Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct 2014

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Jhujar wrote:
Paul wrote:My original question! Why did MMS never visit Pakistan?
MMS's visit to "Pakistan" is his private affair like rest of the Indians do.
But what gives now for Ganja.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/national/2 ... evelopment
Nawaz admires Hindu’s role in development
PM sends bouquets, greeting cards and cakes to Hindu lawmakers
ncluding members of the National Assembly and provincial assemblies as well as senators on the auspicious occasion of Diwali.Flower bouquets, greeting cards and cakes have been sent to them on behalf of the prime minister. In his message to the Hindu community, Prime Minister Nawaz said that Diwali signifies salvation of the righteous and vindication of their stance for which they had the courage to render sacrifices.He admired the productive role Hindu community was playing in national development and said that the Hindu community was an asset to Pakistan in whatever field of endeavor its members were engaged in.

Bunkum !! The pukes are trying hard to appear normal. Lets continue to keep our powder dry.

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Paul wrote:My original question! Why did MMS never visit Pakistan?
You mean he suffered from eternal constipation :mrgreen:
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Paul wrote:My original question! Why did MMS never visit Pakistan?
Perhaps because many Indians would have requested him to stay there and not return.
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KJo wrote: I've been following Pak closely for 15 years, but I still don't understand why we care about MFN status from Pak. Can someone tell me? Is it to do with allowing us to sell products there? Can't we do without it - why does Pak think they hold the carrot to dangle in front of us?
First to get one thing straight, MFN is something Pakistan has to do as a member of the World Trade Organization (WTO) and not as a favor to India.
http://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/wha ... act2_e.htm
Most-favoured-nation (MFN): treating other people equally

Under the WTO agreements, countries cannot normally discriminate between their trading partners. Grant someone a special favour (such as a lower customs duty rate for one of their products) and you have to do the same for all other WTO members.

This principle is known as most-favoured-nation (MFN) treatment (see box). It is so important that it is the first article of the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT), which governs trade in goods. MFN is also a priority in the General Agreement on Trade in Services (GATS) (Article 2) and the Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights (TRIPS) (Article 4), although in each agreement the principle is handled slightly differently. Together, those three agreements cover all three main areas of trade handled by the WTO.

Some exceptions are allowed. For example, countries can set up a free trade agreement that applies only to goods traded within the group — discriminating against goods from outside. Or they can give developing countries special access to their markets. Or a country can raise barriers against products that are considered to be traded unfairly from specific countries. And in services, countries are allowed, in limited circumstances, to discriminate. But the agreements only permit these exceptions under strict conditions. In general, MFN means that every time a country lowers a trade barrier or opens up a market, it has to do so for the same goods or services from all its trading partners — whether rich or poor, weak or strong.
So what is in it for India if Pakistan meets its WTO obligation?

To me it is a sign of seriousness. It is an encouraging sign regarding Pakistan's sincerity for peace if it doesn't let its hostility to India override its international obligations.

There is a second benefit as well. Nations trade because it is mutually beneficial. There is a model (GTAP) that models the supposed benefits of trade: https://www.gtap.agecon.purdue.edu/models/

According to such a model, the benefits to India and Pakistan of "MFN with trade facilitation" is many times more than the annual volume of trade, which will be many tens of billions of dollars. (The benefit for India is a few trillion dollars). Since I don't understand the model and the numbers it produces, I won't say more, but just point you to the publication:
http://elibrary.worldbank.org/doi/book/ ... -9450-6483

In general, per that paper, free trade in the SAFTA region has a huge benefit.

