Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 1 Feb 2015

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There was a film.....Black hawk something where Bakistani solders are serving cold water to yankees. Saudis also need some servers and Bakistani solders are required for that.
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 709611.cms
Two Pakistani intelligence officers posted in Sri Lanka deputed two spies to get details of 'Project Varsha', India's new naval base near Visakhapatnam which will be home for its new fleet of nuclear submarines. They also asked the spies to attempt befriending and luring Indian Navy and Army officers to Colombo where "women and cash could be arranged" to get information on defence matters, the National Investigation Agency (NIA) has said in an explosive 43-page charge-sheet submitted in a cou ..

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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/art ... aign=cppst
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rsingh wrote:There was a film.....Black hawk something where Bakistani solders are serving cold water to yankees. Saudis also need some servers and Bakistani solders are required for that.
Naach Paki Bulbul Phir Paisa Mile Ga
Saudi Qadardan Phir Nahi Aissa mielga
Paki Mush Hai itni Motti
Peeche Saudi Aaagge Houthi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk7_aA8IyF8
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krisna wrote: India should have no role in it.
islam will gain precedence otherwise due to kuffars. of course uncle will not take it kindly. it will fish more in our troubles waters.
now it is between islamic factions/power centers. Here islam nullified and only tribal identities.
let them fight to finish or atleast be at each others throats if stalemate for years/decades to come.
Every time we hear news of what Pakistan does abroad India should burp, fart, pick out a piece of dinner between the teeth with the tongue, spit it out and go back to sleep as an indicator of how important Pakistan is to the world.
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rsingh wrote:There was a film.....Black hawk something where Bakistani solders are serving cold water to yankees. Saudis also need some servers and Bakistani solders are required for that.
Not sure about that film, but there's one where they are serving something else to the Saudis called "Blackhawk Up" (to be read aloud and fast).
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Anujan wrote:
The Houthi situation is fascinating: Saudis are attacking them, in Yemen! On top of that they claim that they are backed by Iran (hard to verify, most probably true). If this is true, Saudis would want to do some mischief inside Iran -- what better place to do IT exports from than Pakistan?
This is the start of the Sunni Shia war which will go on for long term. West has been successful in getting this war started in Middle east.
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Jhujar wrote:
ramana wrote: Peregrine its cat fight among tomcats.No Mahabharata as there is only adharma involved.
When Adharma is involved, War among Malecch Kalessh Gandhesh Malisht is like making Maha- Bhartha of rotton (Bengans)ingredients . Mahabharata was/ is/ will be for highest purpose of human life.

OTOH, India need to extract price from Both Soon to be Saudi Aardh-ia and expanding Iran for taking passive stance and not intervening on behalf any party.
THis Sunni Shia war will play out. India should not get involved and also not let them unite against India. West will try to attempt this .

India should finally work with the winner for a stable middle east and also have long term trade relations for OIL and other goods.
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Isn't the paki jihadi army's motto ":Iman, Taqwa, Jihad fi Sabilillah". So Pakistan is earning iman by running as per commands of Saudis, doing piety by attacking Houthi shias and jihad in name of Allah who knows best. Now only if Saudis had doled out more $$ then Pakistanis would be doing more if the same.
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For the record, how USA & China helped Pakis in 1971 while genocide was ongoing in then East Pakistan (Now Bangladesh post independence).
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Mid-air scare: Hijack attempt foiled on board Air India flight to London?
WTF!!!!! :shock: :shock:
Indian airlines have warned crew members to be on their guard, citing an alleged incident on board a recent international flight where there was a suspicious attempt to gain access to the cockpit.

According to an email sent to Jet Airways pilots on Friday, which HT has seen, a passenger allegedly feigned illness and five others claiming to be doctors volunteered medical assistance. After examining the “sick” passenger, they insisted strongly on meeting the captain, but were refused permission.

“Their persistence was suspect and the captain refused to meet the doctors either inside or outside the cockpit,” reads the note.


According to aviation sources, this occurred on a recent Air India flight to London.

