Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 13 Jan 2015 23:27
Spelling of 'martyrdom' is a sure giveaway , Where-elseAnujan wrote:Placards supporting the french terrorists. No awards for guessing where.
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Spelling of 'martyrdom' is a sure giveaway , Where-elseAnujan wrote:Placards supporting the french terrorists. No awards for guessing where.
Indian polity is mortally scared of sending army across the borders. Heck we are unable to send army across "WB" despite grave terror attacks what to talk of sending them to another country.SBajwa wrote:Tuvaluan!
Once again!!! We lost a god send opportunity to join the NATO in Afghanistan and circle the Bakis to finish them. Now they are back and will try to do it again!! The same old policy of Prithviraj Chauhan (and people before him) to not follow and finish the offender rather wait and watch!! Eventually if not destroyed Bakis will enslave us! So the best thing is to grab the tactical opportunities and at least move an inch towards a bakiless future? I guess you guys and long GOI also believe that a strong and prosperous bakistan is in India's interest!
Indian army will only work under Indian command. Only exception is the UN. This is a strategic and tactical choice.SBajwa wrote:Tuvaluan!
Once again!!! We lost a god send opportunity to join the NATO in Afghanistan and circle the Bakis to finish them. Now they are back and will try to do it again!! The same old policy of Prithviraj Chauhan (and people before him) to not follow and finish the offender rather wait and watch!! Eventually if not destroyed Bakis will enslave us! So the best thing is to grab the tactical opportunities and at least move an inch towards a bakiless future? I guess you guys and long GOI also believe that a strong and prosperous bakistan is in India's interest!
Paki nuclear threat doesn't change whether TSPA or good talibs control the nukes.SBajwa wrote:Let's wish that it is soon that Bakis lose their writ over entire territory but their bases and hope that they do not start distributing their nukes to their "good" talibs.
Paki are not aware that what Americano could not promise , Afghans have pledged to do so i.e t meet IA halfway across Pakjab. This is why GOI have allocated 20 Billion over next 10 years to be spend on the welfare of Afghan people looking for opportunity to meet and greet Pakianos.SBajwa wrote:Since 1947.
We lost opportunity in 1948 in Kashmir. (less than 10,000 dead to achieve the strategic goal of Baki destruction)We lost opportunity in 1965 in Sialkote/Lahore. (less than 50,000 dead to achieve the strategic goal of Baki destruction)Wso!! All I see is lost opportunities and excuses our people have been using since the times of Mahabharata!
ISLAMABAD: Sartaj Aziz on Tuesday said that the United States being an influential member of the international community could prevail upon India to work with Pakistan towards regional peace and economic prosperity.Aziz, Adviser to Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on National Security and Foreign Affairs, was addressing a press conference with US Secretary of State John Kerry in Islamabad.“The cancellation of foreign secretary level talks by India, followed by the recent incidents of unprovoked and indiscriminate firing on the Line of Control (LoC) and Working Boundary are a source of serious concern to Pakistan,” Aziz said.“We hope, therefore, that US as an influential member of the international community can prevail upon India to work with Pakistan towards regional peace and economic prosperity.”Secretary Kerry said that Prime Minister Nawaz deserved a lot of credit for his leadership in reaching out to his neighbours to develop peace and understanding. “I can't emphasise enough that it is profoundly in the interest of Pakistan and India to move their relationship forward,” he added.“This is the hardest time to work; it means you have to put a lot of time and effort into overcoming historical mistrust, past events and enmities that come from that history.
“We have to create a pact for sustainable peace through dialogue. We applaud the efforts to do so, we encourage both Pakistan and India to re-engage and the United States will do whatever it can to try to help in that effort,” Secretary Kerry said.ziz and Kerry agreed that peace and stability in Afghanistan was an essential pre-requisite for stability in Pakistan and in the region.“Secretary Kerry welcomed in his remarks the resolute steps initiated by Pakistan to counter the menace of terrorism through the National Action Plan and related measures,” Aziz said.Kerry said that the reality has never been clearer than on Dec 16. “The brutal murder of your children was felt by every parent and citizen in the United States. No one needed a reminder of Taliban’s disregard for human life and for freedom,” he said.
