Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct 2014
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If you go here, and magnify the image
http://www.english.rfi.fr/sites/images. ... N-ARMY.JPG
you can clearly read "Uzbekistan Armed Forces".
http://www.english.rfi.fr/sites/images. ... N-ARMY.JPG
you can clearly read "Uzbekistan Armed Forces".
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Another Aman ki Asha type TV show but Om Puri showed the Lahoris their place
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^^^ the colors on that Uzbekistani badge must be derived from this below, so the bottom color is green, not blue.
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Perhaps a reason why it was important for India and Pakistan to be dehyphenated and for Pakistanis and Baluchis or Pakistanis and Pushtuns to be hyphenated.venkat_r wrote:Americans love to support the underdog - The understanding that Pakistan a underdog is fighting the Big Bad India - and America jumping to help the underdog always give them a release. In all American stories (and even Indian ones) a super hero comes to the rescue of the underdog. So this is going to be a easier story to sell to the public and has been for several decades, which explains the rationale on why it is easy to extend that logic and say the poor beaten down Pakistan had to resort to unconventional methods to fight the Big Bad India - This story has been repeated and still has some traction.
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Brilliant. yes, indeed. (I mean the top color was blue and the middle was white..could not see the bottom green stripe on my phone)A_Gupta wrote:If you go here, and magnify the image
http://www.english.rfi.fr/sites/images. ... N-ARMY.JPG
you can clearly read "Uzbekistan Armed Forces".
from wikipedia
The troops are wearing different camo during the 1998 Osprey exercise. So this is from the NATO exercise in 2004, right after Pakistan was made a NATO MuNNA. The B(III) sign on the soldier's shirt probably stands for the 3rdBn Royal Welsh Regiment..must be some military exercise protocol thing, don't know. This photo is from Sep 2004 it appears.Uzbek troops participated in Partnership for Peace Exercise Cooperative Osprey '96 at Camp Lejeune in North Carolina, hosted by the United States Marine Corps. They then participated as well in Exercise Cooperative Osprey '98.
In September 2004, the (then) Royal Welsh Regiment (now 3rd Bn The Royal Welsh) of the British Army participated with the Uzbek Army Peacekeeping Battalion in "Exercise Timurlane Express" in the Farish Mountain Training Area.[citation needed] This was a 3-week NATO sponsored Partnership for Peace training exercise.
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or the AF-PAKRajeshA wrote:Perhaps a reason why it was important for India and Pakistan to be dehyphenated and for Pakistanis and Baluchis or Pakistanis and Pushtuns to be hyphenated.venkat_r wrote:Americans love to support the underdog - The understanding that Pakistan a underdog is fighting the Big Bad India - and America jumping to help the underdog always give them a release. In all American stories (and even Indian ones) a super hero comes to the rescue of the underdog. So this is going to be a easier story to sell to the public and has been for several decades, which explains the rationale on why it is easy to extend that logic and say the poor beaten down Pakistan had to resort to unconventional methods to fight the Big Bad India - This story has been repeated and still has some traction.
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^^^that Uzbeki camouflage pattern was introduced 2012 or earliest 2009, if this web-page is to be believed.
http://camopedia.org/index.php?title=Uzbekistan
http://camopedia.org/index.php?title=Uzbekistan
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Americans have to be informed the under-dog is an under-wolf or really a werewolf.
Also we need more bio-data of RR to understand the situation.
Also we need more bio-data of RR to understand the situation.
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Slowly Modi is putting in place strategy to take TSP apart.
His successful visit to Australia neuters one of the most recalcitrant backers of TSP.
The elections in J&K and repeal of Art 370 is a very important step to PIP.
It merges K in Pakistan and removes the hope of TSP that they can gain Kashmir.
It negates the US card.
PRC political leaders are already with Modi.
The PLA is a holdout but will see reason soon.
His successful visit to Australia neuters one of the most recalcitrant backers of TSP.
The elections in J&K and repeal of Art 370 is a very important step to PIP.
It merges K in Pakistan and removes the hope of TSP that they can gain Kashmir.
It negates the US card.
PRC political leaders are already with Modi.
The PLA is a holdout but will see reason soon.
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Brilliant work by A.Gupta and you.Tuvaluan wrote: This photo is from Sep 2004 it appears.
The photo cannot be from c. 2004 because Raheel's lapel has 3 stars (a Lt. Gen) which he was not in c. 2004, IMO.
