Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 1 Feb 2015

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Postby Shreeman » 17 Feb 2015 07:14

^^^ How about neither? Does that not even occur as a solution choice? A moat, a wall, a fort. All rivers end at the border. Damn and dam. Why not both?

Half hearted matters solve nothing. All of punjab will be heroin addict, and the politicians have half their progeny in lahore.

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Postby CRamS » 17 Feb 2015 08:39

SSJi, I was just skimming through Indian channels earlier this eveing, and I watched that traitor puke Thappad's show for about 5 mins. He has Hajam Soothi and Siddartha Vardarajn, some Indian express clown, and some diplomat. Man, I couldn't take it. The overwhelming consensus between Thappad, SV, and the Indian express clown was that it is all about ModiJi wiggling out of an untenable situation, backing down from a foolish move. I mean there was nothing on TSP perfidy. I just couldn't take it and switched off. Did you watch that spectacle? I am going to do some Googling to find that IE clown's take which apparently centered in TSP agreeing to not meet the Harried rats ahead of an India TSP dialogue, but free to do so otherwise.

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Postby Kashi » 17 Feb 2015 08:46

CRamS wrote:SSJi, I was just skimming through Indian channels earlier this eveing, and I watched that traitor puke Thappad's show for about 5 mins. He has Hajam Soothi and Siddartha Vardarajn, some Indian express clown, and some diplomat. Man, I couldn't take it.


CRamS ji then why put yourself in such misery by watching these clowns?

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Postby SwamyG » 17 Feb 2015 10:18

Shreeman wrote:^^^ How about neither? Does that not even occur as a solution choice? A moat, a wall, a fort. All rivers end at the border. Damn and dam. Why not both?

Indian soldiers respect the dead Pakistani soldiers too. There is something about Indian culture where we cherish some values including following some dharma even against the enemy. Helping the sick is noble and if India can do it, then it should. Caring for those sick is not going to weaken India. When Pakistan breaks there is this refugee problem that India is eventually going to face.

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Postby Vikas » 17 Feb 2015 10:24

Cosmo_R wrote:Calling on BRFites with twitter smarts to do a Sacco on Sherbutt and Rega

Saar, Rega is simply trying to garner some free publicity. No idea who Sherbutt is

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Postby Shreeman » 17 Feb 2015 10:53

SwamyG wrote:
Shreeman wrote:^^^ How about neither? Does that not even occur as a solution choice? A moat, a wall, a fort. All rivers end at the border. Damn and dam. Why not both?

Indian soldiers respect the dead Pakistani soldiers too. There is something about Indian culture where we cherish some values including following some dharma even against the enemy. Helping the sick is noble and if India can do it, then it should. Caring for those sick is not going to weaken India. When Pakistan breaks there is this refugee problem that India is eventually going to face.


SwamiG,

There is no point in indulging in duplicitous "atithi devobhav". The need for the same medical procedures is *grave* for indians too. And they could be treated many to one. And bakis can beg mecca/medina for the same treatment and get it on oil prices.

This has nothing to do with rules of war, or respect for combatants. Leave the soldiers well alone, they are already taking bullets for you.

There is no scope in India for this medical charity, except that the Indian poor dont even count as much as these pakistanis. And then they have to see "noble" Indians crowing about the largesse on top of that.

How about India hold off until they stop shooting, or give up dawood, or stop supporting hurrirats, or printing fake currency? It is all fun and games "like this onlee" while ones own services are assured.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 1 Feb 2

Postby ArmenT » 17 Feb 2015 10:58

Gus wrote:stumbled on this podcast. quite interesting..lots of details
http://www.globaldispatchespodcast.com/ ... tine-fair/

the ISI got a hold of her book prospectus before it was even published, did not like what she wrote in there and tried to bully/intimidate. cfair did not back off and she gets threatened with gang rape by an entire regiment.

her response? - will it be infantry or cavalry? as there will be a qualitative and a quantitative effect on her gang rape experience. :lol:

reg pak - it is a turd, i won't coat chocolate on it and call it a donut. they are turd. they take our money and kill our troops.

oh and sherry is her drink buddy. :D

The stuff at 23:35 is hilarious where she's talking about being banned permanently by the Pakistanis. "They hate me because I tell it like it is. My mom would say, "You don't put chocolate on a turd and call it a donut!" and Pakistan is definitely a turd!"

