Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec 2014

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Prem » 03 Jan 2015 00:36

Author forgets about Islamic factor in Pakiemptyhead: Marrsi Marrsi Parr Malsihabits Naa Chaddsii
The Significant 'other' factors reshaping Pakistan's war on terror

Nevertheless, I for one shall not be carried away by past experiences and lose sight of new factors that suggest that Pakistan may have turned the corner. There is more at play than meets the eye.US troops are going home and so is US moneyWhen the US military campaign in Afghanistan came knocking at our door, the country was under a host of economic and military sanctions imposed by none other than the US itself.The Pressler Amendment of 1985 had bound the US president to annually certify that a country receiving military or economic aid from US was not pursuing a nuclear program. For five years, President Regan and then President Bush (Senior) signed the certificate, up until the Soviets finally withdrew from Afghanistan.The US non-military aid to Pakistan for the period 1991-2001 averaged just $75 million per year, while the total military aid during the eleven year period was a paltry $7 million.All of this changed in September 2001. President Bush (Junior) waived Pressler, Symington and Glenn Amendments and the US Congress voted to allow the President to waive ‘democracy sanctions’. This broke loose a flood of US money.US military aid to Pakistan in the first year of the new war, 2002, was a staggering $1.74 billion. The non-military economic assistance that year was $937 million.
Bloomberg quotes Congressional Research Service claiming, the U.S. paid Pakistan $11 billion out of the Pentagon’s Coalition Support Fund budget as of 2013. Including other military and economic aid, the US has given Pakistan about $28 billion during the 12 years through 2014.General Raheel Sharif got an extension in the Coalition Support Fund for 2015 worth $1 billion during his recent visit to the US. But by 2016, US will be completely out of its combat status in Afghanistan.
Peace is a pre-requisite to growth and it is only possible if terrorism is uprooted and we embark on a new era of regional cooperation.Pakistan cannot afford to lose China as a friend
The recent upsurge in terror acts is blamed on the Operation Zarb-e-Azb, which, despite its shortcomings, the world has come to recognise as a step forward in the fight against terrorism.Two weeks before the launch of Zarb-e-Azb, (on June 15, 2014), General Raheel Sharif paid a visit to China, holding meetings with political and military leadership of the new global power.Since then, there has been a crisscross of meetings between US, China, Afghanistan, Pakistan and India.
China has advised Pakistan to settle its disputes with India through talks. It has also exhorted ‘neighbours of Afghanistan’ to not meddle in its internal affairs. It has come out in support of the new government in Kabul and has signed economic cooperation agreements worth tens of billions of dollar with Afghanistan, Pakistan and India.A new economy is emerging in the region, and China is a dominant player in it.CBeijing has recently said it is investing $300 billion in the region and a good part of this is going in developing roads and railways that will link China with Europe and other regions. One important route shall pass through Pakistan and China wants its merchandise to flow on it, but is wary of religious extremism traveling back into its already troubled region.Three: China has stakes in the region’s economy. It already has a $3.5 billion copper mining contract at Mes Aynak near Kabul. China's appetite for mineral resources is insatiable.Besides that, many of the Chinese investments in other countries of the region can materialise or optimise if there are no cross-country hindrances. This provides “once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to kick-start the two redundant economies of Pakistan and Afghanistan.”.So Pakistan is left with China as the only reliable military partner – and it certainly cannot afford to lose or annoy her.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby KLNMurthy » 03 Jan 2015 00:42

UlanBatori wrote:Funny! Malloostan Neuj has already declared that the 4 were "Lashkar" terrorists.
Point to note is that IN /CG showed willingness for hot pursuit faar from 12-mile limit.

Latest: TSPA radio recovered.

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Postby rgosain » 03 Jan 2015 00:46

Jhujar, what concessions could the Chinese offer Modi to be nice to the Paks. We know they tried eyeballing him in August and got rebuffed.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Prem » 03 Jan 2015 01:21

rgosain wrote:Jhujar, what concessions could the Chinese offer Modi to be nice to the Paks. We know they tried eyeballing him in August and got rebuffed.


