Bomb Blast in Bangalore

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 28 Dec 2014 20:18

~~3 killed~~ Two injured- bomb blast on Church Street
Breaking news on local channels

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 28 Dec 2014 20:25

To non Bangalore folks - that's a real popular hang out place close to CBD, especially on the weekends. TV9 reporting the explosion was close to Coconut Grove restaurant.

member_28108 · Post by **member_28108** » 28 Dec 2014 20:27

Yes and more injured.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 28 Dec 2014 20:33

As per reports 2 min ago - Two injured, one serious (a lady). No deaths

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 28 Dec 2014 20:56

NDTV was saying it was low intensity IED. A pipe bomb?

mraghu · Post by **mraghu** » 28 Dec 2014 21:26

definitely not, as the blast was on the opp side of the coconut grove hotel. Already MN Reddi has indicated it was an low intensity IED

member_28108 · Post by **member_28108** » 28 Dec 2014 21:26

ChandraV wrote:Ten to one, this was a cylinder blast or some such thing. I don't think this has any terror angle. Let us see.

On the road? They have shown a mobile camera recording of the site.

kish · Post by **kish** » 28 Dec 2014 21:31

ChandraV wrote:Ten to one, this was a cylinder blast or some such thing. I don't think this has any terror angle. Let us see.

Bangalore cops say, its an IED blast. Both the injured are treated for 'shrapnel' injuries, doesn't look like a 'cylinder blast'. 10 to 1 its a 'lone wolf jihadi' attack which the US has been warning western countries.

mraghu · Post by **mraghu** » 28 Dec 2014 22:10

The lady is dead

abhik · Post by **abhik** » 28 Dec 2014 23:15

I doubt a lone wolf without any sort of previous training would be able to make bombs, even 'low intensity'. Most of the ISIS inspired lone wolf attacks have been stabbings, shootings(where guns are more accessible) or even running over people with cars.

Rishi · Post by **Rishi** » 28 Dec 2014 23:37

Yasin Bhatkal cell reactivated?

ravip · Post by **ravip** » 29 Dec 2014 00:02

No sources say it was carried out by SIMI group which escaped from MP jail. Shame that the MP govt allowed the jail breakout. Consequences are far reaching and continuing.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 29 Dec 2014 00:17

I think this is response for arresting that b@$turd biswas? Time to narrow down, and do a hot pursuit on any leads. arrest more than necessary, and keep them under 'charged as guilty until proven innocent'.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 29 Dec 2014 00:25

mraghu wrote:The lady is dead

38-year-old Bhavani Devi, a resident of Mount Road in Chennai, died in the blast. She had come to Bangalore four days ago to celebrate Christmas with her family and was with her two daughters and eight other family members when the blast occurred.
RIP Bhavani Devi.

partha · Post by **partha** » 29 Dec 2014 01:01

ChandraV wrote:Could it have an angle to "revenge" for Mehdi arrest?

Rishi wrote:Yasin Bhatkal cell reactivated?

Maybe they are testing security preparedness in Bangalore with a low risk attack with a bigger attack in mind? Interestingly, all bomb blasts in Bangalore and around so far have been low intensity ones. Chennapatna blasts, Koramangala serial blasts, BJP office bomb blast in Malleshwaram during elections.

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 29 Dec 2014 03:56

In australia, there is a warning. In poodlistan there is a warning. In Cheese-eatistan there is a warning. Not to mention unkilistan. The warning is seemingly sane people will take uighar style knives, pipes, fire crackers, scooters, cars, whatever at civilian types. In France, they succeeded a few times. In Israel they succeeded a few times. In poodlistan they succeeded a few times, ones even an off duty serviceman.

Two plus two equals a strategy that using an unsuspected single person with less threatening and less damaging goods causes greater distrust and sows the seeds of division. It is the shoe/underwear bomber revisited. ~~Indian~~ pakistani extremists were bound to poick up on it sooner or later. It deniability is higher unless the act fails. Its visibility is higher -- non-violent man went boom due to all injustices ala new yolk piggies incident.

The shoe bomber succeeded in making airports temples where everybody took thgeir shoes off, but nobody bothered with investigating everyone's posterior. Lets see where these events take us. Conspiracy theories will arise aplenty.

abhischekcc · Post by **abhischekcc** » 29 Dec 2014 10:40

ChandraV wrote:Ten to one, this was a cylinder blast or some such thing. I don't think this has any terror angle. Let us see.

