Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis (9-8-2014)

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Postby Cyrano » 23 Oct 2020 02:59

Kjo, indeed. The 19 y old perpetrator's parents immigrated from Russia as Tchechen refugees and were granted asylum status, presumably because they were fleeing "persecution".

Whenever any right leaning voices speak about integration or assimilation the liberal left feigns righteous indignation. Once the horror of this gruesome incident wears off I wouldn't be surprised if they go back to painting these radical islamists as "victims" of alienation, cultural dislocation, radicalisation(!)... whatever.

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Postby darshan » 23 Oct 2020 15:52

islamists go through all this hassle for their religion and it's pure islamophobic to not have any reference to islam and religious act of jihad in the headline.

Seven Britons 'of Pakistani origin' including two minors are arrested in Paris for 'trying to run over a cop outside Israeli embassy'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... bassy.html
Seven Britons were in custody in Paris today in connection with the attempted 'hit and run' murder of a police officer outside the Israeli Embassy in France.

The four men and three women have not been named but are said to be Londoners of Pakistani origin, who were travelling in a Mercedes and a BMW with false number plates.

Their vehicles were filmed threatening the policeman outside the hugely secure Embassy close to the Champs Elysée on Monday night.

'They suddenly deviated from their direction of travel and rushed towards the officer, who narrowly escaped' said an investigating source.
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Postby Rsatchi » 23 Oct 2020 17:20

Here is Mr Mustafa distributing his gyan.
Main thrust of his talk on How it is all due to Hindus and not due to Islamic rigidity.
https://youtu.be/IsxqPD5-BKg
conveniently brushes aside : Moplah genocide, Khilafat movement, Voting in 1943 elections, etc.
Wants the abduls to join now with the SC/ST and Tribal and farmers etc to take on the hindus.
Wants more lawyers etc fighting in the courts.
These are the types of people whom I would call ' Secular ke aad mein Bigot'( :lol: :lol: sorry could not stop bringing in bollywood and a pun on a famous song)

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Postby darshan » 24 Oct 2020 02:20

This practice of not giving news space to jihad and not acknowledginy islamic rights needs to stop. #islamophobia

These 21 wanted to see islam everywhere after this jihad and news agencies are spoiling their plans by hiding all details.

Police make 21 arrests as part of investigation into child sexual exploitatio
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... t-19130421
Five men, aged between 19 and 20, were arrested on Thursday (October 15) on suspicion of engaging in sexual activity with a female child.

GMP say the arrests at addresses in Bolton, Bury and Chorley were made in connection with reports of child sexual exploitation between 2016 and 2018.

The arrests bring the total number of people held as part of an operation codenamed Pavarotti to 21.

Eight men were also arrested on October 6 on suspicion of offences including the rape of a female child and engaging in sexual activity with a female child.

Eight arrests had already been made in relation to the investigation, which was launched in June 2018 following reports of offences committed against teenage girls in Bolton.

All 21 men - aged between 18 and 58 - have been released on bail with conditions.
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Postby Cain Marko » 24 Oct 2020 06:41

KJo wrote:This wokeness has come to bite them.
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This seems to be fake newj:
https://www.altnews.in/surendra-poonia-passes-off-unrelated-photo-as-teacher-recently-killed-in-france/

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Postby sudarshan » 24 Oct 2020 07:03

Cain Marko wrote:This seems to be fake newj:
[url]https://www.altnews.in/surendra-poonia-passes-off-unrelated-photo-as-teacher-recently-killed-in-


I thought as much. It was a little too convenient and coincidental, and besides, it didn't make sense that the placards would be in English. Not to stereotype, but those French don't have very high opinions of English. I was trying to read what was written on the vans behind, guess I was on the right track. Didn't occur to me to try and find a larger picture to read the vans.

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Postby IndraD » 26 Oct 2020 00:55

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/g ... et-cartoon
Kuwait retail co-ops remove French products in boycott over Prophet cartoon

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Postby Cyrano » 26 Oct 2020 01:22

In the photo above, the double yellow lines and Flo yellow vests of the police are both indices that its NOT France. Apart from the fact that the placards would be in French.