PS: if someone can decipher the key ingredients in the GTAP model and can validate the benefits of Indo-Pak trade per that model, my appreciation in advance!
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I think MFN was a master stroke by PVNR. If used properly we can gain a lot from it. It is a tool in our diplomatic kit which should be made use of.
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India asks Pakistan to keep UN out of Kashmir
India has called upon Pakistan not to involve the United Nations in the Kashmir dispute and resolve any conflict through bilateral dialogue, the BBC Urdu reported on Friday.
Singh was of the opinion that Pakistan should not try to involve any third-party with intent to mediate the crisis. “Pakistan has accepted a resolution in National Assembly asking for UN’s intervention… but if there is a problem it should be resolved through bilateral talks,” he maintained.
Meanwhile, India announced setting up of 54 new border outposts and a INR1.75 billion package for beefing up the infrastructure along the border in Arunachal Pradesh, despite concerns raised by China.
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Thar project: Chinese lenders refuse to accept sovereign guarantees
THAR: The coal mining and power generation project of Sindh Engro Coal Mining Company (SECMC) in Thar could get delayed as it faces an uncertain future following reluctance of Chinese banks to provide loans and accept sovereign guarantees of the Pakistan government.
"With Time Tested, Highel than the Himalayas etc. etc. & etc. Fliiends like the Chinese who needs enemies"
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Paul wrote:My original question! Why did MMS never visit Pakistan?
Indeed why not?
Specially after this PIDE invite?
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Atri wrote:
First of its kind, a very good and relevant debate between Afghanistan, Pakistan and India, on 'Terrorism as a Foreign Policy Tool'.
Atri'ji - Any debate which has Loony Shankar Aiyar is neither good nor relevant. If you do not believe me, ask Ms. Kiran Mazumdar Shaw. She has mouthful to say about Loony Shankar Aiyar.
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Paul wrote:My original question! Why did MMS never visit Pakistan?
What? :shock:

I thought MMS was locked up in Pakistan by Sonia all the time!
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Time to turn the heat on Pakistan - G.Parthasarathy, Business Line
Just over a year ago, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif was swept back to power, prompting expectations that he would tackle Pakistan’s security and economic crises, and improve relations with India. But, one year is an eternity in the politics of Pakistan! The US is refusing to pledge additional aid beyond what was promised earlier under the Kerry-Lugar Legislation. Even all-weather friend China has expressed disappointment that Sharif’s government has not done the requisite preparatory work for utilising the aid that Beijing had promised for the development of Pakistan’s ailing power sector. The only silver lining has been increased remittances from Pakistan’s workers in the Gulf, despite calls by Imran Khan for workers to halt such inward remittances.

Instead of acting circumspectly in such a situation, Pakistan has chosen to escalate tensions on its borders with Iran, Afghanistan and India. The tensions have arisen because of support to cross-border terrorism resulting from state agencies backing extremist Sunni groups, ranging from the Lashkar-e-taiba to the Afghan Taliban and the Jaish-e-Adl.

On the Iran front


Tensions with Iran escalated last year, when the Jaish-e-Adl mounted cross-border ground and missile attacks in Iran, resulting in Iranian casualties. This prompted an Iranian spokesman to warn that Iranian forces would enter Pakistani territory if the latter “failed to act against terrorist groups operating on its soil”.

More or less coinciding with this, the Jaish-e-Adl kidnapped five Iranian border guards and moved them into Pakistan. Iran not only warned Pakistan of cross-border retaliation, but also brought to the notice of the UN Security Council, in writing, the repeated incursions from Pakistani soil. Ever since the pro-Saudi Nawaz Sharif, whose links with radical Sunni extremist groups is well documented, assumed power, Pakistan has moved towards rendering unstinted support to Saudi Arabia, even in the Syrian civil war. It has also unilaterally annulled the Pakistan-Iran oil pipeline project, prompting Iran to seek compensation.

The Afghan story

While Sharif was commencing negotiations for a peace deal with the Tehriq-e-Taliban in the tribal areas of North Waziristan bordering Afghanistan, army chief General Raheel Sharif launched a massive military operation, involving over 50,000 military and paramilitary personnel, backed by artillery, tanks, helicopter gunships and fighter jets. An estimated one million Pashtun tribesmen have fled from their homes. They are now homeless and facing barriers preventing their entry to the neighbouring provinces of Punjab and Sind. Not surprisingly, ISI ‘assets’ like the Mullah Omar-led Afghan Taliban and the Haqqani Network have been quietly moved out from the battle zone, quite obviously into ISI safe houses.

Unrest is brewing amidst the displaced Pashtun tribals, as the army is unable to coordinate its operations with civilian relief agencies. One can expect that the displaced and homeless Pashtun tribals will, in due course, resort to terrorist violence across Pakistan.

The special treatment meted out to ISI assets like Mullah Omar and the Haqqani Network would have been carefully noted by the new Ashraf Ghani dispensation in Afghanistan, as a prelude to more serious attacks by the Afghan Taliban acting out of ISI and army protected safe havens in Pakistan. Pakistan’s western borders are not going to be areas of peace and stability in coming years. Unfortunately for both Nawaz Sharif and Raheel Sharif, the escalating tensions with Iran, the partisan stance on Saudi Arabia-Iran rivalries and the military action in North Waziristan have invited criticism within Pakistan.