If it was a cylinder blast, it would have been accompanied by a raging fire.

abhischekcc · Post by **abhischekcc** » 29 Dec 2014 10:44

Small blast with shrapnel definitely indicates a lone jihadi suffering from 'Sudden Jihad Syndrome'. Someone with low/no amount of training or trained with his father or uncle (both can be the same person).

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 29 Dec 2014 10:46

This is a place I sometimes go to with my family. Too close for comfort.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 29 Dec 2014 18:46

They said on TV that its an ammonium nitrate bomb with small spheres. They think by modus operandi its SIMI. Police bandobust is pretty good. Noted car numbers and other details of those exiting city.

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 29 Dec 2014 19:13

Beta testing?

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 29 Dec 2014 19:50

ramana wrote:They said on TV that its an ammonium nitrate bomb with small spheres. They think by modus operandi its SIMI. Police bandobust is pretty good. Noted car numbers and other details of those exiting city.

So fertilizer with small ball bearings appear to have been used. Probably in a pressure cooker or pipe. Are there any tracer elements added to fertilizer in India to indicate where it was made and retailer sold to?

ravip · Post by **ravip** » 29 Dec 2014 23:26

No pipe or cooker was used. Just nails tightly wrapped with cloth with ammonium nitrate and a trigger with timer and battery.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 30 Dec 2014 03:25

^^^Then it doesn't sound like it was well planned. More of an impromptu let's make some dhamaka type of event. Had these materials been in pressure cooker to pipe, the blast damage would have been greater.

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 30 Dec 2014 03:32

The thing with Bangalore is, all our "mall areas" are old style village shopping centers (Bazars) where population density is high by design. So even a impromptu "sudden jihad syndrome" jihadi might hit a bulls-eye because the bulls-eye is as big as a 10 acre plot filled with 50,000 people.Even if the shrapnels are absorbed by people in the immediate vicinity who end up dying at the spot, there will be 10 times more casualties with the accompanying stampede.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 30 Dec 2014 05:08

"sudden jihad syndrome" - or SOS - Sudden Osama Syndrome

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 30 Dec 2014 07:46

A pipe bomb, say experts - The Hindu

Forensic experts have confirmed that the explosive used in Sunday’s Church Street blast was an eight-inch aluminium pipe bomb.

“Investigation is looking into whether the terror attack was the handiwork of [a] fugitive SIMI module,” Chief Minister Siddaramiah said here on Monday.

Investigators said the blast bore similarities with the Chennai Central Station attack in May, and a blast in Pune in July.

Investigators also found a small piece of paper with a Warangal number on it. The number is being verified, and a police team has left for Andhra Pradesh.

Police are looking for clues in images from 11 CCTV cameras in the vicinity of the blast. Police teams from Maharashtra, Madhya Pradesh and Tamil Nadu have joined the Bangalore police in the investigations, in addition to the National Investigation Agency.

Security agencies suspect the involvement of a SIMI module of five activists who had escaped from Madhya Pradesh’s Khandwa district jail in October 2013.

According to sources, there had been a specific intelligence alert from the Intelligence Bureau in the first week of December alerting the State that two of the five fugitives were last seen in Hosapete of Ballari district in September.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 30 Dec 2014 10:25

The CM is behaving like a joker when he says that there was "no intel failure".Nevertheless,one simply cannot prevent every act of terror as small cells acting independent of larger groups are difficult to trace.The pipe bomb tactic is exactly what the Al Umma crowd used in large number in the Coimbatore blasts 15+ years ago. There was some media reports fairly recently about the resurgence of this outfit,or some having escaped the dragnet. Kerala is the state where there is a lot of activity by local Islamist groups who have access to firang funding and indoctrination given the large minority population there.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 30 Dec 2014 14:02

Philip wrote:The CM is behaving like a joker when he says that there was "no intel failure".Nevertheless,one simply cannot prevent every act of terror as small cells acting independent of larger groups are difficult to trace.The pipe bomb tactic is exactly what the Al Umma crowd used in large number in the Coimbatore blasts 15+ years ago. There was some media reports fairly recently about the resurgence of this outfit,or some having escaped the dragnet. Kerala is the state where there is a lot of activity by local Islamist groups who have access to firang funding and indoctrination given the large minority population there.

