Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec 2014

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Amber G. » 20 Dec 2014 07:37

^^^ Speaking of CERN and Pakistan... Pakistan is the only country in the world, whose decorated scientist (Tamgha-e-Imtiaz - no less) came to be known as plagiarist --- of copying word by word from a booklet given to aam abdul visitors who visit CERN..No I am not making that up... :rotfl:



Link:http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic.php?p=844389#p844389
(News articles are few years old but Pakis are still fairly well know in CERN .)
Added later: google gives: http://app.hec.gov.pk/Press_Releases/2007/April/5thApril.htm

The summary is in one blog... I am mildly amused that it is called: "tspnews.blogspot.com
Plagiarism could affect Pak-Swiss research ties
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Anujan » 20 Dec 2014 07:49

^^
Photochor Khan also copied word for word some random university website, published an article and later claimed he was making it easier for people to find that information :mrgreen:

http://www.3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdail ... -bomb.html

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Postby A_Gupta » 20 Dec 2014 08:00

FYI, Mantriji and CCFair:
https://twitter.com/KiranKS/status/5459 ... 33/photo/1

PS: Twitter watch: CCFair: "Fortunately, I have THREE books under contract on al Bakistan..so that will keep me busy for a while"
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby shiv » 20 Dec 2014 08:00

Anupam Kher, article linked in the Yawn, and my comment
http://www.dawn.com/news/1151602/

My comment may not get published:

Anupam Kher. You mention pogrom in "Lidice, Dachau, the purges of Stalin, the Cultural Revolution of Mao, the killing fields of Cambodia". What made you forget Bangladesh - where massacres started on 25th March 1971 and continued until Deecember 1971? Were you feeling alive and fresh during those 9 deadly months?

May I point out that Pakistanis have been in the same sort of denial and avoidance of the truth that you display in this cleverly worded article, written to please, rather than to be truthful.

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Postby A_Gupta » 20 Dec 2014 08:25

Shiv, maybe Anupam Kher didn't want to say Bangladesh 1971 was "But these were political movements or results of conflict.".

Anyway, deadly comment :)

I came here to post this, however, Abhijit Bhattacharya's take on WKKs, in the Telegraph.
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1141220/j ... y_4283.jsp
Begins thusly:

It was a chance meeting in 2013 with one Lieutenant Colonel Sankalp Kumar in a defence institute library that understandably led us to an animated discussion on Pakistan, jihad, terror. One vividly recalled the gist of our conversation after seeing on television the body of that bright, young officer of the Indian army on the funeral pyre. Late Sankalp had put across some very simple and matter-of-fact questions, the answers to which I could perhaps dare suggest, but never pass on, to the Indian establishment headed by the popularly and jocularly termed "Delhi gang". This is a minority Indian elite group, constituting the "exclusive club members of aman ki asha" - a few establishment hand-picked peaceniks with deep-rooted Indo-Pakistan business interests (even at the cost of the unity and integrity of the Indian nation); the "legendary Lahore lovers" (for whom Lahore is the mid-point of the universe); the "guided" (should one say misguided?) tourists who swear by the "charm offensive" hosts serving biryani, gosht and kebabs of "exotic Lahori bazaars"; a few retired diplomats, handful of ex-generals and "club class" intellectuals - openly meeting Hafiz Saeed, the alleged mastermind of the Mumbai 26/11 attacks (and following it up with a press conference declaring how "fruitful" the meeting has been). All of them have the best of intentions, no doubt. But nobody has the wherewithals to implement the "lofty theory into lovely practice". Why? Because, for these well-intentioned Indians, 21st century is the era of "international interest", in which "national interest" at best comes as a footnote.

A few sample questions posed by the late soldier re-surfaces and crosses one's mind. "Sir, why do we not understand and analyse the psyche of the Pakistanis? Why is our establishment so namby-pamby and shy of planning and executing suitable counter-covert operations to nip the enemy in the bud? Why are we destroying the morale of our forces by tying their hands behind their back when Pakistani elements have penetrated deep into our soil? Why is our own government so pro-Pakistan when the whole world knows and avoids the terrorist State of Pakistan and the nationals thereof as potential terrorists? Are our leaders serving India or the enemy Pakistan?" There were some more penetrating analysis by the youngster which one rarely hears even from civil service officers dealing with the subject from the high tables of diplomacy in air-conditioned rooms. It transpired that the young officer had experienced bullet injuries and long hospitalization and that he did not mind facing the enemy in the battlefield once again.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby sanjaykumar » 20 Dec 2014 08:28

Why does the fella have so much India fixation? The reason why India is concerned about terrorism is simple: Pakistan uses terrorism against India to achieve a political end. And whatever :( they do about Peshawar, India suffered the Mumbai attacks before that. And train bombings and stock exchange bombing in the 90s. All properly traced to personalities who are cooling their heels in Pakistan. People can write columns about how Pakistan has only the best of interests towards India, but all of that is hogwash given that the perpetrators are being sheltered and even encouraged in Pakistan.