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No Modi-Sharif meeting on Saarc fringes for now, but India to go ‘fully prepared’ - Sachin Parashar, ToI
Though India officially continues to maintain there is no proposal for a bilateral meeting between PM Narendra Modi and his Pakistani counterpart Nawaz Sharif on the sidelines of the Saarc summit in Kathmandu next week, the government will go fully prepared for the same, official sources here said.
An official source said given the format of the summit starting November 26, it may not be possible to not have any meeting with Sharif. "Both sides will go prepared even if there is no formal proposal yet,'' said the official.
Unlike in the case of UNGA this year, Modi and Sharif will be together at the summit venue for a considerable period of time. Modi will have bilateral meetings with all other Saarc leaders during his stay in Kathmandu. The fact that they were not at UNGA on the same day helped rule out any possibility of a 'pull aside' or even a handshake in New York in September.
India cancelled the August 25 foreign secretary-level dialogue after Pakistan high commissioner Abdul Basit met J&K separatist leaders days ahead of the scheduled meeting. Modi himself accused Pakistan of making a spectacle out of a genuine Indian outreach by his NDA government after it just came to power. Basit though sought to ameliorate the situation recently when he expressed hope that the dialogue process would resume soon and recalled external affairs minister Sushma Swaraj's remark in September that there are no full stops in diplomacy.
Speaking in Hyderabad, Basit {Why is a Pakistani High Commissioner allowed to visit a sensitive city like Hyderabad? On top of that, there is even a proposal to accord 'sister city' status to Hyderabad, Deccan and Hyderabad, Sind? This is dangerous with people who claim that Hyderabad was annexed by India with force now in power in Telengana} thesaid there is convergence of agendas being pursued by both the PMs. "The effort should be to see that relations are built. The agenda of our Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif saab is economic development. And the agenda of Prime Minister Modi saab is also development. The agendas of both governments meet. There is convergence. So, there is no reason why we cannot face the challenges together. The need is that we complement each other," he said. Pakistan, however, continues to maintain that it will not officially propose any dialogue with India as it was New Delhi which called off the last scheduled talks between foreign secretaries.
The relative calm at LoC and International Border in J&K could also possibly facilitate a meeting between the two leaders. If indeed the two leaders meet, Modi is likely to again ask Sharif to expedite the 26/11 trial currently under way in an anti-terrorism court in Lahore. Three prosecution witnesses deposed in the court on Wednesday.
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I think they were testing Om Puri's Punjabiyat. But funny thing is that he was the only real Punjabi in there. Rest of them were just Pakjabis. All in all, it was funny. Om Puri is really witty.SBajwa wrote:Another Aman ki Asha type TV show but Om Puri showed the Lahoris their place
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What good is the Shaheen1A Missile?
4 Self Maithuna Sunnah
( Kaka, yeh Missile Bhi NOKO ka Banna Hua Hai, Paki cant do it)
4 Self Maithuna Sunnah
( Kaka, yeh Missile Bhi NOKO ka Banna Hua Hai, Paki cant do it)
his was the headline that greeted me a few days ago as I logged into my Facebook account. Instinctively, I clicked on it and began reading. The story discussed the launch of a new ballistic missile called the ‘Shaheen1A Missile’ which has the capacity to carry nuclear warheads to a distance of 900 kilometres (km).After skimming through the main news, and skipping the parts of what the naval chief had to say about this, I moved towards the comments section. As expected, patriots, nationalists, and whatever other jingoistic euphemism we use to explain such kind of people, had congratulated the military for making a machine that has the potential to kill millions in a single stroke.What astonishes me most is that these are educated people – people who have the resources to access an online news story, read through it, understand it and have the capacity to voice their own views about it. And yet we see so many martial opinions. These people are accepting of the fact that sectors like education, healthcare, employment, industries and what not have suffered for more than 60 years in this country, all because of our unhealthy obsession with a strong defence force.They do not care that the country, the one this ‘strong’ military is supposed to protect, is being eaten away from within. We are polio-affected, drought-stricken, poverty-ridden, terrorism-infused, illiterate people and many of us do not even have the means to have three square meals a day. People are targeted because of their sects and ethnicities, not a day passes by without a Pakistani’s blood being spilt and yet terrorist outfits roam freely amongst us, killing us bit by bit. What good will this missile do in such a situation? In such a country, how can anyone with a sane mind support the fact that 28.2% of the entire budget is allocated to the military while all other sectors share their bits from the remaining budget?Putting aside the fact that such a huge amount is invested in a sector that does not even contribute to the country’s GDP, does this not bring into question our own priorities as a country?
