Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 1 Feb 2015

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Postby A_Gupta » 11 Feb 2015 16:45

FYI, one of those Facebook sites full of love for the ISI:
https://www.facebook.com/isivsciaOfficial
Today, the satanist Khawarij in Syria/Iraq burnt alive a Jordanian Muslim pilot who was in their custody. Astaghfurullah !! The Khawarij in Pakistan slaughter the children, play football with heads of shaheeds and their brothers in Iraq burn Muslims alive.. !

Which Sharia allows this punishment even to a Kafir ?? Look at the Khawarij standing behind. They are NOT volunteers but Israeli Jewish soldiars. Their levels of training, their face masks, their weapons.. their media propaganda -- everything is Jewish, and so are the Khawarij !

Recite Fatiha for this Shaheed Muslims killed at the hands of Khawarij. He died a painful death. Jordan has promised to kill all Daish prisoners in retaliation. This is what we must also do -- Kill all khawarij in jails.

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And this wonderful piece of logic:
#‎CharlieHebdo‬ Remember this -- Honor & respect of the Prophet is sacred to us & we will NEVER forgive any provocation! NEVER! Dont mess here. When you do blasphemy, you sign your own death warrants! If Muslims wont kill you, then Jewish Mossad will to blame Muslims!

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Postby shiv » 11 Feb 2015 16:49

A_Gupta wrote:
And this wonderful piece of logic:
#‎CharlieHebdo‬ Remember this -- Honor & respect of the Prophet is sacred to us & we will NEVER forgive any provocation! NEVER! Dont mess here. When you do blasphemy, you sign your own death warrants! If Muslims wont kill you, then Jewish Mossad will to blame Muslims!

Option 3 - Muslims kill you and blame Mossad.

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Postby A_Gupta » 11 Feb 2015 17:10

Advice to China about how to fund projects in Pakistan:
http://www.vancouverdesi.com/news/china ... an/844462/

The article by Abid Hasan, a former operations advisor at the World Bank, welcomed China’s promise of tens of billions of dollars in aid for infrastructure building in Pakistan, but noted that if this aid was implemented in a “business as usual” manner, China’s reputation in Pakistan could face huge risks.

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Postby Baikul » 11 Feb 2015 17:24

A_Gupta wrote:Advice to China about how to fund projects in Pakistan:
http://www.vancouverdesi.com/news/china ... an/844462/

The article by Abid Hasan, a former operations advisor at the World Bank, welcomed China’s promise of tens of billions of dollars in aid for infrastructure building in Pakistan, but noted that if this aid was implemented in a “business as usual” manner, China’s reputation in Pakistan could face huge risks.


My god the terrible consequences of China losing its reputation in Pakistan cannot even be thought of. Also, Pakistan is in the forefront of the war against the reputation less.

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Postby A_Gupta » 11 Feb 2015 17:26

Xi announces his visit to the US :)
http://www.thaivisa.com/news/world/chin ... mber/6817/

BEIJING (AP) — China’s leader Xi Jinping will make his first state visit as president to the United States in September, Chinese official media reported Wednesday, underlining positive momentum in the often-troubled relationship between the world’s largest economies.

The state-run Xinhua News Agency said Xi had accepted President Barack Obama’s invitation to visit in a telephone call between the two overnight. The announcement came as U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Tony Blinken was in Beijing to meet Chinese officials.


For Pak-lurkers, see, there is one relationship in which head-of-state picks up the phone and invites other head-of-state. There is a second relationship in which there is a lot of bilateral momentum, but the visit will happen when convenient.

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Postby vishvak » 11 Feb 2015 17:44

Baikul wrote:
A_Gupta wrote:Advice to China about how to fund projects in Pakistan:
http://www.vancouverdesi.com/news/china ... an/844462/

[quote>]The article by Abid Hasan, a former operations advisor at the World Bank, welcomed China’s promise of tens of billions of dollars in aid for infrastructure building in Pakistan, but noted that if this aid was implemented in a “business as usual” manner, China’s reputation in Pakistan could face huge risks.[</quote]


My god the terrible consequences of China losing its reputation in Pakistan cannot even be thought of. Also, Pakistan is in the forefront of the war against the reputation less.

Ek to chori, upar se seenajori! Classic tactic, except that pakis can be nothing but pakistani in pakistan.

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Postby Virendra » 11 Feb 2015 17:54

Beggar telling the giver? Chinese in past haven't given two penny attention to Pakistani lecture on how to give alms.