China have to agree to all the demands made by India . 8) China cant even try for number one position as long as Paki Munna is tied to its feet like Gungroo.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby ArmenT » 03 Jan 2015 07:17

LokeshC wrote:Could have been more of guns than explosives. If i was a drug runner I would dump the drugs in the sea and surrender. If it was full of RDX, the boat would have been blown to bits before catching fire. The picture shows that the boat was structurally intact after the explosion.

So I would bet that they were running guns.

They could dump guns overboard as easily as drugs. They sink more easily, for one. Hell, even if the contraband was something light, they could always tie something heavy to it and chuck it overboard. Also, without a detonator, RDX is very stable and merely burns at a relatively slow rate instead of exploding. They could have ditched it overboard as well, if they were carrying it. Perhaps the big blaze was because of the diesel fuel catching fire.

Methinks they had strict orders not to be captured alive by India, in case one of them talked like Kasab. At least, key leader(s) of the team were probably given those orders.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby partha » 03 Jan 2015 07:43

I was wondering how NTRO ended up intercepting the calls from boatmen to & from handlers.

(1) We have tapped into the backbone telecom infra of Pakistan which allows NTRO to continuously monitor and process calls.
(2) HUMINT sources along the Paki coastline or deep inside deep state who might have tipped off our agencies about some suspicious boats leaving Karachi after which NTRO might have started monitoring.

Most likely (2). Even during Mumbai attacks, agencies started intercepting terror communications only after the attacks began.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby shiv » 03 Jan 2015 08:19

Hey maybe those 4 guys went down, said AoA and just blew themselves up by pulling the soosai cord on their vests.

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Postby shiv » 03 Jan 2015 08:21

ArmenT wrote:Methinks they had strict orders not to be captured alive by India, in case one of them talked like Kasab. At least, key leader(s) of the team were probably given those orders.

People on a mission like this have to be deeply indoctrinated and highly motivated - so I am sure they followed orders. I just wonder if they have call intercepts during the chase. Those may be important, but we may never know - the methods may be classified.

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Postby Ambar » 03 Jan 2015 08:31

Wouldnt such fundoo yahoos usually engage in a firefight before getting their 72 through self-explosion ? Setting themselves on fire along with the boat doesn't make much sense unless they used it as a smokescreen to swim away. If they did swim, i doubt they survived unless there was a support vessel close-by.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby saip » 03 Jan 2015 08:37

ArmenT wrote:
LokeshC wrote:Could have been more of guns than explosives. If i was a drug runner I would dump the drugs in the sea and surrender. If it was full of RDX, the boat would have been blown to bits before catching fire. The picture shows that the boat was structurally intact after the explosion.

So I would bet that they were running guns.

They could dump guns overboard as easily as drugs. They sink more easily, for one. Hell, even if the contraband was something light, they could always tie something heavy to it and chuck it overboard. Also, without a detonator, RDX is very stable and merely burns at a relatively slow rate instead of exploding. They could have ditched it overboard as well, if they were carrying it. Perhaps the big blaze was because of the diesel fuel catching fire.

Methinks they had strict orders not to be captured alive by India, in case one of them talked like Kasab. At least, key leader(s) of the team were probably given those orders.

I saw an episode of Mythbusters. They cooked meals with I think RDX.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby shiv » 03 Jan 2015 08:38

Ambar wrote:Wouldnt such fundoo yahoos usually engage in a firefight before getting their 72 through self-explosion ? Setting themselves on fire along with the boat doesn't make much sense unless they used it as a smokescreen to swim away. If they did swim, i doubt they survived unless there was a support vessel close-by.


I think they would simply have been starved of food and fuel and then captured, or at least the boat captured. I guess they did not want that. Where is the news item that said a Pak radio was found floating in the area?