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Postby Shreeman » 17 Feb 2015 10:59

VikasRaina wrote:
Cosmo_R wrote:Calling on BRFites with twitter smarts to do a Sacco on Sherbutt and Rega

Saar, Rega is simply trying to garner some free publicity. No idea who Sherbutt is


Rega is a 23 year old? (American?) 2013? columbia BA graduate. seems to have been fed the NYTimes mugali ghutti. In other words, a true 2 bit, whats that word for the new york special ladies?

It is the curse of her business to "expose" any and all feelings. But why random pay-by-word-length top-ten lists should trend or gain any attention despite what some no name person says is beyond me. Next India will be following the sayings of kim kardashian vs Amber Rose in all its literal glory.

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Postby Shreeman » 17 Feb 2015 11:05

ArmenT wrote:
Gus wrote:stumbled on this podcast. quite interesting..lots of details
http://www.globaldispatchespodcast.com/ ... tine-fair/

the ISI got a hold of her book prospectus before it was even published, did not like what she wrote in there and tried to bully/intimidate. cfair did not back off and she gets threatened with gang rape by an entire regiment.

her response? - will it be infantry or cavalry? as there will be a qualitative and a quantitative effect on her gang rape experience. :lol:

reg pak - it is a turd, i won't coat chocolate on it and call it a donut. they are turd. they take our money and kill our troops.

oh and sherry is her drink buddy. :D

The stuff at 23:35 is hilarious where she's talking about being banned permanently by the Pakistanis. "They hate me because I tell it like it is. My mom would say, "You don't put chocolate on a turd and call it a donut!" and Pakistan is definitely a turd!"


Armen (actually all),

We have *some* standards. The Cfair debate is shameless self-promotion and really the podcasts like this related to her falling out with ISI et al, and the sexuality related stuff is just dragging the thread to pakistan. When was it last that CFair actually analyzed something or brought any new information/insights to the table?

I remain unimpressed (have the review written somewhere, will post in the positive news thread whrn I can dig it up). She deserves to be ignored, as this is nothing more than a media circus, and distracting from the broader goal of laughing at bakis.

ps -- nothing hilarious about accusations, threats and pakistan-sandwich jokes. We can make the jokes better ourselves.
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Postby member_19686 » 17 Feb 2015 11:10

Japan: Ahmadi Muslim leaders criticizes Japanese publisher for book of Prophet Muhammad cartoons

Ahmadiyya Times | News Watch | Int'l Desk
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By Mainichi Japan | February 11, 2015

TOKYO (Kyodo) -- Tokyo-based publisher Daisan Shokan released a book on Tuesday containing cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad previously published in the French satirical weekly paper Charlie Hebdo.

Some bookstores have decided not to stock the book, titled "Islam Hate ka, Fushi ka" (Anti-Islam Hate, or Satire?), in response to opposition by Muslims in Japan.

About 500 bookstores nationwide have expressed interest in selling the book but have not yet decided whether to stock it.

Riot police from the Metropolitan Police Department have been stationed around Daisan Shokan's headquarters in Shinjuku Ward since Tuesday morning.

The 64-page book has an initial print run of 3,000 copies. It contains 48 satirical cartoons alongside comments by 10 cartoonists and researchers on Islam.

Daisan Shokan President Akira Kitagawa said the book is not intended as an insult to Islam, adding, "We want this book to add to the debate on the limits of free expression."

Kitagawa said his firm has blurred the face of Muhammad in the cartoons in the book, so as not to offend Muslims.

But a Muslim organization has maintained that printing the cartoons themselves is an affront to Islam.

A Pakistani Muslim living in Aichi Prefecture expressed regret over the publication at a press conference in Nagoya. "We cannot forgive any insult to the religion," said 36-year-old Anees Ahmad Nadeem, leader of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community's Japan unit and operator of an Islamic mosque in Tsushima in the central Japanese prefecture.

He said Japanese and Muslims have never insulted or injured each other, adding, "I wish to see such relations continue."

He also said he protested to the publisher by telephone on Monday and Tuesday but failed to change its decision to publish the book.

Charlie Hebdo's Paris office was attacked by extremist gunmen on Jan. 7, leaving 12 people dead. The weekly's first issue following the attack carried a cartoon of Muhammad on the cover.

