Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec 2014

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Tuvaluan » 11 Jan 2015 02:49

so the GMFUS report on Pakistan is causing some khujli. well done.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/818857/flawed-thinking-about-pakistan/

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby sudhan » 11 Jan 2015 03:03

SSridhar wrote:
venug wrote:Pakistan is largest source of World terror, what a monster Jinnah has created.

Excellent. Who is he that talks?


The one and onlee Tarek Fatah..
Full time occupation: Rectally probing pawkis with a soldering iron
Part time occupation: jouro, speaker, author etc..

I don't agree with him all the time though..

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Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec 2014

Postby Peregrine » 11 Jan 2015 04:19

Bus, tanker collision in Karachi leaves 50 people dead
KARACHI: A collision between an tanker and a bus early on Sunday morning on the outskirts of Karachi left at least 50 people dead, including women and children

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby komal » 11 Jan 2015 04:38

Peregrine wrote:Bus, tanker collision in Karachi leaves 50 people dead
KARACHI: A collision between an tanker and a bus early on Sunday morning on the outskirts of Karachi left at least 50 people dead, including women and children

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Somewhat disturbing to see a 'cheers' icon after '50 people dead, including women and children'

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Kashi » 11 Jan 2015 05:07

sanjaykumar wrote:The more engaging friends, after sharing all their knowledge about the war on terrorism, would ask my opinion as an ‘expert’. To simply avoid all these questions, many times I would say I was from India.

It was usually followed by the question, “What part of India are you from?” I responded, “North Punjab!” I was not lying.


http://www.dawn.com/news/1139650

Sigh....shameless. Fukhar se kaho hum hain Pakistani.


This part does not appear in the farticle, has it been removed since?


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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Amber G. » 11 Jan 2015 07:10

many times I [a person from Pakistan ] would say I was from India.


BTW, it is not a recent phenomena .. my brothers who first came to Europe/US in 50's wrote to us that, even in a ship (in those days students traveled via ships - only in mid 60's planes became the preferred choice to travel) from Mumbai on its way to Europe via Karachi ..many Pakistani's, for some reason, will often call themselves "from India" ....

The trend, many will tell you, has been this way in 60's, 70's, 80's etc.. in US and countries like France.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Anujan » 11 Jan 2015 08:32

Jhujar wrote:http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=869_1420833044

watch at .44 for Baki Beerather Fahadullah moment , boarding the train to Hoorland Main.


Was what the French police did legal? He might have been a smuggler and not a real terrorist. Looked like he was surrendering too!! Were they following SOP ? why weren't anybody from the local thaana present along with district magistrate? Did they stick a revenue stamp in the paper authorizing the operation ? Why 40-50 heavily armed men to catch one guy ?

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby A_Gupta » 11 Jan 2015 08:48

Dunno whether true or not, but I like.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 838765.cms

Pakistan blames India as US holds back aid to Islamabad

WASHINGTON: Pakistan is blaming India for the Obama administration holding back aid to Islamabad, amid calls in the US for a re-evaluation of Washington's munificent policy towards a country that continues to foster terrorists.

A donor conference in Islamabad on Friday aimed at extracting $380 million from the world community to rehabilitate Pakistan's internally displaced people (IDP) effectively collapsed after the US reportedly didn't come through with its commitment to announce $250 million in aid. The $250 million was part of the $532 million under the Kerry-Lugar assistance package that the US ambassador to Pakistan Richard Olson had reportedly assured the Pakistani finance minister the US would disburse.

''In recent days, however, the United States has come under sustained diplomatic pressure from India over its financial assistance to Pakistan. New Delhi wants the US to stop all aid to Pakistan until terrorists it accuses of having masterminded attacks on Indian soil are caught and punished,'' the Express Tribune newspaper reported on the weekend even as US officials in Washington said the Obama administration had not notified Congress for any aid to Pakistan but ''obviously there'll be additional funding.''


Of course, there is a reality check.
The reading in Indian quarters from that remark by a state department official is that the US is merely holding back aid for tactical reasons till secretary of state John Kerry completes his visit to India for the Vibrant Gujarat summit on the sidelines of the Pravasi Bharat event, while also setting the stage for President Barack Obama's visit to India later this month. Kerry is expected to go to Pakistan after his India visit although that has not been officially confirmed because of security reasons.


But TOI goes on the offensive again:
Typical of their sense of entitlement even while begging for aid, Pakistani finance ministry officials have contested the US claim that Washington had provided approximately $ 100 million for IDPs, saying that was the amount pledged in the past for wheat procurement and processing.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby member_28803 » 11 Jan 2015 08:55

Anujan wrote:
Jhujar wrote:http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=869_1420833044

watch at .44 for Baki Beerather Fahadullah moment , boarding the train to Hoorland Main.


