Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct 2014

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 20 Nov 2014 21:54

SSridhar wrote:Making of history - Ikram Sahgal, DT
E. Former Pakistani Ambassador to Kabul Rustam Shah Mohmand commented that a foreign head of state heading straight towards a military headquarters on arrival carries a lot more than ceremonial importance: “The Afghan president means business; he knows where the real power rests.” He does indeed! {Wow, the Pakistanis take that as a complement ! }

Rustam Shah is one of the sensible persons there. But mention of IkRam Shy-Gal without stating his illustrious record of being POW in 1971 is insulting and blasphemous.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 20 Nov 2014 23:01

Milestone’ military cooperation pact signed with Russia
http://www.dawn.com/news/1145786/milest ... ith-russia

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan and Russia signed a “milestone” military cooperation pact on Thursday aimed at bringing peace and stability in the region, Islamabad's defence ministry said.The agreement was signed during a meeting by Russian Defence Minister General Sergei Shoigu, who is on a day-long official visit to Pakistan, with his counterpart Khawaja Asif.“The signing of the military cooperation agreement between the two significant countries of the region is a milestone,” Asif said after the signing ceremony in a ministry statement.“Both sides will translate this relationship in tangible terms and further strengthen military to military relations,” Asif added.The pair expressed hope that the agreement will pave the way for exchange of views and information, as well as issues related to strengthening of mutual trust and international security, counter-terrorist and arms control activities.“The first ever visit of the defence minister from Russian Federation has come at a very critical juncture when US led Nato forces are drawing down from Afghanistan by the end of 2014,” the statement said.“Apart from promoting bilateral defence relations, the visit will enable both countries to join hands in bringing peace and stability in the region,” it added.Shoigu, who is accompanied by a 41-member high level delegation, commended the skill and expertise of Pakistani armed forces in fighting the war against terrorism, the Pakistani defence ministry said.“The world community not only praises but wants to do business with Pakistan now,” it quoted Shoigu as saying.Meanwhile, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has said that Pakistan is keen to enhance its multi-dimensional relations with Moscow, including defence.Speaking to Defence Minister of Russian Federation General Sergei Shoigu, who met him here, he said that it was heartening to see that relations between Pakistan and Russian Federation have grown in the past few years.The prime minister stressed upon the need to increase bilateral trade between the two countries which currently stands at $542 million and does not correspond to their trade potential.
He invited Russian companies to invest in Pakistan particularly in the energy sector and benefit from the business friendly policies of his government.The premier lauded Russia's support to become full member of Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) and said that Pakistan was ready to further enhance cooperation with other countries of the region, through this forum to counter the dual challenges of terrorism and drug trafficking – APP

kish · Post by **kish** » 20 Nov 2014 23:27

Seems like ewil Yindoo has martyred a uniformed jihadi of pakisatan

One Soldier Killed in Firing at LoC From Indian Side: Pak

Pakistan today claimed that one of its soldiers was killed in firing from the Indian side on the LoC near Muzaffarabad.

One soldier was killed in firing at the Line of Control (LoC) at Pandu sector near Muzaffarabad this evening, a Pakistan military statement said.

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 20 Nov 2014 23:30

^^ Me confused. I don't know why they are whining. Isn't it time to celebrate as he just won the lottery of 72 houris...

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 20 Nov 2014 23:35

Remember this, when every paki idiot was patting themselves on their collective pakis...

Sharif won't use India-supplied car during SAARC

Well the truth comes out, as usual.
No car was offered by India

partha · Post by **partha** » 20 Nov 2014 23:45

Jhujar wrote:Milestone’ military cooperation pact signed with Russia
http://www.dawn.com/news/1145786/milest ... ith-russia
The premier lauded Russia's support to become full member of Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO)

http://tribune.com.pk/story/794295/paki ... agreement/

The premier sought Russian cooperation in Pakistan getting full fledged membership of Shanghai Cooperation Organization.

The first report is by APP which tries to protect H&D by concealing the fact that Pakistan is basically begging Russia for membership to SCO, an organization which is led by deeper than the oceans friend of Pakistan.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 21 Nov 2014 00:15

Putin is desperate for money and support. If Pakis think they can milk Ruskies the way they do with Americans then they are sadly mistaken. Russia will look for hard cash for every nut and bolt. The KGB oligarchs haven't forgotten the heinous crimes of Pakis during the soviet-afghan war. If Pakis want those russian weapons, they better have wands of dollars handy.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 21 Nov 2014 00:27

The Moscow Times view:
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/ ... 11571.html

PS: It will interesting to see what gun Pakistan will point to its own head to ensnare Moscow.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 21 Nov 2014 01:13

Ambar wrote:Putin is desperate for money and support. If Pakis think they can milk Ruskies the way they do with Americans then they are sadly mistaken. Russia will look for hard cash for every nut and bolt. The KGB oligarchs haven't forgotten the heinous crimes of Pakis during the soviet-afghan war. If Pakis want those russian weapons, they better have wands of dollars handy.

Putin can make loads of money if he somehow figures a way to get his natural gas to India. Modi is hungry for energy and he will buy russian gas with open hands, issue is how to get it. If he can get a Iran India pipeline via sea, that will be huge source of revenue for him.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 21 Nov 2014 01:21

A_Gupta wrote:The Moscow Times view:
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/ ... 11571.html

PS: It will interesting to see what gun Pakistan will point to its own head to ensnare Moscow.

Russia needs to be careful dealing with pakis, these people are infested with diseases and terrorists. Atleast appoint some intermediaries to avoid direct interaction!

James B · Post by **James B** » 21 Nov 2014 02:26

Tweet from a Paki anal-yst

Dr Shahid Masood @Shahidmasooddr

Kabul:Sources close to Afghan Intelligence claims Mulla Umer's Death, while Afghan Taliban are Denying it .No words from Government yet!

Joseph · Post by **Joseph** » 21 Nov 2014 04:22

http://www.khaama.com/taliban-supreme-l ... -died-8778

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 21 Nov 2014 04:49

There was a drone strike earlier today at Datakhel tehsil in NWA. Three got their 72s. Maybe connected ? As many had predicted her after OBL strike, sooner or later Pakis would try and make amends with Americans by selling the mullah and zawahri sooner or later.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 21 Nov 2014 05:23

Abu Khalid, Major (retd) Adil killed in drone strike: AQIS spokesman

ISLAMABAD: Spokesman of al-Qaeda in the Indian Sub-continent (AQIS), Osama Mahmood on Thursday confirmed that his organization’s 2 key leaders Major (retd) Adil Abdul Quddus, Dr Sarbuland alias Abu Khalid and his two sons were killed in a US drone strike in Pak-Afghan border area on November 9.