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby member_22733 » 03 Jan 2015 08:42

If there were 4 soosai veshtis blowing up in that boat, you will see much larger damage on that boat (its rather small). I dont think they "blew themselves up". It looks like they set fire to the boat and may have committed soosai using other means.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby abhishek_sharma » 03 Jan 2015 08:52

The Indian Express ‏@IndianExpress 7m7 minutes ago
4 civilians injured in firing and shelling by Pakistani troops along the border in Kathua and Samba districts in J&K: Police

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby kmkraoind » 03 Jan 2015 09:04

Diesel story of #TerrorBoat is pure BS. There were talks of Rs. 5 lakh to each smuggler. Assuming that there were 2 smugglers & some helpers. Then the question arises, if there are 2 x Rs. 5 lakh rupee worth of Diesel, then that boat must be carrying 16 tons of diesel (@56 Rs/l). If the cargo capacity is 16 tons of diesel, the boat must be having at least 25+ ton weight. If the boat is 25+ tons, it must be carrying enough fuel to run more than 1 hour (return journey to Pak).

I bet they are carrying explosives and arms (probably dumped at high seas during CG chase). Along with arms, they must be carrying huge FICNs and other stuff. Probably ISI ordered them to destroy the boat at any cost (to erase evidence) and Ghazis in that boat obeyed that order.

RandiRudalis in NDTV have brains to say that boat is not destroyed in explosive burst, but cannot they calculate 10-15 lakhs diesel volume and why persons in that boat killed themselves and destroyed the boat.

Without any doubt, I will say NDTV is Pak funded and they are working to safeguard Pak's interests. In this aspect India is worse than US. During Soviet era, slightest communist sympathizers in US were brought down mercilessly. While in India, we award them with Padma awards.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby g.sarkar » 03 Jan 2015 09:05

shiv wrote:Hey maybe those 4 guys went down, said AoA and just blew themselves up by pulling the soosai cord on their vests.

The Coast Guard should do the smell test to see what happened. If there is a smell of expensive Arap Ittr then they have pulled the soosai kard and is enjoying the 72 in behest. If there is a strong smell of pig urine and pig shit, they just got scared, set the boat on fire and tried to swim away. This test never fails.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Anujan » 03 Jan 2015 09:06

One Paki anchor is demanding apology by India for calling smugglers as terrorists (!) DDM is going crazy that the boat was merely a smuggler and not a terrorist. The reason I get very frustrated is that by that measure Dawood is a smuggler too. And he was responsible for Mumbai blasts of '93. What is this semantic distinction about "some poor smugglers being killed and unfairly called terrorists" nonsense?

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby shiv » 03 Jan 2015 09:19

Anujan wrote: DDM is going crazy that the boat was merely a smuggler and not a terrorist.

On cable TV all the news channels come together. When there is "breaking fart news" every channel has the same visuals and same breathless anchors. You turn on one channel you've seen them all - so the choice of channels is dependent on avoiding some moron like Turdesai. Every channel tries to outdo itself in coming up with some new and sensational theory.

News channels are not news channels. They are "what attracts eyeballs and makes money" channels. Till yesterday our very own Ornobe was hyperventilating about skull cap and Gujarat police. Today that storm has blown over..

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Postby arun » 03 Jan 2015 09:51

Pew Global survey from a fortnight back highlights the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s love for democracy :wink: . The Islamic Republic of Pakistan has the lowest level of political engagement among the 30 countries surveyed. Low political participation rates clearly brings out the thrall in which the Punjabi dominated Military holds the civilian population of Pakistan.

Next time an individual originating from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan mouths off about the high regard in which Mohammaddenism supposedly causes democracy to be held in Pakistan, this survey should provide an effective bung :lol: :

Involvement in politics is somewhat less prevalent in Asia. While about two-thirds of Bangladeshis (65%) report higher levels of participation, other Asian publics are less apt to participate. Pakistan (12%) is home to the lowest level of political engagement among the 30 countries included in the index. Indonesia (20%), the Philippines (21%) and Malaysia (26%) also have relatively low participation rates.