“Just as we stand with the people of France in its difficult hour, America will continue to stand with the people of Pakistan as they build a future that is free from the threat of violent extremism.“I welcome the strong consensus forged by Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and Pakistan's leaders about the importance of combating all terrorists and terror groups,” Kerry said.s.Kerry praised the reopening of the school in Peshawar where Taliban gunmen on Dec 16 slaughtered students and teachers in one of the country's worst terrorist attacks.The school reopened on Monday. Kerry called it a “testament” to the resolve of the Pakistani people. The US Secretary of State later visited General Headquarters (GHQ) in Rawalpindi to meet Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Raheel Sharif.
An Urgent Upcoming Undertaking For Urshed Uigher Urkin to Unskirt Ugly Useless Umpalumpa PoaqnukampaAyesha to release the Unsatisfied dogmatic Ust and earn world' gratitude.LokeshC wrote:^^^ (1) above can be simulated no? If a noook "from somewhere", "by someone who is friendly to India" can be ismuggled to Pindi and eggjploded after a rumor of bakee nooks going missing are announced. "The Fourth Protocol" style.
The Interview Man of NOKO needs Money and hopefully ready to rent few Patakhas for Poakroast Plug and Play game. No body will know if Its NOKO Or POKO Or CHOKO who caused ParLoko.LokeshC wrote:^^^ (1) above can be simulated no? If a noook "from somewhere", "by someone who is friendly to India" can be ismuggled to Pindi and eggjploded after a rumor of bakee nooks going missing are announced. "The Fourth Protocol" style.
NOKO, POKO Orr CHOKO, Sarre Mile Hue hain!!LokeshC wrote:ahhh.. thanks for the private key
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan must fight militant groups that threaten Afghan, Indian and US interests, US Secretary of State John Kerry said on Tuesday as he offered sympathy for the victims of last month’s massacre of children at a school in Peshawar.Visiting Pakistan after going to India at the weekend, Kerry said all militant groups should be targeted to bring security to the region. “Terror groups like the Pakistani and Afghan Taliban, the Haqqani network, Lashkar-e-Taiba and other groups continue to pose a threat to Pakistan, to its neighbours and to the United States,” Kerry told a news conference in Islamabad, listing some of the most feared groups. “And all of us have a responsibility to ensure that these groups do not gain a foothold but rather are pushed back into the recesses of (Pakistan’s) memory... Make no mistake. The task is a difficult one and it is not done.”Most US-led occupation forces in neighbouring Afghanistan officially completed their combat mission last month, prompting concern about the stability of the region where insurgents have been increasingly aggressive in past months. Following the attack on the Peshawar school in which 134 children were killed, Pakistan has promised to stop differentiating between “good” and “bad” militants and to step up operations against their hideouts on the Afghan border. Before leaving Pakistan for Geneva, where he is due to meet Iranian Foreign Minister Jawad Zarif, Kerry had been expected to travel to Peshawar to visit the victims but the plan was scrapped.“Kerry had hoped to make a brief trip to Peshawar to visit survivors of the school massacre recovering in a hospital there but weather concerns forced him to cancel,” said a senior State Department official. The United States identified Pakistan as a key partner in its “war against terror” following the September 11, 2001, attacks and spent billions of dollars on military aid to help the country fight insurgents. But there is growing consternation in Washington about continuing with the same level of assistance unless Pakistan provides evidence it is using the funds effectively to eliminate militants in its territory.Kerry said, however, Washington would provide an additional $250 million in food, shelter and other assistance to help people displaced by conflict in tribal areas. “We expect our defence forces to remain engaged in counterterrorism operations for some time in the foreseeable future,” said Foreign Affairs Adviser Sartaj Aziz. “Continuation of coalition support fund reimbursements are therefore a valuable support that must continue in the interests of both countries.” He reassured his counterpart that “action will be taken without discrimination against all groups”.