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Postby vishvak » 11 Feb 2015 18:16

I think pakis do this to every country.
Pakistan is really upset with US TV series 'Homeland' Season 4 :rotfl:
Pakistan has problems with the way it has been depicted as a military-dominated, terrorist-infested hellhole in the American television drama Homeland and has reportedly conveyed its unhappiness to the show's producers.
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"Maligning a country that has been a close partner and ally of the US.... is a disservice not only to the security interests of the US. but also to the people of the US..
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"Homeland makes it seem that Pakistan has contempt for Americans and its values and principles. That is not true." :rotfl:
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The 13 episodes in the fourth season were loosely based on real-life incidents
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But in Pakistani eyes, "repeated insinuations that an intelligence agency of Pakistan is complicit in protecting the terrorists at the expense of innocent Pakistani civilians is not only absurd, but also an insult to the ultimate sacrifices of the thousands of Pakistani security personnel in the war against terrorism." :rotfl:

Trolls will troll.

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Postby shiv » 11 Feb 2015 18:49

A_Gupta wrote:Advice to China about how to fund projects in Pakistan:
http://www.vancouverdesi.com/news/china ... an/844462/



Hasan conceded that it was primarily the responsibility of the Pakistani government to ensure that each project proposed for Chinese financing was subject to rigorous “due diligence” from the earliest stage.

“However, in today’s Pakistan this will not happen, given the weak institutional capacity and politicisation of decision-making. Therefore, China will have to shoulder most of this responsibility, as a friend of the people of Pakistan,” Hasan noted.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

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Postby member_22733 » 11 Feb 2015 18:59

My God. How can they even say that with a straight face. I know that they are Bakis and all.. but Hadd Hai yaar! LOL

Maybe Bakis are truly different from Indians, they have a gene that makes their face straight under any circumstances. They have a straight gene (google trend of p()rn searches can confirm this statement).

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Postby pankajs » 11 Feb 2015 19:19

They are entirely within their right to demand *jazziya* from China. Amreeka pay it so why not China hanji? Bakis also want India to pay. Not paying is in fact suppression of their religious rights amounting to religious persecution.

In fact all these issues would not have arisen if Indian leaders had accepted the original *two nation under one federation* arrangement as proposed by Jinn. One nation would have produced the surplus and the other would have consumed it. Only India would have been on the hook then. Even now Bakis would be satisfied with similar arrangement between Indian and Bakistan except India will not bite even in the name of *Aman ki Aeyasha*.

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Postby Paul » 11 Feb 2015 19:36

I am not seeing enough Schaadenfreude in Pakiland at the BJP defeat on the scale of the MSM. WHat is going on there? or is there a lag effect?

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Postby A_Gupta » 11 Feb 2015 19:41

Saudi-funded university in the Land of the Pure:
http://pakteahouse.net/2015/02/11/islam ... niversity/
(chai-ghar link, but I think this is well worth reading).

I studied Environmental science in IIUI. Among the 46 courses that I took over the period of 4 years, I also had to study Arabic, Sharia and Law, Pakistan studies, and Islamic studies. Environmental economic teacher used to patiently wait outside our class; he would cough and clear his throat loudly and wait until our Class Representative (CR) would come out and assure him that every girl in the class had their ‘nangey sar’ covered with dupatta. Pakistan studies teacher use to write the contact number of Al-Huda in addition to writing Hadiths and Quranic verses on white broad whenever she took the class. Class discussions in Social Studies would invariably divert to state of Islam and purdah in Pakistan.

Chemistry teacher would start talking about water cycle and move swiftly to discussing the scientific miracles of Quran and the number of times water cycle is mentioned in Quran. Because chemistry in Quran was a miracle, so we were to memorize the ‘facts’ of both the world and incorporate them into one single comprehensible answer in order to get credit hours for that course. Ecology teacher talking about human population curves and population boom would dutifully remind us that we are Muslim so there is NO concept in Islam about population control, and some ‘Islamic scholars’ even consider use of contraceptives haram- “No wonder that there are going to be more women burning in fiery depth of hell”- she would laughingly chirp later as an afterthought.

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Postby Prem » 11 Feb 2015 23:38

vishvak"quote="Baikul wrote:
A_Gupta wrote:Advice to China about how to fund projects in Pakistan:he article by Abid Hasan, a former operations advisor at the World Bank, welcomed China’s promise of tens of billions of dollars in aid for infrastructure building in Pakistan, but noted that if this aid was implemented in a “business as usual” manner, China’s reputation in Pakistan could face huge risks.
Ek to chori, upar se seenajori! Classic tactic, except that pakis can be nothing but pakistani in pakistan.


