the "Ottomans" were part of the Dajjal, etc. Now those same guys are very happy about Trump's election.
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Postby Rishi Verma » 07 Dec 2016 10:22

Falijee wrote:In a Singapore office cafeteria, Muslims have taken over the office microwave and declared it 'Halal Only'. What next? No Chinese or Hindus? :evil:


Saar, they declared the microwave to be halal, not the food. Perhaps the microwave was made in Saudi Arabia after fridin prayers but it died a slow death so they declared it halal and draped it in green towel.

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Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis (9-8-2014)

Postby arun » 07 Dec 2016 16:05

X Posted from the “J&K News and Discussion – 2016” thread.

It is very regrettable that we Indian’s seem not to have learned anything from the flooding of the North East of our country by illegal Bangladeshi origin Mohammadden migrants from Bangladesh and we now are being lax about illegal migration of Bangladeshi origin Mohammaddens from Myanmar into Jammu. I hope that our BJP led Government, both at New Delhi and in J&K State, will act firmly against illegal migration to leave no possibility of changing the religious demographic of the Jammu part of J&K so that the future will not see the Non-Mohammadden Sikh and Hindu population of Jammu meeting the same fate of Hindu Kashmiri Pandits who were forced out of their ancestral lands in the Kashmir Vale:

Rohingya Muslims find new home in Jammu

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Postby Haresh » 07 Dec 2016 20:21

White people must play a role in integration too

Miqdaad Versi

My favourite comment:


YouBloominLefties 2d ago
"I always wondered why, in my experience, do Indians seems to integrate so well? They keep hold of lots of traditions, teach their children about their heritage etc. but just seem to get on. They came here with nothing, have a strong work ethic, have a very diverse success rate financially, and yet they integrate so much better than some other groups."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ew-muslims

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Postby arun » 07 Dec 2016 21:09

The Chickens of an ill-advised policy of providing refuge to adherents of Mohammaddenism hailing from Mohammadden majority countries comes home to roost. Arrest of a juvenile Mohammadden refugee from Afghanistan for the rape and murder of a 19-year-old German Medical student, Maria Ladenburger, in the University town of Freiburg has “turned into a political maelstrom” in Germany:

Arrest of refugee in rape and slaying in Germany threatens Merkel's immigration policy

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Postby Singha » 08 Dec 2016 03:57

Some 10k jobless jihadis in idlib will soon be heading west for a new life and to attack any uncovered meat and to plant the flag of the khalifa

EU is in for fun times....the harvest of the seeds they sowed is coming home, is coming home :mrgreen:

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Postby arun » 08 Dec 2016 12:55

Surin Pitsuwan, Buddhist majority Thailand’s former Foreign Minister who also served as a former Secretary-General of Asean, wrongly castigates the efforts of fellow Buddhist majority Myanmar to secure herself from the belligerent activities of illegal Bangladeshi origin Mohammadden migrants in Myanmar’s Rakhine State. Most unfortunate to see a seasoned politician like Surin Pitsuwan caught in the time warp of Thai antipathy for Burmans (ie: natives of Burma aka Myanmar) resulting from wars in the 16th and 18th centuries and adopting a Kaafir Dhimmi like attitude to efforts by fellow Dharmic Myanmar to limit the effects of Mohammadden belligerence:

Asia’s Moral Duty to the Rohingya

As far as the above Wall Street Journal headline regards "Asia's Moral Duty" goes, I feel the plea will not cut any ice with "Asia" as countries with Mohammadden majorities such as Bangladesh, Indonesia and Malaysia have actually done next to nothing to take in and support their co-religionists.

Meanwhile the New York Times reports that Mohammadden belief fuelled separatist violence causes 6 deaths in Thailand:

Muslim Separatist Militants in Thailand Kill 6 Civilians

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Postby Haresh » 08 Dec 2016 20:09

arun wrote:It is very regrettable that we Indian’s seem not to have learned anything


"Chief minister Mehbooba Mufti told the state assembly this June that about 13,400 Myanmarese and Bangladeshi migrants are living in camps in Jammu. Bathindi Ka Plot is home to the highest number of Rohingya migrants — 686 in total."

Does this mean that Article 370 has been revoked by and in favour of a certain peace loving community?

"However, security forces see this Rohingya population as a potential threat in the militancy-hit state close to a hostile neighbour.

The insecurity grew after one of the two foreign militants killed in a shootout in south Kashmir last October turned out to be a native of Myanmar. A military official called them a ticking time bomb."

I despair sometimes, it is suicide. :x :x :x

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Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis (9-8-2014)

Postby Manish_P » 09 Dec 2016 11:09

^ Not suicide, but murder.

Carefully planned and cleverly executed deliberate muder being put into action by forces(both internal and external) opposed to Bharat, using willing traitors and uncomprehending/plain clueless/non-caring others.