According to details, Major (retd) Adil was brother in law of Dr Sarbuland alias Abu Khalid. It is relevant to mention here that mastermind of 9/11 attack, Khalid Sheikh Mohammad, had been arrested from the residence of Major (retd) Adil’s brother from Rawalpindi in March 2003.

Major (retd) Adil had also been nabbed after the arrest of Khalid Sheikh Mohammad and later sentenced in Pakistani prison for six years.

Major (retd) Adil was court-martialed and released in 2008 after completing his term in prison.

Cheers

Baikul · Post by **Baikul** » 21 Nov 2014 08:05

Peregrine wrote:Abu Khalid, Major (retd) Adil killed in drone strike: AQIS spokesman

ISLAMABAD: Spokesman of al-Qaeda in the Indian Sub-continent (AQIS), Osama Mahmood on Thursday confirmed that his organization’s 2 key leaders ........ Dr Sarbuland alias ........

With a name like that, I can think of an alias myself...

habal · Post by **habal** » 21 Nov 2014 08:45

Rudradev wrote:
ramana wrote:
Ghani is an Ahmedzai? Is that a Durrani or a Ghilzai?

He is a Brookingzai and a Worldbankzai who, unlike Hamid Karzai has been quite effectively deracinated from ancestral tribal loyalties. His loyalties are to US Dept of State (late Holbrooke, recently Hillary and now Kerry) whose loyalties are to Pakistan.

you mean he is the MMS of Afghanistan ??

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 21 Nov 2014 09:14

^^Yes, pretty much, but with better joints co-ordination, because he hasn't yet mastered the art of puppethood beyond recognition. Within a year or so, we will know which way his talents lie.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 21 Nov 2014 10:36

India may sign Motor Vehicles Agreement at Saarc summit - Dipanjan Roy Choudhry, ET

A crucial agreement that will allow the free movement of commercial vehicles — trucks and buses mainly — across the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (Saarc) is likely to be signed at the summit of the eight-member grouping in Kathmandu next week, possibly paving the way for Indian carriers to drive all the way to Afghanistan through Pakistan for the first time.

On Thursday, the Cabinet approved signing and ratifying the Saarc Motor Vehicles Agreement at the Kathmandu summit, to be held on November 26-27. The motor vehicles agreement among Saarc countries has been in the works for several years.

The motor vehicles agreement could not be finalised earlier because Pakistan did not want to allow access to Indian vehicles due to its apprehensions over the type of goods that would be supplied to the landlocked country from India. Pakistan has reservations about a large Indian presence in Afghanistan and considers this detrimental to its interests and its so-called doctrine of strategic depth. The absence of such a pact has hampered India's trade with Afghanistan.

But Indian officials said the Pakistani authorities have now diluted their opposition as the country itself is eyeing intra-regional trade and the beneficial impact this could have on its economy. {Good luck guys in your unimaginative thinking. Can you please explain how suddenly Pakistan has changed its 'Doctrine of Strategic Depth'?} Pakistan had recently removed some items from its sensitive list for intra-regional trade, pruning it from 1,169 to 936 for all Saarc countries.

India is the sixth-biggest donor to Afghanistan's reconstruction since the fall of the Taliban and has been involved in various infrastructure development and capacity-building projects as part of a $2-billion aid programme. Afghanistan is home to major natural resource deposits including iron ore and natural gas, which India hasn't been able to harness because of logistical and other reasons. The country is also the gateway to Central Asia and beyond, making it a country of major strategic interest to Delhi.

To begin with, the agreement will be operationalised with the launch of three bus services between India and Nepal following the summit, officials said. Services on routes between other countries in the region will be launched in phases, they added. Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif is keen on an India-Afghanistan service via Pakistan at the earliest, but officials said it would take some time to get this route going as he is still facing some internal resistance on this issue.
{This will be another MFN-like issue. Pakistan will never agree to an India-Afghanistan service through Pakistan. Most especially, now when the Afghan-Pakistan-US-China nexus is reaching a denouement. Nawaz Sharif is playing 'good cop' here. One can be sure that there will be editorials, op-eds etc in a few days' time on how Pakistan has already granted transit-trade facility to India and how an intransigent India is unwilling to discuss Kashmir with a large-hearted Pakistan}
While the agreement would pertain to commercial vehicles and public transport in the early phases, its scope will be expanded to include private vehicles at a later date. "The Saarc Motor Vehicles Agreement will allow movement of cargo, passenger and personal vehicles across member states," said an official, who did not want to be identified. "This along with the Saarc Regional Railways Agreement, also likely to be signed at this summit, will go a long way to boost intra-regional trade, (ensure) easy market access and people-to-people contact." The member countries will decide on traffic volume through mutual negotiations, apart from fees and charges to be levied at entry points. Routes for road connectivity are yet to be finalised.

The country through which the vehicles will move will set these charges, which will have to be paid in the local currency. The authorised officers of the country can inspect and search transiting vehicles, according to the draft of the agreement.

arun · Post by **arun** » 21 Nov 2014 10:57

Foolish for India to agree to the above SAARC Motor Vehicle Agreement and I hope better sense prevails and our Government kills this idea.

India has a land border with every non-landlocked SAARC member state with the exception of Afghanistan. No other non-landlocked SAARC member has a land-border with more than one country with the exception of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan which has 2, namely Afghanistan and india. This end of easy vehicular movement can thus be met by bilateral arrangements between India and the required country on the Indian Sub-Continent. That has the advantage of leaving out the Islamic Republic of Pakistan which carries the risk of inviting “exports” like Islamic Terrorism, Narcotics, Forged Indian Currency Notes, illicit arms and explosives. That also has the advantage of leaving out Bangladesh which carries the risk of inviting “exports” of illegal immigrants.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 21 Nov 2014 11:25