Last March, the Supreme Court upheld lower court rulings ordering Daisan Shokan to pay 35.2 million yen in damages to 16 Muslims living in Japan after it published a book based on leaked police documents linking the plaintiffs with terrorism.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 1 Feb 2

Postby a_bharat » 17 Feb 2015 12:57

Bomb blast outside police lines in Lahore: 5 dead.

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Postby Anujan » 17 Feb 2015 12:58

Toll is rising and hit 10. Apparently soosai bombing.

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Postby partha » 17 Feb 2015 13:06

Slowly but surely, freedom fighters are taking the fight to the heart of Pakistan, Pakjab.

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Postby pankajs » 17 Feb 2015 13:12

Jhujar wrote:Pak-India talks
http://nation.com.pk/columns/16-Feb-201 ... ndia-talks

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The key to this approach lies in a peaceful South Asia. To realize this objective, Pakistan wants meaningful and result-oriented dialogue with India for resolution of all outstanding issues. And such dialogue with India must include the Kashmir issue, otherwise it would be futile.
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This should be the points of pressure. If the environment is conducive the talks will be fruitful else make it a pure chai biscut affair. If the Bakis want to talk Kasmir talk on POK's eventual return to India in light of the Indian parliament resolution. The assumption here is that Indian are willing to settle for LOC as IB. Let the Bakis cry that talks are futile. We are status quo power so futile talks does not impact us except as a time waste.

If Indian demands have been met shouldn't the Indian gov. have boldly announced the resumption of talks pointing to such assurances (Not that such assurances matters one bit but for optics). If we are going back to the talks again and again for whatever reason why score self goals like the recent ones. Why try inventing farcical cover to counter the impression that US pressure worked and India returned to talks without any assurance for Baki side.

This Indian gov has a more globalized worldview and wants a closer relationship with world powers. That in itself grants *additional* leverage to these powers to pressure Indian to talk. The Bakis, given their fondness for tactical brilliance, will keep doing stuff to annoy, harass and harm India. Switching on and off on talks on every pin-pricks should not be an option except for major incidents like Mumbai, Parliament attack, etc.

Perhaps the current government took the first opportunity to send a stern message that the *business as usual* era is gone but the Off/On cannot be long-term strategy. The re-engagement based on dubious optics only makes it worse.
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Postby ArmenT » 17 Feb 2015 13:16

a_bharat wrote:Bomb blast outside police lines in Lahore: 5 dead.

Might as well provide a link or two to news articles reporting about it.
Explosion near Lahore's Police Lines, eight dead (Dawn.com)
Eight killed in Lahore blast near Police Lines (tribune)

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 1 Feb 2

Postby Anujan » 17 Feb 2015 13:53

Apparently a breakaway faction of ttp has claimed responsibility. Didn't Shahbaz Sharif have an agreement with them that they should attack other provinces and leave Pakjab alone?

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Postby a_bharat » 17 Feb 2015 14:02

ArmenT wrote:
a_bharat wrote:Bomb blast outside police lines in Lahore: 5 dead.

Might as well provide a link or two to news articles reporting about it.


source: TV

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Postby pankajs » 17 Feb 2015 14:04

Anujan wrote:Apparently a breakaway faction of ttp has claimed responsibility. Didn't Shahbaz Sharif have an agreement with them that they should attack other provinces and leave Pakjab alone?
Perhaps this one wasn't covered or that it was breakaway of a breakaway.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 1 Feb 2

Postby partha » 17 Feb 2015 14:35

Is it Ahrar Ul Hind which attacked an Isloo court last year?

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Postby Peregrine » 17 Feb 2015 15:12

SwamyG wrote:
Peregrine wrote:My only solution is to stop all trade with Pakistan, Close Borders, No. Visas to Pakistanis except to Ajmer for Pilgrimage. No Medical Treatment, No Educational Scholarships to the Pakis, Send back alls the Singers, Actors etc.

Why give access to Ajmer on religious grounds? Instead provide access to medical treatment.