Was what the French police did legal? He might have been a smuggler and not a real terrorist. Looked like he was surrendering too!! Were they following SOP ? why weren't anybody from the local thaana present along with district magistrate? Did they stick a revenue stamp in the paper authorizing the operation ? Why 40-50 heavily armed men to catch one guy ?


:lol: :rotfl:

Add to that:

Was there a national consensus before the peace-fool was encountered? Why wasn't the feelings of minority community considered before partaking such a course? Could he have been encouraged to give up his weapons through dialogue over some chai biscuit?

What happened to secularism? what about the hooman rights of the peace-fool? :(( :(( :(( :((

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Anujan » 11 Jan 2015 09:13

The Kerry-Lugar money requires authorization that Pakistan has been acting against terrorists. Pakistan gets the money anyway because they get a waiver. Now new York times as usual have done patronizing misrepresentation. They claim India is upset (more on this) that US is giving Pakistan money. This is false. The outrage was because of Suhasini Haiders article that Pakistan either got an authorization that they acted against terror or got a waiver for acting against terrorists which are preconditions for the money to be disbursed. The outrage was not for the disbursement for the money per se.


Even if India is outraged for the money part; we have a right to be. A comparable scenario would be India giving arms and money to Taliban government after certifying that they were acting against Al Qaeda and unresolved issue of stationing US troops in the middle East should be solved for US -- Al Qaeda peace.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby CRamS » 11 Jan 2015 10:01

AnujanJi, that daal won't cook :-). Amrika is a super power onlee. So when pointed to hypocrisies and double standards, they will lob a convoluted spin back saying why super power US is right in doing what it is doing.

I was listening to a program on NPR the other day on cyber security and cyber threats. And all the pompous dorks on the show were citing all kinds of "international law" BS to claim the illegality of China and Russia hacking US systems. My goodness, not one guy had the forthrightness to say whats good for the goose is not good for the gander :-). I was laughing by butt off at the sheer insularity and self righteousness of the so called debate. Only a supremely self-confident super power can do that without an iota of guilt.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby CRamS » 11 Jan 2015 10:03

A_GuptaJi, I hope it is true, and India did indeed accomplish that.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby shravan » 11 Jan 2015 10:12

Two doctors gunned down in Karachi

http://tribune.com.pk/story/819841/retu ... n-karachi/

ARACHI: Target killing returned to the city with a vengeance on Saturday night as two doctors and a shopkeeper were shot dead in a span of 30 minutes in the city.
Dr Ali Akbar was killed after unidentified armed men stormed his clinic in Paposh Nagar and shot him.
Just 10 minutes later, Dr Yawar Hussain was killed in his Nazimabad clinic.
Initially, police suspected that the same killers were apparently behind both incidents since the two doctors were located in the same vicinity and were killed with a difference of 10 minutes.
They added that Dr Akbar was killed first, and then Dr Hussain was targeted.
Meanwhile, SHO Paposh Nagar Nawaz Gondal was suspended over the incident.
There was some confusion over the motive of the attack with police claiming that Dr Akbar belonged to the Sunni sect, while the Majlis-e-Wahdatul Muslimeen claiming both the doctors belonged to the Shia sect, and that they murders were sectarian.
Five minutes after the two target killings, a shopkeeper was killed in Gulberg by armed motorcyclists.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby shiv » 11 Jan 2015 10:32

CRamS wrote:. I was laughing by butt off at the sheer insularity and self righteousness of the so called debate. Only a supremely self-confident super power can do that without an iota of guilt.

Pakistanis do that regularly - that is why they can stand up to the US and have their way with the confident superpower.

Of course the alternative explanation is that you don' t need to be a superpower to act confident. Only one vowel separates chutzpah from chootzpah.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Prem » 11 Jan 2015 10:35

Anujan wrote:
Jhujar wrote:http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=869_1420833044

watch at .44 for Baki Beerather Fahadullah moment , boarding the train to Hoorland MainWas what the French police did legal? He might have been a smuggler and not a real terrorist. Looked like he was surrendering too!! Were they following SOP ? why weren't anybody from the local thaana present along with district magistrate? Did they stick a revenue stamp in the paper authorizing the operation ? Why 40-50 heavily armed men to catch one guy ?