We tend to mimic India in terms of our defence. If India makes a nuclear bomb, we’ll try to make a bigger one. If India talks to the US for F-16 fighter jets, we’ll ask the US for F-16 fighter jets. If India has a high military budget, we’ll have a higher military budget. But when India works towards making its economy more stable, why don’t we mimic that? When India excels in science and technology, why don’t we try and adopt those ideals? That too, in a way, is India working on its defence. Why don’t we see it like that?
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^A very sensible last paragraph above. But, what to do? From the very early days of Islamist consolidation in the first decade of the previous century, the Muslim elites just wanted to be one-up on the Hindus. This was the rivalry, competition that they set in motion that was sustained, nurtured by the later day AIML and taken to Pakistan where it became full blown.
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It is Uzbekistan. If you zoom the image, it says so on near the flag.A_Gupta wrote:^^^that Uzbeki camouflage pattern was introduced 2012 or earliest 2009, if this web-page is to be believed.
http://camopedia.org/index.php?title=Uzbekistan
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Thanks guys... I also couldn't see the green stripe at the bottom. So, an Uzbek Armed Forces officer. Probably an observer from the embassy at the exercises. Interesting.
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yaar ek baat batao.SBajwa wrote:Another Aman ki Asha type TV show but Om Puri showed the Lahoris their place
from where does this culture of keeping chaar khusre on a typical pakjabi show come from ? Is this a punjabi thing or something from mughal durbar court jester performance ?
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Probably a major act of moderation to be even speaking Punjabi on TV in a snobbishly Urdu-nationalist milieu
Of course until the jihadi publications start coming out in the regional languages
Of course until the jihadi publications start coming out in the regional languages
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It is important to remember the basics: the islamist aholes in Pakistan, KSA, Qatar and Turkey are all on the same side, so any external appearance of divergence is meant for the benefit of external observers. All these guys work together and take decisions in consensus -- Islam keeps them together. I mean, you can't really work against allah's interest can you now, that would be a deviation from the norm of the brainwashed.
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The Uzbek personnel has a document in his breast pocket which, I believe, has 2013 printed on it.A_Gupta wrote:^^^that Uzbeki camouflage pattern was introduced 2012 or earliest 2009, if this web-page is to be believed.
http://camopedia.org/index.php?title=Uzbekistan
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The Pakistani justification for using jihadists and first and reckless use of nuclear weapons against India are increasingly being accepted. The below is yet another instance.
The following is from NightWatch for the night of Nov. 18, 2014
The following is from NightWatch for the night of Nov. 18, 2014
Pakistan-India: Pakistan recently conducted a round of ballistic missile tests. On 26 September, it test fired a salvo of Nasr/Hatf ix tactical nuclear ballistic missiles from a single launcher. On 13 November, it tested a Hatf VI which is a 1,500 km range nuclear and conventionally armed ballistic missile. On 16 November, it test fired a Hatf IV, which has a range of 900 kms and carries nuclear and conventional warheads.
India tested its Prithvi II missile on 15 November. This has a range of 1,260 kms. On 9 November the Indian Army tested the Agni II ballistic missile which has a range of 2,000 kms.
Comment: The missile launches are apparently routine systems or production tests. Cumulatively, the missile activity acts as a form of communication in a language of mutual self-destruction. India has a no first use doctrine. It can afford to have that doctrine because its conventional forces can defeat the Pakistan Army in every war scenario along the border without using nuclear fires. Indian conventional forces are more numerous, better trained and more modern than those of Pakistan.
Pakistan is open about its first use doctrine. It must have such a doctrine because it has no strategic depth and because it knows that Indian conventional forces will destroy Pakistani conventional forces in a short, violent conventional fight. Thus, Pakistan has developed nuclear-capable missile systems to cover every part of all the battlefields with Indian forces and every time horizon.
For example, the Nasr/Hatf IX tactical ballistic missile only has a nuclear warhead. It also was developed to deter and disrupt the Indian "cold start" no warning war plan. India has developed the capability to launch a major conventional war with less than a week of preparations. A nuclear-armed tactical missile system - the Hatf IX -- is Pakistan's response.
Nuclear missiles are Pakistan's only hope for survival in a war with India or in a triangular conflict among India, China and Pakistan.
