Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec 2014

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby deejay » 18 Jan 2015 13:20

Karan M wrote:All India needs to do is drop three planeloads of those Hebdo cartoons on Karachi, Islumabad and Lahore and watch the cities tear themselves apart.


:rotfl:

But seriously, someone quickly get it to the NSA or someone - low cost options of helping TSP.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Kashi » 18 Jan 2015 13:55

SSridhar wrote:

Anindya, to me that looks like Paki's begging India not to harass them anymore.


That PIA were allowed to purchase properties in the heart of the city so close to so many sensitive places is a scandal itself. It would seem that UPA opened the innings for Pakiland soon after they took over..

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby RSoami » 18 Jan 2015 14:54

The truth to Paki rona dhona.

Officials said FEMA laws stipulate that "no person being a citizen of Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan, Iran, China, Nepal or Bhutan without prior permission of the RBI shall acquire or transfer immovable property in India other than lease, not exceeding five years."

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby pankajs » 18 Jan 2015 15:01

Karan M wrote:All India needs to do is drop three planeloads of those Hebdo cartoons on Karachi, Islumabad and Lahore and watch the cities tear themselves apart.

Why go to such pains hanji? Just a rumor that such stuff was being imported/printed/distributed inside bakiland will cause bakistaniyat to start flowing in full.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby RSoami » 18 Jan 2015 15:14

Although India is doing the same in Goa where foreigners have acquired properties flouting laws, PIA needs specal treatment.

Wouldnt it be nice if PIA halts its operations and Durkha Butt and Manishankar Aiyyar have to travel by bus to their beloved homeland.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby SSridhar » 18 Jan 2015 15:15

Islamic State reaches for Afghanistan, Pakistan - AP, Japan Times
Afghanistan and Pakistan, home to al-Qaida and Taliban militants and the focus of the longest war in U.S. history, now face a new, emerging threat from the Islamic State group, officials have told reporters.

Disenchanted extremists from the Taliban and other organizations, impressed by the Islamic State group’s territorial gains and slick online propaganda, have begun raising its black flag in extremist-dominated areas of both countries.

In Pakistan, an online video purportedly shows militants beheading a man while pledging their allegiance to the Islamic State group. In Afghanistan, there have even been reports of militant rivalries, with clashes erupting between Taliban fighters and Islamic State militants.

Analysts and officials say the number of Islamic State supporters in the Afghanistan-Pakistan region remains small and that the group faces resistance from militants with strong tribal links. However, the rise of even a small Islamic State affiliate could further destabilize the region and complicate U.S. and NATO efforts to wind down the 13-year war in Afghanistan.

The Taliban remain the region’s pre-eminent insurgency, with nearly 20 years of experience battling Afghan warlords and international troops. But the Taliban are “not a particularly sexy ideology or military force, and the risk lies in the Taliban looking increasingly out of date,” said a Western diplomat, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.

“It could be that young Afghans look to the more extreme tactics and the great glitzy publicity of the IS,” the diplomat said, using an acronym for the Islamic State group.

“They might find it attractive, or the Taliban might feel the need to compete and therefore become a bit more extreme and start carrying out horrific acts the way you see IS doing.”


The Islamic State group controls a third of both Syria and Iraq, where it has declared a caliphate governed by a harsh interpretation of Islamic law, or Shariah, and demanded the allegiance of the world’s Muslims. The Taliban, by contrast, are focused on Afghanistan and Pakistan, and some of its leaders have even responded to past peace overtures.

Smaller militant groups in Libya, Egypt, Lebanon and elsewhere have pledged allegiance to Islamic State leader and self-proclaimed caliph Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, with some referring to themselves as “provinces.”

In Afghanistan’s southern Helmand province, residents say a former Taliban commander named Mullah Abdul Rauf has begun recruiting fighters for the Islamic State group.

“People are saying that he has raised black flags and even has tried to bring down white Taliban flags in some areas,” said Saifullah Sanginwal, a tribal leader in Sangin district. “There are reports that 19 or 20 people have been killed” in fighting between the Taliban and the Islamic State, he added.

