Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec 2014

Baikul · Post by **Baikul** » 20 Dec 2014 00:07

^^ Perhaps Chetakullah was confused, like me, whether you meant that the attack was a setback or the subsequent capture...

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 20 Dec 2014 00:07

Anujan wrote:Marriott was a CIA station and many got killed.

Any link or reference would be much appreciated, Sirji. I seem to have missed this completely onlee.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 20 Dec 2014 00:12

Edited my post and added link.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 20 Dec 2014 00:20

Anujan wrote:Edited my post and added link.

Thanks, sirji.

Also been touring wiki, et al. You are absolutely right.

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 20 Dec 2014 00:20

waal istreet journail wrote: The prime minister also lifted a seven-year-old moratorium on the death penalty, only for terrorists, following the attack. On Friday, two convicted militants were executed, said officials at the Faisalabad prison where the death sentence was carried out.

So then what, terrorists AND militants, or did they just decide good taliban=bad taliban=militants=terrorists=blasphemers? By the way, Frontier Corpse: 119 for 4, at lunch on jumma. Were any children? Names and offences? Follow up investigation? Weaspons or arms caches?

partha · Post by **partha** » 20 Dec 2014 00:24

Anujan wrote:Marriott was a CIA station and many got killed.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamaba ... n_presence

They had eavesdropping equipment there because paki telephone exchange was nearby.

hmm..so it's possible Marriott was bombed by Pak deep state to scuttle CIA snooping?

komal · Post by **komal** » 20 Dec 2014 02:31

partha wrote:
Anujan wrote:Marriott was a CIA station and many got killed.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamaba ... n_presence

They had eavesdropping equipment there because paki telephone exchange was nearby.
hmm..so it's possible Marriott was bombed by Pak deep state to scuttle CIA snooping?

Scuttle snooping that would enable the US to find out about 26/11 that was to take place in the next few weeks?

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 20 Dec 2014 02:35

Despite billions of dollars in aid, US unable to get Pakistan to confront militants

WASHINGTON: Since 2001 the United States has tried virtually every strategy available to persuade Pakistan's army to take the threat of militancy more seriously, but 12 years and $28 billion in aid later, all the American approaches are widely viewed as having failed.

"There is great 'Pakistan fatigue' in Washington," said Cameron Munter, who served as the American ambassador to Pakistan from 2010 to 2012. "Not only have the last dozen years been very difficult, but other challenges — from Syria to Ukraine to Iran, to name a few — demand our attention."

Since 2001 a parade of American officials — from presidents to CIA directors — have repeatedly warned Pakistan's generals that they will lose control of their militant proxies and eventually be attacked by them. Pakistani military officials have denied sheltering militants.

But some current and former US officials said the sheer brutality of this week's attack would intensify demands from Pakistan's public for the army to confront militancy. James Dobbins, who served as the Obama Administration's Special Representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan from 2013 to 2014, said there was also growing pressure from Pakistan's longtime ally China.

"I think they are pressing Pakistan to take this threat more seriously," he said

But Shamila Chaudhary, who served as senior director for Pakistan and Afghanistan on the National Security Council from 2010 to 2011, warned that as US attention has shifted elsewhere, the steady deterioration of Pakistan's institutions, security forces and economy has continued.

For years, Chaudhary said, she dismissed alarmist warnings from other US experts on Pakistan that the country's nuclear arsenal was unsafe. The inability of Pakistan's security forces to protect a military-run school, she said, has given her doubts regarding Pakistan's atomic arsenal for the first time.

"I will have a hard time saying to people that militants can never steal Pakistan's nuclear weapons," she said."The more these things happen, that rate of risk goes ahead, and I just think, well, it could happen one day."

Cheers

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 20 Dec 2014 02:40

Taliban video identifies Umar Mansoor as mastermind behind Peshawar attacks

Six Pakistani Taliban interviewed by Reuters confirmed the mastermind was Mansoor. Four of them said he is close to Mullah Fazlullah, the embattled leader of the fractious group who ordered assassins to kill schoolgirl activist Malala Yousafzai.