When terrorism dries up India's interest in Pakistan will end. This is what Pakistan fears that it will become just another state for a desk in the foreign office. That its obsession will not be requited.

Pakistanis are Muslims promised by their god rule over kafirs, Pakistanis are inheritors to and legatees of the Mughals (how so is left nebulous). Further Pakistanis, other than the starved 90 % are taller and lighter complexioned than Indians thus having a superior claim on izzat and aukat. Pakistanis have a frustrated claim over fellow Muslims whom they are unable to rightfully enslave and kill in religio-judicial ways much as the Baloach or Balwaristan Shias. Hindus have frustrated divine Sunni justice.

There are poor Muslims in India, never mind that there are starving Muslims in Pakistan, the Hindu injustice remains. A society that is demonstrably retro-evolving, devolving, that has no hope for a better future, of equality of opportunity, of freedom from army monopolisation of a preindustrial economy is aghast at what it sees over the border. They see themselves sans Islam and that is deeply subversive to their god's order. It calls into question the whole narrative, the one that began in Araby.

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Postby Kashi » 20 Dec 2014 08:40

Jhujar wrote:Our Indian headache
Fanney Khan Bhopali, Khyal Pullavi


This Paki takes the "Ulta chor kotwaal ko daante" to a whole new level.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby SSridhar » 20 Dec 2014 08:54

A_Gupta wrote:Abhijit Bhattacharya's take on WKKs, in the Telegraph.
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1141220/j ... y_4283.jsp
. . . Because, for these well-intentioned Indians, 21st century is the era of "international interest", in which "national interest" at best comes as a footnote.

Ah, what a fine piece !

On the issue of the current century being an era of 'international interest' at the cost of 'national interest', these 'Delhi-gang', 'legendary Lahore lovers', 'charm-offended tourists', 'club-class intellectuals' et al are completely wrong. This century is indeed about 'national interest' and it alone but in getting as big a pie of the 'international interest' namely international trade, influence etc. Even North Korea knows that well.

And the questions raised by the Late Colonel are what we have also been asking. I am sure that his soul will not rest in peace until his questions are answered, not in words but in action. Let us ensure that his soul does not have to wait for too long. We have already wasted 67 years and if we have to forge ahead in our goals, we have to first get rid of this terrorist cesspool abomination, swachh Indian subcontinent

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Postby shiv » 20 Dec 2014 09:02

A_Gupta wrote:I came here to post this, however, Abhijit Bhattacharya's take on WKKs, in the Telegraph.
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1141220/j ... y_4283.jsp
Begins thusly:

Late Sankalp had put across some very simple and matter-of-fact questions, the answers to which I could perhaps dare suggest, but never pass on, to the Indian establishment headed by the popularly and jocularly termed "Delhi gang". This is a minority Indian elite group, constituting the "exclusive club members of aman ki asha" - a few establishment hand-picked peaceniks with deep-rooted Indo-Pakistan business interests (even at the cost of the unity and integrity of the Indian nation); the "legendary Lahore lovers" (for whom Lahore is the mid-point of the universe); the "guided" (should one say misguided?) tourists who swear by the "charm offensive" hosts serving biryani, gosht and kebabs of "exotic Lahori bazaars"; a few retired diplomats, handful of ex-generals and "club class" intellectuals - openly meeting Hafiz Saeed, the alleged mastermind of the Mumbai 26/11 attacks (and following it up with a press conference declaring how "fruitful" the meeting has been). All of them have the best of intentions, no doubt. But nobody has the wherewithals to implement the "lofty theory into lovely practice". Why? Because, for these well-intentioned Indians, 21st century is the era of "international interest", in which "national interest" at best comes as a footnote.