A check was subsequently carried out, which revealed the five were Pakistani nationals. “They were all Pakistan passport holders and their contact numbers, when tried, were found to be fictitious. The patient is also being considered a suspect,” the note says.

Similar accounts have been sent to cabin crew at other airlines, with strict instructions that no “unauthorised” person is to be allowed entry to the cockpit at any cost, aviation sources said.

Top intelligence officials, however, dismissed the claims. Air India declined to comment while attempts to elicit a response from the Bureau of Civil Aviation Security also went unanswered.
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Should I read this that China is rethinking investing in power plants in Pakistan? A power transmission line is much less expensive than powerplants?
http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2015/03 ... -pakistan/
China has offered to export 4,000MW of electricity to Pakistan for which a memorandum of understanding will be signed in a couple of days, according to sources....
...
The meeting would also finalise the agreement for signing during the coming visit of Chinese President Xi Jinping to Pakistan, he said.

The two sides will also discuss modalities, including the financing of the transmission line, tariff and deadline for completion of the project.Water and Power Minister Khwaja Asif hinted on Monday that the project would be ready by 2018.
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Wrong thread deleted.
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RajeshA wrote:If Pakistanis deploy ground troops to Yemen, then India should arm the Houthi militia to make Yemen the killing fields or deserts for the Bakis!

Every Baki fauji should be seen on videos how they are taken apart by the Houthi Militia and those videos made available to the Bakis through the usual video file hosting providers like Youtube, etc.

Baki shoes on the ground in Yemen should mean only one thing, those shoes and the Porki trotters in them never return home to Al Bakistan!

If Pakistanis fly Saudi planes, then India should start providing air defense weapons to the Houthis.

If Saudi Arabia wants to have some success in Yemen, they should decide against importing Baki downhill skiers. No Baki soldiers for Yemen, means no Saudi money for Bakis! We Yindoos like it that way!
It would be cheaper to do nothing but just spread the rumor that we are supporting the hoothis. That way, bakis will be motivated to run out to yemen and die at the hands of the the locals.
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It would be cheaper to do nothing but just spread the rumor that we are supporting the hoothis. That way, bakis will be motivated to run out to yemen and die at the hands of the the locals.
Yes, Sir, cheap and best plan. Let the pakis and their paranoia do our work for free. Just claim that Indian troops have merged seamlessly with the houthis and watch the paki lemmings jump off the cliff.
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http://thediplomat.com/2015/03/chinese- ... militants/
In an attack on Monday, unknown militants set at least five oil tankers on fire and abducted four drivers reportedly carrying fuel for a Chinese company working on the Saindak Project in Balochistan’s Chaghi district, outside the provincial capital Quetta. Police sources said the privately owned tankers were targeted because they supply oil to a Chinese company working on a major project in mineral-rich Balochistan province.

The attack took place as Pakistan prepares to hand over its deep sea Gwadar port to Chinese interests in the coming month. The atmosphere surrounding the handover is tense.

According to reports, militants with sophisticated weapons began firing indiscriminately on the tankers near the Kirdi Gap area of Mastung district late Monday morning. Police and frontier corps are investigating the attack. Efforts have also been made to trace the missing drivers.

Although it was unclear who was behind the incident, and no group has claimed responsibility, local media suggested that Baloch insurgents were involved. Baloch insurgents have for some years been attacking government and private property, including Chinese facilities in Balochistan. Tankers have recently become a preferred target.