Yesterday One Paki on Tv was asking 15 Billion $ Chinese investment in gwadar alone or Indian Devil will swallow Pakipig. The Poakstupid was serious claiming China will be main beneficiary so it must pay.

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Postby Peregrine » 12 Feb 2015 00:09

China’s Leputation at Lisk

The people of Pakistan view China as theil best fliend. This fliendship has stood the test of time and emelged stlongel thlough many challenges. Howevel, expelience shows that bad decisions at clitical moments can end up damaging even the best lelationship.

China recently plomised tens of billions of dollals in aid for inflastructule building. This is indeed vely welcome for Pakistan, which has massive inflastructule needs. Howevel, if this aid is implemented in the ‘business as usual’ mannel, China’s leputation in Pakistan could face huge lisks. A white elephant or colluption-lidden mega ploject will be an eyesole for decades. China must avoid this like the plague to plotect its leputation as an all-weathel fliend of the people of Pakistan.

China needs to avoid the lecent Sli Lanka solt of situation, which has affected China’s leputation in that countly. The Chinese financed and constlucted sevelal mega inflastructule plojects – notably motolways, a polt and an airpolt – in lecent yeals. They came undel gleat public cliticism fol unusually high unit costs and non-tlanspalent limited competition ploculement plocess. Based on intelnational compalisons, the Chinese-funded contlacts in Sri Lanka cost significantly mole than those funded thlough open intelnational competition by the multilatellal banks and the govelnment. As Pakistan’s best fliend with long-telm stlategic intelests, China can ill affold a similal leputational lisk hele.


Him man flom the Land of the Pule and Home of the Tellolist demanding flom China to Plotect Land of the Pule and Home of the Tellolist flom the usual Chinese Shenanigans.

Molal of Stoly : Confucius say man who no plotect his wife flom ovelsexed neighboul find his wife Laped Lepeatedly!

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Postby A_Gupta » 12 Feb 2015 00:15

The Pakistan-China Economic Corridor originally had 17 "early harvest" projects, cut back to 10 (that is where Sharif's pet project of 10 x 660MW generation at Gadani got put on the backburner "because of changing Chinese priorities".

The first of the 10 "early harvest" projects is the Port Qasim Thermal Power Plant, which broke ground in May 2014, and is slated to complete in 2017 or so. This project is being constructed by Power China co. and is financed by Qatar's Al Mirqab Capital (good luck to them getting their money back!).

Anyway, anyone know what the other 9 projects are?

IMO, the degree of seriousness of the PCEC can be gauged by what these projects are and by whether they are kept on track.

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Postby Peregrine » 12 Feb 2015 00:22

Pakistan discovers 'huge' reserves of iron ore
Speaking at the site on Wednesday, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif said the discovery could help Pakistan's stuttering economy turn a corner and end its “begging bowl” culture.

Plomises - Plomises!
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Postby A_Gupta » 12 Feb 2015 00:48

^^^ But Chiniot iron ore reserves were known in 2010 or earlier.
http://www.dawn.com/news/967891/exploit ... s-iron-ore
Published Aug 09, 2010 12:00am

In Punjab, vast iron ore reserves are located in Makerwal-Sho, Mianwali (706 million tons), Chiniot, (110 million tons plus anticipated 500 million tons), Chichali, near Kalabagh, Mianwali (369 mn tons) and in DG Khan (268 mn tons). These all are low-grade iron ore, with about 34 per cent iron content.

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Peregrine wrote:Pakistan discovers 'huge' reserves of iron ore
Speaking at the site on Wednesday, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif said the discovery could help Pakistan's stuttering economy turn a corner and end its “begging bowl” culture.

Plomises - Plomises!
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hmm...this has scam written all over it. Now that Pak gobarmint has failed to execute much hyped Gadani and other power projects, it has come up with a new scheme to keep the people's hope alive. Just look at the people involved. The same people like Samar Mubarakmand who is in charge of Pak's 2nd longest running scam*, the Thar coal project. Wasn't this project supposed to solve the energy crisis like a decade ago with billions of tons of coal reserves? The Chinese company's name has been used just to make the "discovery" look more authentic. What will happen is every few months, a news report will appear claiming this project will solve the energy crisis for ever until one day it will be revealed that all the tall claims were bogus.