A former Indian Chief of Air Staff Air Chief Marshal P. V. Naik said, "Tactical or strategic the Nasr is a nuclear weapon. So obviously our response will be absolutely violent. This is as per our existing policy."
The key point is that there is no option for a conventional war between India and Pakistan. Warning of war in South Asia is warning of nuclear war. The missile tests are reminders of that new condition. There is no room for error in US intelligence.
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Pakistan to talk to Kashmiri leaders before dialogue with India: Nawaz Sharif
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 215967.cms
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 215967.cms
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'Pakistan will speak with Kashmiri leaders before it enters into dialogue with India," Sharif said while attending a session of the Kashmir Council in Muzaffarabad, Dawn online reported.
"Before the dialogue with India, I have decided to engage with Kashmiri leaders," he added
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SSridhar garu,SSridhar wrote:The Pakistani justification for using jihadists and first and reckless use of nuclear weapons against India are increasingly being accepted. The below is yet another instance.
Question is does Pakistan retain any semblance of its own power center, or does it submit to the West Asian Islamism. If it does the latter, than it's aukaat is not more than a common fidayeen or a suicide-bomber, and the power center where ever it is - Ankara, Riyadh, Doha, Baghdad may just ask Pakistan to blow itself up.
It is not as if the few top leaders or key commanders need to ask the people or govt. in Pakistan about their opinion on it. They will just do it, that is if West-Asian power centers feel the need for it.
Every level of Pakistan society is cannon-fodder for the next higher level society.
I think it needs to be part of Indian doctrine that any nuclear attack from Pakistan would be responded by taking out all of Paki sponsors - KSA, Qatar, UAE, Turkey, West Iraq!
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Shoudn't that list be expanded to include the PRC?RajeshA wrote: I think it needs to be part of Indian doctrine that any nuclear attack from Pakistan would be responded by taking out all of Paki sponsors - KSA, Qatar, UAE, Turkey, West Iraq!
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Yes, it should, but in lighter humor...komal wrote:Shoudn't that list be expanded to include the PRC?RajeshA wrote: I think it needs to be part of Indian doctrine that any nuclear attack from Pakistan would be responded by taking out all of Paki sponsors - KSA, Qatar, UAE, Turkey, West Iraq!
Guns don't kill. Ideologies do!
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This bravado must be snuffed. There should be no talks at all if that happens. Pakistan is getting emboldened by the day because of improving US support for its roguishness, I reckon.wig wrote:Pakistan to talk to Kashmiri leaders before dialogue with India: Nawaz Sharif
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good insight, but in general, I am a bit more cautious and circumspect in my outlook, and so I am yet to see any tangible reduction TSP's ability to play its old games. But I do understand it is a slow process.ramana wrote:Slowly Modi is putting in place strategy to take TSP apart.
His successful visit to Australia neuters one of the most recalcitrant backers of TSP.
The elections in J&K and repeal of Art 370 is a very important step to PIP.
It merges K in Pakistan and removes the hope of TSP that they can gain Kashmir.
It negates the US card.
PRC political leaders are already with Modi.
The PLA is a holdout but will see reason soon.
Latest reports indicate that ModiJi is not considering removal of art 370 as part of BJP manifesto in J&K elections. Once again, my own cautious reading of this is that it will take time before BJP attempts that however much we want them to.
Finally, I am sure there are back room pressures on ModiJi from TSP's 3.5, and I hope he doesn't fall into that trap. Like some "grand gesture" at the upcoming SAARC summit to score some browny points.
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Gen Sharif, US national security adviser discuss regional security - DT
Chief of Army Staff General Raheel Sharif along with Ambassador Jalil Abbas Jilani met United States National Security Adviser Ambassador Susan Rice at the White House on Thursday.
General Sharif and Ambassador Rice held in-depth discussions on the ongoing Pakistan-US security issues and expressed satisfaction on the overall positive trajectory in the bilateral relationship. Both sides reaffirmed their mutual desire and commitment to strengthen their relationship. He thanked Ambassador Rice for understanding of Pakistan’s perspective on regional security and counter terrorism efforts.
He also apprised Rice on the situation obtaining in the region including violation of ceasefire and shelling by India on the Line of Control and the Working Boundary. Both sides acknowledged the importance of reinforcing stability in Afghanistan. In this regard, Rice appreciated the high level exchanges between Pakistan and Afghanistan following the inauguration of the new unity government led by Ashraf Ghani.