"He strictly follows the principles of jihad," one said. "He is strict in principles, but very kind to his juniors. He is popular among the juniors because of his bravery and boldness."

Mansoor got a high school education in the capital, Islamabad, two Taliban members said, and later studied in a madrassa, a religious school.

"Umar Mansoor had a tough mind from a very young age, he was always in fights with other boys," said one Taliban member.

Mansoor has two brothers and spent some time working in the city of Karachi as a labourer before joining the Taliban soon after it was formed, in late 2007, said one commander.

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 20 Dec 2014 02:41

At the exchange rate of 1 osamma == $28B the real crown jew-el was osamma. Still osamma was taken out and even touriust value urs is not possible.

By comparijon the nukular weapuns have not been taken out. Eithger they are not worth much, or if they are worth anything then they have been taken out.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 20 Dec 2014 02:59

Ankar wrote:
Baikul wrote:Let us observe a 2 minute silence for the martyrs....
+72

Many Indians like me will be willing to hold my tongue and observe complete silence for whole day, but only for full, complete Shahid Pakistan .

partha · Post by **partha** » 20 Dec 2014 03:03

Shreeman wrote:At the exchange rate of 1 osamma == $28B the real crown jew-el was osamma. Still osamma was taken out and even touriust value urs is not possible.

By comparijon the nukular weapuns have not been taken out. Eithger they are not worth much, or if they are worth anything then they have been taken out.

Shreemanji, 1 osamma == $28B but Pakistan has suffered a loss of $100B because of being a front line all lie in war of terror. So Amreeka owes Pakistan at least 3 more osammas.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 20 Dec 2014 03:25

partha wrote:
Anujan wrote:Marriott was a CIA station and many got killed.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamaba ... n_presence

They had eavesdropping equipment there because paki telephone exchange was nearby.
hmm..so it's possible Marriott was bombed by Pak deep state to scuttle CIA snooping?

That is true. Pearl continental hotel was bombed too and it was a CIA station that the amreekis wanted to convert to a "consulate". A consulate in Peshawar of all places. Yeah right.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Co ... el_bombing

Also here is the Usman fella who in his good Taliban days was released even when a case was pending.
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/ ... ack_ma.php

He served in the army too. And took a sabbatical to Jaish E Mohammad. In fact there are several stories of Abduls taking leave from the army to join terror organizations and then disobeying their army commanders because those commanders were junior to the Abduls in the terror organizations.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 20 Dec 2014 03:36

Can 100 of the new 1Ton 100Km range gliding bombs of FAE /Napalm/Cluster type with no thermal signature ,quietly grace Murdike when Islamist Yahoos gather next year to cheer terrorist Halfizz Saeed?
Just the rumor , threat will scatter these Kookars like pigeons at the sight of Hawk.

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 20 Dec 2014 03:39

partha wrote:
Shreeman wrote:At the exchange rate of 1 osamma == $28B the real crown jew-el was osamma. Still osamma was taken out and even touriust value urs is not possible.

By comparijon the nukular weapuns have not been taken out. Eithger they are not worth much, or if they are worth anything then they have been taken out.
Shreemanji, 1 osamma == $28B but Pakistan has suffered a loss of $100B because of being a front line all lie in war of terror. So Amreeka owes Pakistan at least 3 more osammas.

Yes, yes. Of course the fair market value of osamma is roughly $100B. Why else do you think Amrika has hidden it instead of displaying it like in tower of london or using it publicly like a saddam or gaddafi.

The question is what of nukular weapuns. Why not also $10B per nukular weapun secured from taliban?

Combined both, even if osamma was sold at cut rate price, the loss can be recovered. If nukulkar bums are not selling, even to the good korea, then they must not be any good. Or were they already taken out at the with us/against us stage so no rent was paid afterward. Like osamma, all bums incur many maintenance money. See russia.