A few sample questions posed by the late soldier re-surfaces and crosses one's mind. "Sir, why do we not understand and analyse the psyche of the Pakistanis? Why is our establishment so namby-pamby and shy of planning and executing suitable counter-covert operations to nip the enemy in the bud? Why are we destroying the morale of our forces by tying their hands behind their back when Pakistani elements have penetrated deep into our soil? Why is our own government so pro-Pakistan when the whole world knows and avoids the terrorist State of Pakistan and the nationals thereof as potential terrorists? Are our leaders serving India or the enemy Pakistan?" There were some more penetrating analysis by the youngster which one rarely hears even from civil service officers dealing with the subject from the high tables of diplomacy in air-conditioned rooms. It transpired that the young officer had experienced bullet injuries and long hospitalization and that he did not mind facing the enemy in the battlefield once again.


The same sentiment has been expressed from a slightly different perspective in Kaal Chiron's blog
http://kalchiron.blogspot.in/2013/09/ma ... nched.html
The anti-delhi sentiment has always been popular in MH (Maharashtra)-public imagination. This is connected to Maratha-Mughal antagonism. Delhi, subconsciously, symbolizes enemy seat which rightfully belongs to Marathas. The terms like "Dillishwara" or "Dilli-pati" means Sultanate and to be precise Aurangzeb.

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Postby chetak » 20 Dec 2014 09:38

Breaking TV news says that the pakis have killed Militant leader and Head of Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) Mullah Fazlullah killed in Afghanistan today in a fresh air strike by PAF

The pakis have struck in Afghanistan, violating all international norms.

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Postby Pratyush » 20 Dec 2014 09:59

Since the. Pakistanis have killed TTP head in Afghanistan. What's stopping us to do it to the. Pigs'.

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Postby Shreeman » 20 Dec 2014 10:04

^^^ They have killed both mullah FM and fazalullah a few times before. Let the bad taliban choose a new leader. until then, it is just rumors.

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Postby Pratyush » 20 Dec 2014 10:44

Oh............ like the Al Quida no 3 search.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby deejay » 20 Dec 2014 10:47

shiv wrote:...
My comment may not get published:

Anupam Kher. You mention pogrom in "Lidice, Dachau, the purges of Stalin, the Cultural Revolution of Mao, the killing fields of Cambodia". What made you forget Bangladesh - where massacres started on 25th March 1971 and continued until Deecember 1971? Were you feeling alive and fresh during those 9 deadly months?

May I point out that Pakistanis have been in the same sort of denial and avoidance of the truth that you display in this cleverly worded article, written to please, rather than to be truthful.


Well, your comment has been published. Just Checked.

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Postby Prem » 20 Dec 2014 11:03

sanjaykumar wrote:Why does the fella have so much India fixation? The reason why India is concerned about terrorism is simple: Pakistan uses terrorism against India to achieve a political end. And whatever :( they do about Peshawar, India suffered the Mumbai attacks before that. And train bombings and stock exchange bombing in the 90s. All properly traced to personalities who are cooling their heels in Pakistan. People can write columns about how Pakistan has only the best of interests towards India, but all of that is hogwash given that the perpetrators are being sheltered and even encouraged in Pakistan.There are poor Muslims in India, never mind that there are starving Muslims in Pakistan, the Hindu injustice remains. A society that is demonstrably retro-evolving, devolving, that has no hope for a better future, of equality of opportunity, of freedom from army monopolisation of a preindustrial economy is aghast at what it sees over the border. They see themselves sans Islam and that is deeply subversive to their god's order. It calls into question the whole narrative, the one that began in Araby.


U see, with all the injustice and troubles Muslim endure in poor India, Paki never demand that Muslims be moved to pakistan from India . They have and give full 720001 excuses for not to do so. Suddenly they pretend to be not Islamic but normal nation .

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Postby member_19648 » 20 Dec 2014 11:12

A_Gupta wrote:Shiv, maybe Anupam Kher didn't want to say Bangladesh 1971 was "But these were political movements or results of conflict.".

Anyway, deadly comment :)

I came here to post this, however, Abhijit Bhattacharya's take on WKKs, in the Telegraph.
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1141220/j ... y_4283.jsp
Begins thusly:

Wonderful article, this should be archived.

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Postby ritesh » 20 Dec 2014 11:27

Kashi wrote:
Jhujar wrote:Our Indian headache
Fanney Khan Bhopali, Khyal Pullavi


This Paki takes the "Ulta chor kotwaal ko daante" to a whole new level.


