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India - South & North Korea Thread

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby nandakumar » 29 Dec 2017 11:17

India's import is roughly 200 million tonnes per annum. Out of this 50 million tonnes represents export of refined petrol products (principally by Reliance and to some extent Essar). Net consumption is only 150 million tonnes or thereabouts. India has a population that is 60 times as large as North Korea. So if we derate our consumption pro rata it works out to 2.5 million tonnes. If we adjust for differences in per capita income and for differences in levels of industrialisation compared to North Korea the reported level of oil consumption does not erode military capability of NK.

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Postby UlanBatori » 29 Dec 2017 14:02

Drums of war: Running dogs of capitalist imperialists board and seize peaceful PLAN ship transferring medicine for North Korean children.

TrumpTweets:
Caught RED HANDED - very disappointed that China is allowing oil to go into North Korea. There will never be a friendly solution to the North Korea problem if this continues to happen!

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby UlanBatori » 29 Dec 2017 17:51

BS competition out there. Read about the hanky-panky involved in this "ship2shipXfer" bijnej.

Seems stupid to me. Why put the ships so close together for this transfer? Why not moor both in a harbor, and set up an underwater pipeline with flexible connections at either end? Can't be that hard. Over a period of 1 week, one ship may be seen to rise a bit and other to go down a bit, but even that can be avoided through adjusting water ballast.

Surely they are smart enough to figure that out, so why do this, unless it is to :P and show the middle finger?

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby ashish raval » 29 Dec 2017 18:49

nandakumar wrote:India's import is roughly 200 million tonnes per annum. Out of this 50 million tonnes represents export of refined petrol products (principally by Reliance and to some extent Essar). Net consumption is only 150 million tonnes or thereabouts. India has a population that is 60 times as large as North Korea. So if we derate our consumption pro rata it works out to 2.5 million tonnes. If we adjust for differences in per capita income and for differences in levels of industrialisation compared to North Korea the reported level of oil consumption does not erode military capability of NK.

I took number from wiki which said consumption of 4,159,000 barrels per day in 2015 and added 20 percent growth till 2017 to round it off at 5 million barrels consumption. So it may not be entire truth when I said India imports 5 million and instead it should read India consumes approximately 5 million bbl per day including domestic and imported fuel. However even then in context of Noko considering Noko population as 1/50 of India. It's consumption of total of 5 million barrels for its military which is approximately the size of Indian military is too less add civilians and industrial complexes requirements to it including power generation and domestic transport. They can't survive without smuggling it.

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby ArjunPandit » 29 Dec 2017 20:49

UlanBatori wrote:Surely they are smart enough to figure that out, so why do this, unless it is to :P and show the middle finger?

Who knows ever since they kicked the mongol yak herders out (after taking his stuff) they are thinking themseleves to be oversmart and opponnets to be dumb and dumber

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby UlanBatori » 30 Dec 2017 07:39

More funny is Russian ship to NoKo ship Transfers. Why not just pump the stuff directly across the border? Who can detect a pipeline crossing if it is buried 6 feet deep?


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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby UlanBatori » 30 Dec 2017 17:21

It is the CPC that decides how US President should behave. Cheen Ophishial Spokesdummies sound like Malloostani soap opera characters, hain? :rotfl:

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby Dipanker » 30 Dec 2017 19:29

Russian tankers fuelled North Korea via transfers at sea: Sources

LONDON/MOSCOW: Russian tankers have supplied fuel to North Korea on at least three occasions in recent months by transferring cargoes at sea, according to two senior Western European security sources, providing an economic lifeline to the secretive Communist state.
The sales of oil or oil products from Russia, the world's second biggest oil exporter and a veto-wielding member of the United Nations Security Council, breach UN sanctions, the security sources said.

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby UlanBatori » 31 Dec 2017 07:51

(sigh!) So the NoKo regime survives another Dec. 31?
For THIS I sold my Mongolian stocks, hain?
Trouble is that my past record has been 100%: Had I followed my own common sense I would have become rich. And my sense is still that this tamasha cannot end without war.

For ooosatodin:
Former CIA director John Brennan has estimated the chance of war at 20-25%, while Richard Haass, president of the Council on Foreign Relations, puts the chance at 50-50%.
Others are more sanguine, noting that the United States and its allies have not mobilized for war, or even begun moving the masses of weapons platforms, ammunition and other supplies that would be needed to prosecute an all-out conflict.