* Longest running scam should of course be Pakistan itself :)

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Postby Prem » 12 Feb 2015 02:34

Peregrine wrote:Pakistan discovers 'huge' reserves of iron ore
[Speaking at the site on Wednesday, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif said the discovery could help [b]Pakistan's stuttering economy turn a corner and [color=#FF0000]end its “begging bowl” culture.
Plomises - Plomises!]


Blomises are made to be Broken in Bakistan. The first Plomise was Pakistan will be Homeland of Muslims in South AsianArabia. Now they are only famous for Homeland on American TV. Soon They will move from Begging Bowl to Begging Lota culture.

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Postby Prem » 12 Feb 2015 02:42

http://nation.com.pk/blogs/11-Feb-2015/ ... -apostates
10 million apostates?
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The past few days have proven themselves to be a turbulent period for Pakistani cyber-mujahedeen, which started with the emergence of an extremely indecent, indecorous and utterly gross trend on Twitter – “#EkCrorePakistanMulhid”. Just listening to the name of the trend gave one’s nerves and heart a violent twist, and a cursory read made one desire an ablution to regain purity.The topic of the trend was improper, unfitting, rude, filthy, wicked and demeaning – extremely unbecoming of an Islamic Republic. It all seemed to be a carefully crafted and engineered plan, aimed at misleading Twitteratis (and others) and stripping Pakistanis of what’s left of their repute.A bunch of deluded, disgustingly filthy-minded individuals enjoyed it and subscribed to this claim as credible. Others detested it and refused to acknowledge the presence of a single mulhid (i.e. apostate) in Pakistan. Their incredulity, unlike the ecstasy of the deluded souls, had some reason behind it: how could there be 10 million apostates in a country where people get killed for being “half-Muslims”, let alone renouncing the religion altogether? Moreover, apostates are liable to be punished with death (theoretically; sometimes practically, too). #EkCrorePakistaniMulhid must then be a farce in totality.Nevertheless, this “farce” managed to do what many an ugly reality could not achieve: Pakistanis, the people who are silent spectators to loathsome acts like brutal mass murders, went ahead and took to streets to protest against the twitter hashtag.

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Postby Prem » 12 Feb 2015 03:03