Former Afghan President Hamid Karzai has said in a blistering interview with the Prague-based Mashaal Radio that Pakistan not only sheltered jihadist insurgents but also pressed Afghanistan to accept the Durand Line as the permanent border, make peace with the Taliban (on its/their terms) and tried to dictate Afghan foreign policy by telling it to curtail ties with India. Mr Karzai said that accepting any of this would have meant compromising Afghan sovereignty. He blamed the US for a duplicitous policy where it acknowledged that Pakistan harboured terrorists but did nothing to stop it. Mr Karzai also indicated that the US wanted him to accommodate Pakistan’s perverse demands on how the Afghans should handle their relations with India. Just days before Mr Karzai made these remarks, his successor, Mr Ashraf Ghani, made his maiden visit to Pakistan, including to its military’s general headquarters. The visit ended on the optimistic note that both countries were ready to reset their relations favourably.
While the suave Mr Ghani has to exhaust this diplomatic song and dance, just like his rough and tough predecessor, he too will not be able to concede to a single one of Pakistan’s demands. Pakistani media made a big deal of Mr Ghani coming to Pakistan before going to India but Mr Ghani is not the first Afghan leader to do so. In 1958, Afghan King Mohammed Zahir Shah also visited Pakistan before he went to India. During its 1965 and 1971 wars with India, the Afghan government sided with and helped Pakistan. The India-Afghan relationship is a red herring that Pakistan has consistently deployed to dupe the US. Hegemony over Afghanistan is still the Pakistani security establishment’s goal.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/opinion/20 ... or-fireman

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 21 Nov 2014 11:34

Eavesdropping on Pakistani Official Led to Inquiry of Former U.S. Diplomat - NYTimes

WASHINGTON — American investigators intercepted a conversation this year in which a Pakistani official suggested that his government was receiving American secrets from a prominent former State Department diplomat, officials said, setting off an espionage investigation that has stunned diplomatic circles here.

That conversation led to months of secret surveillance on the former diplomat, Robin L. Raphel, and an F.B.I. raid last month at her home, where agents discovered classified information, the officials said.
............
Taking home classified information is a crime, but charges are rare. The Justice Department declined to prosecute Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales in 2008 for keeping information about the National Security Agency’s wiretapping program at his house. John M. Deutch, the C.I.A. director from May 1995 to December 1996, lost his security clearances but was not charged for keeping government secrets on his home computer. Samuel R. Berger, a former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in 2005 to a misdemeanor and paid a $50,000 fine for removing classified documents from the National Archives.

It seems bad Sharif visit to US is paying dividends to Pak. Wondering what US is getting in return from Pak.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 21 Nov 2014 12:23

http://www.dawn.com/news/1145963

Special court okays Musharraf's request calling for abettors' trial

The special court trying former military ruler Pervez Musharraf for treason has accepted a request filed by the retired general calling for the trial of abettors behind the November 3 actions.

The move is likely to implicate a number of high profile civilians and armed personnel in the treason trial.

Means they could summon Ashphuck, Pasha, Nadeem Taj, Crore Kammandus, Shortcut Gigolo and so on...

RSoami · Post by **RSoami** » 21 Nov 2014 12:48

http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/US-d ... tan-382479

National bird sends 6 to their 72

Mahmoud identified the two on Twitter on Thursday as Dr. Sarbaland, also called Abu Khalid, and Major Sheikh Adil Abdul Qadus, a former Pakistani army major who owned the home where top al Qaeda leader Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was arrested.

wig · Post by **wig** » 21 Nov 2014 12:51

ebil raa ajints not allowing bious bakis to ply their normal business

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/nia- ... 21768.html

Pakistan officially printing fake Indian currency notes
Indian security agencies have known it for long. Several arrested underworld and terror operatives have confirmed it repeatedly. Now the National Investigation Agency (NIA) has nailed the Pakistan government's imprint on fake Indian currency notes (FICN) pumped into the country. This proof of counterfeit war can't be denied or erased.

A detailed forensic analysis by the NIA has revealed that the paper used to print the counterfeit rupee notes is an excellent match with the legal tender of Pakistan. The NIA's explosive conclusion was recently revealed to Parliament's Standing Committee on Finance by the country's top intelligence agencies-the Research and Analysis Wing (R&AW), the Intelligence Bureau (IB), and the Department of Revenue Intelligence (DRI).

That FICN is an undesirable import from Pakistan is known, but NIA has belled the cat in its lair. The security features imitated to print fake notes can be duplicated by highly sophisticated machines that only the Pakistan government owns, the committee was told.

Pak imprint

A written compilation of the oral submissions by the intelligence agencies stated: "Forensic opinion has revealed that the notes have been printed on highly sophisticated machines involving huge capital investment. The pulp found to be 100 per cent rag in the FICN which is normally used in making currency papers. The perfection of window and watermark formulation indicates the manufacture of FICN paper on regular currency making machines which can only be owned by a country or state.

"Most of the pivotal parameters of the paper like GSM (paper density measured in grammes per square metre), Wax Pick Quotient, and Poly Vinyl Alcohol and PH Values were found matching with the legal tender of Pakistan."

The papers also reveal that the involvement of any country other than Pakistan in printing FICN has not been found so far.Fake currencyAdTech AdFake banknotes of mostly 5,00 and 1,000 denominations are printed in Pakistan and circulated in India by the ISI through underworld and terror operatives.

Intelligence agencies are worried that despite some traditional routes of FICN smuggling being neutralised, the flow of counterfeit currency has not slowed down.

New routes

The parliamentary panel was informed that the volume of FICN smuggled into India in 2010 was between Rs.1,500 and Rs.1,700 crore which went up to Rs.2,500 crore in 2012 - a rise of 55 per cent. This year, fake currency worth Rs.1,200 crore has already infected the Indian economy till July. The paper also identifies Pakistan-based syndicates involved in pushing counterfeit currency notes into India.Tracking the flow of fake rupeesTracking the flow of fake rupees

Prominent among them are Iqbal Kana, Subha Bhai, Aslam Choudhary, Sheikh Safi and Sikander. These syndicates operate from the UAE, Bangladesh, Nepal, Thailand, Malaysia, Sri Lanka and China.

D-Company role

"Gangsters of D-Company like Aftab Batki and Haji Abdullah have also come to notice for being actively involved in FICN trade," the note reads. The parliamentarians were told that the involvement of Pakistan in the manufacture and supply of FICN has confirmed its use in terror financing activity in India.

It's no secret that Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) pushes in counterfeit currency notes into India to destabilise the country's economy as well as to finance terror operations.Fake currency

The document says that several terrorists owing allegiance to groups such the Lashkar-e-Tayyeba (LeT), al Badr, HuJI and Dawood Ibrahim's D-Company were found carrying fake rupee notes at the time of their arrest. Mumbai terror attack accused David Headley was also believed to have used counterfeit rupees worth about Rs.2 lakh on one of his trips to India. Earlier this year, arrested LeT operative Abdul Karim Tunda had told the Delhi Police that the ISI runs the entire network of FICN being smuggled into India.