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby JohnTitor » 31 Dec 2017 15:21

There won’t be war with NK. The Chinese will get involved and therefore it’d be too expensive for the US monetarily and in terms of bodies.

All this is mere posturing. Everyone knows that the Chinese are helping the Koreans build but no one will acknowledge it.

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby UlanBatori » 31 Dec 2017 16:11

The Oracle Hath Fa*ted:BBC quotes itself as news

The chilling warning from James Robbins, the BBC's Diplomatic Correspondent, comes amid growing concerns that a war will break out between the US and North Korea. Speaking to the BBC's Radio 4 about his predictions for the coming year, the respected journalist said the North Korean nuclear standoff will continue to dangerously deteriorate. Robbins revealed :roll: that the evacuation exercises and drills held by South Korean security and diplomatic missions "will become real as tensions grow". He said: "I am predicting that as a consequence of this collision between Trump and Kim Jong-un there will be a mass evacuation from the South Korean capital, Seoul."


There is already mass "evacuation" occurring in Londonistan, Foggy Bottom, Beijing and Pyongyang. Maybe Islamagood too.

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby DavidD » 31 Dec 2017 23:51

NK is actually getting close to being able use their nukes now, if war is to happen it'll happen soon. I tend to believe it'll happen. China would intervene, but again I wouldn't be sure it'd be to KJU's benefit.

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby Vips » 01 Jan 2018 03:50

If war happens and it goes nuclear or not China will be a big loser, China's only leverage of blackmail of South Korea and Japan will be done and over with.

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby UlanBatori » 01 Jan 2018 07:13

Happy New (clear) Year.
US closer to 'nukular war with North Korea' than ever before: Former Joint Chiefs head
"I don't see the opportunities to solve this diplomatically at this particular point."

In all fairness, he never did see any opportunities or much of anything else except to get himself promoted, IIRC. 2007-2011 is when the US slid on all fronts.

But Little Un has already achieved Peace:

United States will never be able to start a war against North Korea now that his country has developed the capability to hit all of the U.S. mainland with its nuclear weapons.

“The entire United States is within range of our nuclear weapons, and a nuclear button is always on my desk. This is reality, not a threat,” Kim said during a televised New Year’s Day speech.
This year we should focus on mass producing nuclear warheads and ballistic missiles for operational deployment,” Kim said. “These weapons will be used only if our security is threatened.”
.... Kim said it is imperative to lower military tensions on the Korean peninsula and improve ties with the South, adding the path to dialogue was open. Kim said he will consider sending a delegation to the Winter Olympics Games to be held in Pyeongchang, South Korea, in February. In fact they are already skiing bobsledding through tunnels in the mountains south of the DMZ.
“North Korea’s participation in the Winter Games will be a good opportunity to show unity of the people and we wish the Games will be a success. Officials from the two Koreas may urgently meet to discuss the possibility,” Kim said. South Korean President Lungi Shiver Moon Jae-in has said North Korea’s participation will ensure safety of the Pyeongchang Olympics and proposed last month that Seoul and Washington postpone large military drills that the North denounces as a rehearsal for war until after the Games.

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby Dipanker » 02 Jan 2018 00:33

Nuclear Button to Hit US "Always On My Desk", Says North Korea's Kim Jong

BEIJING:North Korean leader Kim Jong Un boasted in an annual New Year's Day speech Monday that he had a nuclear button on his desk and that the entire United States was within range of his weapons - but he also vowed not to attack unless threatened.

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby ArjunPandit » 02 Jan 2018 00:59

Dipanker wrote:Nuclear Button to Hit US "Always On My Desk", Says North Korea's Kim Jong

BEIJING:North Korean leader Kim Jong Un boasted in an annual New Year's Day speech Monday that he had a nuclear button on his desk and that the entire United States was within range of his weapons - but he also vowed not to attack unless threatened.