Pakistan’s Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan said in November there was no Islamic State group presence — only militants using its name. However, a government letter written a month earlier and later obtained by reporters warns local officials that the Islamic State group has begun courting militants in the area and that the extremists claim the support of up to “12,000 followers” in northwest Pakistan.

A video released in December showed female students and teachers at Islamabad’s Red Mosque, which holds great sway with Pakistan’s militants, sitting under an Islamic State flag, pledging support to al-Baghdadi as cleric Maulana Abdul Aziz said it would welcome the group. Last week, an online video released by the Islamic State group showed a former Pakistani Taliban spokesman pledging his support with more than a dozen others, before beheading a man they identified as a soldier.

The Pakistan Institute for Peace Studies, an organization based in the country’s capital and devoted to tracking militant groups, also issued a report calling the Islamic State group a “real and emerging threat for Pakistan.”

“It has created a major survival challenge for the main militant actors who could now act to prove their operational credentials,”
the report said.

Taliban militants in Afghanistan and Pakistan owe their allegiance to Mullah Omar, a cleric who has led the Taliban since the 1990s but has not been seen or heard in public for years. Officials fear that an Islamic State push into the region could bring an infusion of guns and money, sparking brutal competition among local militants disenchanted with Mullah Omar’s silence and eager to prove themselves with escalating atrocities.

One former Taliban commander pledged allegiance to the Islamic State group “because he felt alienated from the Taliban leadership,” said Graeme Smith, an analyst focusing on Afghanistan for the International Crisis Group.

“He seems to be doing better as a result,” Smith added. “He seems to have more money and weapons than before and people are noticing that maybe there is some actual link that is more than symbolic.”

A senior U.S. State Department official, speaking this week in Pakistan on condition of anonymity to discuss diplomatic talks, said both Afghan and Pakistani officials shared their concerns with America about the Islamic State group seeking a regional foothold.

“There’s no daylight between us in terms of wanting to be coordinated in efforts to thwart” the Islamic State group, the official said.

At the same time, the militants would struggle to mount a real challenge to the Taliban, which is deeply enmeshed in tribal Pashtun society, said Borhan Osman, a researcher with the Afghanistan Analysts Network.

But with the attention of NATO forces and U.S. troops now focused on training Afghans — as opposed to conducting combat operations, — some worry that the Islamic State group could gain ground and pose a serious threat in the future.

“We need to be very watchful,” said Nasir Khan Durrani, police chief of Pakistan’s Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province, which borders the lawless tribal region and militant haven. “We need to be careful.”

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Comer » 18 Jan 2015 15:58

^^ Am wondering, how difficult it it for NaPak army and ISI to setup this local franchise of ISIS? With the Afghan spigot soon to be turned off, they would need a new avenue for jiziya. It is easier to setup the local chapter yourself than compete with an organic grown variety.
Just speculation onlee.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby shiv » 18 Jan 2015 16:48

saravana wrote:^^ Am wondering, how difficult it it for NaPak army and ISI to setup this local franchise of ISIS? With the Afghan spigot soon to be turned off, they would need a new avenue for jiziya. It is easier to setup the local chapter yourself than compete with an organic grown variety.
Just speculation onlee.

Well Arun Gupta has made this terrific post in reply to a question I asked
viewtopic.php?p=1781642#p1781642

Comparing Pak army and ISIS, the army is organized crime, ISIS is organized religion. The latter will win.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Karan M » 18 Jan 2015 18:18

Neela wrote:
Karan M wrote:All India needs to do is drop three planeloads of those Hebdo cartoons on Karachi, Islumabad and Lahore and watch the cities tear themselves apart.

Hello, Ra's al Ghul....hello?


One more idea. Graffiti/posters of Hebdos cartoons on all Pak Army base walls. :-o

With a statement - "we are not afraid. Phreedom of speech zindabad. Down down bad Taliban".