Tunda told his interrogators that Iqbal Kana, the biggest dealer of FICN who is still active in Pakistan, got the notes through an ISI Brigadier and then pushed them into India via Bangladesh and Nepal.

Tunda, who was arrested in August, told the interrogators that his work was to collect, disburse and push FICN through his network into India and that each consignment contained counterfeits worth crores of rupees. He also revealed that FICN is supplied not only to Bangladesh and India but also countries such as Holland, Singapore and the UAE.

MAIL TODAY had reported in April that alarmed over a massive seizure of FICN and explosives in Bangladesh, the home ministry had decided to send an NIA team there to gather more information. Authorities in Bangladesh had busted a terror module with the arrest of 16 people, including four Pakistanis, on March 30 and had confiscated counterfeit currency notes worth Rs.1.3 crore. Indian agencies were startled because the amount was much more than what was recovered from either the Bangladesh or the Pakistan border in the last few years.A file photo of Uttar Pradesh police officers with seized fake currency notes.A file photo of Uttar Pradesh police officers with seized fake currency notes.

In their submission to the Parliament committee, the security officials also informed the members about their counter intelligence operations in this area. The members were informed that R&AW had disrupted 16 modules in the past three years and made a large seizure of FICN in the neighbouring country. In fact, R&AW was able to seize FICN worth Rs.62 crore from abroad between 2006 and 2013 with close cooperation from the IB and DRI.

According to government estimates, counterfeit banknotes in circulation in the country constitute about 0.21 per cent of the total currency notes in circulation.

On paper, it might look negligible but such volumes are enough to finance almost all terror and sabotage operations in India.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 21 Nov 2014 13:02

India played productive role inside Afghanistan: US - PTI, ET

The US is most probably playing a double game, praising India on its face but asking Afghanistan to concede to Pakistan's paranoia about India's role in Afghanistan and curtail the same ! Either that or as usual, it is a dichotomy of views between the Pentagon and the State Department. Or, this 'praise' is just a sweet nothing.

Praising India for playing a useful and productive role inside war-torn Afghanistan, the US today said it is looking forward to India's leadership and its continued participation in regional security.

"India is a strong regional power and we know that India has interests in stability and security in the region. They have played a useful, productive role inside Afghanistan already in terms of some training that they have done," Pentagon Press Secretary Rear Admiral John Kirby said.

"I will leave it to India to decide and to speak to what they will contribute to regional security after the end of this year, but we certainly look to India's leadership and their continued participation," Kirby said in response to a question.

I post this in the context of Hamid Karzai's outburst posted earlier.

partha · Post by **partha** » 21 Nov 2014 13:14

SSridhar wrote:India played productive role inside Afghanistan: US - PTI, ET
The US is most probably playing a double game, praising India on its face but asking Afghanistan to concede to Pakistan's paranoia about India's role in Afghanistan and curtail the same ! Either that or as usual, it is a dichotomy of views between the Pentagon and the State Department. Or, this 'praise' is just a sweet nothing.

SSji, did you read a comment by one US official in response to Senile Aziz's statement that Pakistan should not target militants who are not a threat to Pakistan? US official responded by saying "Haqqani network and other organizations" pose a threat to Pakistan and region. Clearly mindful of Pakistani sensitivities - did not mention any anti India organization.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 21 Nov 2014 13:35

partha, thanks. I wasn't aware of that statement.

vijaykarthik · Post by **vijaykarthik** » 21 Nov 2014 15:04

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alastair- ... 48744.html

A great read, IMO. Follow up on another link, that I passed on earlier, by the same person.

And the west wants to arm moderate rebels. Mmh, yeah.

arun · Post by **arun** » 21 Nov 2014 15:25

SSridhar wrote:India played productive role inside Afghanistan: US - PTI, ET

The US is most probably playing a double game, praising India on its face but asking Afghanistan to concede to Pakistan's paranoia about India's role in Afghanistan and curtail the same ! Either that or as usual, it is a dichotomy of views between the Pentagon and the State Department. Or, this 'praise' is just a sweet nothing.

Praising India for playing a useful and productive role inside war-torn Afghanistan, the US today said it is looking forward to India's leadership and its continued participation in regional security.

"India is a strong regional power and we know that India has interests in stability and security in the region. They have played a useful, productive role inside Afghanistan already in terms of some training that they have done," Pentagon Press Secretary Rear Admiral John Kirby said.

"I will leave it to India to decide and to speak to what they will contribute to regional security after the end of this year, but we certainly look to India's leadership and their continued participation," Kirby said in response to a question.
I post this in the context of Hamid Karzai's outburst posted earlier.

The questioner was apparently Raghubir “The Foil” Goyal.

Good to see him in action asking questions with an Indian slant

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Note that the Head of the Uniformed Jihadi's of the Army of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan was denied an audience with the US Secretary of Defencse. :

Department of Defense Press Briefing by Rear Adm. Kirby in the Pentagon Briefing Room
Presenter: Press Secretary Rear Admiral John Kirby
November 20, 2014 …………………….

REAR ADM. KIRBY: …………………… Yeah, Goyal.

Q: Thank you. Two questions please. One, can you give just a little assessment of Pakistan army chief's visit to Washington? Whether the secretary is going to meet with him or not? Or who -- who he met or any assessment, please?

REAR ADM. KIRBY: I think I gave a readout of this meeting the other day. Deputy Secretary Work met, as did Chairman Dempsey, together with General Raheel. I read it out. I'd point you to that readout for specifics -- productive, candid meeting, useful. We were happy to welcome him here at the Pentagon.

Q: But secretary is not meeting -- because he's still staying by waiting for the secretary's return.

REAR ADM. KIRBY: I have nothing -- he's what?

Q: He's waiting for the secretary's return, I believe -- I was told.

REAR ADM. KIRBY: Okay. I have nothing to announce with respect to the secretary's schedule in that regard.

Yes?

Q: On Afghanistan, please, quickly.

What do you think in the new government of Afghanistan or in the new Afghanistan after December, what role do you think India should play or you want India to play?

REAR ADM. KIRBY: Well, we answered this question before. India is a strong regional power and we know that India has interests in stability and security in the region. They have played a useful, productive role inside Afghanistan already in terms of some training that they have done.

I will leave it to India to decide and to speak to what they will contribute to regional security after the end of this year, but we certainly look to India's leadership and their -- and their continued participation.