So they are going to attack him after office hours or when he's in loo ..oh he doesnt go to washroom because he doenst need to as per the movie.
Even UBCN is running fake news now...what to do..no diwali around yalu river..only high to the new year start is the sale of cannabis in CA

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby Philip » 02 Jan 2018 13:11

Sanctions aren't working as both China and Russia are allegedly supplying oil and goods to NoKo.This piece advcoates a naval blockade,but that extreme step will certainly lead to military conflict,plus it may be challenged by both China and Russia on the high seas as an inhumane act against the "innocent people of NoKo".As one British paper said,only a guarantee of the survival of the NoKo regime ,just as Castro's revolution Cuba and an agreement that the US would not invade it aw the Cuban crisis resolved.The same will have to be done in the case of NoKo.A freeze n his current capability in exchange for no more testing of N-weapons and strat. missiles. That will give the Young Un great honour and he can claim that he made the US blink first and secured the independence of the NoKo regime and dynasty.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/12/ ... might.html

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby UlanBatori » 02 Jan 2018 22:29

ArjunPandit wrote:So they are going to attack him after office hours or when he's in loo ..oh he doesnt go to washroom because he doenst need to as per the movie.

I can understand that the finer points of analysis may not be evident to all. Where do you think his desk is located, hain?

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The article shrewdly avoids aq khan's and hence pakistan's contribution to noko nook program. Didnt they give dingdongs in exchange

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby Philip » 03 Jan 2018 13:01

How China is bullsh*tting the world.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... rth-korea/
Secret Document Reveals China Covertly Offering Missiles, Increased Aid to North Korea
Party directive warns another nuclear test could lead to war and promises aid boost in exchange for testing ban


BY: Bill Gertz
January 2, 2018 5:00 am

China's Communist Party adopted a secret plan in September to bolster the North Korean government with increased aid and military support, including new missiles, if Pyongyang halts further nuclear tests, according to an internal party document.

The document, labeled "top secret" and dated Sept. 15—12 days after North Korea's latest underground nuclear blast—outlines China's plan for dealing with the North Korean nuclear issue. It states China will allow North Korea to keep its current arsenal of nuclear weapons, contrary to Beijing's public stance that it seeks a denuclearized Korean peninsula.

Chinese leaders also agreed to offer new assurances that the North Korean government will not be allowed to collapse, and that Beijing plans to apply sanctions "symbolically" to avoid punishing the regime of leader Kim Jong Un under a recent U.N. resolution requiring a halt to oil and gas shipments into North Korea.

A copy of the four-page Chinese-language document was obtained by the Washington Free Beacon from a person who once had ties to the Chinese intelligence and security communities. An English translation can be found here.

CIA spokesmen had no immediate comment on the document that could not be independently verified.
A Chinese Embassy spokesman did not return emails seeking comment.

Disclosure of the document comes amid reports China is continuing to send oil to North Korea in violation of United Nations sanctions, prompting criticism from President Trump. Trump tweeted last week that China was caught "red handed" allowing oil shipments to North Korea.

"There will never be a friendly solution to the North Korean problem if this continues to happen," the president stated on Dec. 28.

Release of the classified internal document is unusual since China's communist system imposes strict secrecy on all party policies. Exposure of the secret Central Committee directive could indicate high-level opposition within the party to current supreme leader Xi Jinping, who has consolidated more power than any leader since Mao Zedong.

China: Pressure on North Korea won't work
China's leaders, according to the document, concluded that international pressure will not force North Korea to give up its nuclear weapons, estimated to be at least 20 warheads.

As a result, the Central Committee of the party directed its International Liaison Department, the organ in charge of communicating with foreign political parties, to inform Pyongyang of China's continued backing.

The head of the Liaison Department, Song Tao, visited Pyongyang Nov. 17 and met with senior North Korean officials. North Korean state media did not provide details of the talks, other than to say issues of mutual concern were discussed.

The directive appears written in response to the United Nations Security Council resolution passed after the Sept. 3 North Korean nuclear test. Included among the resolution's new sanctions are restrictions on oil and gas transfers, including a ban on transferring oil between ships in open ocean waters.

On the U.N. requirement to shut down oil and gas transfers from China to North Korea, the party document said after North Korean businesses in China will be closed under the terms of the latest U.N. resolution, "our country will not for the moment restrict Korea from entrusting qualified Chinese agencies from trade with Korea or conducting related trade activities via third countries (region)."

A directive ordered the Liaison Department to offer a promised increase in aid for "daily life and infrastructure building" and a one-time increase in funds for North Korea of 15 percent for 2018. Chinese aid will be then be increased annually from 2019 through 2023 by "no less than 10 percent over the previous year."