From the farticle...
the appearance of Hafiz Saeed on national television, some rude comments about India and Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi’s release on bail, were to prove godsend for India’s Pakistan bashing industry. Now it was as if the innocent little angels were not butchered in Peshawar but in India. Since then, the Indian media is acting as if an attack on it is imminent. Sorry to disappoint the drama queens there, but nothing of the sort is to happen. Not that anyone cares what their rabid media thinks but because Islamabad had promised to some of its closest allies that it will not let anything of the sort happen in the aftermath of Mumbai and since then, has walked the talk.

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Postby arun » 20 Dec 2014 12:13

Amber G. wrote:^^^ Speaking of CERN and Pakistan... Pakistan is the only country in the world, whose decorated scientist (Tamgha-e-Imtiaz - no less) came to be known as plagiarist --- of copying word by word from a booklet given to aam abdul visitors who visit CERN..No I am not making that up... :rotfl:

Link:http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic.php?p=844389#p844389
(News articles are few years old but Pakis are still fairly well know in CERN .)
Added later: google gives: http://app.hec.gov.pk/Press_Releases/2007/April/5thApril.htm

The summary is in one blog... I am mildly amused that it is called: "tspnews.blogspot.com
Plagiarism could affect Pak-Swiss research ties



Anujan wrote:^^
Photochor Khan also copied word for word some random university website, published an article and later claimed he was making it easier for people to find that information :mrgreen:

http://www.3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdail ... -bomb.html


Do not forget Dr. Maleeha Lodhi who was once the Islamic Republic of Pakistan's Ambassador to the US. There were allegations that her “doctoral dissertation” “extensively plagiarized” work of one Dr. Philips Edwards Jones:

Saturday, November 14, 2009Shaheen Sehbai VS Dr. Maleeha Lodhi & Jang Group of Newspapers

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Postby SSridhar » 20 Dec 2014 12:51

Pakistan pledges total annihilation of terrorists at UN - DT

What about UNSC's resolution on terrorist Hafeez Saeed and his JuD?

A senior Pakistani diplomat has pledged the total annihilation of terrorism from Pakistan as he denounced the “heinous and barbaric” attack on the Army Public School in Peshawar, killing over 100 children.

“The terrorist attacked our children and hit our heart now we will go for their jugular”, Ambassador Sahebzada Ahmed Khan told the United Nations Security Council on Friday. “Let me convey this message today that we will defeat terrorism,” he declared, while speaking in a debate on “Terrorism and Cross-Border Crime.” “Pakistan will prevail, no matter what, and our mourning will only morph into a stronger resolve to fight back, even harder,” the Pakistani envoy told delegates from around the world.

Turning to the subject of the debate, the Pakistani envoy said that there was a difference between cross-border crime and cross-border organised crime. Nevertheless, recognising that terrorists could take advantage of a lack of border controls, he said that he fully subscribed to the need for border control mechanisms. States bore the primary responsibility for taking effective measures against terrorism, he said. Bilateral, regional, and international cooperation, including exchange of information, was crucial. Strategies to counter transnational organised crimes needed to be tailored to their peculiar regional contexts. It was also vital to build the capacities of the states facing those challenges.

He reaffirmed Pakistan’s commitment to counter terrorism in all its forms and manifestations. “We will continue to cooperate and coordinate with the international community in addressing the challenges emanating from factors that complicate our fight against this scourge, including trans-national organised crimes. “We believe that international measures taken in this regard must respect national sovereignty and territorial integrity of States, and should aim to avoid duplication of work undertaken by various UN agencies and organizations,” he said. At the same time, he said that all international efforts should respect national sovereignty and territorial integrity of the states.


The bolded portions are Pakistan's escape routes when it comes to dealing with India-centric terrorists.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby JE Menon » 20 Dec 2014 13:12

Pakistan has received a list from India. It needs to fulfill its obligations.

Otherwise such events as that which occurred in ps will recur

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Postby member_23252 » 20 Dec 2014 13:19

It wasn’t the final atrocity
http://www.dawn.com/news/1151930

It was even worse earlier. In 2009, as the Taliban took over Swat, on Hamid Mir’s Capital Talk he claimed that the Swat Taliban were fighting a war of liberation against the Americans. When I asked why they were fighting in Pakistan and killing our policemen and soldiers, he accused me of being an American agent and then, later, attempted to physically attack me. Readers can google this video.