From here:

US DoD Transcript

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 21 Nov 2014 16:30

Twitter:

Christine Fair ‏@CChristineFair Nov 17

Shame on @peterbergencnn for giving Pak Mil delegation a forum at @NewAmerica to spread their lies without critics like me to challenge them

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 21 Nov 2014 18:57

Eavesdropping on Pakistani Official Led to Inquiry of Former U.S. Diplomat

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 21 Nov 2014 19:38

China commits 29 billion pounds for economic corridor with Pakistan
Have to see if this really materializes.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 21 Nov 2014 19:40

arun wrote:Foolish for India to agree to the above SAARC Motor Vehicle Agreement and I hope better sense prevails and our Government kills this idea.

India has a land border with every non-landlocked SAARC member state with the exception of Afghanistan. No other non-landlocked SAARC member has a land-border with more than one country with the exception of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan which has 2, namely Afghanistan and india. This end of easy vehicular movement can thus be met by bilateral arrangements between India and the required country on the Indian Sub-Continent. That has the advantage of leaving out the Islamic Republic of Pakistan which carries the risk of inviting “exports” like Islamic Terrorism, Narcotics, Forged Indian Currency Notes, illicit arms and explosives. That also has the advantage of leaving out Bangladesh which carries the risk of inviting “exports” of illegal immigrants.

It is therefore also better to block element of blackmail to get into SAARC that pakis are expert in, since Indians will be the most affected by it.

arun · Post by **arun** » 21 Nov 2014 20:25

X Posted from the “ISI - History and Discussions” thread.

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan may be presently enjoying one of the rarer bouts of not being ruled by the Uniformed Jihadi’s of the Military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Nonetheless the Uniformed Jihadi’s of the Military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan have so bamboozeled civil society that the media unhesitatingly kowtows to military dictates on what should and should not be published and if published how it should be presented.

Neha Ansari who worked at the Express Tribune reveals that the Uniformed Jihadi’s of the Military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan via its notorious intelligence arm, the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate aka ISID aka ISI got the Express Tribune to support Imran Khan and Tahir-ul-Qadri against Prime Minister Nawaz Shariff.

Excerpt:

At the Express Media Group, anything related to Khan and Qadri were inexorably the lead stories on the front page or the hourly news bulletin. I witnessed polls showing support for Sharif being censored, while news stories on the misconduct of the protesters, along with any evidence that support among the protestors for Khan and Qadri was dwindling, were axed. While the BBC was publishing stories about how Qadri's protesters were allegedly being paid and Dawn, the leading English-language Pakistani newspaper -- and the Express Tribune's main competitor -- was writing powerful editorials about the military's role in the political crisis, we were making sure nothing negative about them went to print.

Day after day, my national editor told me about how he received frantic telephone calls late in the evening about what the lead story should be for the next day and what angle the article should take. First, we were told to focus on Khan. "Take this as Imran's top quote," "This should be in the headline," "Take a bigger picture of him" were the specific directives given by the CEO. Shortly after, the news group's owner was agitated that the newspaper had not been focusing enough on Qadri. We later found out that the military establishment was supporting the two leaders equally and the media was expected to do the same.

From Foreign Policy at the below link:

Not Fit To Print : An Insider Account Of Pakistani Censorship

habal · Post by **habal** » 21 Nov 2014 21:17

has this been posted here before ?

The ghosts and gains of North Waziristan

Wajahat S Khan

Tuesday, November 18, 2014

MIR ALI: 313 Brigade Headquarters, North Waziristan: This cantonment dates back to 1895; every army, including the British, that came here was not welcome outside the fort, which hasn’t changed much since: single storey buildings with imperial insignia merged with the Islamic slogans of the Pakistani military sit across barren lawns; this is not like a city’s well-kept cantonment, with manicured gardens that the army is proud of; this is a forward area base where the grass is left patchy because sniper and rocket attacks still occur. It’s around 30 degrees, Celsius. There is no humidity.

The base throbs with uniforms of regular infantry battalions; yet, it is the human heart of a ghost town. Outside, Mir Ali has changed. North Waziristan has been taken, but at a cost: The entire city of Mir Ali has been depopulated through what Major General Zafarullah Khan Khattak, the General Officer Commanding of the 7th Infantry Division and the man in charge of Operation Zarb-e-Azb (“Strike of the Prophet’s Sword”), calls “an organised exodus”.

Earlier in the summer, when the operation was launched, weeks of air strikes, ground attacks and penetrating local militant networks with human and signals intelligence were not enough. Nor were the “strangulation operations” that had kicked off before the official campaign was launched on the 30th of June. ‘NWA’ was a different challenge from Swat, assessed the brass. The local population was “entrenched in a decade-long economy of terror” that made them “invested in the anarchy” that was North Waziristan, says General Khattak.

Since then, some 700,000 civilians have been displaced. Around 1,800 terrorists have been killed or captured. Around 200 tons of IEDs and ordnance have been found, “enough for the militants to keep on conducting five IED attacks per day, at a rate of three casualties per attack, for 14 and half years, anywhere in Pakistan or the region”, says the general. As for sheer firepower, the GOC assesses that “there were enough arms and ammunition in the area to raise an entire infantry brigade.”

To date, the army has lost 45 men in the campaign and sustained 155 casualties. Three would be killed on the same night that this correspondent was in North Waziristan, over the last weekend, when Operation Zarb-e-Azb would be completing its 138th day. Naturally, standing on the perimeters of the base, the junior officers are watchful.

“That’s Shahbaz Top. We still take rockets and sniper fire from there,” says Brigadier Azhar Abbasi of the 313 Brigade, sipping tea while wearing his armour, his radio set crackling, looking over the bombed out town, pointing to a peak. “They’re not civilised, the Tangos [army code for Taliban], but they are bloody good shooters. I’ve lost three men from shots that came from over 1,100 yards. All head shots, two of them in the nose. Dragunovs are their weapon of choice...Excellent weapons. But terrible men.”

Driving through Mir Ali: In the armored SUV, the general’s American M4 carbine keeps hitting my knee; we are going over dirt, debris, and rubble, mostly; his Gold Leaf cigarettes sit in a leather holder with a plastic lighter that rattles against the hissing communication equipment; there are no markings on his vehicle, no fancy stars to adorn his rank, in case there are snipers still around to target him. Unlike most men his rank, General Khattak’s baton-holder, stuck on the dash, is empty. Instead, he’s carrying a Turkish 9mm Sarsilmaz semi-automatic in a shoulder holster with two extra magazines. Ceremony takes a back seat in Mir Ali.