The last attack on fuel tankers linked to Chinese operations in Balochistan took place July 14, 2013, when Baloch militants ambushed a convoy of fuel trucks in Chaghi district. A firefight between police guards and insurgents erupted, and four trucks were destroyed.
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Anything is possible with the Pakis. Does AI carry Pakistani passengers transiting through Delhi? If they do for want of a few dollars, they must discontinue that practice immediately.
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vishvak wrote:For the record, how USA & China helped Pakis in 1971 while genocide was ongoing in then East Pakistan (Now Bangladesh post independence).
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If one looks at the WikiLeaks, then one realizes that every political party in Tamilnadu had deep contacts with the US Consular office in Chennai and discussed almost all issues. I have also noticed that until the Devyani issue happened, the US Consul staff in Chennai were invited to preside over many, many functions by all and sundry including inaugurating Carnatic music season concerts. The tentacles were strong, deep and widespread. In the last two years, their visible presence has come down. Therefore, I would not be surprised if Morarji Desai or YB Chavan or anybody else was a mole.
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Paki Ejaz Haider writes: "21st Bn the Azad Kashmir Regt on Pakistan Day as part of the UN Mission in Congo. #hail AK Regt! " -- so the buggers have now started a "Azad Kashmir" regiment to claim ownership of part of J&K. How chweet.
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India willing to sell LNG to Pakistan: Pradhan - Business Line
India is willing to sell gas to Pakistan, Minister of State (Independent Charge), Petroleum and Natural Gas, Dharmendra Pradhan, said on Friday.

“Our public sector units are strong enough to sell LNG to Pakistan’s domestic sector at a cheaper rate than what the neighbouring nation is buying at currently,” he said.

He, however, maintained that it was a diplomatic and geopolitical issue. A proposal to sell gas to Pakistan has been on hold since last year due to strained relations between the two nations.


Pradhan was speaking at the Urja Sangam 2015 here on the theme ‘Framing Energy Security - sustainability and responsible energy investments’.

Last year, GAIL India and Inter State Gas Systems, Pakistan, had almost concluded a pact for supply of 5 million metric standard cubic metre a day (MMSCMD) of lean gas to Pakistan for a period of 5 years. However, negotiations stalled after the Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi cancelled a round of diplomatic talks with the country last August.

Modi was upset as the Pakistani High Commissioner to India had held talks with separatist leaders prior to the proposed meet.

According to the deal, the LNG to be sold to Pakistan would be imported through terminals in Maharashtra or Gujarat and transported to Jalandhar using GAIL’s existing pipeline network. It would then have to be gassified to send to Pakistan.

Stressing on the importance of ties with neighbours in the area of energy, Pradhan said that while India could not be ignored at the world stage because of its sheer market size, “our responsibility is towards our neighbouring nations as well”, he said.

The country has engaged with neighbours such as Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal and Bhutan. “Energy from India’s hydrocarbons is reaching Bangladesh. Can we impact the world with our hydrocarbon…that is our challenge,” he said.
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SSridhar wrote:India willing to sell LNG to Pakistan: Pradhan - Business Line
India is willing to sell gas to Pakistan, Minister of State (Independent Charge), Petroleum and Natural Gas, Dharmendra Pradhan, said on Friday.

“Our public sector units are strong enough to sell LNG to Pakistan’s domestic sector at a cheaper rate than what the neighbouring nation is buying at currently,” he said.

He, however, maintained that it was a diplomatic and geopolitical issue. A proposal to sell gas to Pakistan has been on hold since last year due to strained relations between the two nations.


Pradhan was speaking at the Urja Sangam 2015 here on the theme ‘Framing Energy Security - sustainability and responsible energy investments’.

Last year, GAIL India and Inter State Gas Systems, Pakistan, had almost concluded a pact for supply of 5 million metric standard cubic metre a day (MMSCMD) of lean gas to Pakistan for a period of 5 years. However, negotiations stalled after the Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi cancelled a round of diplomatic talks with the country last August.

Modi was upset as the Pakistani High Commissioner to India had held talks with separatist leaders prior to the proposed meet.

According to the deal, the LNG to be sold to Pakistan would be imported through terminals in Maharashtra or Gujarat and transported to Jalandhar using GAIL’s existing pipeline network. It would then have to be gassified to send to Pakistan.

Stressing on the importance of ties with neighbours in the area of energy, Pradhan said that while India could not be ignored at the world stage because of its sheer market size, “our responsibility is towards our neighbouring nations as well”, he said.

The country has engaged with neighbours such as Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal and Bhutan. “Energy from India’s hydrocarbons is reaching Bangladesh. Can we impact the world with our hydrocarbon…that is our challenge,” he said.
no shortage of sootiyas. Search for one and you are bound to find hundreds. @ssh@les cannot supply hydrocarbons to meet the local demand.

and why at cheaper price???
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I have come to the conclusion that inflation in bakistan is going to explode. There are a couple of big ponzi schemes going on there.