The Chinese also promised the North Koreans that in response to calls to suspend all banking business with North Korea that the financial ban will "only apply to state-owned banks controlled by the central government and some regional banks."

On military support, the document reveals that China is offering North Korean "defensive military construction" and "high level military science and technology."
The weaponry will include "more advanced mid- and short-range ballistic missiles, cluster munitions, etc.," the document said.


"Your department should at the same time seriously warn the Korean authority not to overdo things on the nuclear issue," the document says.

"Currently, there is no issue for our country to forcefully ask Korea to immediately and completely give up its nuclear weapons. Instead, we ask Korea to maintain restraint and after some years when the conditions are ripe, to apply gradual reforms and eventually meet the requirement of denuclearization on the Korean Peninsula."

Beijing to warn Kim of ‘punitive measures'
The document then directs the Liaison Department to warn that if North Korea insists on acting rashly, further punitive measures will be imposed on senior North Korean leaders and their family members.

The directive lists "requirements" for the Liaison Department to pursue, including informing the North Koreans of China's "determination to protect the Korean government on behalf of the Central Committee of CPC."

Liaison officials also were tasked with informing the North Koreans of promises of support and aid in exchange for Pyongyang making "substantial compromises on its nuclear issues."

"According to the current deployment of world forces and the geographic position of the Korean Peninsula, to prevent the collapse of the Korean government and the possible direct military confrontation with western hostile forces led by the United States on the Korean Peninsula caused by these issues, our country, Russia, and other countries will have to resort to all the effective measures such as diplomatic mediation and military diversion to firmly ensure the peace and stability on the Korean Peninsula and to prevent ‘chaos and war,' which is also the common position held firmly by our country, Russia, and others," the report says.

The document states that if the United States "rushes to war" against North Korea, the conflict would have a huge impact on the political and economic state of the region and the world.

"At such a time, the security of Japan and (South) Korea can be hardly taken care of, especially the security of Seoul, the (South) Korean capital," the document says.
"Also, our country, Russia, and others will absolutely not look on the chaotic situation on the Korean Peninsula without taking any action."

The document states that China believes that "theoretically" western powers will not use military force to overthrow the Kim Jong Un regime to solve the nuclear issue.

"However, international provocations by Korea via repeatedly conducting nuclear tests has imposed huge international pressure on our country that is continuously accumulating and becoming unbearably heavy," the document says.

‘Stern warning' and ‘assurances'
The deal outlined in the document to be communicated to Pyongyang includes a "stern warning" combined with "related assurances to Korea at the same time."

"That is, currently Korea will not have to immediately give up its nuclear weapons, that so long as Korea promises not to continue conducting new nuclear tests and immediately puts those promises into action, our country will immediately increase economic, trade, and military assistance to Korea, and will add or continue providing the following benefits," the report states.

The first item then lists greatly increasing trade with North Korea to keep the government operating and to raise the living standard of North Koreans.

"As for products under international sanctions such as crude oil products (except for the related products clearly defined as related to nuclear tests), under the condition of fully ensuring domestic demand of Korea, we will only make a symbolic handling or punishment," the Party document said.

Past document leaks have included party documents on decision making related to the 1989 military crackdown on unarmed protesters in Beijing's Tiananmen Square published in the 2001 book The Tiananmen Paper.

A more recent disclosure in October was the release of an internal Communist Party document authorizing the Ministry of State Security, China's civilian spy service, to dispatch 27 intelligence officers to the United States to "crush hostile forces." That document was made public by exiled Chinese businessman-turned-dissident Guo Wengui.

Orville Schell, a China specialist who worked on the Tiananmen Papers, said he could not authenticate the document but said it has "an air of veracity."

"The language in Chinese is spot on party-speak, and the logic of the argument would appear to be congruent with the current line and what is happening," said Schell, director of the Center on U.S.-China Relations at the Asia Society in New York.

Columbia University Professor Andrew Nathan also could not authenticate the document but said it looks genuine. "The typeface, layout, header, seal, vocabulary, and diction are all those of an official inner party document," said Nathan who also worked on the Tiananmen papers.

Nathan said the document appeared to be a directive for International Liaison Department director Song Tao's mission to Pyongyang two months later, and Beijing's attempt to press North Korea to halt nuclear tests using a combination of incentives and warnings.