The India bogey


The promotion and escalation of tensions with India across the Line of Control and the international border have to be seen in this context. What better way for the army to divert attention from its misadventures in the west, than to revive the ‘India bogey’ in Pakistan? Such an action would also test the resolve of the Narendra Modi dispensation in India to deal with cross-border terrorism.

Moreover, with Assembly elections due in J&K in December, the Pakistan army would strive to ensure that the credibility of these elections is questioned by ensuring a low turnout. Hurriyat leaders such as Shabir Shah and Yasin Malik had already been commissioned to stir up discontent and discredit the Indian army, during the floods. Three successive and successful Assembly elections in the State would erode the credibility of Pakistan’s propaganda.

What Pakistan had not bargained for, as it attempted to test India’s resolve from August onwards, was the robust response it received not only from the Indian army, but also from the paramilitary Border Security Force. This was accompanied by an ill-advised diplomatic effort to seek UN intervention in J&K. Both Sharif and his otherwise realistic national security advisor, Sartaj Aziz, seem to forget that the world changed dramatically after 9/11.

The western world led by the US has come to realise that Pakistan-backed terrorist groups are as much a threat to their security as to that of India.

Pakistan also seemed to ignore Modi’s unambiguous stance that dialogue and terrorism cannot go hand in hand, signalling that there would be no repetition of the diplomatic ineptness that India manifested in Sharm-el-Sheikh. Pakistan also seems to have misread the significance of the Obama-Modi Joint Declaration averring action for “dismantling of safe havens for terrorist and criminal networks, to disrupt all financial and tactical support for terrorist and criminal networks such as Al Qaeda, Lashkar-e-Taiba, Jaish-e-Mohammed, the D-Company, and the Haqqanis”.

Pakistan’s military adventurism on three fronts across its borders with India, Afghanistan and Iran has created just the right environment to turn the heat on Islamabad and Rawalpindi.

Apart from mounting a media offensive across print, electronic and social networks, it is time for India to get world attention focused on Pakistan-sponsored terrorism and the plight of Baluchis, Shias and other minorities in that country.

In any case, there should be no question of a sustained dialogue process till Pakistan fulfils its January 2004 assurance that territory under its control will not be used for terrorism against India.


The writer is a former high commissioner to Pakistan
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Paul wrote:My original question! Why did MMS never visit Pakistan?
MMS was needed in India to promote Pakistan's cause
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The Thar mess.
http://www.brecorder.com/articles-a-let ... 2014-10-01

I think the obligatory comparison with India at the end of the article is merely there for form.
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If MMS is all they wanted to host, they could have sent Moon Moon Sen. Many filmi types used to do that for shows/interactions.
Oh, btw they can still host original MMS. He should be available for a trip to his birth-pind Gah. Who knows. ha may already have made a trip without anybody noticing.
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A_Gupta wrote:The Thar mess.
http://www.brecorder.com/articles-a-let ... 2014-10-01

I think the obligatory comparison with India at the end of the article is merely there for form.
Of course, it is just like the last paragraph of Press Release
"SFTUPA is cornflakes to coups organization that has a made the Pakahastan proud with its missions from East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) to Black September. It is has expansive tracts of land under its management and is continuously optimizing to better the standards that it sets for itself ...."
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Pakistan's bewildering array of militants

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-29724771
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India offers to help Pakistan eradicate polio infection - The Hindu

As usual, Pakistan is putting a gun to its own head and a terrified India scampers to save it.
Union Health Minister Harsh Vardhan has offered help in polio eradication to the government of Pakistan.

Dr. Vardhan pointed out that though India was polio-free now, there was always the danger of the virus resurfacing as Pakistan accounts for 85 per cent of the world’s polio cases.

He said it was imperative that the two countries cooperate because of this threat.


“In the past too we have offered Pakistan our cooperation. Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has issued some reasonable statements about rooting it out and we want to assure him of our support,” he said. Mr. Sharif had announced a ‘National Emergency Action Plan-2014.’

“I have been through the plan and find that the script is perfect. Pakistan has resolved to set up monitoring cells at the grassroots. They are also talking of involving social groups, a strategy which worked wonderfully in India,” the Minister said.