In the 10-minute drive through the bazaar, there’s not much but rows upon rows of houses and shops flattened by air strikes and artillery; signs of close quarter combat remain; bullet holes and craters on both sides of the two lane main street of the town are the last indications of activity; handmade shop signs, some burnt out, are reminders of the trade that once thrived here - hardware stores, butcher shops, tailors - but the general says that this was only part of the commercial proceedings.

“There was an ‘IED Bazaar’ where you could buy anything from a suicide-bomb jacket with 50 kilos of explosives to a VBIED [vehicle-borne improvised explosive device, or car bomb],” says Khattak. “You could, from a good dealer, even pick the type of colour you wanted for the vehicle that was to be your 2,000 pound car bomb”.

There is a gas station on the main road that has the Shell corporate logo rocketed through; a UAE driver’s licence belonging to a man - Subeskar Gul - is on the ground among empty cans of energy drinks and shattered glass. Maybe he was getting gas when the fighting started? Maybe he was fighting?

The security officer, Lt. Colonel Jawad Bajwa of the 54 Baloch Regiment, sorts it out: “They gave us quite a fire-fight here,” he says. “They took over the cashier’s office and pounded rockets at us from there. It took most of the night to take care of them. They’re tough, the Ubzeks. And they ran this city, with a lot of local support.”

“The Uzbeks had an interesting strategy of inculcating fear,” continues the colonel. “They lived and hunted in pairs. Two of them would ride into town on motorbikes and clear out a corner by not saying anything, just glaring. They didn’t show their faces. They didn’t hold funerals for their dead. They didn’t even put flowers or markings during the burial. Their graves remained unknown and hidden. As if they just would vanish into immortality.”

The Torture Cell: Like any other Pashtun house in the Af-Pak border regions, this one has a dried mud and thatched roof structure, where the gate is the strongest part of the building, as Pashtuns are a fiercely private people; an open courtyard leads to a 20 by 10 feet room, with a 15 foot ceiling, but once inside, there are few signs of local culture: a flag of Iraq hangs; jihadist literature, in Russian, Turkish, Uzbek, Turkmen and Arabic, captured by the army, is lined up neatly in one corner, including a booklet with what resemble ISIS [Islamic State in Iraq and Syria] markings; there is a notebook with a handmade doodle of terror: an ISIS flag adorned by a chilling announcement in a Farsi variant: “Blood Avenges Blood” and “Death for America”, complete with an AK-47, a scimitar and a helicopter, all dripping blood.

A made-in-USA military jacket hangs on the wall, next to empty pistol holsters; out of place are a stash of Bollywood audio cassette tapes, thrown together with tapes of Quranic recitations; the jihadist house also has a bunch of recovered photographs, of fighters posing with their weapons, Photoshopped upon images of lush gardens and pastures, to represent heaven, or perhaps home; but there are signs of disturbance, too: some burnt CDs; which are claimed as destroyed evidence; a laminated list of instructions from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan on rejecting use of media, including personal computers, cell phones, and MP4 players, due to them increasing “moral mischief”. This place has ‘militant hang-out’ written all over it, along with a warning spray-painted on the wall: “The Tahreek [Movement] of Taliban is Alive”, a reminder to those who would eventually see this room, sans the terrorists.

But in another corner is a set of chains, hanging from the ceiling; its purpose was to tie up prisoners, explains an intelligence officer; there is a collection of whips and knives and some surgical tools which are claimed as torturing equipment.

“Almost every household here was infected by the economy of terror,” says Brigadier Azhar Abbasi. “Regular folk here maintained a basement with a torture chamber or a private jail in their house, because they would hold hostages for kidnapper networks in the mainland...A hostage from Karachi or Lahore [Pakistan’s main cities] would end up in the basement of a shopkeeper here, tucked away from the grip of the law, waiting for his ransom...almost every family depended on abduction, crime, narcotics, gun-running, smuggling or terror economy, directly or indirectly.”

“The ultimate solution will be legal and economic”, adds Abbasi. “But first we need to disinfect and disconnect this place from the profitable mechanisms of terror.”

There is a cache of weapons, too: srms, old and new, sophisticated and small, mostly Russian but even Indian, with homemade IED-manufacturing equipment, have been recovered from all over this compound.

“There is a big gun culture in this region. Every Pashtun man is allowed a weapon in his own domain, even minus a licence” explains General Khattak, himself a Pashtun. “It’s a proud tradition to carry a weapon. But to bury fully greased SMGs [sub-machine guns] in your backyard? That’s not tradition. That’s terrorism.”

Both sides of the torture cell have houses that have been bombed out in an air strike; the remaining effects of a family - a suitcase filled with personal belongings - a woman’s shoes, a child’s toy plane, a lipstick, a vanity, even a science book and a blanket - lies in the rubble.

“The north and south of this hideout were protected by residential compounds of Uzbeks to escape detection,” explains General Khattak. “They would camouflage and protect the horror that was happening here.”

“Do not be mistaken, there was some, but very negligible, collateral damage,” explains Brigadier Abbasi. “But everybody, good and bad, took advantage of the exit routes we allowed. Our intercepts tell us that many Tangos are now in the TDP [temporarily displaced persons] camps in Bannu. Our intel shows us mounds of hair they cut and shaved to fit in with the locals during the movement. There were loopholes, and they took advantage of them...And the locals let them.”

The IED Factory: The ‘front’ of the IED factory is ironic; it’s a medical clinic lying on Mir Ali Bazaar’s main street; a marble plaque claims it was inaugurated by the local political agent in 1956, when this volatile tribal area was relatively peaceful; the outside room facing the street has posters warning against malaria, with a box of mints, once meant for visitors, scattered all over the floor, along with furniture and documents; the place looks like it has been through layers of hurried searches.

A walk through the inner courtyard that is shaded by eucalyptus trees shows signs of a severe gunfight; the main clinic’s walls are pockmarked by bullets and grenade splinters; inside are maps of Pakistan’s provinces, heavy ordnance, a globe of the world, a refrigerator, IED-manufacturing material and guides, lab equipment, a white-board with an IED-making formula in a Cyrillic variant written with a dry-erase marker, wigs for disguise and, of course, suicide-bomb jackets.

“We took this place down,” says Lt. Colonel Jawad Bajwa of the 54 Baloch as he points to the wall that his troops blew up before storming the compound. The 54 Baloch Regiment has an interesting motto: ‘First to Guard’, given after it became the initial battalion to be the guard of honour at the Quaid’s Mausoleum. But Bajwa’s unit was also the vanguard in the 12-day offensive that saw Mir Ali fall during Zarb-e-Azb in July.