From PEW Global here:

Many in Emerging and Developing Nations Disconnected from Politics

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby jagga » 03 Jan 2015 10:03

9.37 AM:Rediff: 3 more rangers pigs got their hooris.

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Postby arun » 03 Jan 2015 10:23

Utpal Kumar writing in the Daily Mail heaps praises on BJP Government of Prime Minister Modi for robustly responding to provocations from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

While strategy of inflicting disproportionate punitive force as a response to provocations from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is undoubtedly the correct strategy, I will hold off on piling encomiums upon the BJP Government of Prime Minister Modi for now and adopt a wait and watch approach to see if the strategy is invariably followed as it is my observation that major provocations by the Islamic Republic like the attack on our Herat consulate, response to previous LoC firing, attack on Army Camp at Mohra and bailing Zaki ur Rehman Lakhi has not been adequately punished:

It could have been another 26/11 in the making had Coast Guards (CGs) not intercepted a fishing boat from Pakistan off Porbandar coast on the December 31 night.

This ‘terror’ boat, which blew itself up when approached by CGs, had sailed from Karachi, much like the one which brought 10 gunmen, including Ajmal Kasab, who went on a three-day rampage in Mumbai six years ago and killed 166 people.

The incident, besides being a reminder of the fact that the new government in Delhi is way too alert to terror challenges emanating from Islamabad, also showcases in no uncertain terms that Pakistan is yet to come to terms with the fact that India is no longer being governed by the UPA. There was a time when Islamabad would expect Delhi to host ‘biryani’ for its leaders even when its soldiers would be killed at the border. Not anymore.

Now if an Indian soldier is hurt or killed, the new dispensation ensures that the Pakistan side faces an equally, if not more, devastating scenario, as has been the case in the current standoff between the two nations on the International Border.

Indian forces not just inflicted heavy casualties on the other side of the border, which also saw five Pakistan Rangers losing their lives, they also refused to stop firing bullets and mortars even when the Pakistani side waved white flag.

There were many in India who thought the barbaric attack on the Army Public School in Peshawar on December 16 would finally make Pakistan realise the hydra-headed Frankenstein it has created over the years.

Many woolly-headed liberals eloquently put forward the idea that the time had come for both the countries to come together and fight the menace, encouraged as they were by Nawaz Sharif’s pompous statement saying there would be no differentiation between ‘good’ and ‘bad’ Taliban any more. But if his government’s recent record on Hafiz Saeed and Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi is a anything to go by, Pakistan hasn’t yet lost hope on ‘good’ terrorists!

Unfortunately for them, India no longer has a ‘lazy’ government.



From here: Daily Mail

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby g.sarkar » 03 Jan 2015 10:34

http://www.firstpost.com/india/sartaj-a ... 27983.html
Sartaj Aziz writes to Sushma Swaraj, seeks probe on Rangers' killing
Islamabad: Pakistan Prime Minister's Adviser on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz today wrote to External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj, protesting the killing of soldiers in BSF firing and seeking an immediate probe into the incident. Aziz, who was instructed by Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif to take up the matter with the Indian authorities, condemned the incident and lodged strong protest over the killing of two Pakistan Rangers in BSF's firing on 31 December.
The BSF has said the firing was in retaliation to the killing of one of its jawan after Rangers targeted a BSF patrol party along the International Border in Samba district in Jammu and Kashmir. In the letter handed over to Indian High Commissioner TCA Raghavan by foreign secretary Aizaz Ahmad Chaudhry, Aziz demanded an immediate probe into the incident and bringing the perpetrators to account. "The letter underlines that the regrettable ambush of the soldiers would undermine mechanisms established by the two countries to ensure peace and tranquility along the Line of Control (LoC) and the Working Boundary (WB)," the Foreign Office said in a statement in Islamabad......
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Chandragupta » 03 Jan 2015 11:21

kmkraoind wrote:Diesel story of #TerrorBoat is pure BS. There were talks of Rs. 5 lakh to each smuggler. Assuming that there were 2 smugglers & some helpers. Then the question arises, if there are 2 x Rs. 5 lakh rupee worth of Diesel, then that boat must be carrying 16 tons of diesel (@56 Rs/l). If the cargo capacity is 16 tons of diesel, the boat must be having at least 25+ ton weight. If the boat is 25+ tons, it must be carrying enough fuel to run more than 1 hour (return journey to Pak).