“Obviously, the proof is going to be in the pudding,” Kerry said. “It will be seen over the next days, weeks, months, how extensive and how successful this effort is going to be.” Aziz said, however, that the Haqqani group’s infrastructure had been “totally destroyed” as a result of the Pakistan Army’s operation in a tribal region that has long been regarded as a safe haven for militants. “Their ability to operate from here across to Afghanistan has virtually disappeared,” Aziz said.The United States will enhance security and intelligence support with Pakistan in fighting terrorism, John Kerry said. “We all have a responsibility to ensure that these extremists are no longer able to secure a foothold in this country or elsewhere,” Kerry said in a joint press conference with Sartaj Aziz, after conclusion of Pak-US Strategic Dialogue at the Foreign Office. The two-day talks in Islamabad covered in-depth discussions with focus on entire spectrum of bilateral relations and other issues of mutual interest including fight against terrorism.
Got to give credit to the Americans for realizing that Islamics are fundamentally stupid and will always fall for a few dollars thrown their was and claim that America's work is the same as Allah's work. That is what the Paki army does and the US knows it.Tuvaluan wrote:As expected the mofo Kerry just announced a $250 million aid to the pakis for "internally displaced persons" of which a major part is slated for cash disbursement, i.e, the money will not be accounted for, and will help the paki army funnel it towards anti-India terrorist groups -- this is the terrorist loving aholes in the US state dept. directly funding the paki army. Nothing changes in the US-Paki love affair, not even after "Al Qaeda" is found in pakiland.
Beghal (who was mentor/leader/recruiter/linked to all three Paris terrorists + wife fugitive) definitely had linke to AQ in Yemen as well as Abu Hamza.saip wrote:CNN is talking about Pakistan-Afghanistan connection to Paris terror attack. Sooner or later the Pakistani connection come up in every terror attack.
It had been claimed his distinctive features were the result of an explosion while he was taking part in a demining project in Jalalabad, Afghanistan.
But at his US trial Abu Hamza said it happened while he was working with the Pakistani military in Lahore when an experiment with explosives went wrong.
This guys is suspect since his Lahore yatra article. Has aak-thoo connection too.CRamS wrote:Guys, we need to watch this guy Ajai Shukla. Especially who is funding him, his trips etc. Because here he is once again on that traitor thappad's show debunking every nuance, every word of the defense ministers press conf on the Paki terror boat and making a mockery of the effort.
Had some interaction on twitterACM Tyagi declined to respond, but Col Ajai Shukla, a Track II member and its self-appointed spokesperson did. He was livid with anger but had no answers to our questions. So he called us all ‘communal scums’ and pointing to me wrote: “Amongst those with the most dubious credentials in this group is you. An IAS officer turned moralizer! What a combination, Sir-ji.”
SLAMABAD The Islamic State formally has opened for business in the crowded militant markets of Afghanistan and Pakistan, announcing in a video over the weekend that it’s established an organizational structure dominated by notoriously anti-Shiite-Muslim former commanders of the Pakistani Taliban.
THE finance minister has disclosed that an incremental expenditure of at least Rs110bn will be required this fiscal year to meet the expenses arising from the military’s Operation Zarb-i-Azb under way in North Waziristan and its larger fallout.Of this, he says, Rs75bn will be used for the operation and Rs35bn for IDPs, which presumably includes the cost of reconstruction in populated areas that have been destroyed by the bombing. This is an out-of-budget expense, meaning it was not programmed into the expenditure plan in June 2014. The fiscal deficit target, already under pressure from declining revenues, will probably need to be revised upwards, with commitments to the IMF and implications for the fiscal framework, and other areas of the budget from where resources will have to be freed up to pay for this incremental expenditure.But the finance minister must try and obtain greater disclosures from the military about how this money is being spent, even if those numbers are not to be made public. The government can afford this expense given the nature of the threat, but since it has ramifications for other areas of the budget, and because it is an off-budget item, it is important that there be at least some oversight to ensure that it is being spent wisely. The figure appears to suggest that the military operation may be larger than what we have been led to believe, both in its present execution as well as its future scope. Reportedly, two divisions are involved in the operation, and if their expenses can add up to such a huge sum then it is essential for the government to raise the right questions regarding these expenditures. If the costs of mobilising a small number of divisions can escalate so rapidly, then one wonders what the expenses would be in the event of a larger conflict, and how far the fiscal framework can sustain them. It is hoped that our rulers will focus on these concerns as they proceed with their plans.