“It took us an afternoon. Here, life’s about aggression versus more aggression, tactics versus superior tactics. In a street to street fight, strategy was beyond us.”

Perhaps it was due to that aggression why Operation Zarb-e-Azb, which was “meant to take key parts of North Waziristan in 90 days, was essentially over by the 52nd day”, says General Khattak.

America, America: Everyone has been talking about a recent Pentagon report that said the Pakistani military hasn’t done enough to take on the militants. The bad press is hovering like a shadow over the officers, in spite of recent gains made by troops using American-made MRAPS - heavy IED-resistant vehicles that the army badly needs - 20 of which have been provided by the US.

“If this is not enough, what is?” asks General Khattak on the drive to the airstrip. We drive past Jalal Post, named after a major who held off over a 100 Uzbeks with a platoon of soldiers for almost an entire day, eventually losing his life to an Uzbek sniper in the Battle of Mir Ali, also called Operation Badal 1.

“Our officers-to-men killed ratio is 1:12”, raps the general. “That’s high, maybe the highest for any active in-combat army this century, and we’re very proud of it. And with this (he points to the rubble that is Mir Ali all around) I’ve managed to achieve the first tenet of COIN [counterinsurgency] operations: displacing the terrorists. They have no sanctuary. Because 90 percent of North Waziristan is now past tense for them, and under our control.”

There are still gaps, however. Various theories circulate about where the leaders of the Haqqani Network vanished. Some place them in Parachinar and its environs in the northern agency of Kurram. Some send them down to the Pashtun belt of Balochistan, or beyond the border. Some even place them in Rawalpindi and Karachi. Most officers admit that the Haqqani question is ‘above their pay grade’. But Major General Khattak is very clear.

“If push comes to shove, I would even suggest that the Americans put together a team of forensic experts and come over here to see what we’ve done, to the infrastructure of terror and even the Haqqanis,” he says, lighting up a smoke. “Let us stop writing reports from Washington and do some real fact-finding, shall we?”

On the domestic front, Hafiz Gul Bahadur, the local Wazir warlord who, a senior officer admits, “is our own creation, nothing but a thug who became a monster, thanks to us” and his sub-commander, Sadiq Noor, are on the run. Zarb-e-Azb has thus morphed into a ‘hunt-mode’, where entire battalions have been tasked to search and destroy ‘GB’ and his cohorts; Sadiq Noor keeps on crossing over from across the border, but GB is dug in hard somewhere around southwestern North Waziristan.

The Americans, too, are utilising the vacuum and flux. Drones are still targeting the areas where the Pakistan Army has not yet managed to reach. Most of these are along the Dattakhel axis, running like a hammerhead along the border, along the southwestern and northwestern corner of the agency, which is high terrain and adjacent to the volatile Afghan “P2K” region (Paktia, Paktika and Kunar) and, of course, the treacherous Shawal Valley in the south, where many of the insurgents have escaped, but in small groups, to avoid easy detection.

Even though he won’t commit on where his forces lie on the matrix of completing the mission, General Khattak has a swagger of confidence: “We’ve reduced their ability to strike. Their tactics have deteriorated and become less complex. We listen to them all the time, on the intercepts. We can hear their pain. And we are enjoying it.”

7th Division Headquarters - Miranshah, North Waziristan:

A year ago, what is now the army’s largest division - almost equivalent to three regular divisions, or around 45,000 men - was but a shade of what it is now. The 7th Infantry Division - the Pakistan Army’s oldest, its ‘Golden Arrow’ - was holed inside the Miranshah Fort for years, since 2003. Outside, peace agreements and under-the-table deals with North Waziristan’s powerful warlords allowed it to move around just once a week, and forced it to tolerate IED, suicide and rocket attacks around the year.

But with Operation Zarb-e-Azb, the army is finally beginning to act like a counter-insurgent military machine.

The proof is displayed in the massive front lawn of the division’s headquarters. A symmetrical display of seized weapons, communication equipment, ordnance, IEDs, intelligence, and even American and other NATO military uniforms is crowned by two vehicles: One is an American-made military Humvee, a khaki Hummer with bullet holes from across the border, complete with Afghan National Army markings and communication equipment, which was used as a “VIP car by the Haqqani Network”, claims General Khattak. The other is a functional, foliage-green pick-up truck with Afghan National Police markings.

Sophisticated flow-charts and bar-graphs shared by the 7th Division show that Zarb-e-Azb has shown remarkable gains: A decreasing trend in the number of terrorist attacks and military/civilian casualties, nationwide, with less than 50 terror-related incidents since the campaign was launched, causing less than 600 casualties and around 150 fatalities, including the attack on the Wagah border earlier this month.

But details about Operation Khyber 1, which is the new and unannounced kinetic build-up in parts of the Khyber tribal agency, are more oblique.

“Khyber 1 is not an afterthought,” defends Khattak, putting his armoured SUV into gear as we begin to head to Miranshah. “Yes, there were unexpected consequences of the flux and reorganisation of militants after Zarb [-e-Azb].”

“This included splintering. Omar Khalid Khorasani [the commander of the Mohmand chapter of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan] was always ambitious, bickering with Fazlullah [the emir of the TTP] over leadership and control...he went his own way when he reinvigorated Ahrar-ul-Hind [a new militant group that is operating out of Khyber]. This was to carve his own identity, his own brand. Before he gets there, Khyber 1 has been designed to get to him. Simple.”

The Media Centre: Outside, in Miranshah town, the Taliban’s media effort is on full display. Once a small school house, the Taliban made this their ‘Media Center’; a three-room communication enterprise: one room filled with digital recording devices, cameras and computers, where DVDs of training and propaganda videos were processed; the other an archives and audio room with sound mixers and mics; the third, the grandest room, is what a young officer refers to as the ‘Suicide Studio’, where soon-to-be suicide-bombers would record their famous last words; this last room has a lush carpet and velvet cushions, with Taliban’s stark black and white flag in the background; there are even light-stands to complete the terrible last taping of terrorists.

“Don’t be overwhelmed by the religious symbolism,” warns Brigadier Azhar Abbasi. “Beards were a fashion here, too. We’ve found booze, we’ve found hash, we’ve found all sorts of lewd movies on CDs. These guys did not have a one-track mind about jihad.”

Terror, Underground: The ride through Miranshah Bazaar is longer than the one through Mir Ali. The destruction is worse, too. The signature of ordnance from all sorts of platforms and weapons - fighter-bombers, helicopter gunships, field artillery, IEDs, RPGs and small arms - can be detected; there is a pup walking alone; and a thin cat, sipping water from a puddle; but yards upon yards of shops and houses have been bombed out; there are no signs of life.