Both sides also recognised the continued need for close coordination and cooperation for ensuring peace and stability in Afghanistan. General Sharif is in Washington for his first official visit to the US on the invitation of the US Army chief of the staff.
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SSJi, as I suspected, from your bolded part, Sharif is playing as per the script. Note the "cease-fire violations BS". Sharif knows exactly what TSP tried because he was the one who gave orders, so either he is stupid and thinks US does not his game, or US is stupid and in fact does not know what exactly transpired at the LoC, and hence TSP's game of the upping the ante and then crying wolf has some impact on US.
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Making of history - Ikram Sahgal, DT
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History was in the making on the afternoon of Friday, November 14, 2014. Throwing aside diplomatic norms, Ashraf Ghani, on his first state visit to Pakistan after being sworn in as Afghanistan’s president, visited the GHQ immediately after landing in Islamabad. Former Pakistani Ambassador to Kabul Rustam Shah Mohmand commented that a foreign head of state heading straight towards a military headquarters on arrival carries a lot more than ceremonial importance: “The Afghan president means business; he knows where the real power rests.” He does indeed! {Wow, the Pakistanis take that as a complement ! }
Ashraf Ghani remarked that he had immediately made up his mind to accept General Raheel Sharif’s invitation to visit the GHQ when the Chief of Army Staff (COAS) had visited Kabul a few days earlier. These visits, along with that of newly appointed Director General Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Lieutenant General Rizwan Akhtar only two days after assuming office, triggered a visible change in Kabul’s attitude towards Pakistan.
Army chief General Sharif emphasised that a peaceful and stable Afghanistan was in the best interest of Pakistan and that the only way to ensure regional security was to treat terrorism “as our common enemy”, preventing militants in sanctuaries on either side from crossing the porous 1,500 mile long border. Afghan Defence Minister Bismillah Muhammadi went even further with “a proposal for a joint military” that was also floated to “likely become a reality soon”.
Ashraf Ghani commented, “We have overcome obstacles of 13 years in three days. We will not permit the past to destroy the future.”
Both Afghanistan and Pakistan have to be very watchful about incidents and instigation; an all-out effort will be made to create problems. Take for example the remarks wrongfully attributed to Sartaj Aziz on how “militants posing no threat to Pakistan should not be targeted”. Taken out of context it was a blatant misrepresentation meant to embarrass the army chief during his US visit. {So, what is the context, Mr. Analyst ?}
With Hamid Karzai singularly fixated on anti-Pakistan rhetoric, bilateral ties had remained quite frosty. Once Ghani took office, his most important step was cancelling the arms deal his predecessor had concluded with India. Pakistan does not protest India’s friendship with Afghanistan but that cannot be used as a platform against Pakistan. Determined to have honest cooperation and friendship, the new Afghan president seems bent on bringing about a paradigm change for the better. Given the genuine open-heartedness and bonhomie seen and felt during the visit, there has never been an opportunity as favourable as exists today.
The day after the GHQ visit, the Indian media went berserk, reacting adversely to the rather sudden and unexpected rapprochement between the Afghan and Pakistan security establishments. The decades of vitriol that India had instilled within the Afghan military psyche took less than two hours to dissipate. By the time the MI-17 helicopter carrying the Afghan president took off from the GHQ at around five pm, the ‘great game’ had undergone a 180-degree sea change. The visit of COAS General Sharif to the US thus gained added importance. The US can only feel relieved and satisfied that the rapprochement it has been trying to initiate for the last decade to stabilise the region has finally taken place. In the face of the developing IS threat, the Pakistan army’s role is of critical importance {Situations have always either developed mysteriously or were contrived to keep Pakistan as an essential element in the West's well being} to the peace and stability of the region. Which other army in the world has taken on jihadists successfully?
Economically, Pakistan may not need Afghanistan as much as Afghanistan needs Pakistan {Aha, the Jinnah redux. It never leaves a Pakistani. Such arrogance} but without gas and power, our economic resurgence will remain moribund.
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Pakistan Continues JF-17 Upgrades, Possible Interest in FC-31 Emerges
Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, left, sits in the cockpit of the 50th JF-17 Thunder aircraft, co-produced with the support of China National Aero-technology Import and Export Corp
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CRS, may be neither was stupid and both knew each other's game.CRamS wrote: . . . so either he is stupid and thinks US does not his game, or US is stupid and in fact does not know what exactly transpired at the LoC . . ..