The whole thing look like fake encounter like Batla House. Did Madam & Madamzadeh cry that night watching Paris police used excessive force on Minority man just doing his religious duty of murder . maim and mayhem.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby CRamS » 11 Jan 2015 10:37

DocJi, indeed they do. TSP has a lot of sympathizers in US when they say just as US supported the mujaheddin as "freedom fighters" to fight the Russians in Afghanistan, so also TSP's support to pigLeTs in Kashmir is not terrorism but struggle for "freedom". Believe it nor not, Uneven once brazenly said so on Undy.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby deejay » 11 Jan 2015 10:44

Tuvaluan wrote:so the GMFUS report on Pakistan is causing some khujli. well done.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/818857/flawed-thinking-about-pakistan/


I was looking at the comments section and one AVMPolpot (Interesting name) had this to say:

” Flawed thinking about Pakistan”
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Corrected Title : Thinking about Flawed Pakistan


There was a commenter with the name Beenish :-o

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby shravan » 11 Jan 2015 10:50

Past 24 hours
#Rawalpindi 9 Shias killed
#Peshawar 1 Shia Doctor killed
#Karachi 4 including 2 Doctors killed
Total14 martyred
#ShiaGenocide

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Kashi » 11 Jan 2015 11:02

shiv wrote:Pakistanis do that regularly - that is why they can stand up to the US and have their way with the confident superpower.


North Koreans even more so and not just with US, but China, Japan and South Korea (in no particular order). As per CRamS logic, North Korea IS the ultimate super power. :rotfl:

shiv wrote:Of course the alternative explanation is that you don' t need to be a superpower to act confident. Only one vowel separates chutzpah from chootzpah.


That's the only logical explanation. After all haven't we all heard that "Empty vessels make most noise" or in Hindi "Thotha chana baaje ghana".

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Prem » 11 Jan 2015 11:16

shravan wrote:Past 24 hours
#Rawalpindi 9 Shias killed
#Peshawar 1 Shia Doctor killed
#Karachi 4 including 2 Doctors killed
Total14 martyred
#ShiaGenocide


Nothing, This is just work initiation on New Year Resolution By Bakistani Beeple.
The year 2015 is dedicated by them to Shia's slicing only.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Prem » 11 Jan 2015 11:27

Shireen Mazari slams Rashid over NA-122 audit
SLAMABAD: Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) spokeswoman, Shireen Mazari on Saturday said that recounting was not conducted in the National Assembly constituency NA-122 and it was just a verification of the votes.According to a statement issued here, Shireen Mazari claimed that thirty thousand bogus votes were found from NA-122, saying forms 15 and 16 were nowhere to be found in more than 100 polling stations.She said several contradictory ballot results of some of the polling stations were found in the electoral record. Mazari added that Federal Information Minister, Pervez Rashid was deliberately creating confusion.She asked if the government was insistent that the elections were fair then why is it reluctant to form a judicial commission.


Klick Hare For Photo And Win The Award of Bad Khawab Neutralising Sharab & Shabab

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby arun » 11 Jan 2015 11:56

shravan wrote:Past 24 hours
#Rawalpindi 9 Shias killed
#Peshawar 1 Shia Doctor killed
#Karachi 4 including 2 Doctors killed
Total14 martyred
#ShiaGenocide


X Posted from the “Oppression of Minorities In Pakistan” thread.

Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden religion based violence sees Doctors / Physicians of minority Shia Mohammadden sect being killed in multiple attacks across the Islamic Republic of Pakistan by their co-religionists.

Shia sectarian organistaion Majlis-e-Wahdatul Muslimeen aka MWM says that two Shia Doctors / Physicians were gunned down in Karachi in a sectarian attack:

Return of target killing: Two doctors gunned down in Karachi

Karachi attacks was followed by one more Intra-Mohammadden sectarian attack in Peshawar resulting in one Doctor / Physician being killed:

Physician shot dead in Peshawar

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby shravan » 11 Jan 2015 12:22

Ary TV

Karachi:
Aaj Ki Killing's :rotfl:
Baldia 1
Nazimabad 2
F.B.Area 1
<Encounter>
Lyari 1
<Body Found>
Baldia 3
Total>8
Zakhmi>38

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby SSridhar » 11 Jan 2015 12:26

shiv wrote:Only one vowel separates chutzpah from chootzpah.

Superb. :D

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Mahendra » 11 Jan 2015 13:44

komal wrote:

Somewhat disturbing to see a 'cheers' icon after '50 people dead, including women and children'



Just curious... is it okay if the dead included men only?