SwamyG Ji:

Giving access to Ajmer : You forget the Hindus going to Hinglaj Mata. However - more importantly - the British gave Lahore (80% Business and property owned by Hindus and Sikhs as well as a Population Majority) and the Janamsthan to Pakistan. How in the name of sanity can we deprive our Sikh Brothers and Sisters of a visit to Nankana Saheb if we deprive Pakistani Muslims for access to Ajmer Sarif? In addition Yatris pay. Free Medical Treatments costs the Indian Exchequer! Let us earn from the Pakistani Yatris and save on the Medical Treatment.

In addition the Indians who pay their Taxes not only Direct but also Indirect need the Medical Facilities more than our Enemies.
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Postby chetak » 17 Feb 2015 16:12

^^^^^^^^

When we shut down everything, that's maybe when the aam pakis will start to question the wisdom of their govt policies vis a vis India.

Why not first take up all deserving Indian cases for medical help before extending a hand to others?? or is someone's padma bushan at stake??

Every Indian, however poor, already pays taxes to the GOI and state govts in many forms and levy. Their needs, all come before the needs of any paki, whosoever, it may be, howsoever needy or deserving. No exceptions.
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Postby A_Gupta » 17 Feb 2015 16:19

^^^ No, the 1951 figure is just West Pakistan.

Financial trails of some of the anti-dam movements originate from India.


Perhaps the Arundhati Roy crowd have some value, after all! :lol:

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Postby Shreeman » 17 Feb 2015 22:33

Peregrine wrote:
SwamyG wrote: quote="Peregrine" My only solution is to stop all trade with Pakistan, Close Borders, No. Visas to Pakistanis except to Ajmer for Pilgrimage. No Medical Treatment, No Educational Scholarships to the Pakis, Send back alls the Singers, Actors etc.

Why give access to Ajmer on religious grounds? Instead provide access to medical treatment.


SwamyG Ji:

Giving access to Ajmer : You forget the Hindus going to Hinglaj Mata. However - more importantly - the British gave Lahore (80% Business and property owned by Hindus and Sikhs as well as a Population Majority) and the Janamsthan to Pakistan. How in the name of sanity can we deprive our Sikh Brothers and Sisters of a visit to Nankana Saheb if we deprive Pakistani Muslims for access to Ajmer Sarif? In addition Yatris pay. Free Medical Treatments costs the Indian Exchequer! Let us earn from the Pakistani Yatris and save on the Medical Treatment.

Peregrine,

This too is a red herring. There are plenty of temples in India -- many in need. Why is there no clamor for Kailash mansarovar all the time? Cold weather, fear of china?

The decision to leave nankana sahib was made in 1947, there is no point in regretting it now. Those that are value the gurudwara over gurugranth are a disgrace to a faith created only to fight against those occupying gurudwara now. Do they recall a guru's body on show in Delhi?

This hindi-paki bhai bhai has ONLY sabotage value. Trying to find god is pakistan is the same as killing dogs so the faristas wont run away.

The political class needs an indian-pak conflict, and a dialog. The people do not. Ban +92, kick out PIA, fly around pakistan. Make sure the fishermen are not abducted.

This back channel stuff is GUBO. Thats how it was defined. Thats why it was needed.

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Postby Prem » 17 Feb 2015 22:50

http://www.dawn.com/news/1164177/pakist ... y-pm-nawaz
Pakistan and Turkey share a ‘joint destiny’: PM Nawaz
And
http://www.dawn.com/news/1164189/afghan ... army-chief
Afghanistan's enemy is Pakistan's enemy, says army chief

Pakistan Hai Yaan Ummah's Shared Vadhu!

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 1 Feb 2

Postby V_Raman » 18 Feb 2015 00:58

One small good thing I noticed in one of the pictures of the above news article on Turkey PM visit, the road in the welcome board seems pretty modern and traffic is flowing in lanes!

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Postby Shreeman » 18 Feb 2015 01:13

V_Raman wrote:One small good thing I noticed in one of the pictures of the above news article on Turkey PM visit, the road in the welcome board seems pretty modern and traffic is flowing in lanes!


Turkey is right about the shared destiny. But does turkey want pakistans destiny?

And if you make bright, wide, flat, superior, TFTA roads then traffic will be first class. How can you expect anything less?

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Postby abhijitm » 18 Feb 2015 01:21

V_Raman wrote:One small good thing I noticed in one of the pictures of the above news article on Turkey PM visit, the road in the welcome board seems pretty modern and traffic is flowing in lanes!


You mean like this?