Clearly liberal moderate whisky swilling, dog keeping Pak Army will approve.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby UlanBatori » 18 Jan 2015 18:35

I have it on reliable authority that the Kahuta labs and the new "nuclear reactor" are actually being used as paper mills to print out large numbers of Charles Hebdo magazines and cartoons. That this should be done in an Islamic country! Haraam! Haraam!

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby SSridhar » 18 Jan 2015 19:06

Akram Lahori executed in Kot Lakhpat jail

He was one of the founders of Lashkar-e-Jhangvi.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Karan M » 18 Jan 2015 19:11

UlanBatori wrote:I have it on reliable authority that the Kahuta labs and the new "nuclear reactor" are actually being used as paper mills to print out large numbers of Charles Hebdo magazines and cartoons. That this should be done in an Islamic country! Haraam! Haraam!


Kahuta printing press located inside the reactor complex is involved in this. Also frenchmen have been seen in PN dockyard and PAF Air bases. They are all cartoonists seeking to subvert the true spirit of bakistan.
There are also posters with Raheel Sharifs foto on hebdo cartoons with sharif saying je suis charlie.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby pankajs » 18 Jan 2015 19:46

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/ensur ... tan-650521
Ensure No Cross-Border Terror Incident During Obama's India Visit: US Warns Pakistan
Ahead of President Barack Obama's visit to India, the US has asked Pakistan to ensure that there is no cross-border terror incident during the trip and subtly warned of "consequences" if any such attack is traced back to the country, sources said.

The warning has been issued keeping the track record of Pakistan-based militant groups that have carried out attacks in India that have coincided with high-profile visits from the US.

Militants had shot dead 36 Sikhs in March 20, 2000, in the Anantnag district of Jammu and Kashmir, coinciding with the visit of the then US President Bill Clinton to India.
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At least 10,000 paramilitary troops will be deployed along with the 80,000-strong Delhi Police to ensure fool-proof security in and around Rajpath -- the main venue.

A seven-layer security ring will be thrown around the Very Very Important People or VVIP enclosure at the venue and the airspace over the area would be monitored by a radar to be specially set up.

This will form part of the planned unprecedented ground-to-air security drill that will turn the national capital into an impregnable fortress during Obama's visit.

The US forces in Afghanistan are also keeping a close eye on the activities of the terrorist groups in the region.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Gus » 18 Jan 2015 19:52

So they are openly saying pukistan is responsible for previous attacks???

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby pankajs » 18 Jan 2015 19:59

Yes ... and for once Bakis have been declared hit-wicket out even before they took guard.

It is tactical move and of no consequence or comfort to India. At least that is my view till I am proven wrong conclusively.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby deejay » 18 Jan 2015 20:05

^^^ This is an absolute admission of Pakis being a terrorist sponsor by the 'first' of 3.5 fathers. Way to go TSP. Some more recognition for their hard work of last 7 decades.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Karan M » 18 Jan 2015 20:12

Also shows what all those comments about india and TSP should be == in peace are really worth. The SD folks are true slimeballs and knwo the reality

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby UlanBatori » 18 Jan 2015 20:38

Karan M wrote:Also shows what all those comments about india and TSP should be == in peace are really worth. The SD folks are true slimeballs and knwo the reality


Typical wishful dreams and evil propaganda by Yindoos. All that has happened is that the US has asked Pakistan, the only truly Martial Power in the neighborhood, to help in keeping the US President secure when he is in South Asia. As we all know, the US also begged Pakistan desperately for help when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, and more recently after the so-called 9/11 YYY conspiracy in the US. Pakistan is the greatest Al-Lie of the US, so naturally the US has asked Pakistan for help to detect any terrorist plots.

Pakistan is the world's No. 1 VICTIM :(( :(( of terrorism.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby saip » 18 Jan 2015 21:06

pankajs wrote:http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/ensure-no-cross-border-terror-incident-during-obama-s-india-visit-us-warns-pakistan-650521
Ensure No Cross-Border Terror Incident During Obama's India Visit: US Warns Pakistan
Ahead of President Barack Obama's visit to India, the US has asked Pakistan to ensure that there is no cross-border terror incident during the trip and subtly warned of "consequences" if any such attack is traced back to the country, sources said.