The Chinese language version uses some terms that reveal China's contempt for North Korea, such as the term "ruling authorities" for the Kim regime, something Nathan said is an "unfriendly" tone.

Former State Department intelligence official John Tkacik, a China affairs specialist, said the document appears genuine and if confirmed as authentic would represent "a bombshell" disclosure.

Tkacik told the Free Beacon the document, may be "evidence that China has no real commitment to pressuring North Korea to give up nuclear weapons, and indeed sees North Korean nuclear arms as an additional strategic threat to the United States, one that China can claim no influence over."
"Reading between the lines, it is clear that China views North Korea as giving it leverage with the U.S., so long as the U.S. believes that China is doing all it can do," Tkacik said.

Former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton said if the document is authentic, "it reveals China's policy to be completely cynical and utterly detached from its publicly stated position."

"The White House would have to react accordingly," he added.

Trump criticizes past N. Korea policies
Trump last week tweeted a video showing then-President Bill Clinton praising the 1994 Agreed Framework that Clinton said would freeze and ultimately dismantle the North Korean nuclear program.

The video also included a clip of Trump on NBC's "Meet the Press" from 1999 urging action then to stop the North Korean nuclear program in its early stages.

Trump told the New York Times after the tweet he was disappointed China is secretly shipping oil to North Korea. "Oil is going into North Korea. So I’m not happy about it," he said, adding that he has been "soft on China" for its unfair trade practices and technology theft.

"China has a tremendous power over North Korea. Far greater than anyone knows," Trump said Dec. 28, adding that "China can solve the North Korea problem, and they’re helping us, and they’re even helping us a lot, but they’re not helping us enough."

"If they don’t help us with North Korea, then I do what I’ve always said I want to do," the president added. "China can help us much more, and they have to help us much more … We have a nuclear menace out there, which is no good for China, and it’s not good for Russia. It’s no good for anybody."

The Trump administration has been signaling for months it is prepared to use military force against North Korea to rid the country of nuclear arms and missile delivery systems.

North Korea conducted several long-range missile tests in 2017 that U.S. officials have said indicate rapid progress toward building a missile capable of targeting the United States with a nuclear warhead.

Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said Dec. 29 that he has drawn up military options for operations against North Korea.

"I don't speculate, as you know, about future operations by our forces," Mattis told reporters. "But with three U.N. Security Council resolutions in a row, unanimously adopted, each one has put significantly more pressure on the North Korean regime for its provocations, for its outlaw activities. I think you will see increased pressure. What form that pressure takes in terms of physical operations is something that will be determined by the Congress and government."

Asked if the United States is closer to war with North Korea, Mattis said: "You know, I provide military options right now. This is a clearly a diplomatically led effort with a lot of international diplomatic support. It's got a lot of economic buttressing, so it's not like it's just words. It's real activities."

China backs N. Korea as buffer zone
The party directive states that China regards North Korea as a strategic "buffer zone" needed to "fend off hostile western forces." Ideologically, North Korea also is important to China in promoting its vision of "socialism with Chinese characteristics led by our Party" and identifying North Korea as "irreplaceable."

According to the document, the Party regards the "continuity of the Korean government," maintaining peace on the Korean Peninsula and one of its unwavering goals.

"This issue is about the peace and stability of the Korean Peninsula and the fundamental interests of our Party, our country, and all Chinese people," the document concludes, adding that the department should quickly coordinate with the Foreign and Commerce Ministries and other agencies to develop an operational plan to implement the policy "to ensure the sense of responsibility, to strictly maintain related confidentiality, and to seriously accomplish the heavy tasks entrusted by the Central Committee of CPC."

The document bears the seal of the General Office of the Communist Party Central Committee, the office in charge of administrative affairs. Copies were sent to the administrative offices of the National People's Congress, State Council, and Central Military Commission.

The internal document states that the new policy toward the North Korean nuclear issue is based on consultations among key power organs within the ruling party, including the Central Committee and State Council, along with what was termed "the guiding spirit" of meetings held by the National Security Commission, headed by Chinese leader Xi Jinping.

"After research and assessment, the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China decided to authorize your department to lead and organize the communication and coordination work with the Korean administration on its nuclear issues," the document states.