May be photochor sold all the bums to better korea at a cut rate price just like the good polio doctor sold osamma? I have many doubts.

They got to mrs brigadier this time. I mean if they get to a crore cammandu's favorite wife, the taliban can probably get the launch codes from her locket. This way they have the bum and the rocket. No need to take it any where. launch it straight to yahud/hanud/chiristaan. the world is taking a big risk leaving pskistan army families in pakistan. cant they be evacuated to canadda?

This way canadda also bekomes a nukular power. Otherwise it will be bahrain or saudi arapia.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 20 Dec 2014 03:39

that mariott was the luxury chain JW Marriott not the middle class mariott courtyard types.
so it had the additional aura of being a evening watering hole of most western diplomats there.

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 20 Dec 2014 03:42

Jhujar wrote:Can 100 of the new 1Ton 100Km range gliding bombs of FAE /Napalm/Cluster type with no thermal signature ,quietly grace Murdike when Islamist Yahoos gather next year to cheer terrorist Halfizz Saeed?
Just the rumor , threat will scatter these Kookars like pigeons at the sight of Hawk.

You dont need fancy bums (and no, a glide bum is not invible, unless carried by djinns) for a dawood or hafiz. but they are a red line with pakistan. pakistans integrity will be in danger. so unless you want a hoit stove, you let them squeal and hope tomorrow you are better secured or may be a brain eating amee-abba gets to them by chance.

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 20 Dec 2014 03:44

Singha wrote:that mariott was the luxury chain JW Marriott not the middle class mariott courtyard types.
so it had the additional aura of being a evening watering hole of most western diplomats there.

Location more than luxury. One expected the presence of rich pakistani targets would attract attackers elsewhere. If you could get that far, then every civil abdul is walking distance.why waste energy on a few kufr when you can take over the kingdom, hain?

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 20 Dec 2014 03:50

https://twitter.com/FATIMAIBUTT/status/ ... 7332348928

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 20 Dec 2014 03:50

Glad Tiding Pakisatano Malsi Aa Gya: Faithfools Ka AssChick,Aqal Ka Dushman,Malsi Hai Insaniat Say Zuudah
Separating our gods