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Postby RCase » 18 Feb 2015 01:24

COAS met Turkish PM at Isd today. "We stand by our brothers. Pakistan's security is Turkish security, Pak flag is Turkish flag" Turkish PM said


Afghanistan's enemy is Pakistan's enemy, says army chief


Hence, will the Turks take on the TTP (Pakistan's enemy) and the Taliban (Afghanistan's enemy)? Real NATO ally and Non-NATO All Lie will team up! I guess Turkey also wants to run with the hares and hunt with the hounds. They need pakistaniyat gift that keeps on giving, to be spread in Turkey.

What is up with these cliches? Why can't these morons come up with something better than obsess on enemy/friend relationships? Similar platitudes for their all-weather fliend.

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Postby RCase » 18 Feb 2015 02:11

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Future of Turkey with its shared destiny with Pakistan!

“Words cannot do justice to the special bond between Turkey and Pakistan, we are bound together by our common faith and culture, we share a distinct sense of a joint destiny,” the PM said.

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Postby Cosmo_R » 18 Feb 2015 02:24

Wall to wall beauty

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Postby RoyG » 18 Feb 2015 02:36

Purity is slowly making its way into the heart of Punjab. It's only a matter of time before India, US, and China have to act proactively to denuke them.

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Postby Shreeman » 18 Feb 2015 02:43

Stop dreaming. ^^^^ This is the leader of the islamic word, nukular power, china's best friend, major military power , gateway to central asia, shared destiny eith turkey whos shared destiny is with europe, that you are talking about.

Look at the wide roads and clean traffic and weep!

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Postby partha » 18 Feb 2015 02:45

Modi should troll the Pakis by inviting Turkey PM for a state visit and signing some multi million dollar trade deals. Then we'll get to see another round of rhona dhona on Pak TV :lol:

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Postby member_23370 » 18 Feb 2015 02:57

Turks are another islamic mofos. I would rather Modi visit Israel and set up relations with kurds. Turkey and paki can cry together then.

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Postby Shreeman » 18 Feb 2015 03:03

Bheeshma wrote:Turks are another islamic mofos. I would rather Modi visit Israel and set up relations with kurds. Turkey and paki can cry together then.


It IS an equal-equal by Turkey. The israeli PM IS visiting India with defense deals lined up.

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Postby member_23370 » 18 Feb 2015 04:39

LoL..Haram link

httpXXX://tribune.com.pk/story/839790/d ... nt-2492608

A porki weeping over Federer supporting team India. Wish I could really rub it in on the face of these vermins.

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Postby Prem » 18 Feb 2015 04:47