I hope Mr. Pradhan realizes that he is going to subsidize one end of the "circular" debt circus that is going on by supplying bakis with gas. No one is going to pay for the gas supplied. The only payment you may get is in kind in the form of pindi-channa hydrogen-sulphide in copious quantities.
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Finally this makes news in Pakistan.
Shabaz sharif's letter to OBL asking him to spare Punjab from Al Keeda activities.
The names of some of OBL's intermediaries also comes up - Harami Gul, and Hafiz Khalil
Chaudhary bros etc.
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svinayak wrote:This is the start of the Sunni Shia war which will go on for long term. West has been successful in getting this war started in Middle east.
Eggjacktly !
The west wants a return to the days when Iran and Iraq fought the great Shia Sunni war for a decade, without anyone knowing why the phuck these two were phyting each other.
Everyone was supplying weapons to both sides then
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They already have pindi gas which is also natural. No need for India to supply gas.
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Gagan wrote:
svinayak wrote:This is the start of the Sunni Shia war which will go on for long term. West has been successful in getting this war started in Middle east.
Eggjacktly !
The west wants a return to the days when Iran and Iraq fought the great Shia Sunni war for a decade, without anyone knowing why the phuck these two were phyting each other.
Everyone was supplying weapons to both sides then
Coming to think of it, isn't that exactly what the Brishits did with the Moguls in India. Mir Jafar etc.

The difference is that the brishits never went on an all out war. All they built in India in terms of an "army" was a force that was barely large enough to disrupt the trade between kingdoms, that was enough for them to tilt the fate of kingdoms one way or the other.

The new model is very similar. Unkil has enough force to "disrupt" trade between middle-east nations among themselves and the world. He may also have some amount of force to go to war as well (Eye-Raq for ex). Unkil then uses this power to nudge the dividing lines in the Islamic world to destroy each other and keep them from ever uniting and forming into a cohesive group.

Islam is a potent weapon in the hands of Unkil.
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So the saudi scum undercut themselves by cutting down oil prices and they are hurting now and also starting a war with the Iranians. In other completely unrelated news, Russia is hurting from oil prices dripping and is being pulled into a war in Ukraine and possibly other places down the line.
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svinayak wrote:
Anujan wrote:
The Houthi situation is fascinating: Saudis are attacking them, in Yemen! On top of that they claim that they are backed by Iran (hard to verify, most probably true). If this is true, Saudis would want to do some mischief inside Iran -- what better place to do IT exports from than Pakistan?
This is the start of the Sunni Shia war which will go on for long term. West has been successful in getting this war started in Middle east.
Yesterday at a traffic junction I saw next to my window a fat 50 year old woman in a burqa riding a scooter with another woman of similar age and attire sitting side-saddle pillion - both smiling and laughing as they made their way through rush hour traffic. Just to let the people of Pakhanastan and Crappy Arabia know how people live in other parts of the world.
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Tuvaluan wrote:Paki Ejaz Haider writes: "21st Bn the Azad Kashmir Regt on Pakistan Day as part of the UN Mission in Congo. #hail AK Regt! " -- so the buggers have now started a "Azad Kashmir" regiment to claim ownership of part of J&K. How chweet.
It has its origins in 1947-48 war when deserters from regular army & J&K State Forces (mostly Poonchi Muslims) were organised as adhoc companies & battalions.
Btw, Indian Army refers to it as POK Regiment! :wink:
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SSridhar wrote:
Anything is possible with the Pakis. Does AI carry Pakistani passengers transiting through Delhi? If they do for want of a few dollars, they must discontinue that practice immediately.
:rotfl: You can't make up this stuff
Kudos to the crew who instantly made the connection between Pakistan and terrorism. They deserve a reward
According to an email sent to Jet Airways pilots on Friday, which HT has seen, a passenger allegedly feigned illness and five others claiming to be doctors volunteered medical assistance. After examining the “sick” passenger, they insisted strongly on meeting the captain, but were refused permission.