The TTP’s stance is simple. Since they have excommunicated the Pakistan Army for launching the operation against the Taliban, the Army officers’ children automatically are declared to be among the murtadeen, just like their fathers. This is why the militants categorically asked who the children of Army officers were, lest they indulge in the ‘haram’ act of killing a Muslim, before heinously exploiting the innocence of raised hands.But then again how do the Taliban validate the massacre of children, when there are clear instructions throughout the Islamic scriptures to not kill women and children? Through the belief that anyone who has reached the age of puberty – or to quote Khorasani ‘old enough to have pubic hair’ – is no longer a child as stated in Islamic scriptures.And that’s how you justify bludgeoning bullets in the chest of a 14-year-old kid. By first apostatising them and then declaring them adults worthy of waging war against. This is precisely how the attack on Malala Yousafzai was justified in 2012 through the seven-page letter released by the then TTP spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan, where he used the Islamic scripture to defend their violence.Promote jihad and hatred for non-believers long enough and one day the mujahid sees a little murtid in a 14-year-old school kid. That’s how Malala was targeted. That’s why we mourn the massacre of 132 schoolchildren.While there are a multitude of pertinent steps that need to be taken by the military, the federal and provincial governments and the law enforcing authorities to counter the immediate Taliban threat, the long-term revamp would need some ideological soul-searching.Do we really need to look into commandments, scriptures or any holy text to decide whether indiscriminately killing human beings – let alone schoolchildren – is wrong? Do we really need the approval of religion to give verdicts on morality when decapitated heads, burned faces, flogged backs and stoned corpses should suffice? Do we really need to delve into antediluvian books to discern barbarity?
As long as we seek religion’s approval on matters that lie outside the realm of individuality, religion would continue to be used to validate bestiality. It’s time to draw a line which religion, regardless of its esteem or the plurality of interpretations, should not be allowed to cross. It’s time to distinguish right and wrong without seeking the sanction of religion.Why is it mandatory for many of us to first declare Taliban as non-Muslims – the militants’ takfiri act that we ironically reciprocate – before condemning their action? Why do the echoing chants of ‘Allaho Akbar’ or the titles for their organisation – Taliban-e-Islam, Islamic State, et al – not suffice in sanctioning their religious identity?As long as we continue to deny that these Islamist militants are Muslims or that they cite Islamic scriptures to rationalise their terrorism, the jihadist ideology that is eroding our societal and national roots will continue to exist. As long as jihad, hatred for nonbelievers, and Muslim supremacy in any form whatsoever is promulgated, supremacists will hijack Islam, promoting its most violent form through sheer clout. Any society that will differentiate between Muslims and non-Muslims will inevitably breed Islamists.When political leaders like Munawar Hasan endorse ‘qital fi sabilillah’; a Shia genocide proponent like Ahmad Ludhianvi gets to sit in the Parliament; and the chief of a terrorist organisation Hafiz Saeed is seen giving verdicts on terrorism on live television operation Zarb-e-Azb’s limitations are criminally exposed and the need for its ideological counterpart critically highlighted.Pakistan needs to cleanse itself from these jihad-mongers that are collectively responsible for the suffocation of non-Muslims, the sectarian turmoil and for the country’s regional volatility. And equally, Pakistan needs to purge itself of budding jihadists by strictly moderating mosques and madrassas, which spew hatred on a daily basis for anyone deemed to be a nonbeliever.When all hopes rest on Allah for crimes committed in his name, there’s a clear ideological paradox that needs to be overcome. We need to separate our Allah from that of the Taliban. Our Allah needs to be more inclusive, more pluralistic, more tolerant and most importantly, more popular than the Taliban’s.And that is impossible without accepting the Taliban as Muslims and the Islamist ideology as a version of Islam that is no longer workable in the 21st century.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 20 Dec 2014 03:55

Published on Dec 20, 2014
By Sachin Parashar
Taliban threaten to kill politicians’ kids next: Times of India

After the gruesome killing of children in Peshawar this week, Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan has warned the Nawaz Sharif government that it will start eliminating children of politicians, including Sharif's family, and army officers if the Pakistan government keeps its commitment to hang militants owing allegiance to the terror outfit.

The warning came in the form of a letter, written apparently by Mohammed Kharasani, believed to be a top commander of Tehrik-e-Taliban chief Mullah Fazlullah. It was received by Pakistan authorities on Friday evening. TOI has access to the letter.

Top sources said they were trying to verify if the letter was genuine. The letter justified the killing of young children saying the kids were committed to following in the footsteps of their parents.

While the letter doesn't mention India, it is still of interest as one of those facing death sentence in Pakistan is Omar Sheikh, one of the terrorists released in the Kandahar hijacking and also the killer of Daniel Pearl.

The letter says that if any incarcerated terrorist is killed, TTP will take revenge by killing more young children. "Let us make it clear to Pakistan establishment that if any of our associates is harmed, we will avenge ourselves by targeting your children. We would ensure that houses of army generals and political leaders become centers of mourning," said the letter.

It accused the Pakistan government of falling prey to the designs of the army and ISI when what was required was a reform of these institutions. "Why the human rights organizations, which are not aware of the reasons of the attack on Army Public School, silent on this decision of the infidel government. We, in light of Islamic teaching, consider the killing of the children of army personnel as justified as they are not opposing the anti-Islam role of their parents and are committed to follow the path of their parents. We are giving an open invitation of debate to religion leaders who are issuing decrees in favour of the government."

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 20 Dec 2014 04:09

@kursed: Okay, PAF source confirms strike inside Afghanistan in collaboration with ANA and ISAF."