I bet they are carrying explosives and arms (probably dumped at high seas during CG chase). Along with arms, they must be carrying huge FICNs and other stuff. Probably ISI ordered them to destroy the boat at any cost (to erase evidence) and Ghazis in that boat obeyed that order.

RandiRudalis in NDTV have brains to say that boat is not destroyed in explosive burst, but cannot they calculate 10-15 lakhs diesel volume and why persons in that boat killed themselves and destroyed the boat.

Without any doubt, I will say NDTV is Pak funded and they are working to safeguard Pak's interests. In this aspect India is worse than US. During Soviet era, slightest communist sympathizers in US were brought down mercilessly. While in India, we award them with Padma awards.


Remember RNDTV had once called some terrorists had come for 'chhota mota blasts' ('small explosions'). What more can you expect from these ******?

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Postby member_22733 » 03 Jan 2015 11:22

^^^ saar, you have stepped on an IED-Mubarak land=mine that shredded me a few hours ago, plss to delete one of the above names before you become bredatored.

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Postby Karan M » 03 Jan 2015 12:06

Chandragupta wrote:
kmkraoind wrote:Diesel story of #TerrorBoat is pure BS. There were talks of Rs. 5 lakh to each smuggler. Assuming that there were 2 smugglers & some helpers. Then the question arises, if there are 2 x Rs. 5 lakh rupee worth of Diesel, then that boat must be carrying 16 tons of diesel (@56 Rs/l). If the cargo capacity is 16 tons of diesel, the boat must be having at least 25+ ton weight. If the boat is 25+ tons, it must be carrying enough fuel to run more than 1 hour (return journey to Pak).

I bet they are carrying explosives and arms (probably dumped at high seas during CG chase). Along with arms, they must be carrying huge FICNs and other stuff. Probably ISI ordered them to destroy the boat at any cost (to erase evidence) and Ghazis in that boat obeyed that order.

RandiRudalis in NDTV have brains to say that boat is not destroyed in explosive burst, but cannot they calculate 10-15 lakhs diesel volume and why persons in that boat killed themselves and destroyed the boat.

Without any doubt, I will say NDTV is Pak funded and they are working to safeguard Pak's interests. In this aspect India is worse than US. During Soviet era, slightest communist sympathizers in US were brought down mercilessly. While in India, we award them with Padma awards.


Remember RNDTV had once called some terrorists had come for 'chhota mota blasts' ('small explosions'). What more can you expect from these ******?


Unbelievable - chota mota or other kind of bomb blasts. NDTV truly is the pits.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Paul » 03 Jan 2015 12:16

But where is the debris. They should be able to salvage something to show a trail.

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Postby arun » 03 Jan 2015 12:40

X Posted from the Pakistani Role in Global Terrorism thread.

Two brothers, Sheheryar Alam Qazi, and Raees Alam Qazi , originating in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and charged by the FBI with conspiring to explode a weapon of mass destruction in the United States, go to trial in Florida in the US for indulging in the Islamic Republic’s national past time:

Accused Oakland Park Terrorist's Phone Conversations Can Be Used as Evidence, Feds Say

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby krishnan » 03 Jan 2015 12:41

dont think , they have planned it out well , esp after mumbai attack , indian intel agencies recovered few stuff , this time they made sure nothing is left behind

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby JE Menon » 03 Jan 2015 12:47

^^Don't be too sure about that... We only know what was released by GoI (and even that may not be full disclosure).

Any addition by the MSM is pure speculative bullsh1t, which has more to do with their political leanings and eyeball strategy than with anything that actually happened. They may have their sources, but they don't know if their sources have been told to reach out and spread nonsense. The MSM then cannot identify their sources, while government has nothing to deny, and in the end the MSM end up looking like fools... But they will still continue to use their sources because there aren't that many. And they don't mind looking like fools because topic will change in 2 days max.