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Postby IndraD » 26 Oct 2020 02:33

could be representational

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Postby Haresh » 26 Oct 2020 03:23

Cyrano wrote:In the photo above, the double yellow lines and Flo yellow vests of the police are both indices that its NOT France. Apart from the fact that the placards would be in French.


That's the UK.
The Police van is parked on the left side of the road, the double yellow lines are UK style, police uniforms are UK police and the chimney in the back ground is typical of terraced UK houses.

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Child abuse inquiry ‘scared of racist tag’
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news ... -nh2zcctwq
The national inquiry into child abuse refused to investigate Britain’s most notorious sex-grooming scandals and barred key witnesses from giving evidence, it has been revealed.

Victims and experts blamed the decision not to examine mass offending in Rotherham and Rochdale on a “cowardly” reluctance to look at a pattern of group crimes in which men of Pakistani heritage have been over-represented.

Those dismayed by the public inquiry’s failure to hear their evidence include Sarah Champion, the campaigning Rotherham MP, and Nazir Afzal, a former chief crown prosecutor who brought to justice the Rochdale sex-grooming gang.
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Chinese state-run channel shows the portrait of Prophet Muhammad, netizens ask if Muslim nations will boycott China
https://www.opindia.com/2020/10/prophet ... nnel-cctv/
Amidst the widespread controversy that has erupted over the depiction of caricatures of Prophet Muhammad in France, a video of a TV series telecast on a Chinese state-run TV channel China Central Television (CCTV) has gone viral on the internet.

Arslan Hidayat, an Uyghur Rights Activist, took to Twitter share a video of a Chinese TV series that depicts a scene of an Arab ambassador visiting China during the rule of Tang dynasty. The Arab ambassador can be seen gifting a portrait of the Prophet Muhammad to the Chinese emperor.
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Starts at around 3:00. Worth watching in full if you have the time.

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Postby Rsatchi » 29 Oct 2020 16:59

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/e ... -dhp-feeds
Huff Post says Labour leadership harassed Jewish members and there was political interference in the complaints!!
World-wide there is infiltration of the Jihadists (in the garb of moderates and seculars) in the left wing or centre-left parties.
Seeing what is happening in France, this could easily replicate in the other countries!!
With idiots like Dimran/Turdogan et al giving a clarion call for Abduls to take up the cudgel! we will see a wave of such incidents along with the CORONA second wave.
Wonder these are coordinated somehow by the Chin/Napk/Turks and the menagerie of terror groups!!
Rather than one spectacular 'big bang' these smaller incidents could keep the 'pot boiling' and yet not invite any serious inspection/UN measures etc.

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Postby Rsatchi » 29 Oct 2020 20:16

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/j ... -dhp-feeds
wow!!
How far the mighty have fallen
J (Mohammed) Corbyn suspended from labour party!!
Maybe expelled if charges against him proven.

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Postby Philip » 29 Oct 2020 22:51

The butchering of 3 more
French citizens,this time inside a church in Nice,remember the 86 butchered not long ago on Bastille Day in Nice,shows that Islamists have declared war of France and the civilised world including India.Rogue states like Pakistan,Turkey and the megalomaniacal ,mentally deranged leaders are celebrating these brutal attacks all inthe name of defending Islam. The silence of global Muslims is simply deafening! By their silence,like the silence of Germans when Jews were being hauled off to the concentration camps there to be exterminated with extreme prejuduce and speed, these Muslims who live in the Christian west are equally culpable by their silent applause of the macabre,murderous handiwork of their fellow believers in a warped faith of hate and evil that is the greatest problem the civilised world faces along with the Chinese neo- Nazi threat of global domination.Strangely,these two evils are the two sides of
the same coin in use in Pakistan and the PRC against India.

Deportation of all Muslim refugeesfrom Europe is the only answer,in Britain with over 6 million rscist Muslims it may already be too late.