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 20 Dec 2014 04:14

Brophecy of Ghazwa Pakistan from KhuuraSaand is coming true. Leaders and Elites of Bakistan will be tied in chains and brought Before Maulana Fazalullah as guests of Sharialand.

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 20 Dec 2014 04:31

Bakistanis identify the root cause of the deaths of 120 future Bakistani-Army people (aka uniformed jihadis) and the answer is:

INDIA

Video features Mushy and other colorful characters. Pretty long, so watch only if you have sometime to waste.

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 20 Dec 2014 04:35

Shreeman wrote:
krishnan wrote:all hot gas, what kind of evidence are they talking about ?
Under the circumstances, I believe pakistan has a right to "hot pursuit", nay, of creating a buffer zone between pakistan and afghanistan north of the durand line. I believe pakistan should also launch drone strikes at terrorist sanctuaries in kandahar.

Come on sherrif, make it happen, we are all pulling for you!

Yaay, three cheers for sherrif. Now lets not stop at 1 token strike. hot pourrsuit!! hot purrsuit!!!

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 20 Dec 2014 04:38

there is a news making round that paki army killed maulana fazalullah.. dunno how credible this news is.

eklavya · Post by **eklavya** » 20 Dec 2014 04:48

Shreeman wrote:
Jhujar wrote:Can 100 of the new 1Ton 100Km range gliding bombs of FAE /Napalm/Cluster type with no thermal signature ,quietly grace Murdike when Islamist Yahoos gather next year to cheer terrorist Halfizz Saeed?
Just the rumor , threat will scatter these Kookars like pigeons at the sight of Hawk.
You dont need fancy bums (and no, a glide bum is not invible, unless carried by djinns) for a dawood or hafiz. but they are a red line with pakistan. pakistans integrity will be in danger. so unless you want a hoit stove, you let them squeal and hope tomorrow you are better secured or may be a brain eating amee-abba gets to them by chance.

That red line can be crossed and should have been crossed in Nov/Dec 2008 itself, and frankly right after the Parliament attack in Dec 2001. The Pakis are cowards and will simply erase and draw another one.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 20 Dec 2014 05:06

RajeshA wrote:Published on Dec 20, 2014
By Sachin Parashar
Taliban threaten to kill politicians’ kids next: Times of India

After the gruesome killing of children in Peshawar this week, Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan has warned the Nawaz Sharif government that it will start eliminating children of politicians, including Sharif's family, and army officers if the Pakistan government keeps its commitment to hang militants owing allegiance to the terror outfit.

The warning came in the form of a letter, written apparently by Mohammed Kharasani, believed to be a top commander of Tehrik-e-Taliban chief Mullah Fazlullah. It was received by Pakistan authorities on Friday evening. TOI has access to the letter.

Top sources said they were trying to verify if the letter was genuine. The letter justified the killing of young children saying the kids were committed to following in the footsteps of their parents.

While the letter doesn't mention India, it is still of interest as one of those facing death sentence in Pakistan is Omar Sheikh, one of the terrorists released in the Kandahar hijacking and also the killer of Daniel Pearl.

The letter says that if any incarcerated terrorist is killed, TTP will take revenge by killing more young children. "Let us make it clear to Pakistan establishment that if any of our associates is harmed, we will avenge ourselves by targeting your children. We would ensure that houses of army generals and political leaders become centers of mourning," said the letter.

It accused the Pakistan government of falling prey to the designs of the army and ISI when what was required was a reform of these institutions. "Why the human rights organizations, which are not aware of the reasons of the attack on Army Public School, silent on this decision of the infidel government. We, in light of Islamic teaching, consider the killing of the children of army personnel as justified as they are not opposing the anti-Islam role of their parents and are committed to follow the path of their parents. We are giving an open invitation of debate to religion leaders who are issuing decrees in favour of the government."

Old but relevant given latest events in Pukeland.

surinder · Post by **surinder** » 20 Dec 2014 05:37

The Peshawar attack is interesting and unprecedented, even for TSP.

+ The whole thing made sense only when I heard that the school was an Army school.