This is not a one-way street.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Rishi » 03 Jan 2015 13:19

Pigs unlikely to be given a Viking funeral. Hope we actually have them in custody. Would have thought this op would have been perfect for a Marcos raiding party

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Shalav » 03 Jan 2015 13:40

Well if they were terrorists, being burned excludes them from Jannat.

IIRC you get Jannat if there is any part of your body left for the Angels to find, even a fingernail will do per the Holy books. Cremation precludes you from enjoying Jannat, because ashes don't count apparently. Perhaps that's why the TTP terrorists burned the teachers? I could be completely off here, but I vaguely recall hearing something of the sort a long time ago.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Chandragupta » 03 Jan 2015 14:31

Who knows if the CG actually caught them alive?

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Postby arun » 03 Jan 2015 17:14

When Mohammadden religion driven practises cloister away women in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, it is inevitable that deviant paedophilic homosexual rape crops up with neither the fact that crime was committed on the Mohammadden Sabbath of Friday nor that crime was committed in a Mohammadden place of worship, preventing this dastardly crime. In this case Lahore Police are proceeding under the assumption that rapist were members of the Mosque administration:

Lahore: 6-year-old boy killed after rape

This deviant behaviour is no one off event in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Similar incidents of paedophilic homosexual rape have been reported over the past year or so. Indeed I suspect that the incidents of this nature, by standards of prevalence of deviant behaviour, are quite widespread in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

Sexual assault: Boy allegedly raped by three men

Crime against children: Five-year-old boy raped

Girl, boy gang raped in Hafizabad

Gruesome crime: Kindergarten boy ‘gang-raped’ by principal, others

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Sonugn » 03 Jan 2015 20:35

As per rrrNDTV flash "Cannot accept any of the contentions made in your letter': Foreign Minister Sushma Swaraj on Pakistan's allegations on cross-border firing"

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Postby rsingh » 03 Jan 2015 20:55

shiv wrote:Hey maybe those 4 guys went down, said AoA and just blew themselves up by pulling the soosai cord on their vests.

I think boat had a remotly controled bum.When all aws lost, all terrorists were called inside for a namaz and teleconference. Then the bum was activated by somebody sitting in bakistan or thailand.This time it was vwer well planned.

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Postby pankajs » 03 Jan 2015 21:16

Nothing new ..
http://zeenews.india.com/news/india/isi ... 24206.html
ISI disappointed as Lashkar-e-Toiba failed to disrupt J&K polls: Report

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby CRamS » 03 Jan 2015 23:35

I like our retd general Hasnian, he is a class act. He laid it out pretty bare to Shezaad Chutiya on what TSP strategy. Essentially to create harakiri on the LoC & IB, no grand military strategy per se other than pushing in pigLeTs. And it seems to me that there is some coordination going on: Note PDP's insistence on talks with TSP even as they continue with their machinations, talks with Harried scum etc. From TSP's vantage point, they cannot allow J&K and rest of India to continue apace as the gap widens. They are desperate for some big action so India and Paaaakiataan are on CNN, Fox, and pee-pe-see.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby Peregrine » 04 Jan 2015 00:02

kmkraoind wrote:Diesel story of #TerrorBoat is pure BS. There were talks of Rs. 5 lakh to each smuggler. Assuming that there were 2 smugglers & some helpers. Then the question arises, if there are 2 x Rs. 5 lakh rupee worth of Diesel, then that boat must be carrying 16 tons of diesel (@56 Rs/l). If the cargo capacity is 16 tons of diesel, the boat must be having at least 25+ ton weight. If the boat is 25+ tons, it must be carrying enough fuel to run more than 1 hour (return journey to Pak).


1.Per Arun Ji’s Post: 02 Jan 2015 16:08 Due to darkness, bad weather and strong winds

2. abhishek_sharma Ji’s
Post: 02 Jan 2015 16:28

a. In the picture taken by day the sea condition is such that there is no evidence if “foam” on the light waves.

b. Photograph of 01/01/2015 03:57

The Sea does not appear to be Rough, the Wind is not strong enough to create heavy “foam” o the top of the waves, which one notices while crossing the E. Channel by Ferry

c. [/b]There seems to be an object behind and to the right of the FV’s chimney upper point.[/b]

3. Per my post of 02 Jan 2015 17:54

The Fishing Boat was intercepted by the CGPV 365 km West-South West of Porbandar. This is roughly 350 KM from Karachi and roughly 600 KM from Mumbai.