Only the tools change over the decades - earlier the pakis, then the bangladeshis and now the myanmarese

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Postby Rishi Verma » 09 Dec 2016 11:48

Jabbar from Magaluru Arrested for Making Derogatory Comments about Goddesses on Facebook

"Jabbar had posted offensive content pertaining to some goddesses. With the content widely shared on social media and also through Whatsapp among many in Mangaluru, communal tension started to spread in the region. Police stepped in to track down the profiles and apprehended Jabbar," said an investigating officer. Mangaluru police registered a case under section 153 A(promoting enmity between different groups on grounds of religion) and 295 A(deliberate and malicious acts, intended to outrage religious feelings of any class by insulting religious beliefs) in connection to the online content.

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Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis (9-8-2014)

Postby arun » 09 Dec 2016 22:35

Mohammadden belief inspired group Boko Haram carries out twin suicide attacks using female suicide bombers on the Mohammadden Sabbath of Friday in Madagali, Nigeria which was formerly occupied by Boko Haram. Attack is most likely a case of Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden violence as Madagali is in Mohammadden majority Adamawa State of Nigeria. Attack is reported to have killed 30 :

Boko Haram Terrorists kill 30 in twin suicide attacks in Nigeria

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Postby Falijee » 09 Dec 2016 23:00

Indonesians Want Sharia !

AP Top News
Indonesia blasphemy protest swells to crowd of 200,000
JAKARTA, Indonesia (AP) — At least 200,000 conservative Muslims rallied in the Indonesian capital on Friday in the second major protest in a month against its minority Christian governor who is being prosecuted for alleged blasphemy.President Joko "Jokowi" Widodo, who is a political ally of the Jakarta governor, Basuki "Ahok" Tjahaja Purnama, and angered hard-liners by being out of the city during the first protest, unexpectedly went to the national monument to join Friday prayers with the sprawling crowd. He called for protesters to disperse peacefully. They cheered and then broke into chants calling for Ahok's arrest, but later people were streaming peacefully out of the area into a main thoroughfare of the city.
In Malsi countries, Friday is always "reserved" for venting out frustration ; frustration barometer depends on the "quality" of the khutba by the Imam ; depending on the nature of the society (e.g. Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran ), it can turn violent as well ; visible and identifiable minorities should be advised to "stay indoors" :evil:
Organizers had agreed to concentrate the protest around the vaulting monument to reduce disruptions but the area quickly overflowed. National Police spokesman Rikwanto, who goes by one name, said police estimated 200,000 people were on the streets. Police say 22,000 officers and 5,000 soldiers can be called on to ensure the demonstration stays orderly.A protest Nov. 4 against Ahok, the first ethnic Chinese to be Jakarta governor and the first Christian in half a century, attracted about 100,000 people. After nightfall, it turned violent, with one death and dozens injured. Police want Friday's protest to disperse in the early afternoon following prayers.
Ethnic Chinese have been accused of "economic exploitation " !
The crowds massed in the area of the national monument formed a sea of white that spilled into surrounding streets while gridlocked motorists sat on the sidewalks. Some held huge banners calling Ahok a blasphemer who should be jailed while others chanted and prayed. The blasphemy controversy erupted in September when a video circulated online in which Ahok criticized detractors who argued the Quran prohibits Muslims from having a non-Muslim leader.
It has challenged the image of Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation, as practicing a moderate form of Islam ( IMO, different parts of Indonesia , practice different "forms" of Islam ) and has shaken the government of Jokowi, who accused unnamed political actors of trying to undermine him. The son of former president Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono is vying against Ahok for Jakarta governor in elections set for February.
Lisnawati Djohar, a resident of West Sumatra's Padang city, ( Sumatra is a "hotbed" of radicalism ) said she flew to Jakarta with a dozen friends for the protest."I've been called to defend Islam," she said. "As a Muslim, I feel guilty if I refuse a demand to defend my religion. I believe Ahok insulted the holy Quran and it's hurt us."
Rizieq Syihab, leader of the Islamic Defenders Front, a vigilante group that helped organize the demonstrations, gave a fiery speech to the protest in which he asserted Indonesia would be peaceful if there was no blasphemy and other problems such as gays.
The role of Pakistan and Saudi based Imams cannot be ruled out for the radicalization
The accusation of blasphemy has animated the political opponents of Ahok and Jokowi, including hard-liners who have used the issue to seize a national stage for their extreme agenda, which includes Shariah law.Ahok's blasphemy case took a step forward Thursday when it was formally accepted for trial. The offense is punishable by up to five years in prison.Police say Ahok can't leave the country during the case. However, hard-line Muslim groups continue to demand he be arrested.
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