+ It would be good to get confirmation that it was a school of the officers, or the lower ranked people. If it is the officer's baba log, then it is a hard hit and it will change of things.

+ Are the killed Pakjabi officers or Pashtun? From the brief looks of it, it looks that they are Pakjabi kids. This will cause panic in Pakjab. It will initiate a Pakjabi-Pashtun fight.

+ This attack is going to change the behavior of the TSPA army. I don't think they can take this kind of hit to them. They already are isolated from the Mango Abdul, this is going to isolate them further.

+ Pakjabis have not allowed the Pashtuns to settle in Pakjab. If they had, then Army kids in Pakjab would be more vulnerable.

+ What is the impact of this on Sarkari Pathans?

+ Someone should go over the names of the deceased and see if they see Pathan last names or the Pakjabi last names (which are mostly standard ROP last names, not real last names).

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 20 Dec 2014 05:43

Someone asked here before about the video that shows Bakistani Uniformed Jihadis executing kids of unwashed Pashtoons. (apparently Tarek Fatah also remembered this one):

http://tarekfatah.com/pakistan-army-cau ... old-blood/

mehroke · Post by **mehroke** » 20 Dec 2014 05:46

Many Indians like me will be willing to hold my tongue and observe complete silence for whole day, but only for full, complete Shahid Pakistan .[/quote]

+1 Jujhar Ji

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 20 Dec 2014 06:01

"An army officer was giving first aid lessons on the main stage of the auditorium when the gunmen burst in."

The administration block was where the siege ended. Five militants exploded their suicide vests in the lobby; the remaining two charged at the commandos who had taken position outside the building. They also exploded their vests, sending a spray of shrapnel into trees and walls and wounding seven commandos, one of whom received serious injuries to the face.

Most of the students were the children of military personnel, the militants’ spokesman said, seeking to publicly justify the gunmen’s targets. Ms. Qazi, the slain principal, was married to a retired army colonel.

Some mourners expressed frustration at the apparent impotence of their own security forces. “What is this army for?” shouted one man at the city’s main Lady Reading hospital, where he had come to collect the body of his grandson.

“Where are their atom bombs and airplanes now?” he said. “They were of no use if they cannot protect us from death in our daily lives.”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/12/18/wo ... ghter.html

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 20 Dec 2014 06:10

Lady Reading Hospital, Ganga Ram Hospital, No Islamic Hauzpeetal Hain Ji ?

Our Indian headache
Fanney Khan Bhopali, Khyal Pullavi
( Kya Kashmir Kore Issue Solving Nahi Chahiyye?)

If Pakistan is a security state today, it is because since its very inception, India has exerted tremendous pressure on the nascent country through its soft power. Guess why was Gandhiji killed? Because he had protested against the Indian government’s decision to deprive the newborn country of its due cash balance. Indian rulers and important ministers continuously kept predicting our premature demise. Indian actors have accepted some of the worst roles in foreign films depicting Pakistanis. It is not about the four open wars that the two countries fought. It is about a single indivisible cold war that India has fought against my poor country and transformed us into the great regional tragedy.Ever wonder why Pakistanis think India might have a hand in terrorism within Pakistan? It’s new national security adviser Ajit Doval’s video is online in which he confesses of spending seven years as undercover agent in Pakistan as a Muslim shrine devotee.. Who knows how many others are here doing what?I don’t know what this inferiority-superiority complex thing is that India keeps channelling. Perhaps, suppressed hatred of centuries spent under Muslim rule. But it has made our lives hell. India says Pakistan has a Muslim terror problem. We sure do. Terrorists just killed 132 of our children. India says it has a Muslim terror problem of its own. What it doesn’t see is that its actual problem is the Hindu terror/extremist terror problem. Why do you think Pakistan parted its ways with India? Hindu-Muslim riots there have cost 10,000 lives since 1950. Pakistan’s fault? How do you think Modi rose to power? Until India doesn’t confront this menace, its secularism will remain a sham and it won’t be the hegemon it wants to be. It has subconsciously chosen to remain a petty country not a regional power. ( De De De De Allah ke Naam pey, iss beggar ko Kahirat Dede) a Otherwise sirs, stop worrying about us and move on.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 20 Dec 2014 06:29

http://www.dawn.com/news/1151859/time-t ... -our-midst

I no longer care what our politicians can do, what our government can do, what our army can do about terrorism.