An equally cruel joke is the claim that the bomb was designed to create panic. wtf? It was designed to murder.

ravip · Post by **ravip** » 30 Dec 2014 16:28

Philip wrote:The CM is behaving like a joker when he says that there was "no intel failure".Nevertheless,one simply cannot prevent every act of terror as small cells acting independent of larger groups are difficult to trace.The pipe bomb tactic is exactly what the Al Umma crowd used in large number in the Coimbatore blasts 15+ years ago. There was some media reports fairly recently about the resurgence of this outfit,or some having escaped the dragnet. Kerala is the state where there is a lot of activity by local Islamist groups who have access to firang funding and indoctrination given the large minority population there.

He said so when a media person asked him 'whether there was any failure on your part, because IB is saying it had given warning'. In this context he said there was no failure on Intel as there was no specific intelligence by IB. The warning was general in the view of festive season. He further stated that 'this a common question everyone is asking' 'so there is no Intel faliure'. He tries to speak in English even though he is not good at. Because of this there is chance for wrong interpretation. You have to see the press brief video then you will understand.

As to the comment on 'panic', he said that in the context of the bomb being low intensity, more over it was aimed at creating panic than to kill many people.

The present govt is far better than the earlier one. Most blast's took place in the tenure of earlier govt, they changed the hierarchy of police by over looking some of the police officers for adgp promotion, they brought caste factor in to promotion. One fellow was promoted out of turn to dg&igp just because he was from majority community. The department was run by yeddy sons, who brought it to its knees because of infighting's and favoritism.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 30 Dec 2014 16:41

ravip wrote:
As to the comment on 'panic', he said that in the context of the bomb being low intensity, more over it was aimed at creating panic than to kill many people.

That is a disingenuous comment. How many people need to die before a bomb blast changes from one designed to "cause panic" rather than one designed to kill. That bomb was a killer. Just because only one person died does not make it a "mild terrorist attack". Did the man mean that this bomb was not "terrorism" but simply "panicism"?

If it was terrorism, are their two grades of terrorism, one designed emerly to cause panic and the other designed to cause something else? To me it sounds like the detached attitude of a person in Vidhan Soudha. Does he want to see 25 dead before he calls it terror because that would be more likely to take some skin off his nose. This is just a little common or garden "panic bomb"

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 30 Dec 2014 18:04

When the blast took place, ever the "secular" Siddarammiah was in the notorious coastal Karnataka town of Bhatkal. He was reassuring the ummah how his government will protect the minorities from the so called saffron communal parties. If it were upto him, he would give Mehdi Biswas the 'Karnataka Ratna' award. No amount of specific intelligence can help such governments. As for his comments on the bomb being planted to "create panic and not kill", deaths of regular citizenry dont qualify as terrorism or war for these folks. Remember MH Home minister RR Patil's comments post 26/11 when he said "These things happen in big cities". Our politicians have long lost any semblance of humanity.

ravip · Post by **ravip** » 30 Dec 2014 23:34

Ambar wrote:When the blast took place, ever the "secular" Siddarammiah was in the notorious coastal Karnataka town of Bhatkal. He was reassuring the ummah how his government will protect the minorities from the so called saffron communal parties. If it were upto him, he would give Mehdi Biswas the 'Karnataka Ratna' award. No amount of specific intelligence can help such governments. As for his comments on the bomb being planted to "create panic and not kill", deaths of regular citizenry dont qualify as terrorism or war for these folks. Remember MH Home minister RR Patil's comments post 26/11 when he said "These things happen in big cities". Our politicians have long lost any semblance of humanity.

Don't be arrogant for sake of being it. Most of all you are ignorant about facts. He was not in bhatkal but in mysuru. On Sundays it is in practice that elected representatives should visit there constituencies. So the home minister was in kodagu and CM in mysuru. It seems for you every congress politician is a secular terrorist or what ever. If this is the scale that you measure them, by the same scale what do you have to call shivaraj Singh chouhan who helped 5 simi terrorist to escape from jail or modi who called army is law onto itself.

Leave aside hatred towards politicians when it is not warranted, what did you do better than them to crib about there work. It may seem fancy to critic anything & everything.