The warning has been issued keeping the track record of Pakistan-based militant groups that have carried out attacks in India that have coincided with high-profile visits from the US.

Militants had shot dead 36 Sikhs in March 20, 2000, in the Anantnag district of Jammu and Kashmir, coinciding with the visit of the then US President Bill Clinton to India.
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At least 10,000 paramilitary troops will be deployed along with the 80,000-strong Delhi Police to ensure fool-proof security in and around Rajpath -- the main venue.

A seven-layer security ring will be thrown around the Very Very Important People or VVIP enclosure at the venue and the airspace over the area would be monitored by a radar to be specially set up.

This will form part of the planned unprecedented ground-to-air security drill that will turn the national capital into an impregnable fortress during Obama's visit.

The US forces in Afghanistan are also keeping a close eye on the activities of the terrorist groups in the region.

I thought that Kerry paid Pakistan $250 mil Jizya to ensure that.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Gus » 18 Jan 2015 21:12

cant find any amirkhan sources for this, only ndtv, indiatimes etc. (sources say, is what they say..) I am skeptical..and actually a little puzzled why rndtv runs with this story (monkey ass and all that).

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby RSoami » 18 Jan 2015 21:16

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/editorial/ ... ing-crisis
There is no electricity for most of the day, no gas and now no petrol. We are now being told that because of the oil shortage, the power crisis will worsen. How long does the government think it has before the masses, deprived of every amenity imaginable, turn violent on the streets?


Inshaallah, H&D is intact.
Pakistan State Oil becomes Forbes 2000 Company
:rotfl: :rotfl:
http://www.pakistanherald.com/news/3738 ... 00-company

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby saip » 18 Jan 2015 21:44

They solved the gas shortage the Paki way!
http://i.dawn.com/medium/2015/01/54bb5c ... ?r=1414707

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Karan M » 18 Jan 2015 21:53

All they need to do is connect a pipe to each TSP Jarnails a$$. There will be enough gas for the whole of al Bakistan..

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Dipanker » 18 Jan 2015 23:28

Google lists Pakistan as top _porn-searching country

SAN FRANCISCO- According to news website Salon, Pakistan tops the list of most _porn-searching countries and leads the way in _porn searches for animals like pigs, donkeys, dogs, cats and snakes. The data was released by Google.

Also, six of the top eight _porn-searching countries were Muslim states. Egypt stood second while Iran, Morocco, Saudi Arabia and Turkey came in at numbers four, five, seven and eight, respectively. The Saudi Arabian government recently disabled around 9,000 Twitter accounts linked with the publication of _pornography.

Although the sale of _pornographic material is banned in nearly every Arab country except Lebanon and Turkey, the numbers showed different results.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby abhijitm » 19 Jan 2015 00:17

pankajs wrote:http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/ensure-no-cross-border-terror-incident-during-obama-s-india-visit-us-warns-pakistan-650521
Ensure No Cross-Border Terror Incident During Obama's India Visit: US Warns Pakistan

It means there is credible intelligence about the imminent attack.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby member_22733 » 19 Jan 2015 00:18

It also means that the US acknowledges that its munna is exporting terror. Only acknowledged when US interests can take a hit because of a terror attack on India.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby UlanBatori » 19 Jan 2015 00:31

Seriously, if u were in charge of security for the Yindoo Republic Day Parade, u would be a bit anxious now. At the very least, if there is a serious attack (- and can the sh!ts resist the temptation of the assembled targets?), I think this govt would (SHOULD) respond by bombing the pakistan out of IslamaGood and 'Pindi once and for all, and taking over Muzzafaragood and RYK (Minister's statements already indicate that the time for '4 bullets for each bullet' etc B-Fitting Lessons are over, it's time to get serious). That would bring the odd retaliatory soosai air raids on Dilli and Mumbai by the PAF since they won't have runways or makaans to return to. BO's hair style, tailored jacket and pant bottoms might look a bit frayed ducking into a bomb shelter - or hiding under the armored limo.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby sudhan » 19 Jan 2015 03:10

Here is the Pawki Railway minister working furiously to discharge his duties..