China’s reputation at risk
Abid Hasan
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-9 ... on-at-risk
( Chinese Mr X1 Must Ask Pakistan Every Morning How is he doing , Orr Pakistan Burra maan jayega)]
The people of Pakistan view China as their best friend. This friendship has stood the test of time and emerged stronger through many challenges. However, experience shows that bad decisions at critical moments can end up damaging even the best relationship. China recently promised tens of billions of dollars in aid for infrastructure building. This is indeed very welcome for Pakistan, which has massive infrastructure needs. However, if this aid is implemented in the ‘business as usual’ manner, China’s reputation in Pakistan could face huge risks. A white elephant or corruption-ridden mega project will be an eyesore for decades. China must avoid this like the plague to protect its reputation as an all-weather friend of the people of Pakistan.China needs to avoid the recent Sri Lanka sort of situation, which has affected China’s reputation in that country. The Chinese financed and constructed several mega infrastructure projects – notably motorways, a port and an airport – in recent years. They came under great public criticism for unusually high unit costs and non-transparent limited competition procurement process. Based on international comparisons, the Chinese-funded contracts in Sri Lanka cost significantly more than those funded through open international competition by the multilateral banks and the government. As Pakistan’s best friend with long-term strategic interests, China can ill afford a similar reputational risk here. :rotfl: It is primarily the government of Pakistan’s responsibility to ensure that each infrastructure project proposed for Chinese financing is subject to rigorous ‘due diligence’ from the earliest selection/design stage, throughout implementation, and after completion. However, in today’s Pakistan this will not happen, given the weak institutional capacity and politicisation of decision-making. Therefore, China will have to shoulder most of this responsibility, as a friend of the people of Pakistan. There are three broad areas on which China needs to focus to safeguard its reputation and to ensure effectiveness of its development assistance.
First, it is essential that any project that China finances has high economic priority, is fully justified on economic and technical grounds, and will contribute to Pakistan’s long-term growth. China needs to realise that rigorous institutional decision-making, especially when it comes to development projects, is virtually absent in Pakistan. Most such decisions tend to be politically-driven and guided by personal biases or whims. China must assure itself that each project is selected through a rigorous and sound process, and not because it is the pet idea of the leadership or ‘friends and family’ which may or may not be in Pakistan’s long-term interest. China must avoid financing over-sized infrastructure and ensure that loan servicing and Operational and Maintenance (O&M) costs of such projects are affordable and will not haunt Pakistan for decades to come. Many of the ‘unneeded and uneconomic’ proposed projects (for example, the Orange Line, Rail to Muzzafarabad, etc) will be unaffordable to operate and maintain without large public subsidies, and will eventually run into disrepair and obsolescence.China must apply to each project the same kind of rigorous technical, economic, institutional, environmental and social evaluation it does for its own development programmes or as any other donor committing huge sums of money. Perhaps China can require an independent ‘due diligence audit’ of each proposed project before it commits to financing the project. Pakistan is ruled by ‘friends and family’ groups, and mega projects are their ‘instrument of choice’ to make big bucks. Optics and public perception will be critical for China’s reputation. As a minimum, China must insist that the ‘friends and family’ of the political leadership should not be involved in any of these projects, directly or indirectly, and that they do not get any special favours or underhand deals. Such association is not only bad for Pakistan, but will also adversely affect perception about China among the people of Pakistan. Finally given Pakistan’s fragile fiscal and foreign exchange reserve position, any responsible donor must ensure that projects financed by it do not contribute to our bankruptcy. Pakistan has been living off hand-outs for several decades, and there are no serious reform efforts to change this situation .China needs to carefully review whether Pakistan (and its public agencies) will be able to service the foreign debt – even with ‘soft’ loan terms – when all the revenues are in local currency. It must also examine the fiscal burden of the O&M costs of the projects’ it finances. Many infrastructure BOT projects in Pakistan have run into difficulties because the macro-economic and project revenue risks were underplayed, and tariffs made unaffordable as a result of inflated capital costs.In this regard, the infrastructure programme to connect Gwadar to China’s northwest region of Xinjiang needs to be carefully evaluated in respect of its affordability – loan servicing and needed O&M costs. Some of these projects may be good strategic investments, but can Pakistan afford them at this time? China should seriously consider full grant financing for this programme, with rigorous assessment on the ability of Pakistan to finance the associated O&M costs in the future. :wink: Pakistan has many ‘good and sound’ infrastructure projects that need to be built and which require external financing – such as longer gestation investments in hydropower. China should support these, but it must clearly stand up to all the bad ideas being peddled around. It must not provide financial cover for ill-conceived development projects and corrupt practices. Above all, China should avoid getting trapped into dancing the ‘bhangra’ with ‘princelings, friends and family’. The implications for China’s reputation in Pakistan are far too serious for this to be ignored.

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Postby rgsrini » 12 Feb 2015 04:04

^^Basically what he means is that he and his fellow country men will sit on their fat asses and ogle at the goats. And the Chinese, because they are the "best friend" of Pakistan, should identify the projects that are good for pakistan, do the due diligence, fund the projects, do it in the most efficient and transparent manner and also ensure that Pakistan is able to pay the money back after the project is done. If not he and his fellow country men will trash the reputation of Chinese.

So why are we all :rotfl:. Sounds like a fair argument to me...

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Postby ramana » 12 Feb 2015 04:21

It reflects the parasite or leech mentality that Pakistan imbibed from the handout culture nurtured during Cold War.

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Postby A_Gupta » 12 Feb 2015 04:40

ramana wrote:It reflects the parasite or leech mentality that Pakistan imbibed from the handout culture nurtured during Cold War.


When I watched a Paki serial from the 1980s ( Dhoop Kinare) what struck me immediately that people say "hum karvaalenge" (we will get (this task) done) - meaning someone else would actually do it; while Indian tv/movie dialogs were always "hum karenge" (we will do (this task)).

I dunno what the state of affairs in the Indian serial/tv world is currently, but I felt then and feel now that those dialogs reflect a mindset. If now the Indian mindset is also "hum karvaalenge" then a million Modis (or Kejriwals, for those of that inclination) won't help.

PS: maybe it is my incurable middle-class mentality.

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Postby Dipanker » 12 Feb 2015 04:56

A_Gupta wrote:^^^ But Chiniot iron ore reserves were known in 2010 or earlier.
http://www.dawn.com/news/967891/exploit ... s-iron-ore
Published Aug 09, 2010 12:00am

In Punjab, vast iron ore reserves are located in Makerwal-Sho, Mianwali (706 million tons), Chiniot, (110 million tons plus anticipated 500 million tons), Chichali, near Kalabagh, Mianwali (369 mn tons) and in DG Khan (268 mn tons). These all are low-grade iron ore, with about 34 per cent iron content.