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby Dipanker » 03 Jan 2018 14:20

Dipanker wrote:Nuclear Button to Hit US "Always On My Desk", Says North Korea's Kim Jong

BEIJING:North Korean leader Kim Jong Un boasted in an annual New Year's Day speech Monday that he had a nuclear button on his desk and that the entire United States was within range of his weapons - but he also vowed not to attack unless threatened.


This was expected:

Trump Tweets His ‘Nuclear Button’ Is ‘Much Bigger’ Than Kim Jong-un’s

“Will someone from his depleted and food starved regime please inform him that I too have a Nuclear Button, but it is a much bigger & more powerful one than his, and my Button works!”

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby wig » 03 Jan 2018 15:05

meanwhile as DT and NK compare their dongs, in other news

http://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/03/asia/ ... index.html

I suppose everyone is waiting for a second call
North Korea and South Korea established contact for 20 minutes on a hotline that's been dormant for almost two years Wednesday, a major diplomatic breakthrough following a year of escalating hostility that could pave the way for future talks.

The country's leader Kim Jong Un gave the order to open the line at 3.00 p.m local time (1:30 a.m. ET), according to an announcement on state media in the hours before the call.
According to South Korea's Unification Ministry, the North Koreans made the call at exactly the time ordered, and the sides were on the phone from 3:30 p.m. local to 3.50 p.m. local time (South Korea is half an hour ahead of North Korea).
It's not known what was said but the South Koreans said the two sides "checked technical issues of the communication line."

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby UlanBatori » 03 Jan 2018 21:02

Now revealed: the full text of the Historic Diplomatic Breakthrough HotLine Call.

Note that SoKo has been calling EVERY DAY for the past 2 years:
But nobady answered, when ah called yore naaame!
:((

Now todin when they called, it was different.
Allo! Korean Repubric Army calling Northern pigs. Come in, pigs! Our President Lungi-shiver moon has invited you to send 2 piglets to the Winter Orympics.


Slave running dogs of imperialist war-mongers! Prostitutes! Our Great Leader's nuclear mijjiles will turn your Seoul sin city into a Sea Of Fire!


President Moon! We have a Diplomatic Breakthrough!!
:roll:

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby UlanBatori » 03 Jan 2018 21:10

Can't tell if DT senses this, but time is running out and he is being neatly cornered by the unholy combo of Eleven, CNN, Putin and the Republicans. It's a case of the old nursey rhyme.

Let's to bed! said Sleepy Head.
"Tarry a while!" said Slow.
"Put on the pan!" said Greedy Nan.
"Let's sup before we go!"


Right now what we are seeing is that Moon is totally sold out /Finlandized by terror of PRC. Another 6 months and it's all over: Nuclear-armed NoKo, and PRC owning the Phillippine Sea and the Sea of Japan, and Formosa. American power in East Asia a thing of the past.

The USA has to attack NOW.

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby ashish raval » 04 Jan 2018 00:08

Guess easiest way for South Korea is to give free tour of 1 week to each North Koreans. After they have seen south Korea they will have their lives back home and it should be cake walk once people are aware how developed South Korea is.

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby RKumar » 04 Jan 2018 02:31

India should stay clear of this NK business, it is creation of China and its gonna come back to bite them hard. It is battle of nerves, USA should have taken it out in mid 2017. By giving it more time, they have increased their risk multiple times. Now, it may be better for them to suck their thumbs and hope NK only barks. Keep tight control on what comes and goes out of NK and let frustration build in little ding dong. When dog goes mad, it bites its masters :lol:

Or let NK make any foolish move which they can use to hit hard NK.

It's going to be a slow but interesting game.

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby Prem » 04 Jan 2018 04:56

http://theweek.com/speedreads/746504/no ... eport-says
North Korea accidentally hit one of its own cities with a missile, report says


the missile was launched from an airfield just over 40 miles north of North Korea's capital city of Pyongyang. An unnamed U.S. official explained to The Diplomat that due to an engine malfunction, the projectile made it only a minute into its test flight and traveled about 25 miles northeast before hitting the ground.The Diplomat cross-referenced the failed missile's approximate landing site with Google Earth and other satellite imaging to find that the suspected landing area did indeed seem to show signs of "considerable damage to a complex of industrial or agricultural buildings." Several structures appeared damaged in satellite images, reportedly by debris from the failed launch.While there have been no confirmed reports of deaths in Tokchon as a result of the failed missile test, the images published by The Diplomat seem to show that the missile came perilously close to exploding in more densely inhabited areas, marking the risk of test launches. North Korea has launched two ballistic missiles since August, both of which flew over Japan and landed cleanly in the Pacific Ocean — but one concerning possibility put forward by The Diplomat is that a future missile could explode prematurely over Japan, which would "spark a serious crisis in Northeast Asia."