It is about time we started asking what we can do.

First and foremost, we can confront the Taliban apologists in our midst.

I have encountered four so far in two days, one in my own family. People, who add a back channel, misdirect and misappropriate blame to feed their own personal politics and ideologies. Everyone who adds a qualifier to terrorism, inserting their own conspiracy theory agent of choice ‘government/India/America/Israel’ as the ‘actual’ culprit, in the face of the real culprits proudly boasting their actions.

I had always turned the other cheek when I encountered these responses, vowing to leave them to their lunacy. That must stop.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 20 Dec 2014 07:06

A_Gupta wrote:http://www.dawn.com/news/1151859/time-t ... -our-midst

Either denial, or fear of speaking the truth.

Broadly speaking, our ‘Good Taliban’ have been people who preach hate and extremism, while our ‘Bad Taliban’ have been the ones who openly practice it.

gakakkad · Post by **gakakkad** » 20 Dec 2014 07:20

SaiK wrote:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home ... 577152.cms

something to irk our fizzic friends here

why do bhookha nanga biladels , spent 10.7 million a year on getting a cern associate membership when US,Russia,India,Canada and Japan have been trying to put it off for years?

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 20 Dec 2014 07:24

Jhujar wrote:Lady Reading Hospital, Ganga Ram Hospital, No Islamic Hauzpeetal Hain Ji ?

Our Indian headache
Fanney Khan Bhopali, Khyal Pullavi
( Kya Kashmir Kore Issue Solving Nahi Chahiyye?)

Why does the fella have so much India fixation? The reason why India is concerned about terrorism is simple: Pakistan uses terrorism against India to achieve a political end. And whatever

they do about Peshawar, India suffered the Mumbai attacks before that. And train bombings and stock exchange bombing in the 90s. All properly traced to personalities who are cooling their heels in Pakistan. People can write columns about how Pakistan has only the best of interests towards India, but all of that is hogwash given that the perpetrators are being sheltered and even encouraged in Pakistan.

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 20 Dec 2014 07:26

gakakkad wrote:
SaiK wrote:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home ... 577152.cms

something to irk our fizzic friends here
why do bhookha nanga biladels , spent 10.7 million a year on getting a cern associate membership when US,Russia,India,Canada and Japan have been trying to put it off for years?

to add - x-post from physics dhaga....
>>>

SaiK wrote:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home ... 577152.cms

something to irk our fizzic friends here

".

..Pakistan-beats-India-in-race-to-become-Cern-associate-member..

Along with India, Pakistan also "beats" Japan, Russia, Canada and the USA.. (Who have same status of "membership" as India..)... What a dorky ddm..

BTW..Some one should put a headline in Paki newspaper(s)... Israel was the latest "member".. a "status" above Pak's "associate member"

saip · Post by **saip** » 20 Dec 2014 07:31

Even their friend China is not a member.

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 20 Dec 2014 07:37

^^^ Speaking of CERN and Pakistan... Pakistan is the only country in the world, whose decorated scientist (Tamgha-e-Imtiaz - no less) came to be known as plagiarist --- of copying word by word from a booklet given to aam abdul visitors who visit CERN..No I am not making that up...

Link:http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 89#p844389
(News articles are few years old but Pakis are still fairly well know in CERN .)
Added later: google gives: http://app.hec.gov.pk/Press_Releases/20 ... hApril.htm

The summary is in one blog... I am mildly amused that it is called: "tspnews.blogspot.com
Plagiarism could affect Pak-Swiss research ties