PS Jeremy Corbyn's real name has been revealed to be:
Kabir-bin-Jamari!

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Postby Cyrano » 30 Oct 2020 00:05

In parallel to the islamist attack on a church in Nice today morning, in which an islamic terrorist shouting "Allah hu Akbar" beheaded an old lady in her seventies, stabbed to death a guardian of the church and fatally stabbed a woman passer by in her forties, the French police apparently foiled 2 other terrorist attempts. A sword wielding man was shot dead by the police in Avignon when he did not heed to police instructions.

Report of an attack on the French consulate by a man in Saudi Arabia. Reports of protests against France from various Middle East countries, many supermarkets and shops have started removing French products from shelves. Erdogan shouting his mouth off and fanning the flames.

The objective is clear - make the French people cringe in fear when they go out. Or speak up or draw cartoons. Or require no veil in public spaces. And that aint gonna happen.

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Postby Cyrano » 30 Oct 2020 00:41

More details on the Nice church stabbing Islamic attack:

Attacker a 21-year-old Tunisian migrant identified as Brahim Aoussaoui

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Postby darshan » 30 Oct 2020 02:29

https://apnews.com/article/religion-nic ... 488e9dda6a
PARIS (AP) — The Latest on a knife attack in Nice, France, (all times local):
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Twitter removed a tweet from former Malaysian leader Mahathir Mohamad for glorifying violence but France’s digital minister demanded the company also ban him from its platform.
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Postby sanjaykumar » 30 Oct 2020 02:33

Tut tut tut. Can you believe the amount of religious conflict in Western Europe? It is worse than the tribal conflicts in Aaafrica.


The geriatric ghazi’s views on Islam should be widely disseminated, why censor him?

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Postby saip » 30 Oct 2020 04:47

"BREAKING - Erdogan: "Our Muslim brothers and sisters are raising their voices about the sins of Europe. May God help up."
And I replied "This guy deserves a coup and a guillotine"
What do you know? My account is suspended becuase they said I am advocating violence. Who runs twitter?

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Postby Manish_P » 30 Oct 2020 14:51

Islamism abroad reflected locally...

French President Emmanuel Macron's posters pasted on Mumbai road

Posters of French President Emmanuel Macron were pasted over a road at Muhammad Ali Road in south Mumbai on Thursday. A video clip of vehicles driving over the posters had gone viral.

Soon after getting the information, Pydhonie police reached the spot and removed all the posters.

"No case has been registered against anyone," said Mumbai Police spokesperson S Chaitanya.

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Postby Venkarl » 30 Oct 2020 15:24

KJo wrote:Hey, I thought "Islam means Peace". :roll:

Is it that easy to behead a person? The neck bones are pretty strong. Unless one takes a large heavy sword and repeatedly chops at it.


Slitting the throat will first disable the victim from putting up a fight and then one has to to hit the neck bone multiple times with a sharp edged knife while pulling the head away from the body by holding hair tightly. That's when these barbarians proudly proclaim "***** hu akbar".

Mods: Delete the post if the writing is too gory but that's a fact. One has to remember the rage and clinical mindset of such barbarians while beheading kaafirs.

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Postby darshhan » 30 Oct 2020 17:28

Venkarl wrote:
KJo wrote:Hey, I thought "Islam means Peace". :roll:

Is it that easy to behead a person? The neck bones are pretty strong. Unless one takes a large heavy sword and repeatedly chops at it.


Slitting the throat will first disable the victim from putting up a fight and then one has to to hit the neck bone multiple times with a sharp edged knife while pulling the head away from the body by holding hair tightly. That's when these barbarians proudly proclaim "***** hu akbar".

Mods: Delete the post if the writing is too gory but that's a fact. One has to remember the rage and clinical mindset of such barbarians while beheading kaafirs.


Knife has to be large and heavy. Just like those used by a butcher.

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Postby darshan » 30 Oct 2020 17:44

Halal meat eaters can never be capable of this. One more attempt to malign islam.