By releasing a statement on the Pope's comment on the Paris attack

And still manages to peddle snake oil..

Pawki Railways has enuff oil reserve for 14 days!!

Clearly none of their trains are running.. Or the honorable minister got the power ministry's media memo..

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby A_Gupta » 19 Jan 2015 04:31

http://customstoday.com.pk/ono-against- ... 40m-fraud/
The fiscal fraud by M/s PTCL, its contractor M/s Huawei and its clearing agent M/s Eastern Freighter was detected by the Directorate of Customs Intelligence and Investigation-FBR, Karachi.
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The M/s PTCL in compliance of clearing agent M/s Eastern Freighter Services and its local contractor M/s Huawei Technologies imported telecommunication equipment which have actual invoiced value of Rs 1,009,417,370 and evaded leviable duty and taxes amounting to Rs 441,650,943 in share of Customs Duty, Rs 1,69,707,994 in share of Sales Tax; Rs 10,094,174 in share of FED and Rs 80,608,345 in share of Withholding Tax (WHT).

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Postby Peregrine » 19 Jan 2015 05:10

Fruits of stock boom shared by just 230,000 people
KARACHI: The total number of investors in the country’s stock market currently stands at around 230,000.

Compared with that the number of equity investors in the neighbouring Iran stands at a mammoth 40 million and in China 100m.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby jrjrao » 19 Jan 2015 05:32

Good intel from local people leading to good clean operations in Kashmir this past couple weeks.

In which Pakroach after Pakroach are getting dispatched.
The Defense spokesman said: "This is the fifth successful operation of 2015. So far a total of eight terrorists have been eliminated and two terrorists apprehended in 2015.”

Divisional commanders of LeT, JeM killed (in Sopore in district Baramulla.)

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Vayutuvan » 19 Jan 2015 06:13

saip wrote: I thought that Kerry paid Pakistan $250 mil Jizya to ensure that.


Too little too late 8)

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby uddu » 19 Jan 2015 07:35

Afghanistan and Pakistan, home to al-Qaida and Taliban militants and the focus of the longest war in U.S. history, now face a new, emerging threat from the Islamic State group, officials have told reporters.

Disenchanted extremists from the Taliban and other organizations, impressed by the Islamic State group’s territorial gains and slick online propaganda, have begun raising its black flag in extremist-dominated areas of both countries.


What? Islamic Republic of Pakistan is not Islamic enough? :shock:

Pakistan is the ISIS from 1947 onwards

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Tuvaluan » 19 Jan 2015 08:28

Pakistan has run out of oil, and Daesh/IS has a lot of oil that it cannot sell for the price it did a year ago, when it could get 100$ for oil and now it can barely get 30$ for the oil. Paki jihadis are eager to join some religious crowd that is green as it gets and the paki army whisky swilling jihadis are not green enough.

So
1) IS has a lot of money to pay jihadis
2) Pakis are running low on oil and this hurts the paki army most
3) IS can get more for its oil if it tried to gain an advantage for its current selling price, such as paki nuclear weapons
4) IS may well start to run its own government in Pakistan that operates as a new power center.

I suspect this development is imminent.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby shiv » 19 Jan 2015 08:49

Tuvaluan, ISIS, for all its "slave labour" jihadis from shitistan and Europe, may well be a racist Arab phenomenon uninterested in setting up a Caliphate in a faraway eastern land merely for ideological and considerations. Pakistanis will be good only as slave labour and the "badlands" of NWFP can serve, at best, as a hideout and training ground far away from Western forces and protected, as it were by the slavishness of the Paki army which will spend a week licking Arab ass at a nanosecond's notice.

Besides - the oil is in the west and a power center in Pakistan will be far removed from the source of money - so the idea that pakistan can somehow become an ISIS center may well be just another Paki ploy to get aid. Ultimately ISIS can only hide in NWFP like Al Qaeda and Taliban did, with Paki army sheltering and giving medical treatment to "special guests" whose capture will dry up American funds.