In the past I would use such opportunities to start a pure propaganda thread on BRF on the lines of "Pakistan army's sacrifices for America"Tuvaluan wrote:Seems like the Paki army has started its game plan of pretending subcontinental variants of IS and Al Qaeda for their proxy wars against Afghanisthan and India, now that the older groups have changed focus. It will be interesting to see what this 'IS in pakistan" announces as its top priority -- if India is anywhere on the list, then the paki army is backing this Paki-IS without a doubt.
Not so fast. This view coming from his highness breaks the two nation theory yet again. If we can use this assertion in an international platform about how insecure "minority muslims" are in Pakistan, it can be leveraged to cut funds and slew of other punitive measures. The beggar will not get a penny and will receive a kick in guts by donors for family abuse. HH Dalai Lama has some clout with big agencies which work for "world peace". .We can make him a poster boy to target the Pakjabi majority.Vipul wrote:
“Pakistan is a Muslim country but Shias are not safe there. But Muslims are safe in India. The Shia community should come to India and (be) safe,” he said on Tuesday at a programme organised by the Presidency University in Kolkata. The Tibetan spiritual leader added that Indian Muslims can offer lessons in Sunni-Shia harmony as the Shias are safe in India.
An outsider is telling/advising others to flock to India.Time to kick this foreigner back to China.
We cannot ask all idiots and crooks to get out. There wont be anyone left to play. We must learn to use useful idiots against crooks and crooks against traitors, traitors against enemies.Vipul wrote:Dalai Lama has clout only with the international whisky/pasta gulping conference hoping clowns. When it comes to the real movers and shakers of the world - USA and China, he has zilch clout. He has no right to give any patronising sermon to India to accomadate the Paki Shia's. He should instead invite the Uighurs Muslims from Xinjiang to migrate to Tibet.
Does every American control every Pakistani? No.shiv wrote:As I see it there is one "attitudinal" issue that clouds thinking about US-Pakistan relations. That is the idea that American officials are all rich, very happy, content and uncorruptible and that Pakistanis are always begging, poor and corruptible. These are the exact attitudes that were created about the west and about the Orient in 200 years of Oriental studies and Indians also believe this. You can replace the name Pakistan with India and exactly the same attitudes hold.
What this blinkered view fails to reveal is that Pakistanis have managed to charm the pants off a large number of Americans. Americans are humans like everyone else and prone to the same fears and insecurities. Pakistanis pick even obscure Americans and treat them like royalty. I must mention over here another observation about "Orientalism" as it was propagated in Europe and in the west.
The Orient of books was a place of mystery and charm - the oriental woman quiet and submissive, and hot and sultry like the Orient itself. But the real political orient was one of a corrupt people who were inferior to European races who needed to be controlled. So there is a twin idea of the Orient that exists. Pakistanis play beautifully upon the former and twist Americans round their little fingers.
But we Indians, brought up to believe that Americans are upright and incorruptible while we Orientals are lazy and corrupt cannot believe this. Even today on BRF we find Indians making post after post after post that push exactly these stereotypes.
We will never find out how many American army and private contractors have become rich by cutting out working engines from vehicles and allowing the Taliban and Pakis to buy them at scrap rates while new engines are ordered from the US. But we think Americans are controlling Pakistan.
Colonization runs deep.
Please do not say that.Jivana wrote:Maybe The Tibetan spiritual leader can spin this to ask France, EU, anyone in The West to take them in
Exactly, We can have a Shiastan, Ahmedistan along with Sindh and Balochistan. We can even have "Moderate-Pakjabistan" and "Wannabe-Caliphatistan".Lisa wrote:Please do not say that.Jivana wrote:Maybe The Tibetan spiritual leader can spin this to ask France, EU, anyone in The West to take them in
Shias are unhappy.
They cannot live as a minority in that majority,
so
Partition pukistan!
I have been meaning to comment on this aspect after watching many American commentators on Indian-US relations but kept forgetting.johneeG wrote:a) cold-war politics(Bhaarath joined with Soviets, so Pakistan was taken under the wing of US).