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Postby darshan » 31 Oct 2020 19:31

nothing is more peaceful than the deliverance of islamic peace. Mosques breed peace like mosquitoes. Ban them?

Ah, the fear. How mighty whites have fallen. It also brings sadness to know that how easy it would have been too scare and kick whites off of various colonies that they had occupied. A simple exposure to peaceful world would have been enough.

Councillor Beverley Dunlop said she has received death threats
https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/ ... h-threats/
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onservative Beverley Dunlop, who represents Moordown, said she received three calls from an unknown man on Wednesday night during which he threatened to decapitate her.

BCP Council said it was “very alarmed” and Dorset Police said it was trying to track the person responsible.

Cllr Dunlop was cleared of breaching the council’s code of conduct by its standards committee earlier this month after Facebook posts she made prompted a formal Islamophobia complaint.

In one of the posts, she said fundamentalists were “hiding in plain sight in the Muslim community” and that this would not change “until they are more frightened of the British government (because they and their families might get deported) than they are Isis”.

In another she said: "I hate to ban anything really but I'd suggest we start with mosques."
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Posting on Twitter on Thursday, she said: “Thank you to those who have gleefully and publicly defamed me following a wrongful allegation of Islamophobia.

“Special shout out to the incompetent BCP Council standards committee who kicked it off again.

“Last night a man called three times to tell me I was going to be decapitated.”
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Postby darshan » 31 Oct 2020 20:36

People have unnecessary islamophobia. Being provided islamic home, this non Islamic girl now would be able to utilize all human rights that weren't previously available to her.
Pakistan: Sindh High Court Gives Custody Of 13-Year-Old Minor Christian Girl To Her 44-Year-Old Muslim Abductor
https://swarajyamag.com/insta/pakistan- ... m-abductor
In a shocking incident, the Sindh High Court has granted custody of a 13-year-old minor Christian girl to her 44-year-old abductor, reports Pakistan Christian Post.
The minor girl was kidnapped from her home in Karachi’s Railway Colony on 13 October after which an FIR was registered.
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Hence, the court’s verdict is appearing to be even more appalling. According to reports, more than 1000 Christian and Hindu girls are abducted by Pakistani Muslims in the country every year. Multiple human rights group have also raised concerns over the rampant conversion and abduction of minority women in the region.

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Postby Ambar » 31 Oct 2020 21:02

Scratch the surface of "secular" or "communist" ideologue from a particular community, and out comes the radical from within !

Here's the poster boy of Ganga-Jamuna tehzeeb , famous "shayar" Munawar Rana who was busy glorifying the violence during the ant-CAA protests talking just like any other jihadist.

https://twitter.com/TrulyMonica/status/ ... 7987068929

Also, remember the sadak-chaap poet Rahat Indori who died of covid earlier this year, he spent half of life writing poets which glorified violence against kaafirs, and had disparaging things to say against Hindus but yet when he died so many very tripping over each other to write obituaries/condolences to the bigot.

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Postby darshan » 02 Nov 2020 03:50

islam made in china. in islamic world, chinese carry more power than even Allah and his words.
China Pulls Down Domes, Islamic Decorations From Mosques, Turns Them Into Grey Structures
https://swarajyamag.com/insta/china-pul ... structures
Chinese authorities have been removing Arab style domes, Islamic decorations and Arabic scripts from mosques across the country as evident from the transformation of the main mosque in Yinchuan - the capital of Ningxia province, The Telegraph has reported.

As per the report, in case of the Yinchuan mosque, the Chinese authorities had pulled down the characteristic dome, golden Islamic-style filigree, decorative arches, and Arabic script which adorned the structure. The mosque has been subsequently converted into a grey rectangular facility.

The report adds that visitors are also not being allowed to enter the mosque.
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Postby Ambar » 03 Nov 2020 03:56

Another day, another attack, this time in Vienna, Austria. Islamist terrorists struck several places in Vienna including public transit and Hilton in downtown Vienna. The latest reports indicate 7 dead, and 6 seriously injured. One terrorist has been dispatched to get his 72 and the other is on the loose. I keep asking myself this question, how did Europe colonize and conquer much of this world for centuries despite being this dumb and stupid ?