However you state it must be carrying enough fuel to run more than 1 hour (return journey to Pak).

Therefore in addition to the object to the right of the tip of the Fishing Vessel’s Chimney one must consider that the FV had fuel to cover a distance of 350 KM to Karachi.

Other than that I agree with your analysis.

The sea Condition did permit the FV to be Boarded but it is the Fire that has prevented the Boarding not the Weather.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec

Postby vishvak » 04 Jan 2015 00:28

Man kidnapped for keeping long mustache
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Recently he was kidnapped by Islamists over his 30 inch long moustache and was held in a cave for a month until he shaved.


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Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec 2014

Postby Peregrine » 04 Jan 2015 00:48

'Bomb boat crew did not look like fishermen'

GANDHINAGAR: Indian Coast Guard (ICG) on Saturday said suspicions were raised about the identity of crew of the explosives-laden boat intercepted by them, as they did not resemble fishermen from their dressing style and carried no nets.

ICG said they followed the standard operating procedure (SOP) while intercepting the hostile boat, which as intelligence input suggested, had set sail from the port city of Karachi from Pakistan for some "illicit transaction".

The maritime law enforcement agency reiterated that the vessel was set on fire by its crew members, causing it to explode and later sink. The incident took place about 365 km off the coast of Porbander in the Arabian Sea on the intervening night of December 31 and January 1 after a hot pursuit by Coast Guard.

"We saw four men on the boat, they were nowhere looking like fishermen, they had wore t-shirts and half pants, and this raised suspicion on our side," Coast Guard Commander (North-West Region) Kuldip Singh Sheoran told reporters here. At near about MIDNIGHT?

A search operation is on for the bodies of the crew members and wreckage of the vessel, he said.

Asked if the boat occupants were terrorists, Sheoran said, "Multiple Indian intelligence agencies are jointly investigating the incident and they will go to the bottom to it."

"We received intelligence input at around 8.30 in the morning (of December 31) about the suspicious boat. We dispatched our Dornier aircraft and ship in that direction and by 1 in the afternoon we had positively identified the ship," he said. Does this mean that the Terrorists kept going on even though they had been sotted and identified by the CG Dornier aircraft?.

"At around midnight our vessel 'Rajratan' reached near the boat and tried to stop it by following standard operation procedure. But instead of surrendering, the boat started moving in a zig-zag way and switched off lights. We chased it for about one-and-a-half-hours.

"After the hot pursuit, we fired warning shots, but the boat did not stop. We fired more warning shots. After some time, the crew of the boat set it on fire and later it sank with them (occupants)," ICG officer said.

Regarding reports that there were two other suspicious boats in the high seas, Sheoran said they had no such information.

The ICG Commander said they have increased vigilance along the Gujarat coast after the boat incident and also in view of the two upcoming high-profile events here - Pravasi Bharatiya Divas and Vibrant Gujarat Summit.

"We are alert round-the-clock, but due to these events we are on extra alert. Our ships and aircraft are doing their job of patrolling the sea," he added.

The sea Condition did permit the FV to be Boarded but it is the Fire that has prevented the Boarding not the Weather.

Wiki Description of Inshore Patrol Vessel Rajratan (Rajshree Class):

Displacement: 300 long tons (305 t)
Length: 48 m (157 ft 6 in)
Propulsion: 3 × MTU 4000 engines
2,720 bhp (2,028 kW)
water jet propulsion
Speed: 31.5 knots (58.3 km/h; 36.2 mph)
Range: 1,600 nmi (3,000 km; 1,800 mi) at 16 kn (30 km/h; 18 mph)
Complement: 35
Armament: 1 × 30 mm (1.2 in) CRN 91 Naval Gun

This takes the cake! An “Inshore Patrol Vessel” being sent about 200 Milles Out to Sea!

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