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Calling that paragraph "sensible" represents Indian psychology. In paki psychology, all they need to spend on is the means to subdue the Hindus. If Yindoos spend on development that is the same as pakis spending on development, since whatever belongs to Yindoos actually belongs to pakis thanks to jiziya, possession by right hand etc.SSridhar wrote:^A very sensible last paragraph above. But, what to do? From the very early days of Islamist consolidation in the first decade of the previous century, the Muslim elites just wanted to be one-up on the Hindus. This was the rivalry, competition that they set in motion that was sustained, nurtured by the later day AIML and taken to Pakistan where it became full blown.
Jinnah, Iqbal, et al understood this as do all pakis that matter. Pakistan is a parasite nation that is performing as per its design parameters. A developed India is the intended long-term host.
Hat-tip to the poster (Anujan? apologies if I remembered incorrectly) who spelled out with shch clarity and insight the role of national psychological projection in analysing and understanding the enemy. BRF needs a "red team" of designated paki-thinkers to develop more effective understanding.
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The pakis are shameless anyways, but backing a threat to jihadi attacks and nukes doesn't even make sense when Indians are at the receiving end of arbitrary scheming by pakis.SSridhar wrote:The Pakistani justification for using jihadists and first and reckless use of nuclear weapons against India are increasingly being accepted. The below is yet another instance.
The following is from NightWatch for the night of Nov. 18, 2014<SNIP>
This is getting absurd and abnormal. Even 'international' moral keepers at Europe/UN are silent now.
We should make use of asymmetric warfare too, treating pakis as taliban/jihadis of fourfathers and equipping our asymmetric warfare units with equally and even more lethal weapons and backing up any which way. Thappad by BSF was one example, we need to push our forces in to clear out jihadi threats that line up at the border to sneak in and attack Indians - and capture that much land that is used for supporting jihadi rabid dogs.
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I think badmash may be engaging pok "kashmir" leaders as a way to assert echandee.SSridhar wrote:This bravado must be snuffed. There should be no talks at all if that happens. Pakistan is getting emboldened by the day because of improving US support for its roguishness, I reckon.wig wrote:Pakistan to talk to Kashmiri leaders before dialogue with India: Nawaz Sharif
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No one is stupid in the sense you mean above. Both US and pak are pretending.CRamS wrote:SSJi, as I suspected, from your bolded part, Sharif is playing as per the script. Note the "cease-fire violations BS". Sharif knows exactly what TSP tried because he was the one who gave orders, so either he is stupid and thinks US does not his game, or US is stupid and in fact does not know what exactly transpired at the LoC, and hence TSP's game of the upping the ante and then crying wolf has some impact on US.
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SSridhar, Reflecting on the hosannas being showered on Bad Sharif in Dupleecity and the Pagal Sehgal rant on Ghani's visit to GHQ bypassing Badmash, and cancelling Karzai's deal with India for weapons, I am inclined to think the Afghan elections were rigged to appease the Pakis, specifically the Pak Apostate Army which is under lot of stress..
However Pakis being Bakis will back stab Ghani who looks like he deserves it.
If Badmash talks to Kashmir separatists before he meets Modi then there will be no meeting.
PERIOD.
SSridhar is right. Policy has to be consistent.
Separatists are on the wane and this talks/valks will give them oxygen.
However Pakis being Bakis will back stab Ghani who looks like he deserves it.
If Badmash talks to Kashmir separatists before he meets Modi then there will be no meeting.
PERIOD.
SSridhar is right. Policy has to be consistent.
Separatists are on the wane and this talks/valks will give them oxygen.
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It has always been this way. The idea is to scare the "international crowd" into paying Pakistan and opposing India. That hasn't changed and India is not going to change.vishvak wrote: The pakis are shameless anyways, but backing a threat to jihadi attacks and nukes doesn't even make sense when Indians are at the receiving end of arbitrary scheming by pakis.
I have said for a long time, "So they are irrational? Fine. So are we. let them nuke us"
That will be the end of Pakistan. They will say "That will be the end of India. Fine. So long as Pakistan goes" Bhonsdike.
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Rudradev wrote:ramana wrote:
Ghani is an Ahmedzai? Is that a Durrani or a Ghilzai?
He is a Brookingzai and a Worldbankzai who, unlike Hamid Karzai has been quite effectively deracinated from ancestral tribal loyalties. His loyalties are to US Dept of State (late Holbrooke, recently Hillary and now Kerry) whose loyalties are to Pakistan.