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Postby member_23252 » 20 Dec 2014 13:20

10 questions Pakistan Army fans can’t answer
http://blog.ale.com.pk/?p=2572

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Postby SSridhar » 20 Dec 2014 13:55

Anti-Taliban fight ‘un-Islamic’, says Lal Masjid's Abdul Aziz
The head of a hardline Islamabad mosque on Friday called an army offensive against the Taliban “un-Islamic” and said the militants’ massacre of 133 children was in retaliation for air strikes against them.

The Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) claimed the assault as revenge for an ongoing military offensive against its strongholds in the tribal northwest.

Maulana Abdul Aziz told worshippers at the Red Mosque he “shared the grief” of the victims’ families but said the TTP’s response was understandable.

“O rulers, O people in power, if you will commit such acts, there will be a reaction,” he said.

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Postby SSridhar » 20 Dec 2014 13:59

chetak wrote:Breaking TV news says that the pakis have killed Militant leader and Head of Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) Mullah Fazlullah killed in Afghanistan today in a fresh air strike by PAF

The pakis have struck in Afghanistan, violating all international norms.

It's not air strike by PAF. It must be a joint US-TSPA operation using the national bird of Pakistan.

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Postby Shreeman » 20 Dec 2014 14:17

SSridhar wrote:
chetak wrote:Breaking TV news says that the pakis have killed Militant leader and Head of Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) Mullah Fazlullah killed in Afghanistan today in a fresh air strike by PAF

The pakis have struck in Afghanistan, violating all international norms.

It's not air strike by PAF. It must be a joint US-TSPA operation using the national bird of Pakistan.


And here I was coingratulating the sherrif and hoping he will take his F16s into afghanistan and wipe away the opium fields that power the bad taliban, keeping only the good opium flowing.

It wounds me so, cant we all just get along (with the F16 program, I mean)?

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Postby deejay » 20 Dec 2014 15:40

Wokay, then the dynamics between the Terrorist (ghazi) and the 'deep' State; the Jihadi and the Jihadi -in-Uniform (J-in-U); the Mullah and the Military, the blackish Green and the Green is on cross roads and how will it move from here provides a good predictive opportunity. If the TSPA strikes the Jihadis (Talib or otherwise), I think the Jihadis have a better chance of wresting control. We can all get in our little theories but here is why the Terrorist or the Jihadi or the Mullah or the blackish Green have the upper hand (IMVVVHO).

>The Jihadi's have better grass root reach than the 'deep' State.
>The hard sell of 'pure' Isalm for 67 years has caused many in the 'deep' State to identify with the Jihadi.
>Not many institutions exist outside of Islamic control. Those that exist do not hold any actual control on the society or the State. The 'deep' State ensured this.
>"deep' State has penetrated the Jihadis. But the 'penetrators' have become Jihadis and hence now penetrate the 'deep' State.
>There are many who lead the Jihadis but the J-in-U has one and his influence beyond the Uniform is zero when taking on Islam.
>The Paki being born and raised in sh%t prefers sh%t and will work hard to be in sh%t and hence will side with those who promise more sh%t.
>The 'deep' state has only pakjab to bank (and even here only partially); all other states have significant dissenters.

P.S. The 'deep' state and its synonyms are for ISI and the Army only. I say true RAA (SBUT)* canspiracy will be to get the Jihadi and J-in-U into a Bigfight and walk the talk being delivered these days.

* Speed Be Upon Them

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Postby arun » 20 Dec 2014 17:00

This talk of “new depravity” by this Pakistani origin Motorham is nothing more than providing a burqua for the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to hide the atrocities committed. A surfeit of depravity has been well evident following the genocide unleashed in 1971 by the Punjabi dominated Military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan in the former East Pakistan, present day Bangladesh.

Pakistan is close to my heart – but Taliban school attack shows there’s a new depravity here

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby surinder » 20 Dec 2014 19:02

I posted on the Kher article in Yawn too:

I feel sad for the deaths of the children. In fact, when the 36 Sikhs were killed in Chattisinghpura I felt sad too. The Taliban attack on countless cities in Afghanistan (Kabul, Jalalabad, Mazar) and the pogrom of minorities like Hazaras was also a sad event. Tears have indeed dried up since we cried for those killed by air strikes on Pakistani Soil by an external force with the active collaboration of the Pakistan Army. The very army that was supposed to protect Pakistan, provided targets, support, airport, and supply to an external country to bomb the Pashtuns. The Lakhs of people killed in Afghanistan by war could not have been killed without the supplies and active collaboration by this very Army.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby UlanBatori » 20 Dec 2014 20:03