“Their persistence was suspect and the captain refused to meet the doctors either inside or outside the cockpit,” reads the note.

According to aviation sources, this occurred on a recent Air India flight to London.

A check was subsequently carried out, which revealed the five were Pakistani nationals. “They were all Pakistan passport holders and their contact numbers, when tried, were found to be fictitious. The patient is also being considered a suspect,” the note says.
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kancha wrote: Btw, Indian Army refers to it as POK Regiment! :wink:
Hah, did not know that. :) Though I would think all of the members of this regiment are of pakjabi origin, given how the pakis treat the denizens of PoK.
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http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/islamabad/ ... w-leopards
Climate Change Federal Minister, Senator, Mushahid Ullah Khan on Friday pledged to converge conservationists and wildlife experts from all over the country on one platform and tap their expertise for conservation and protection of snow leopard in Pakistan, which is fast nearing extinction due to illegal hunting and various threats to it its habitat.....

“In recognition of present government’s efforts for protection and conservation of the snow leopard, I was unanimously elected as chairman of the 12-countries global steering committee of the Global Snow Leopard and Ecosystem Protection (GSLEP) programme, after representatives of the 12 range countries where snow leopard is found, voted in our favour,” the minister recalled.
Kyrgyzstan was elected as co- chair of the Global Steering Committee. The voting was held during the concluding session of the two-day first international steering committee meeting of the GSLEP programme at Bishkek in Kyrgyzstan on March 20 this year.

The countries, which cast their votes in Pakistan’s favour included: Afghanistan, Bhutan, India, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, China, Mongolia, Nepal, Russia, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, the minister said and added that this is a remarkable achievement for Pakistan, whose conservation efforts for the snow leopard and ability to lead other 12 snow leopard range countries was recognized at the Global Snow Leopard Conservation Forum. Mushahid Ullah Khan said that the beautiful cat, which lives in Pakistan’s north, is one of the most mysterious animals. “It is a symbol of impregnable and majestic mountains of Pakistan and is one of the main indicators of health of highland ecosystems,” the minister highlighted.
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Tuvaluan wrote:Paki Ejaz Haider writes: "21st Bn the Azad Kashmir Regt on Pakistan Day as part of the UN Mission in Congo. #hail AK Regt! " -- so the buggers have now started a "Azad Kashmir" regiment to claim ownership of part of J&K. How chweet.
Have existed since independence...
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rohitvats wrote: Have existed since independence...
Thanks, now I know. of course, the pakis have renamed it the "azad kashmir" regiment, but that is to be expected I suppose.
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The Yemeni Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden religion based sectarian conflict that is now seeing Sunni Mohammadden countries led by Saudi Arabia seeking to suppress Shia Mohammadden sect Houthi’s in Yemen, has spawned a couple of articles on the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

Shahshi Tharoor’s son, Ishaan Tharoor, writes an article titled “Pakistan’s long history of fighting Saudi Arabia’s wars” in the Washington Post :

Clicky

And Islamic Republic of Pakistan national Omar Warraich writes an article titled “Why Pakistan may be a reluctant ally in Saudis' Yemen campaign”in Al Jazeera :

Click Here
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 721977.cms
NIA to approach the Interpol to issue Red Corner Notices against two Pakistani High Commission officials
NEW DELHI: The National Investigation Agency (NIA) will be approaching the Interpol to issue Red Corner Notices against two Pakistani High Commission officials posted in Sri Lanka whose role has been established in multiple terror plots against India.

The home ministry has learnt that the two officials — Amir Zubair Siddiqui who served as Counselor (Visa) and a Pakistani intelligence officer Vineeth, alias Rana — have since been recalled to Pakistan.

The NIA has, however, got concrete proof in the form of Vineeth's voice on tape directing a Sri Lankan spy Arun Selvarajan to do a recee of sensitive defence installations in India which will help in future terror attacks.

NIA has procured latest photographs of the two officials and their e-mail records. "At some stage, Pakistan will be confronted with this evidence," a home ministry official said.