Iirc mining iron ore below 60% iron content is not considered profitable, mining Industry in India uses a cut off grade of 63-64%. A iron ore deposit with 34% content nothing but lateritic (red) soil.

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Postby ramana » 12 Feb 2015 05:00

Dipankar I too was wondering about that low % of iron ore. So another boondoggle.

They can make good bricks.

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Postby Shreeman » 12 Feb 2015 05:23

ramana wrote:Dipankar I too was wondering about that low % of iron ore. So another boondoggle.

They can make good bricks.


What good are bricks? They wont even carry eggsploding items. At least you can make cars for bums with iron. No, it has to be extracted at all costs for pak sujuki.

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Postby saip » 12 Feb 2015 05:26

They can make steel begging bowls which can not be broken easily and so will beg in perpetuity.

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Postby RCase » 12 Feb 2015 05:41

A_Gupta wrote:
ramana wrote:It reflects the parasite or leech mentality that Pakistan imbibed from the handout culture nurtured during Cold War.


When I watched a Paki serial from the 1980s ( Dhoop Kinare) what struck me immediately that people say "hum karvaalenge" (we will get (this task) done) - meaning someone else would actually do it; while Indian tv/movie dialogs were always "hum karenge" (we will do (this task)).



Kuffar, small hearted evil Yindoo Bania. Don't you realize that the banias are known for their kanjoosi? Instead of paying for someone else to do the task, they are cheap and do it themselves. However, large hearted Bakis are known for their legendary hospitality and generosity. They gladly pay (or IOUs) for getting the task done by shoodars. Never mind that the money comes from imdad, jaziya or forged currency.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 1 Feb 2

Postby RCase » 12 Feb 2015 06:01

rgsrini wrote:^^Basically what he means is that he and his fellow country men will sit on their fat asses and ogle at the goats. And the Chinese, because they are the "best friend" of Pakistan, should identify the projects that are good for pakistan, do the due diligence, fund the projects, do it in the most efficient and transparent manner and also ensure that Pakistan is able not required to pay the money back after the project is done. If not he and his fellow country men will trash the reputation of Chinese.

So why are we all :rotfl:. Sounds like a fair argument to me...


Please note correction.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 1 Feb 2

Postby shiv » 12 Feb 2015 06:17

Dipanker wrote:
A_Gupta wrote:^^^ But Chiniot iron ore reserves were known in 2010 or earlier.
http://www.dawn.com/news/967891/exploit ... s-iron-ore
Published Aug 09, 2010 12:00am

In Punjab, vast iron ore reserves are located in Makerwal-Sho, Mianwali (706 million tons), Chiniot, (110 million tons plus anticipated 500 million tons), Chichali, near Kalabagh, Mianwali (369 mn tons) and in DG Khan (268 mn tons). These all are low-grade iron ore, with about 34 per cent iron content.


Iirc mining iron ore below 60% iron content is not considered profitable, mining Industry in India uses a cut off grade of 63-64%. A iron ore deposit with 34% content nothing but lateritic (red) soil.

You are a small hearted kuffar. 1% or 100% the reserves are there no? Pakjab is rich. And strong - iron no? And what about the other 70% - plenty of silicon to make computer chips and oxygen to breathe and help grass grow and when taken together has the same composition as the sand of the holy land of the four father Saudi Barbaria.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 1 Feb 2

Postby Tuvaluan » 12 Feb 2015 06:38

So the pakis are waiting for the Chinese to fix the KKH with Chinese money and labour, so they can use it after that. Pakhanasthan Paindabad. You can always depend on the pakis to shoot themselves in both feet so they can lean on some sucker to buy them a wheelchair. These wonderful characteristics seem to blossom the more islamic they become. Truly the work of the mysterious powers of Allah.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 1 Feb 2

Postby deejay » 12 Feb 2015 08:05

Jhujar wrote:http://nation.com.pk/blogs/11-Feb-2015/10-million-apostates
10 million apostates?
( Idiocy, Retardness Baarti gye , Jyon Jyon Incestuous Inbreeding Kii)



This link has the famous lahuda khan (or his twin?) in full frontal rage displayed shouting against the Apostates.

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Postby Shreeman » 12 Feb 2015 08:08

Tuvaluan wrote:So the pakis are waiting for the Chinese to fix the KKH with Chinese money and labour, so they can use it after that. Pakhanasthan Paindabad. You can always depend on the pakis to shoot themselves in both feet so they can lean on some sucker to buy them a wheelchair. These wonderful characteristics seem to blossom the more islamic they become. Truly the work of the mysterious powers of Allah.