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby ramana » 04 Jan 2018 05:07

Nice time pass

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby UlanBatori » 05 Jan 2018 13:54

"What the North told the South"per Soko papparazzi.
The North said no and that it would call back when it did have something to say, according to the ministry.
:rotfl:
If u want the real scoop pls c above UBCN's uncensored report.

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby ashish raval » 05 Jan 2018 18:40

UlanBatori wrote:"What the North told the South"per Soko papparazzi.
The North said no and that it would call back when it did have something to say, according to the ministry.
:rotfl:
If u want the real scoop pls c above UBCN's uncensored report.

Sir, can someone taking interview effing remind Biden that he was effing VP for 8 years before last and what did his government do to stop this situation or making Americans secure than they are now? Supplying cheese burgers to Kim Un and hoping that he will did becoming fat? Lol

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby UlanBatori » 05 Jan 2018 21:10

Supplying cheese burgers to Kim Un and hoping that he will die becoming fat?

You're not kidding. That sounds far more realistic than any other Regime Change plan that the WHOTUS seems to have at this point. Unless he dies due to :rotfl:
I think the real leader of NoKo is a thin scrawny guy like Ho chi Minh, and they put this Tubby up front just to do :P at the US of A. And :rotfl: at the reaction he elicits.

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby ArjunPandit » 05 Jan 2018 22:10

UlanBatori wrote:"What the North told the South"per Soko papparazzi.
The North said no and that it would call back when it did have something to say, according to the ministry.
:rotfl:
If u want the real scoop pls c above UBCN's uncensored report.

Are they playing minesweeper on windows XP???

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby ashish raval » 06 Jan 2018 05:43

UlanBatori wrote:
Supplying cheese burgers to Kim Un and hoping that he will die becoming fat?

You're not kidding. That sounds far more realistic than any other Regime Change plan that the WHOTUS seems to have at this point. Unless he dies due to :rotfl:
I think the real leader of NoKo is a thin scrawny guy like Ho chi Minh, and they put this Tubby up front just to do :P at the US of A. And :rotfl: at the reaction he elicits.

Quite possible :rotfl: :rotfl: playing poker with khans..it looks to me Kim Jong will become redundant as their military becomes more powerful over time. He will just be a face. Looking at mean special forces videos of NoKo and their numbers, it will not be a cakewalk for anyone to invade Korea as long as their supply of fuel is cut off completely.

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby UlanBatori » 08 Jan 2018 22:06

I am really depressed that the US seems to have turned into a whimpering cur instead of a growling Alsatian, and basically surrendered to PRC/NoKo. And that with no debate at all on the policies. This does not make any sense. Wonder what is coming.

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Re: India - South & North Korea Thread

Postby Rudradev » 08 Jan 2018 22:14

Pakistan.

Seriously. It is JUST possible that Trump et al have decided:
1) there is no easy win in NoKo, especially with Lungi Shiver Moon in charge of SoKo and Japan reluctant to have the US fight a war on its soil. Worst of all, PRC itself running the blockade with impunity, and making sure sanctions are useless against NoKo.

2) Instead of rising directly to the Fatboy Kim bait, the retaliation must be directed laterally, at some other place where they have the capacity to cause the Chinese a lot of grief.

3) therefore, pick some other place to hit back and cause the Chinese an equal amount of pain in retaliation. Somewhere the Chinese are heavily invested strategically as well as H&D wise. Pakistan.

Time will tell if this kite of mine flies. Look for a severe uptick in new jihadi groups attacking TSPA and ISI targets inside Pakistan and disappearing to sanctuaries across the Durand Line. Look for the Baluch freedom struggle to heat up all of a sudden. Look for such things to happen independently of the "Haqqani #3s" that Pakistan will no doubt begin supplying in the hope of refilling their begging bowls (i.e. not as coercive measures but as punitive measures).

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