An NIA charge-sheet submitted on March 6, which has been accessed by ET, cites a confession made by Selvarajan that he had the habit of recording the conversation in micro cassettes between his handlers and him, since he wanted to keep a proof of his conversations so that he can demand fund from his handlers.

"The micro cassettes were recovered on 11.09.2014 from the possession of Selvarajan and forwarded to TNFSD, Mylapore, Chennai, for analysis. The result is yet to be received," the NIA chargesheet has said. A top ministry official said this could be a "clinching proof " of Pakistan's involvement.

NIA also has another strong piece of evidence in the form of a legally intercepted call of Selvarajan before his arrest last year when he was under surveillance.

"During one of the lawfully intercepted calls, Selvarajan has made a voluntary confession to one of his friends that he acted at the behest of Pakistan embassy officials in Sri Lanka, collected and disseminated vital information on Indian defence installations," the charge-sheet says.

Selvarajan worked as an employee in event management groups functioning at Chennai Port, Indian Coast Guard, Indian Army, etc., and could therefore enter prohibited areas. Selvarajan, on the pretext of being an event manager, also managed to visit other important sensitive instllations.
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It is unlikely that the PakArmy would get involved into a ground invasion into Yemen knowing the risks. They have positioned themselves very cosily.... :D
We have made no decision to participate in this war. We didn't make any promise. We have not promised any military support to the Saudi-led coalition in Yemen," Asif told parliament.

"In Syria, Yemen and Iraq, division is being fueled and it needs to be contained. The crisis has its fault lines in Pakistan too, (we) don't want to disturb them."

Mr. Asif did tell Reuters that Pakistan would step in should Saudi Arabia's territory be threatened, but that "there is no danger of us getting involved in a sectarian war."
Just as i had surmised the heavily mechanised Saudi Army is weak in Line Infantry and cannot conduct Mountain Ops by itself. Its two favourite stooges are also bogged down in internal conflicts.

If the Arabs had balls they would use the considerable SF capability among its partners to wipe out the Zaidi leadership.
Couple of things;

I really don't know where this 150,000 Saudi Combat Troops number is coming from because the Saudi Army in total is 150,000. Their actual combat strength is not more than ~85,000. One of the prime reasons they have required the services of Pakistani/Egyptian contingents in the past.

The actual infantry component in the kingdom is the Saudi Army National Guard which unlike the Army recruits exclusively from regimes own tribes and reports to the King directly. The National Guard is specifically deployed to protect the Saudi Royals against coups and increasingly to counter terror. IIRC, they should number around 95,000 and are spread all over the Kingdom and have also recently reinforced the restive Iraq border against ISIS chaps.

The Shia Zaidi's (aka Houthi's) are hardcore mountain fighters and have always retreated into the mountains where they have conducted an expensive attrition campaign against the enemy. This is not the first time the Saudi's have resorted to airpower against them and much bad blood exists between the two ever-since they were ousted from their lands in the East by the Saudi's. The Houthi's were once before obliterated by the Yemeni Army however have since grown immensely at the expense of the later.

The Saudi Army is not structured for a land campaign they are likely to face ie Mountain Warfare. They barely field 8 Infantry Brigades, out of which only 3 are Light Infantry ones which can take the fight to the enemy beyond the mountainous Najran region into the Zaidi controlled Al Jawf & Saada. In all, a lone Infantry Division plus worth of troops is what the Saudi Army can possibly muster for a foray into unknown mountain terrain. Where remote unconnected valleys would render their Mechanised forces a liability like the Soviets faced in Afghanistan while being reduced to protecting crucial lines of communication. This is ideal ambush countryside with an average altitude of 7,000 ft along the coast in the rebel's own backyard.
Here is a Topographic Map to better understand the terrain.

The climate is described as cold arid desert for the most part. The Sanaa Basin is a highland area with an average altitude of around 2200Metres AMSL.
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15-0. Your serve.
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SSridhar wrote:India willing to sell LNG to Pakistan: Pradhan - Business Line
India is willing to sell gas to Pakistan, Minister of State (Independent Charge), Petroleum and Natural Gas, Dharmendra Pradhan, said on Friday.