The 50 met their 72 as Allah did not protect them, Allah knows best, the Pakistanis should celebrate his decisions

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Rajagopal » 11 Jan 2015 13:46

Javed and Habib are Pakistani beggars. They beg in different areas of London .
Habib begs just as long as Javed but only collects £2 to £3 every day.
Javed brings home a suitcase FULL of £10 notes, drives a Mercedes, lives in a mortgage-free house and has a lot of money to spend..
Habib says to Javed 'I work just as long and hard as you do but how do you bring home a suitcase full of £10 notes every day?'
Javed says, 'Look at your sign, what does it say'?
Habib's sign reads 'I have no work, a wife and 6 kids to support'.
Javed says 'No wonder you only get £2- £3
Habib says... 'So what does your sign say'?
Javed shows Habib his sign...
It reads:
'I only need another £10 to move back to Pakistan'.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Sudip » 11 Jan 2015 14:02

New Courts Offer Pakistan’s Generals the Power They Used to Seize: NYT

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif looked glum and ill at ease, while the man beside him, Gen. Raheel Sharif, the army chief, lectured confidently.

A constitutional amendment passed by Parliament on Tuesday empowered military courts to try suspected Islamist militants, opening the way for a rapid but rough-hewed judicial process that could move defendants from arrest to execution in a matter of weeks.

Although the precise regulations of the new courts have yet to be made public, the International Commission of Jurists has warned that military justice in Pakistan falls far short of international standards.

It has imprisoned hundreds of suspected militants in secret jails across the country where torture and extrajudicial executions are common, according to rights groups. Similarly harsh tactics have long been the hallmark of the army’s crackdown on separatists in Baluchistan Province.

Maulana Fazlullah, said in a video statement last week that cast the Peshawar massacre as a reaction to army abuse of Taliban detainees. “You have taken our prisoners from jails and killed them in a cowardly fashion.”

There are also worries that military judges will apply the law selectively, continuing a pattern of inaction against Islamist groups that share the military’s strategic goals, like Lashkar-e-Taiba and other groups fighting in Indian-administered Kashmir.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby deejay » 11 Jan 2015 14:48

Rajagopal wrote:
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'I only need another £10 to move back to Pakistan'.


:rotfl: That was fun.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Ashokk » 11 Jan 2015 15:17

Bus-oil tanker collision kills 57 in Pakistan
KARACHI: At least 57 people including women and children have been killed after their bus crashed into an oil tanker, igniting a fierce blaze in southern Pakistan early Sunday, officials said.
"We have received more than 57 dead bodies but the death toll may rise as most of them are completely burnt and stuck to each other," doctor Semi Jamali at Karachi's Jinnah hospital told AFP.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Anujan » 11 Jan 2015 17:22

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home ... 839338.cms

Slightly OT since it is about the Paris attacks, but still relevant:

A particularly egregious example of the latter sort of chorister is Hari Kunzru, an Anglo-Kashmiri novelist. Writing in The Guardian the day after the murderous assault on the offices of the French magazine Charlie Hebdo, Kunzru delivered a pompous, maundering meditation on "self-dramatizing young men who prefer the abstraction of death to living a meaningful life"—a preening euphemism for terrorists. Kunzru declares that he wants "to hear nothing about barbarism," or "the caricature of the jihadi as a medieval throwback," and states, instead, that "serious repression by the French state will complete the circuit of the Charlie Hebdo attack." The Nigerian-American Teju Cole, writing in the New Yorker, strikes a similar chord: "France is in sorrow today, and will be for many weeks to come. We mourn with France. We ought to. But it is also true that violence from 'our' side continues unabated." The moral equivalence between the West and Islamist jihadis is presented to the reader as an unquestionable truth. There is something deeply corroded and flaccid about the Left now. It is clapped out, morally. It cannot be the custodian of Western civilization any longer.


The same is true for our intellectuals like MSA who start with "But what about.....". Some even mourned for Kasab, called his hanging as state-sanctioned murder*. Some characterized him as a poor mislead youth.

The West faces a disconcerting crisis. How are cities like Paris and London and Brussels, Amsterdam and Berlin and Copenhagen, to protect themselves from attacks from within, carried out by religiously inflamed "sleepers" whose ranks now include battle-hardened jihadists who have been to Iraq or Syria and returned to Europe with the skills and the hunger for mayhem? The political politesse of these societies has disabled their own defenses. Bien-pensant liberals sniff, still, at harsh pre-emptive measures— some of which are, or will be, uglier than the West's business-as-usual— and warn instead of a "backlash" against Muslims.

But fears of such a backlash need not be an alibi for paralysis, and the longer it takes for the West to find ways to combat the Islamist cancer in its cities, the harder it will be for the vast majority of law-abiding Muslims who live in the West to distance themselves from the poison of a rabid few.