Dr. Vardhan said Pakistan could draw on the Indian experience and learn from the challenges that were overcome to transform India from a country with 60 per cent of the world’s polio cases to a certified polio-free nation.

“This particular model would stand Pakistan in good stead. Unless all stakeholders, most importantly its religious clergy, are involved, it would be impossible to achieve total polio eradication.”


Referring to the threat of the virus entering India from Pakistan and Afghanistan, he said measures had been put in place at border crossings. These include vaccination for those travelling both ways to Pakistan and emergency response plans.

The Ministry will introduce the injectable vaccine in the Immunisation Programme next year — in line with the Global Polio Eradication Initiative’s action plan.
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India offers to help eradicate polio. :eek:
This is highly Chanakian. This ensures that Polio will never get eradicated from Pakistan. Pukis will now never give any vaccination to heir nanha mujahids. Vaccination will only help India. :P
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Bakistan has successfully internationalised Polio issue. Now it is the responsibility of the World to bring India to the table and solve it.
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Just as Pakistan has successfully internationalised the kashmir issue and the balouch issue.

BT I just discovered that india is deeply involved in balocuhistan. The bannias run a chain of restaurants called pind balouchi. :P :mrgreen: :rotfl:
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saravana wrote:Bakistan has successfully internationalised Polio issue. Now it is the responsibility of the World to bring India to the table and solve it.
The day is not far when Pakis will be barred from the Haj - the ultimate tfta slap across their tight a**es.
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BRF was right, from the beginning.

It finally happened, after years of speculation.....

We should immediately overnight the blighter to the pakis and get rid of him ASAP

Pak institute shows Manmohan Singh as president of Pakistan!
Islamabad, Oct 24, 2014,
In an embarrassing blunder, a leading Pakistani economic institute invited President of Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Manmohan Singh to preside over its annual convocation next week, a media report said today.

In an embarrassing blunder, a leading Pakistani economic institute invited "President of Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Manmohan Singh" to preside over its annual convocation next week, a media report said today.

Pakistan Institute of Development Economics (PIDE), located in the capital, is holding its convocation on October 28 and wanted to invited president of the country Mamnoon Hussain to preside over the event.

Dunya News reported that the PIDE official invitation issued showed Manmohan Singh printed in place of Mamnoon Hussain, thus declaring the former Indian premier as president of Pakistan.

The blunder was later identified and corrected but it was already too late and the official invitation had been dispatched to several high-profile VIP guests.
None of the PIDE officials were available to comment on the issue.
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Will MMS travel to preside over this function?
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Aditya_V wrote:Will MMS travel to preside over this function?
:rotfl:
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Our baboos should never goto pakistan because pakis are scamsters. They collected IMF loans worth billions of $ but when it came to paying back the loans, 'told IMF to get lost'.

Unfortunately India got scammed too since India provides funding for IMF too.
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The vicious circle of terrorism - Editorial, DT
Three bomb blasts in Quetta by three different organizations, Jundullah, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ) and the Baloch Liberation Army (BLA), in the span of a few hours left the city, and the country, reeling in shock. Smarter than the state's law enforcement and intelligence agencies, which could neither detect nor prevent the attacks, the responsible organizations could calculate even in isolation from one another the impact of an attack on a day when the city was busy hosting one of the major political shows of a religious party. Maulana Fazlur Rehman’s rally it seems had been at the centre of the planning of all the three attackers; one that attacked the Maulana himself, the other that massacred eight Hazara Shias and the third aimed at the Frontier Corps, killing two soldiers. Maulana has been in the crosshairs of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) since 2008, and been attacked twice in 2001 in Swabi and Charsadda. Maulana has been in support of ihad for years, with the credit of running madrassas across the length and breadth of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, FATA and Balochistan. He was against the military operation in North Waziristan and even participated as a mediator to bring the peace talks between the government and the TTP to some logical conclusion. If even all this ‘good work’ could not secure Maulana from the wrath of the TTP and its affiliated groups such as Jundullah, one could imagine their designs on those considered infidels in their definition of Islam. It is a nagging thought however why only Maulana Fazlur Rehman is being attacked and not the other religious leaders who have been talking against the TTP’s policies.