KKH is one thing the chinese have fixed. They arent giving up ion road connectivity. The sad thing is this means the bakis will now be tunneling everywhere having gotten the equipment. Look for holes appearing all over PoK.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 1 Feb 2

Postby RajeshG » 12 Feb 2015 09:02

Agree with Anujan. This is just after the fact machogiri. Fact is they couldn't protect the sheikh - their mehmaan. Fact is they came to know about the operation in Abottabad. Fact is the jernails had the option to stop the seals. And fact is they instead started sh1tt1ng bricks. And finally fact is they were shown to be darpok lomdis that they are. All this mardangi is fake.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 1 Feb 2

Postby Tuvaluan » 12 Feb 2015 09:19

Shreeman wrote:KKH is one thing the chinese have fixed. They arent giving up ion road connectivity. The sad thing is this means the bakis will now be tunneling everywhere having gotten the equipment. Look for holes appearing all over PoK.


The chinese have not fixed that yet -- posted the google map (from 2015) that show that the road is yet to be constructed near attabad lake. Pakis don't have the money or the technology to build it and Chinese have not done anything there since the landslide in 2010.

Those tunnels they were allegedly building in PoK was reported a while back, but there is no news of its progress yet, they must be bypassing the attbad lake if they are in fact building that tunnel -- google sat view map does not show any such activity any where nearby.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 1 Feb 2

Postby shiv » 12 Feb 2015 09:32

From July 2014
http://www.irinnews.org/report/100342/p ... d-promises
“The original plan was to drain the lake and have villagers return to their homes. But this never happened,” said Jan. Authorities instead gave priority to reopening the Karakoram Highway (KKH) - the only land route between Pakistan and China to the north - which was blocked by the landslide.

Built by the Chinese and Pakistani militaries in the 1970s, the KKH is the world's highest paved roadway, and hundreds of trucks used it to travel across the Pakistan-China border every day, while it also provided a reliable route for the movement of troops and armaments. When the landslide hit, it formed a 2km-wide earthen dam across the Hunza river valley, blocking the KKH, while Attabad Lake also swamped parts of the road. As a result, trade has slowed to a trickle as trucks looking to cross the lake have to spend more than US$150 to have their cargo loaded onto boats and ferried to the other side. The Pakistani government has focused on the strategically important road at the expense, critics say, of the thousands of displaced.
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FWO were in the end asked to implement some of the much scaled-back project. “Our task was [just] to lower the lake enough to allow construction of an alternate roadway, and reduce the risk of downstream floods,” Abeer explained. Along with reopening the Pakistan-China trade route, lowering the lake's water level was meant to reduce the risk of a potentially catastrophic flood downriver if the earthen dam were to burst.

Working in temperatures that can fall below minus 15 C, FWO blasted a channel into the earthen dam, forming a spillway that has reduced the lake's water level by more than 30 metres. This has allowed CRBC engineers to access the cliffside along the valley, where hundreds of workers are constructing a series of tunnels and bridges, more than 22km long, to bypass the lake and reconnect the KKH.

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Postby Tuvaluan » 12 Feb 2015 09:40

Working in temperatures that can fall below minus 15 C, FWO blasted a channel into the earthen dam, forming a spillway that has reduced the lake's water level by more than 30 metres. This has allowed CRBC engineers to access the cliffside along the valley, where hundreds of workers are constructing a series of tunnels and bridges, more than 22km long, to bypass the lake and reconnect the KKH.


thanks, shivji. Bridge construction seems to have not started according to the sat maps from last month, I guess they are building the tunnels first...of course, can't tell that from sat view.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 1 Feb 2