He used the word 'panic' when he was deducing a difference between a large scale attack and a attack which is carried out signify terrorist presence.But such deduction in anway doesn't take away the importance of the attack. I think it is to much to deduce that every word from a congress men as supporting terrorism and similarly every word from BJP men are in nation's interest.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 31 Dec 2014 00:26

ravip wrote:
Ambar wrote:When the blast took place, ever the "secular" Siddarammiah was in the notorious coastal Karnataka town of Bhatkal. He was reassuring the ummah how his government will protect the minorities from the so called saffron communal parties. If it were upto him, he would give Mehdi Biswas the 'Karnataka Ratna' award. No amount of specific intelligence can help such governments. As for his comments on the bomb being planted to "create panic and not kill", deaths of regular citizenry dont qualify as terrorism or war for these folks. Remember MH Home minister RR Patil's comments post 26/11 when he said "These things happen in big cities". Our politicians have long lost any semblance of humanity.

Don't be arrogant for sake of being it. Most of all you are ignorant about facts. He was not in bhatkal but in mysuru. On Sundays it is in practice that elected representatives should visit there constituencies. So the home minister was in kodagu and CM in mysuru. It seems for you every congress politician is a secular terrorist or what ever. If this is the scale that you measure them, by the same scale what do you have to call shivaraj Singh chouhan who helped 5 simi terrorist to escape from jail or modi who called army is law onto itself.

Leave aside hatred towards politicians when it is not warranted, what did you do better than them to crib about there work. It may seem fancy to critic anything & everything.

He used the word 'panic' when he was deducing a difference between a large scale attack and a attack which is carried out signify terrorist presence.But such deduction in anway doesn't take away the importance of the attack. I think it is to much to deduce that every word from a congress men as supporting terrorism and similarly every word from BJP men are in nation's interest.

Good show, ravip, ji. You have hit the nail on the head.More power to you.

We also need great CMs like siddrammiah ji too.
It is always ever so dutiful, conscientious, responsible, dedicated, devoted, faithful, loyal and attentive of him to be in Mysuru on the day of the sabbath, forsaking even his solitary day of well deserved of rest to humbly serve his people. But all is not lost. He efficiently makes up lost time by sleeping in the Vidhan soudha even as silly folks try to disrupt his well earned rest. He has to save his strength for more important matters of state like inaugurating memorials or else how will the people of the state reward him during the next bout at the hustings.

He has had a very stressful week having had a very minor setback in trying to pass secular laws to take over inefficient religious mutts run by evil and kommunal pontiffs. He needs to be with his caring electorate and the comforting bosom of his forgiving and loving people to assuage the hurt and despair he rightfully feels at being thwarted by kommunal fellows again. After all, he is answerable, is he not, if not to the people of Karnataka, to a higher power in Delhi and perhaps in far away foreign lands in europe.

Secularism is the very foundation of this country and in a democracy few people understand that even a terrorist has his right to propagate his "religion" by playfully scaring the local populace every now and then with some minor dhamakas signifying, as you so brilliantly put it to " signify terrorist presence ".

It also serves to keeps the police on their toes and the citizens alert and this is a well intentioned outcome by the considerate terrorists because in a democracy if one is not alert then one wakes up in the morning to discover that ones birthright has legislated away, no??

If some poor soul from chennai has unfortunately lost her life, then the fearless leader will simply take it in his masterful stride. He is anyway preoccupied with far greater matters like cow slaughter bills and the film fraternity. He smilingly bears this heavy cross of secular duty in the soft, caressing light of the crescent moon and carries on manfully with his weighty burden of political office blessed as ever by powers that be from Delhi.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 31 Dec 2014 04:04

ravip wrote:
Don't be arrogant for sake of being it. Most of all you are ignorant about facts. He was not in bhatkal but in mysuru. On Sundays it is in practice that elected representatives should visit there constituencies. So the home minister was in kodagu and CM in mysuru. It seems for you every congress politician is a secular terrorist or what ever. If this is the scale that you measure them, by the same scale what do you have to call shivaraj Singh chouhan who helped 5 simi terrorist to escape from jail or modi who called army is law onto itself.

Leave aside hatred towards politicians when it is not warranted, what did you do better than them to crib about there work. It may seem fancy to critic anything & everything.

He used the word 'panic' when he was deducing a difference between a large scale attack and a attack which is carried out signify terrorist presence.But such deduction in anway doesn't take away the importance of the attack. I think it is to much to deduce that every word from a congress men as supporting terrorism and similarly every word from BJP men are in nation's interest.