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Postby darshan » 03 Nov 2020 04:13

The favorite target of islamists. Hindus.
Bangladesh: Muslim mob attacks, burns houses of Hindus over a Facebook post about Charlie Hebdo cartoons
https://www.opindia.com/2020/11/banglad ... -cartoons/

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Postby KJo » 03 Nov 2020 04:58

Ambar wrote:Another day, another attack, this time in Vienna, Austria. Islamist terrorists struck several places in Vienna including public transit and Hilton in downtown Vienna. The latest reports indicate 7 dead, and 6 seriously injured. One terrorist has been dispatched to get his 72 and the other is on the loose. I keep asking myself this question, how did Europe colonize and conquer much of this world for centuries despite being this dumb and stupid ?


Ambar Saar, the difference is that the Europeans in the past were no-nonsense, focused on their goal and did not indulge in virtue-signaling. They did not feel guilty about their deeds, nor did they they allow anyone else to guilt-trip them. Today's Europeans have been emasculated and constantly feel the need to 'atone' for their sins of colonization. They do this by letting immigrants in, and having the world see them do this. While the good immigrants come in and build businesses and contribute to society, the bad immigrants (pakis, beedis, saudis, and various other flavors of AoAs) come in as well, breed at double the rate, going on welfare, demanding extra benefits, not study anything outside of madarassa stuff, and then getting outraged about being 'alienated'.

Peacefools are taking over the world and they never apologize for their actions over the past 1400 years. They never feel guilty for smashing anyone's idols.

Hindus need to rid these PC shackles and work towards a resurgence of Indian civilization.

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Postby Rsatchi » 03 Nov 2020 12:51

Looks like further 'Green Trouble' this time in Austria just before the lockdown
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/vienna- ... e-bigstory
The 'three idiots' will start the usual rhona-dhona asking not to blame 'ROP' and blame Zionist-Hindu Fascists yada-yada

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Postby darshan » 03 Nov 2020 21:18

One can also say that this is Hinduphobia at display as all this crying about islamists disappears when Hindus are killed by islamists.

'Fight Against Islamist Terrorism Is Our Common Struggle': Angela Merkel Expresses Shock At Vienna Attack

https://swarajyamag.com/insta/fight-aga ... nna-attack

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Postby darshan » 05 Nov 2020 19:40

#islam #prophet

Watch: Guard who killed a bank manager over ‘blasphemy’ in Pakistan greeted by Islamists with cheers and kisses
https://www.opindia.com/2020/11/pakista ... blasphemy/
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In one such viral video shared by Pakistani activist Rahat Austin, Ahmad Nawaz, the security guard who shot a manager of the National Bank of Pakistan branch in Quaidabad tehsil of Khushab, accusing him of blasphemy, is seen leading a fanatic crowd of supporters which greets him and raises slogans in his favour as they walk together on the street. Amidst loud cheers and slogans, one person appears from the crowd and kisses the guard.
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Postby jamwal » 06 Nov 2020 14:09

Worth reading in full

https://indianexpress.com/article/opini ... m-6968210/

The moderate Muslim must address the reality of many lived Islams
The moderate Muslim must not seek to explain away violence in the name of Islam with whataboutery, but must face up to the problems with lived Islam.


It is evident from the responses to the latest killings in Paris and Vienna in the name of Islam and its Prophet that even the “moderate Muslim” still “doesn’t get it”. After every fresh act of gruesome murder or terror attack by Muslims, the “moderate Muslim” does cursorily condemn the killing but quickly rushes to absolve Islam of any blame.

He culls out certain verses from the Qur’an and some handpicked ahadis (plural of hadis, the tradition of Prophet Mohammed) to emphatically affirm that “Islam means peace”. The problem with this argument is that the extremist Muslim perpetrators of, and the masterminds behind, all the violence in the name of faith also quote from the same Qur’an and hadis compilations. The Islam-means-peace chant offers no solution because it fails to address the recurring question: If Islam means peace, why is there so much violence across the globe in its name?