The killers of the Hazara Shias, or any Shia in Pakistan, have unfortunately been the product of the same madrassas that Maulana and his affiliates have governed and managed. LeJ is killing the Hazara Shia (identifiable easily because of their looks) in Quetta mercilessly. The untouchable LeJ conducts rallies in Balochistan against Shias, it publishes hate material in local newspapers against them, and brandishes support to other equally savage anti-Shia parties, fearlessly. All this is happening under the nose of an administration that assumed power in 2013 with an aim to bring about peace in the insurgency-ridden province. But it is one thing to be in power and another to have the power to make a difference. Therefore, all that the province has been reduced to today is a potpourri of sectarian conflicts, ethnic cleansing and nationalist insurgency. Ostensibly, the impunity displayed by the LeJ and the freedom provided to the extremists in Balochistan, seems a tactical move by the establishment to take the shine away from the nationalist insurgency. Still, BLA’s killing of the FC personnel does create an impact. It serves to remind us that Balochistan has been virtually turned it into a dumping ground of Baloch nationalists’ corpses by the FC.

The killing in Balochistan is a spectacle of a state that has no laws but some self-serving tactics to run the country, with the result that Pakistan is fighting a battle for its survival on nearly every front today. There are areas and issues that have long slipped from the hands of the country’s leaders, both civilian and Khaki, owing to their flawed, duplicitous and archaic policies to secure the country’s safety from the perceived and real enemies. From Karachi to Quetta, into the hinterlands of Punjab and over to the peripheries, the fires of ethnicity, sectarianism and religious animosity have skewed the ethos of society. The much-talked of culture of intolerance speaks for it. Of what use would be Operation Zarb-e-Azb, if the government and the establishment do not take a holistic approach against terrorism and bring to end the policy of nurturing hardliners in its ranks. One expects the ritual crackdown on the LeJ and a few more words of condemnation from the government against the outfit, until the group activates again in a few months to repeat the cycle. However, it is time to extricate Balochistan along with the entire country from the vicious circle of terrorism before it explodes in our face one day.
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Pakistan will demand Kashmir if India wants to eradicate polio in Pakistan
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Aditya_V wrote:Will MMS travel to preside over this function?

One fervently hopes so, and then SoniaG and RahulG will need to be present to move the man's hands and legs....
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A_Gupta wrote:The Thar mess.

http://www.brecorder.com/articles-a-let ... 2014-10-01

I think the obligatory comparison with India at the end of the article is merely there for form.
Since the beginning of the month when the Business Recorder article was published, the hope that Sweeter than Honey, Taller Than Himalayas and Deeper than Indian Ocean friend P.R. China will provide the financing to bring Thar Lignite on stream has got even more iffy per the Express Tribune with P.R. China imposing conditions they know cannot be fulfilled.

Extract from the Business Recorder link posted above on the hope that P.R.China will provide:
Invoking financing for Thar coal mining and power plant, which would run into over 2 billions of dollars, is one of the major challenges. In the absence of bankable feasibility, which itself could cost over USD 150-200 million with results drawn out of test pits and environment studies makes equity and debt financing even more difficult.

Thar coal exploitation funding is not a favourite of traditional power sector supporters like the World Bank, the IFC and the ADB or similar due to coal's deservedly bad reputation as a major pollutant. At the moment, funding out of China appears to be the only viable option.
Extracts from the Express Tribune that Sweeter than Honey, Taller Than Himalayas and Deeper than Indian Ocean friend P.R. China is baulking at stumping up the cash by imposing conditions they know cannot be fulfilled:

Thar project: Chinese lenders refuse to accept sovereign guarantees
“Chinese banks want Engro to take 50% of the risk and the rest by Sinosure (an export credit insurance company of China), but we are not in a position to bear the risk,” said Shamsuddin Ahmed Shaikh, Chief Executive Officer of SECMC, during a press briefing.
“The Thar coal project is part of the Early Harvest Programme to be implemented with the cooperation of China,” he said. “Despite that, Chinese banks including Exim Bank, China Development Bank and Industrial and Commercial Bank of China (ICBC) are reluctant to offer loans and the project has been placed in the high-risk area.”
The National Electric Power Regulatory Authority (Nepra) has allowed a spread of 4.5% over the London Interbank Offered Rate (Libor), but, according to Shaikh, Chinese banks did not accept it, instead they sought 5.5%.