“Our public sector units are strong enough to sell LNG to Pakistan’s domestic sector at a cheaper rate than what the neighbouring nation is buying at currently,” he said. They gassification wil be done at the Discharge Port Terminal.

He, however, maintained that it was a diplomatic and geopolitical issue. A proposal to sell gas to Pakistan has been on hold since last year due to strained relations between the two nations.


Pradhan was speaking at the Urja Sangam 2015 here on the theme ‘Framing Energy Security - sustainability and responsible energy investments’.

Last year, GAIL India and Inter State Gas Systems, Pakistan, had almost concluded a pact for supply of 5 million metric standard cubic metre a day (MMSCMD) of lean gas to Pakistan for a period of 5 years. However, negotiations stalled after the Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi cancelled a round of diplomatic talks with the country last August.

Modi was upset as the Pakistani High Commissioner to India had held talks with separatist leaders prior to the proposed meet.

According to the deal, the LNG to be sold to Pakistan would be imported through terminals in Maharashtra or Gujarat and transported to Jalandhar using GAIL’s existing pipeline network. It would then have to be gassified to send to Pakistan.

Stressing on the importance of ties with neighbours in the area of energy, Pradhan said that while India could not be ignored at the world stage because of its sheer market size, “our responsibility is towards our neighbouring nations as well”, he said.

The country has engaged with neighbours such as Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal and Bhutan. “Energy from India’s hydrocarbons is reaching Bangladesh. Can we impact the world with our hydrocarbon…that is our challenge,” he said.
SSridhar Ji :

It seems that the Firsty perquisite of an Indian Politicain is to have fallen as a baby from a considerable height ON HIS HEAD. Alternatively the mandrins in the Ministry are even bigger ignoramuses than the Minister.

Anycase I do not favour any trade win Cwapiistan as they do not have the money to pay. However, should they want gas from India then India should include the cost of the Pipeline to supply the Cwapistanis and in addition India should take a Ten Year irrevokable guarantee from a Prime London Bank.

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It seems that the Firsty perquisite of an Indian Politicain is to have fallen as a baby from a considerable height ON HIS HEAD. Alternatively the mandrins in the Ministry are even bigger ignoramuses than the Minister.
Peregrineji, given how this nonsense does not change no matter who is in power -- it suggests that the "mandarins" somehow convince the politicians to do this "let's do business" with pakis over and over again, and also convince them that there is no other alternative. Or the business houses in India have considerably more say in Indian policymaking than we acknowledge. Like how the businesses are lining up for the AIIB/Chinese economic summit in the hopes of loans without coordinating with what the govt. has to say about it. But when these same companies get affected by states like China, they demand interference from the Indian govt. why this headless chicken routine by the same guys who want their fingers in everything going on inside India?
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Tuvaluan wrote: Peregrineji, given how this nonsense does not change no matter who is in power -- it suggests that the "mandarins" somehow convince the politicians to do this "let's do business" with pakis over and over again, and also convince them that there is no other alternative. Or the business houses in India have considerably more say in Indian policymaking than we acknowledge. Like how the businesses are lining up for the AIIB/Chinese economic summit in the hopes of loans without coordinating with what the govt. has to say about it. But when these same companies get affected by states like China, they demand interference from the Indian govt. why this headless chicken routine by the same guys who want their fingers in everything going on inside India?
I believe I have highlighted the relevant part. It is the business houses flexing their wishes through the babus. Ask some of the senior execs of Hyundai, Maruti Suzuki, Bajaj, Hero Motors, Nestle India, Hindustan Level (Unilever), Eicher, Whirlpool, Brittania and a host of other major business houses. (I have articulated this before, if I recall correctly..) With Dubai as a re-export hub (through the likes of businessmen of Indian descent) and with most of the above mentioned brands making inroads into the market there (with the Indian brand affiliations removed). It provides quite a bit of revenue for them in forex and otherwise. You will recall their own local industry at best makes some cotton towels, a cheap imitation of Roohafza and some other stuff (like the very famous metro train at the end of one of the videos in the multimedia links thread, the water propelled car and the ass (the animal as well as the posterior variety)-propelled missiles).
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