The way funds are allocated within the US is interesting here. In fact there may be "Pakistan hands" in the US who are actively (and legally) making a lot of money ensuring that funds keep going to Pakistan.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby UlanBatori » 19 Jan 2015 08:54

Pakistan will be far removed from the source of money

What an insult! How can Pakistan be removed from any source of money? Which is more precious, 1 kilo of Bakistani hashish or 1 kilo of crude oil, hain? Qiad -e- Duh!

In fact there may be "Pakistan hands" in the US who are actively (and legally) making a lot of money ensuring that funds keep going to Pakistan.

NOW u r getting to the real issue: WHY the US taxpayer keeps supporting terrorism, in apparent congitive dissonance. Bakistan is ideal, precisely because there is a direct Jarnail-2-Jarnail channel, also connected at both ends to political netas and tycoons - of the arms industry in the US, and Karachi real estate in TSP.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Tuvaluan » 19 Jan 2015 09:11

Shiv, I am not doubting that the paki loving tools in the US state dept. are providing aid to the pakis for their own reasons.

But as you say, the NWFP is lawless enough that IS can get a whole bunch of slave labour given how much money it has, and the citizens of NWFP are already green enough to consider the IS as some sort of benefactors, potentially allowing them to challenge the paki army. But then the paki army, in its strategic brilliance, may well make a pact with the IS w.r.t nuclear weapons as some sort of win-win deal. It just seems to me that the timing of paki oil shortage and a islamofascist arab jihadi group with lots of oil to sell on the cheap is coinciding enough to allow some possibilities that did not exist a few months ago.

However, I can also see that this does not help India much, as this will only allow the paki-loving scum in the US state dept. to hand over free oil and more cash is such a situation came to pass, or the paki army played this up just to get more baksheesh.

As UB says, the US jernails and paki jernails are tight and the numbnut jernails on the US side believe whatever fiction the paki army peddles to them, so this situation may just be resolved by more baksheesh from the cretins in the US state dept. (obviously from US taxpayers) to the pakis. They will keep doing this until the nukes become an existential threat to them, and then start pretending that India is part of the problem, as opposed to these sh1t-for-brains in the US state dept. being part of the problem…..so I guess nothing has really changed because of all of these developments. Never mind.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby shiv » 19 Jan 2015 09:28

Tuvaluan wrote: But then the paki army, in its strategic brilliance, may well make a pact with the IS w.r.t nuclear weapons as some sort of win-win deal.

Much as I would love to see exactly this happen - I believe it is unlikely. Guess where ISIS would use a nuke if they could get one? :mrgreen:

But It occurs to me that the Paki army's survival plan ensures keeping nukes aimed at India alone and reassuring the US of this fact. The US would be quite happy and grateful for that.

Of course the biggest fear in the west is of "rebel" Paki armed forces jihadis stealing nuke assets and handing them to ISIS. The US is paying Pakistan to prevent this and Pakistan is probably paying some rebels to keep the threat bubbling.We keep hoping that the rebels will succeed but the rebels seem to be as incompetent as the Pakistan army.

My cup would be in "runneth over" condition is some Plutonium were to find its way into Xinjiang.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby chetak » 19 Jan 2015 09:43

Tuvaluan wrote:Pakistan has run out of oil, and Daesh/IS has a lot of oil that it cannot sell for the price it did a year ago, when it could get 100$ for oil and now it can barely get 30$ for the oil. Paki jihadis are eager to join some religious crowd that is green as it gets and the paki army whisky swilling jihadis are not green enough.

So
1) IS has a lot of money to pay jihadis
2) Pakis are running low on oil and this hurts the paki army most
3) IS can get more for its oil if it tried to gain an advantage for its current selling price, such as paki nuclear weapons
4) IS may well start to run its own government in Pakistan that operates as a new power center.

I suspect this development is imminent.


They (IS) were selling oil at $39 when the price was $100.

Their market has been trashed now and they are in a cash crunch.

This may have been one of the objectives of the saudis letting the oil price drop so dramatically.


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