Gubai Ki Rubai: Mirza Asslam Beg Ko Kabaj Aayee
Indo-US nexus

( Usual Bhyya Mohajir Bravado is Missing)
The factors determining the geo-political dynamics of our region have a name. It is Modi’s concept of ‘Act Asia’ and Obama’s idea of ‘Pivot to Asia.’ In fact, both the concepts emanate from their failed post 9/11 Afghanistan policies: The 2005 Indo-US Strategic Partnership was aimed at establishing Indian hegemony over the territories from Afghanistan to Bangladesh. For this purpose, Afghanistan was declared a part of South Asia, giving a free hand to India to use Afghan soil as the base for the “Coalition Spy net-work”, against all the neighbors of Afghanistan, particularly Pakistan. Consensus was also reached on a civilian nuclear deal, and to get the deal, India voted against Iran’s nuclear programme and agreed to jointly work with the US and its coalition partners, to contain and curb rising Islamic extremism in the region. The US and coalition partners failed on all counts.
Modi’s present strategic embrace of the US adds new dimensions to the geo-political dynamics of the region. Being a “non-aligned country, India is moving away from its encrusted ideology of non-alignment to a multi-aligned approach.” India has now been drawn into a closer long term military relationship with the US in a swathe, extending from the Gulf of Eden to the Straits of Malacca. A defence framework agreement was renewed for ten years and the Defence Technology and Trade agreement was signed to help India build an aircraft carrier. India has also entered into the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation Forum, dominated by US and Japan and will be actively engaged “to counter Chinese New Silk Road Partnership, based on Euro-Asian land bridge and the String of Pearls connectivity, stretching from the Middle East to China.”Modi’s prime objective is to achieve “economic growth that could reach the poor, not by the pernicious limitations of the trickle-down theory, but by a trickle-up theory, in which swift financial empowerment of the poor is matched by the goods manufactured in India. Obama wants a piece of India’s rising growth and a dominant role in Asia. US technology can help it along. Modi knows that.” Therefore, India and the US now have set the goal of increasing trade from the present US$ 100 million to US$ 500 million a year, matching with that of China. A significant outcome of the visit is the breakthrough in finding the formula to remove the discord over India’s nuclear liability laws.Despite the strategic embrace with the US, India’s policy of multi-alignment is pragmatic and far more practical and will continue to draw India towards China and Russia, exerting pressure on “America’s ability to adjust to a multi-polar world shaped by Delhi and Washington, although the rise of India is a geopolitical fact of our time and the manner in which it rises is critical to the future of the global order.”t is but logical to assume that the declared objective of Indo-US Strategic Partnership is to contain and curb the rising economic and military power of China, and “has set an alarm in China’s mind, facilitating a defacto understanding between China, Pakistan and Russia, who have recently developed significant military and economic relations”, strengthening Pakistan’s external security dimensions. The present situation also offers the opportunity to Pakistan to construct a new narrative of the Pak-US relationship, based on mutual self respect and interests, knowing the fact that, “the US isn’t just another country. It is a super power that has made the world a more dangerous place. Where ever the US has recently intervened it has left a mess, worse than the earlier dictators did, as in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria.” It is therefore imperative for Pakistan to loosen the US bear hug, and opt for a more friendly and comfortable embrace, one in which to breathe freely.

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Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 1 Feb 2

Postby Peregrine » 18 Feb 2015 04:51

Peregrine wrote:My only solution is to stop all trade with Pakistan, Close Borders, No. Visas to Pakistanis except to Ajmer for Pilgrimage. No Medical Treatment, No Educational Scholarships to the Pakis, Send back alls the Singers, Actors etc.

SwamyG wrote:Why give access to Ajmer on religious grounds? Instead provide access to medical treatment.

Peregrine wrote:SwamyG Ji :
Giving access to Ajmer : You forget the Hindus going to Hinglaj Mata. However - more importantly - the British gave Lahore (80% Business and property owned by Hindus and Sikhs as well as a Population Majority) and the Janamsthan to Pakistan. How in the name of sanity can we deprive our Sikh Brothers and Sisters of a visit to Nankana Saheb if we deprive Pakistani Muslims for access to Ajmer Sarif? In addition Yatris pay. Free Medical Treatments costs the Indian Exchequer! Let us earn from the Pakistani Yatris and save on the Medical Treatment.

Shreeman wrote:Peregrine,
This too is a red herring. There are plenty of temples in India -- many in need. Why is there no clamor for Kailash mansarovar all the time? Cold weather, fear of china?

The decision to leave nankana sahib was made in 1947, there is no point in regretting it now. Those that are value the gurudwara over gurugranth are a disgrace to a faith created only to fight against those occupying gurudwara now. Do they recall a guru's body on show in Delhi?

This hindi-paki bhai bhai has ONLY sabotage value. Trying to find god is pakistan is the same as killing dogs so the faristas wont run away.

The political class needs an indian-pak conflict, and a dialog. The people do not. Ban +92, kick out PIA, fly around pakistan. Make sure the fishermen are not abducted.

This back channel stuff is GUBO. Thats how it was defined. Thats why it was needed.

Shreeman :

I accept the tenet "Guru maaniyo Granth".

However, I fear that GOI will face a a big problem with the Indian Sikh Yatris not being able to visit the Holy Places while Sikhs from all other Countries will be Welcomed in the Land of the Pure and Home of the Terrorists. The Khalistaani "Leadership" will - at the bebest of the Cwapistani Govt. - have a Field day and we could see - in my Opinion - great unrest in Punjab.

Hindu Yatris to Hinglaj may feel downcast but hten there are huge number of other sites in India. There is no Indian site to "Replace" the Sanctity of Nankana Saheb and Janamsthan.

However if wiser sense feels that our Indian Sikh Brethren can tolerate being deprived Yatra to Nankana Saheb and Janamsthan for say a period of Five to Ten Years then the complete "Freezing" of Relations with Cwapistan could be done.

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