He pointed out that the regulator had capped upfront fee for Sinosure at 7%, but because of the presence of circular debt, the company asked for a fee of 9% for credit risk insurance. “The cap on Sinosure fee needs to be aligned with the market rate,” he suggested.
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arun wrote:Since the beginning of the month when the Business Recorder article was published, the hope that Sweeter than Honey, Taller Than Himalayas and Deeper than Indian Ocean friend P.R. China will provide the financing to bring Thar Lignite on stream has got even more iffy
Isn't that the great scientist Samir Mubarakmand's pet project ?
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Let me make a prediction.

I will predict that Pakistan will start developing like a normal country the day the STFUP thread of BRF falls out of page 1 of this forum and reaches page 2
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SSridhar wrote:
arun wrote:Since the beginning of the month when the Business Recorder article was published, the hope that Sweeter than Honey, Taller Than Himalayas and Deeper than Indian Ocean friend P.R. China will provide the financing to bring Thar Lignite on stream has got even more iffy
Isn't that the great scientist Samir Mubarakmand's pet project ?
Oh Samir Bundmarakmard?
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Reported in Nawa-e-Waqt (October 10, 2014), private schools of Pakistan celebrated ‘I am not Malala Day’ on October 10. The students were educated against Malala Yousafzai’s book, which the All Pakistan Private Schools Federation says will stay banned in all schools. - See more at: http://www.thefridaytimes.com/tft/nugge ... CORcg.dpuf
Reported in Nawa-e-Waqt (October 13, 2014), breakaway Taliban group Jamaatul Ahrar says Malala Yousafzai is an agent of the enemies of Islam. She says she is against guns and war, but she does not know the founder of the Novel prize had invented dynamite. - See more at: http://www.thefridaytimes.com/tft/nugge ... CORcg.dpuf
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct

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shiv wrote:Let me make a prediction.

I will predict that Pakistan will start developing like a normal country the day the STFUP thread of BRF falls out of page 1 of this forum and reaches page 2
I've found my calling.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct

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disha wrote:
Atri wrote:
First of its kind, a very good and relevant debate between Afghanistan, Pakistan and India, on 'Terrorism as a Foreign Policy Tool'.
Atri'ji - Any debate which has Loony Shankar Aiyar is neither good nor relevant. If you do not believe me, ask Ms. Kiran Mazumdar Shaw. She has mouthful to say about Loony Shankar Aiyar.
Did some Googling, but couldn't find what Ms. Kiran Mazumdar Shaw had to say about MSA. Any link? But while I would welcome anybody discrediting this clown MSA, but I doubt Kiran Mazumdar Shaw's criticism will have any impact on this "uninterrupted and uninterruptible" MSA.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct

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A positive view of Pakistan from the Chaighar:
http://pakteahouse.net/2014/10/24/the-r ... -pakistan/
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct

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private schools of Pakistan celebrated ‘I am not Malala Day’ on October 10. The students were educated against Malala Yousafzai’s book, which the All Pakistan Private Schools Federation says will stay banned in all schools.
Ridiculous seems to be new normal these days. This is beyond victory over kufr. The idea of Pakistan seems to be succeeding a little bit now - from anti India to unjahilia.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct

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A_Gupta wrote:A positive view of Pakistan from the Chaighar:
http://pakteahouse.net/2014/10/24/the-r ... -pakistan/
Pakistani researcher Professor Sohail Khan headed a team at Loughborough University, England that designed a lavatory system that converts human waste into biological charcoal, which can be used as fuel. This lavatory also produces clean water.
Lo ji, Sohail Khan would charcoal solidification, Mukarakmandbudhi would coal liquification..
In many ways, it is a highly successful country, and to discount it as any less would be something the world does at its own peril.
Chaighar would do gassification.
Martial law, what a country.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct

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Amarulla saleh is insulting pakis in "Dialogue between neighbours" (India, pakisatan & Afghanistan) being telecasted by NDTV, pakis are literally speechless. Guess, who came to the rescue of pakis?
The most prominent paki in India, mani shankar non-aiyar. he is parroting paki lines like, pakisatan has lost most people because of terrorism. :mrgreen:

NDTV Live
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct

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Amarullah and that other Afghani were superb. So was subramanyam swami. Oh man liked the way Amarullah told the Paki roaches that the only export from TSP is bomb makers, LED makers, ans suicide bombers :-). The Paki low life filth truly have no shame. They put out a bunch of Christian victims whose church was blasted, and for whom they have no regard, just to showcase their so called "victim-hood". Ackk Thoo. Bloody diseased rodents.
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