Applies to us as well.

*It bears repeating that murder at a large scale is punishable by death. It is easy to see why such a law exists. This law has been written, published for a long time. Kasab was given due representation, right to appeal and a right to appeal that if denied. He was treated well and humanely in custody. It was proven beyond doubt that he indulged in murder at a massive scale. Then what is this state-sponsored murder nonsense? There is a reason I have written up such an obvious thing in great detail. Usually debates are one sided. The idiots, keep repeating their nonsense "Kasab's hanging is state-sponsored murder" and the smart ones think that the counter argument is so obvious that it doesnt merit stating it. Soon what happens is that the thing that is repeated often becomes the truth and widely accepted belief.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby jrjrao » 11 Jan 2015 18:19

From AP:

Video: Ex-Pakistan Taliban members join IS group, behead man (a TSP soldier)
ISLAMABAD (AP) — An online video released Saturday purports to show former militants of the Pakistani Taliban pledging allegiance to the Islamic State group and beheading a man they identify as a Pakistani soldier.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Comer » 11 Jan 2015 18:59

Anujan wrote:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/stoi/deep-focus/Why-Paris-is-even-more-shocking-than-Peshawar/articleshow/45839338.cms
*snip*
Applies to us as well.
*snip*

I am hoping the Varadarajan household has serious dinner table debates over this issue and this is not just a prescription for the West.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby pankajs » 11 Jan 2015 19:39

The Future of U.S.-Pakistani Relations: A Troubled Foreign Policy Relationship - Published on Jan 6, 2015

Interesting question @ 1:15:30 and note the answers of the panelist.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby CRamS » 11 Jan 2015 19:41

Kashi wrote:North Koreans even more so and not just with US, but China, Japan and South Korea (in no particular order). As per CRamS logic, North Korea IS the ultimate super power



KashiJi You are afflicted with a form of DDMitis by stretching the logic too far. US position to the world, especially turd world is do what I say, not what I do. Do you dispute that? And AnujanJi gave the example of US double-speak (and in the case of US, it is chutzpah, not chootzpah :-)) closer to home in the manner in which it funds Paki terrorists, and would come down hammer and tongs on India should it do the same as he suggested.

Of course, NK and TSP also indulging in double speak is chootzpah, so I don't see any flawed logic.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby johneeG » 11 Jan 2015 19:58

For the west, the solution to jihad is quite simple:
stop funding and arming the jihadis directly or indirectly.
And seriously curb down on financial backers and arms suppliers of the terror groups.

Merely, stopping the funds to Pakistan Army might do many wonders to stopping jihad in many areas.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby A_Gupta » 11 Jan 2015 20:55

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 841881.cms

NEW DELHI: The Enforcement Directorate (ED) has issued summons to Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) in connection with alleged violation of forex laws in purchase of local properties by the neighbouring country's flag-carrier here.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby CRamS » 11 Jan 2015 21:59

pankajs wrote:The Future of U.S.-Pakistani Relations: A Troubled Foreign Policy Relationship - Published on Jan 6, 2015

Interesting question @ 1:15:30 and note the answers of the panelist.


pankajsJi, that Aparna and Lisa were staid and useless IMO. That WeinBum dude spilt the beans on using India to get what it what it wants from TSP. But that was such a condescending argument, that its pity nobody in the audience had the brains to challenge him.

Also, that Aparna seems to some kind of lifafa fraud so coy to take India's position given all her BS about India unwilling to discuss Kashmir and such. Finally, if I were in audience, I would have confronted that Bum dork and Lisa on whether there is another example where a state sponsor or terror like TSP is treated with such kid gloves, and instead of talking about uprooting the terror evil from TSP in no uncertain terms we are gving it respectability by convincing it move away, using a democratic country like India as a "leverage", why being nice to TSP etc. I mean why not have the same with Al Queda, hold a dialogue with them on why their objectives are not being achieved by terrorizing Americans.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby pankajs » 11 Jan 2015 22:09

Yes WeinBum was smug on that point ... But the dood who asked the question provoked him by stating clearly in effect "US had no option BUT to pay". BTW WeinBum did state in his opening presentation that it was all India's fault and moved on. He did not stress the point. Point to be noted he was part of SD.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby CRamS » 11 Jan 2015 22:13

pankajs wrote:BTW WeinBum did state in his opening presentation that it was all India's fault and moved on. He did not stress the point. Point to be noted he was part of SD.


I'm too lazy and not motivated to go back and watch that s!it, but I missed Bum's opening remarks because I kept FFWding to get to the stage you suggested. What exactly did he say about India, kindly summarize.


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