Is Islam a religion of peace or violence? It is neither a religion of peace nor of violence, argues Reza Aslan, an Iranian-American scholar of religious studies and author of several books on Islam and Christianity. “Islam, like every other religion”, says Aslan, “is what its followers make of it.”

“Whatever else Islam, as any other religion, may be, it is also that which is interpreted, lived out, aspired towards, ignored and debated among ordinary individuals and communities,” writes Farid Esack, a theologian and Imam from South Africa. Mahatma Gandhi, the apostle of peace, drew his inspiration from the Gita and so did Nathuram Godse, his assassin. So it is with the Qur’an.


The moderate Muslim could begin to be taken seriously were he to honestly address the reality of the many lived Islams instead of obsessing with the myth of “true” or “real” Islam. Because he refuses to do so, the world ends up seeing him for what he really is — an Islam apologist seeking refuge in whataboutery, searching for “root causes” everywhere except in his religion (lived and textual), “exposing” Western hypocrisy and double standards and asking what he believes to be the mother of all questions, “Is there to be no limit to freedom of expression, what if someone insults your father?”

Whataboutery: What about violence by Buddhists…? A simple answer: Yes, far too many Buddhists in Sri Lanka and Myanmar have hate in their hearts and blood on their hands, but they don’t kill in the name of the Buddha.

The root cause: Look for the root cause in geopolitics, colonialism, neo-colonialism etc., look anywhere except religion. This is a line that moderate Muslims have borrowed from many left intellectuals about whom Ghassan Hage, a Lebanese academic based in Australia, has this to say on Facebook: “If your first reaction to the vile Islamo-fascist terrorist attacks in Conflans-Sainte-Honorine and Nice is to go through the violent and racist history of French colonialism and postcolonialism, etc, you are ethically bankrupt.”

Limits to freedom of expression line: Here the moderate Muslim is in his element, “exposing” the link between the contentious cartoons of Prophet Mohammed today and the historical hostility of the Christian West towards Islam and its Prophet. The cartoons, we are told, are part of a “sustained, insidious propaganda” to incite hatred for the Prophet and fuel Islamophobia in the guise of free speech. Also “exposed” is the hypocrisy and double standards of the West in the selective exercise of free speech only vis-a-vis Muslims. To this one is tempted to respond: Look, who is talking.
Perhaps, it will be news to the moderate Muslim that France, like much of Europe, has laws against “hate crimes” such as racism and xenophobia — which includes anti-religious hate crime. Surprise, surprise, France even has hate speech laws. Those laws protect individuals and groups from being defamed or insulted because they belong or do not belong, in fact or in fancy, to an ethnicity, a nation, a race, a religion, a sex, a sexual orientation, or a gender identity or because they have a handicap. The laws forbid any communication which is intended to incite discrimination against, hatred of, or harm to anyone because of his belonging or not belonging, in fact or in fancy, to an ethnicity, a nation, a race, a religion, a sex, a sexual orientation, or a gender identity, or because he or she has a handicap.

So, yes, even France sets limits to freedom of expression. But there, the basic principle is this: Ideas do not have rights, people do. As the French see it, you, your father and your mother are protected against hate speech because you fall under the definition of people. God, gods, goddesses, prophets fall under the definition of ideas, and ideas are not to be protected from “defamation”. This is so because, universally, the freedom of expression is believed to be meaningless without the “right to offend”. For the French, the right to offend includes not only the right to express doubt, question, criticise, ridicule, mock and provoke but also the right to insult and outrage. Did not Prophet Mohammed greatly offend people of his own clan/tribe by saying things which they considered to be highly blasphemous?

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Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis (9-8-2014)

Postby Aditya_V » 06 Nov 2020 15:43

This is writen by Javed Anand- clearly Takia, he and his wife in the past have accused ISIS of being Hindus.



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