Corrected. The day before the blast, Siddu was in secular islamic republic of Bhatkal at 'Majlis-e-islah wa tanzeem' assuring the "minorities" that the govt was committed to support them. Ofcourse, when not attending tanzeems, he joins the archbishop in condemning conversions back to hinduism never questioning the revered archbishop about unabated conversions by his church . And yes it must be a great solace to the family of the lady who got her head blown that it was just a "panic bomb" and not a large scale attack to kill hundreds. Surely it must be reassuring to the people of Bangalore that the attack was only to signify a peaceful terrorist's presence who has no intentions of a large scale attack - whatever that means. And yes, this is all equal-equal to Modi supporting our armed forces.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 31 Dec 2014 04:04

Duplicate post halaaled

ravip · Post by **ravip** » 31 Dec 2014 23:46

chetak wrote: Good show, ravip, ji. You have hit the nail on the head.More power to you.

We also need great CMs like siddrammiah ji too.
It is always ever so dutiful, conscientious, responsible, dedicated, devoted, faithful, loyal and attentive of him to be in Mysuru on the day of the sabbath, forsaking even his solitary day of well deserved of rest to humbly serve his people. But all is not lost. He efficiently makes up lost time by sleeping in the Vidhan soudha even as silly folks try to disrupt his well earned rest. He has to save his strength for more important matters of state like inaugurating memorials or else how will the people of the state reward him during the next bout at the hustings.

He has had a very stressful week having had a very minor setback in trying to pass secular laws to take over inefficient religious mutts run by evil and kommunal pontiffs. He needs to be with his caring electorate and the comforting bosom of his forgiving and loving people to assuage the hurt and despair he rightfully feels at being thwarted by kommunal fellows again. After all, he is answerable, is he not, if not to the people of Karnataka, to a higher power in Delhi and perhaps in far away foreign lands in europe.

Secularism is the very foundation of this country and in a democracy few people understand that even a terrorist has his right to propagate his "religion" by playfully scaring the local populace every now and then with some minor dhamakas signifying, as you so brilliantly put it to " signify terrorist presence ".

It also serves to keeps the police on their toes and the citizens alert and this is a well intentioned outcome by the considerate terrorists because in a democracy if one is not alert then one wakes up in the morning to discover that ones birthright has legislated away, no??

If some poor soul from chennai has unfortunately lost her life, then the fearless leader will simply take it in his masterful stride. He is anyway preoccupied with far greater matters like cow slaughter bills and the film fraternity. He smilingly bears this heavy cross of secular duty in the soft, caressing light of the crescent moon and carries on manfully with his weighty burden of political office blessed as ever by powers that be from Delhi.

Its not that I have to defend siddaramaiah hear but I can't let go without replying to your rant. So you have collectively sumed up your diatribe against Karnataka cm. So who according to you is the alternative? Who ever it is I don't give a damn until the government is not involved in corruption. So let's come to your allegations against him

1. Mutt bill- factually your are wrong on who brought such a bill. It was the BJP-JDS led government in 2007 filed an affidavit before the Hon'ble Supreme court saying that they would enact a law to bring mutts under government regulation. Consequently a committee was formed headed by RamaJoish,Former Judge High of Karnataka. Who in his report recommend this bill and as to why it was tabled now before assembly because on 15 January there is a hearing on this matter where in the govt has to submit the status report. So now who is secular?

2. Sleeping in assembly: he has more than once told that he is suffering from sleep apnea, if you have a problem with that I wonder why you don't have with this

3.hypocrisy- you don't have any problem when modi inaugurates one after the other but why only with???

4. Cow salughter omg!!! It is not only muslims who eat beef but there are many dalits who also eat beef. So what to do,how to protect their food habits any suggessitions????

He is an elected representative of Karnataka Consequently elected as CM, people have given him mandate. so even if you don't like him but you have to respect his position.

I can go on but time is precious, don't want to waste on rant.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 31 Dec 2014 23:55

ravip ji, indeed. congress has been the best thing ever for indian national security and siddaji is a paragon of duty and foresight. your passionate defence of him is as laudable as your impassioned commentary about antony, sonia maino and the rest after which you then decided you were mistaken (as if!). with patriots of the INC around this nation was in safe hands.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 01 Jan 2015 00:06

1. Mutt bill ..

Point is in secular country the govt can not and should not control temples. Rest is just abuse of power.

ravip · Post by **ravip** » 01 Jan 2015 06:17

^^^BJP or its cronies are much worse than UPA in our state.