Just out of curio-City:
How many times has Mullah Fazlullah Maulanullah been killed in US-paid air raids so far? 5? 10? Reminds of the 101 Lives of Al Qaeda Number 3, circa 2003-2008.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Ambar » 20 Dec 2014 20:17

Had the peshawar incident occurred in some poor hazara neighborhood in Balochistan, no one would have batted their eyelids. Had this been some hapless ahmadis or shias blown to smithereens in their places of worship, there would be no greater reaction than the obligatory "Terrorists are evil and they will be defeated" statements from the talking heads of TSPA and their politicians. But this was different. This happened to the children of Pakistani elite in an army run institute. For the first time the chickens have gone to their masters den to roost. What baffles me is not the reaction in pakistan which is understandable for the above reasons, but the reaction in India. From the usual anti-national bigot Mahesh Butt to mostly sensible Anupam Kher ( married to BJP MP Kirron Kher) are tripping over one another to do rudali. Where were these people when Mumbai train blasts,zaveri bazar blasts,26/11 or countless other blasts in other Indian cities ? Isn't that terrorism ? Weren't children killed in those acts of violence too ? Where was their anguish and anger then ? The so called secular political parties,leftist NGOs and bollywood are the three pillars of anti-nationals in India. We will never be safe nor sane as long as these 3 exists in their current form.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Ambar » 20 Dec 2014 20:26

Speaking of TTP going after politicians next, any news on what happened to Gilani's son ? And Salman Taseer's son ?

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby deejay » 20 Dec 2014 20:34

Okay, here is a good read (fiction) from Dawn. Good satire.:

http://www.dawn.com/news/1152078

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby A_Gupta » 20 Dec 2014 20:41

Ambar wrote:Speaking of TTP going after politicians next, any news on what happened to Gilani's son ? And Salman Taseer's son ?


I think Salman Taseer's son was released some time ago.
PS: if this is to be believed: http://pakobserver.net/201302/17/detail ... ?id=196268

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby KLNMurthy » 20 Dec 2014 21:28

Ambar wrote:Had the peshawar incident occurred in some poor hazara neighborhood in Balochistan, no one would have batted their eyelids. Had this been some hapless ahmadis or shias blown to smithereens in their places of worship, there would be no greater reaction than the obligatory "Terrorists are evil and they will be defeated" statements from the talking heads of TSPA and their politicians. But this was different. This happened to the children of Pakistani elite in an army run institute. For the first time the chickens have gone to their masters den to roost. What baffles me is not the reaction in pakistan which is understandable for the above reasons, but the reaction in India. From the usual anti-national bigot Mahesh Butt to mostly sensible Anupam Kher ( married to BJP MP Kirron Kher) are tripping over one another to do rudali. Where were these people when Mumbai train blasts,zaveri bazar blasts,26/11 or countless other blasts in other Indian cities ? Isn't that terrorism ? Weren't children killed in those acts of violence too ? Where was their anguish and anger then ? The so called secular political parties,leftist NGOs and bollywood are the three pillars of anti-nationals in India. We will never be safe nor sane as long as these 3 exists in their current form.

Great words, worth quoting over and over.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Paul » 20 Dec 2014 21:48

A liberal Pakistani hates only Hindus, a moderate also hates Ahmidyas, a conservative also hates Shia, Fanatic hates anyone saner than him

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby vishvak » 20 Dec 2014 21:59

No doubt the country is already pure, but pure in hatred. Level of hatred depends on either Kuffr - the worst hated - or shades of green - less hatred as per darker shades of green.

Anything that does not follow the rule automatically begins rounds of tear-jerking & violence -till the rule becomes the norm again.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Supratik » 20 Dec 2014 22:10

If the possibility of army action intensifies in Pashtun lands what is the probability of this turning into a Pashtun-Punjabi civil war notwithstanding sarkari Pashtuns like Imran Khan? Can this lead to a split in the army? This is what happened to Yugoslavia. I think the Pashtuns unlike the Baloch have the numbers to break free forming a Pashtun sharia state like ISIS.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby pankajs » 20 Dec 2014 22:12

Who is bombing the Pashtun? Sarkari Pashtun or Pakjabis?

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Supratik » 20 Dec 2014 22:14

Currently sarkari Pashtuns and Pakjabis are cooperating. But for how long?

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Paul » 20 Dec 2014 22:16

Pakhtun vs Pakjabi civil war is wishful thinking. Will not happen anytime in the near future.


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