“Drone-proof, fool-proof and weather-proof” is how General Khattak describes the Taliban’s ‘Underground Headquarters’ as we pull up to a stop: Built as a subterranean labyrinth in the basement of the main mosque in the heart of Miranshah Bazaar, with over 40 rooms connected by zigzagging tunnels, “Tango HQ”, as an intel officer put it, was a secretariat, a command and control centre, a communication hub, a recording studio, a guest house, and even included solitary chambers for conditioning suicide-bombers (tiny, secluded rooms with pictures of heaven depicted on digitally-printed plastic backdrops).

Upstairs, the regular business of prayer was conducted, with worshippers of all ages coming and going from all over Miranshah; downstairs, senior Taliban commanders would enjoy television, internet, air-conditioners, the equivalent of a canteen, and underground access to various sections of the city.

Now, the army has ‘sanitized’ the area; all the rooms have been stripped empty; lavish Afghan rugs and blankets have been torn apart for intelligence; some remnants, like cell phone batteries and a ‘dandasa’, the herbal stick that locals use to brush their teeth in tradition of the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) in lieu of toothpaste, are still lying around; a walking cane with electric tape wrapped around it is unattended on the ground; an empty Pepsi bottle and some plastic glasses that would have gone with some Talibans’ last meal are scattered; to underscore the change of guard, the Army Engineers have spray painted a big ‘OK’ outside every door and enclave, indicating that there are no booby traps or IEDs in the labyrinth’s several rooms. It’s cooler here, than upstairs, in the city.

The Man-Eating Bazaar: The kitchen of the underground ‘Tango HQ’, like any kitchen in the world, has cabinets and shelves; but a row of these swings open to reveal a tunnel, through which come both a cool draft and a terrible smell; there is some light, at the end.

“That’s the executive access route to the Adam Khor [Man Eating] Bazaar”, says an intelligence officer. “It’s where the unwanted and the unwelcome were beheaded, and left to rot, decapitated for days...Their bodies were not allowed to be buried, and they used to stink up the bazaar, as a lesson for all and sundry.”

“The smell still hasn’t gone away, even though we cleared the bodies weeks ago.”

Saying farewell on the airstrip, as his overused combat-aviation AH-1 Cobras are being inspected after a post-operation sortie, Major General Khattak keeps up the official narrative: the fight will be long; it will have to be a national effort; it will require all facets of civilian and military thinking to come up with creative solutions.

But then, the Pashtun and the soldier reflect. “Whether it is rethink of the FCR [the Frontier Crimes Regulation that rules the Federally Administered Tribal Areas], or economic solutions, or good governance, we must understand what rules these people. The local code of Cholwashti [locals protecting their own land honourably] has to be brought back. What’s always worked must work again. And for those who don’t follow the local custom...We must kill them. We must fight them to the death.”

sudhan · Post by **sudhan** » 21 Nov 2014 21:56

Wajahat Khan is that haughty baldy.. Got his ass handed to him by Javed Akhtar and Gen Bikram Singh is their respective discussions.. Another pawki who thinks he can look down upon India and Indians.. A Paki Army hack, b@lls to bones..

habal · Post by **habal** » 21 Nov 2014 22:03

sudhan wrote:Wajahat Khan is that haughty baldy.. Got his ass handed to him by Javed Akhtar and Gen Bikram Singh is their respective discussions.. Another pawki who thinks he can look down upon India and Indians.. A Paki Army hack, b@lls to bones..

yes, he is the same. But some factoids have escaped through that article.

he is playing slightly different tune these days, check this, interviewer prods him on nuclear bum, he says 'time waste na karo'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9PGTlcvtyM

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 22 Nov 2014 00:04

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2014/20141121/main5.htm

Will consult Kashmiri separatists before talks with India: Sharif
Afzal Khan in Islamabad

Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has blamed India for adopting inflexible approach towards the Kashmir issue. Ignoring India's opposition, Sharif today said Pakistan would hold dialogue with Kashmiri separatists to take them into confidence before engaging in peace talks with India.

Speaking at a meeting of Kashmir Council in Muzaffarabad, the capital of Pakistan-occupied Kashmir on Thursday, Sharif said he would consult Hurriyat leaders prior to entering negotiations with India.

"It is our fundamental belief that the Kashmir issue should be resolved through dialogue. My government started dialogue with India but it cancelled the scheduled talks between the foreign secretaries," he said.

New Delhi called off foreign secretary-level talks with Pakistan scheduled to be held on August 25 after Pakistan High Commissioner Abdul Basit met Kashmiri separatists.

Sharif's comments came ahead of the SAARC summit next week in Nepal which will be attended by him and Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

In September, Sharif raised the Kashmir issue at the UN General Assembly session invoking indirect response from his Indian counterpart Narendra Modi. The Indian External Affairs Minister gave a more pointed reply reiterating Indian position that "Kashmir is an integral part of India". Calling for a peaceful resolution of the dispute in the Muzaffarabad meeting, Sharif said all issues should be resolved through negotiations and without the use of force.

"Many civilians and security personnel were injured during the recent ceasefire violations along the Line of Control. We don't want to use power," said Sharif.

He also expressed concern over the silence of the UN and international community on the issue and urged them to take initiative for the resolution of the dispute according to UN Security Council's resolutions and the aspiration of Kashmiri people. "Pakistan has always kept Kashmir issue at the forefront in all world peace forums," Sharif said.

Shunning India's accusations related to Pakistan harbouring militants, Sharif said: "Pakistan is not providing sanctuaries to anti-India elements. India has propaganda against us that we are harbouring terrorists in order to cover up their wrongdoings in Kashmir," he said. Pakistan itself is a victim of terrorism and is doing everything to eliminate it, he said. (With agency inputs)

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 22 Nov 2014 00:13

Fikar not. Ombaba has reached out to the Lahore Loin

‏@MaryamNSharif
President Obama calls PM Sharif. Took PM NS into confidence on his upcoming visit to India. Expressed desire for stronger, friendlier ties.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 22 Nov 2014 00:36

Pilot killed after PAF aircraft crashes near Karachi

KARACHI: A Pakistan Air Force (PAF) pilot was killed after his Mirage aircraft crashed on the outskirts of Karachi on Friday evening during a routine night training mission.

The PAF, while identifying the pilot as Squadron Leader Tanvir Ahmed, added that an inquiry has been ordered by the Air Headquarters to determine the cause of the crash.

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