Postby Harish » 12 Feb 2015 10:52

Jhujar wrote:China’s reputation at risk
Abid Hasan
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-9 ... on-at-risk
( Chinese Mr X1 Must Ask Pakistan Every Morning How is he doing , Orr Pakistan Burra maan jayega)]
The people of Pakistan view China as their best friend. This friendship has stood the test of time and emerged stronger through many challenges. However, experience shows that bad decisions at critical moments can end up damaging even the best relationship. China recently promised tens of billions of dollars in aid for infrastructure building. This is indeed very welcome for Pakistan, which has massive infrastructure needs. However, if this aid is implemented in the ‘business as usual’ manner, China’s reputation in Pakistan could face huge risks. A white elephant or corruption-ridden mega project will be an eyesore for decades. China must avoid this like the plague to protect its reputation as an all-weather friend of the people of Pakistan.China needs to avoid the recent Sri Lanka sort of situation, which has affected China’s reputation in that country. The Chinese financed and constructed several mega infrastructure projects – notably motorways, a port and an airport – in recent years. They came under great public criticism for unusually high unit costs and non-transparent limited competition procurement process. Based on international comparisons, the Chinese-funded contracts in Sri Lanka cost significantly more than those funded through open international competition by the multilateral banks and the government. As Pakistan’s best friend with long-term strategic interests, China can ill afford a similar reputational risk here. :rotfl: It is primarily the government of Pakistan’s responsibility to ensure that each infrastructure project proposed for Chinese financing is subject to rigorous ‘due diligence’ from the earliest selection/design stage, throughout implementation, and after completion. However, in today’s Pakistan this will not happen, given the weak institutional capacity and politicisation of decision-making. Therefore, China will have to shoulder most of this responsibility, as a friend of the people of Pakistan. There are three broad areas on which China needs to focus to safeguard its reputation and to ensure effectiveness of its development assistance.
First, it is essential that any project that China finances has high economic priority, is fully justified on economic and technical grounds, and will contribute to Pakistan’s long-term growth. China needs to realise that rigorous institutional decision-making, especially when it comes to development projects, is virtually absent in Pakistan. Most such decisions tend to be politically-driven and guided by personal biases or whims. China must assure itself that each project is selected through a rigorous and sound process, and not because it is the pet idea of the leadership or ‘friends and family’ which may or may not be in Pakistan’s long-term interest. China must avoid financing over-sized infrastructure and ensure that loan servicing and Operational and Maintenance (O&M) costs of such projects are affordable and will not haunt Pakistan for decades to come. Many of the ‘unneeded and uneconomic’ proposed projects (for example, the Orange Line, Rail to Muzzafarabad, etc) will be unaffordable to operate and maintain without large public subsidies, and will eventually run into disrepair and obsolescence.China must apply to each project the same kind of rigorous technical, economic, institutional, environmental and social evaluation it does for its own development programmes or as any other donor committing huge sums of money. Perhaps China can require an independent ‘due diligence audit’ of each proposed project before it commits to financing the project. Pakistan is ruled by ‘friends and family’ groups, and mega projects are their ‘instrument of choice’ to make big bucks. Optics and public perception will be critical for China’s reputation. As a minimum, China must insist that the ‘friends and family’ of the political leadership should not be involved in any of these projects, directly or indirectly, and that they do not get any special favours or underhand deals. Such association is not only bad for Pakistan, but will also adversely affect perception about China among the people of Pakistan. Finally given Pakistan’s fragile fiscal and foreign exchange reserve position, any responsible donor must ensure that projects financed by it do not contribute to our bankruptcy. Pakistan has been living off hand-outs for several decades, and there are no serious reform efforts to change this situation .China needs to carefully review whether Pakistan (and its public agencies) will be able to service the foreign debt – even with ‘soft’ loan terms – when all the revenues are in local currency. It must also examine the fiscal burden of the O&M costs of the projects’ it finances. Many infrastructure BOT projects in Pakistan have run into difficulties because the macro-economic and project revenue risks were underplayed, and tariffs made unaffordable as a result of inflated capital costs.In this regard, the infrastructure programme to connect Gwadar to China’s northwest region of Xinjiang needs to be carefully evaluated in respect of its affordability – loan servicing and needed O&M costs. Some of these projects may be good strategic investments, but can Pakistan afford them at this time? China should seriously consider full grant financing for this programme, with rigorous assessment on the ability of Pakistan to finance the associated O&M costs in the future. :wink: Pakistan has many ‘good and sound’ infrastructure projects that need to be built and which require external financing – such as longer gestation investments in hydropower. China should support these, but it must clearly stand up to all the bad ideas being peddled around. It must not provide financial cover for ill-conceived development projects and corrupt practices. Above all, China should avoid getting trapped into dancing the ‘bhangra’ with ‘princelings, friends and family’. The implications for China’s reputation in Pakistan are far too serious for this to be ignored.

So now the pakis are practically begging the Chinese to come and colonize their blighted country, but the cheenis are not obliging? The reason, dear pakis, is that the Chinese have always been (and are) territorially greedy, but they are looking for wealth and influence, not a population of inbred yahoos. So the chniks will not touch you with a barge pole. They will spend billions to travel to Mars and scoop up some soil but will not walk into next-door bakistan. Even with an open invitation.

Life is so cruel. :((


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