Yayavar wrote:So US is being considered having been challenged and put in a bind. What is in it for N Korea? What concessions does it get?
Is Cheen squeezing it to take the risks, if so, what is Cheen giving in addition or not taking away for this service? US out of Pacific or Indo-china sea or Guam are for Cheen's benefit. NK could continue as before.. n'est-ce pas ?
Maybe cheen has won the Hearts and Minds of the NoKo regime? (by "Yes Minister" method)
Does KimUn have any choice other than to obey?
But I realize that is a circular argument: The answer to "Why is NoKo threatening suicide?" cannot be "Because NoKo is afraid of China". Or can it?
If that were the case, what would happen if KimUn came on TV and said: "Beloveds-On-A-Diet! Let us stand up to bullying by cheen foreigners, and reunite with our friendly coujins to the south!"
Would US put FIA (Fighters In The Air) and BOG to protect Pyongyang? Or would KimUn be whisked off to the Gobi Le-Education Centel too quickly? Maybe KimUn has no choice, but to live under the assurance from Eleven:
Don't worry tubby! Roundeyes won't attack, we have won their Hearts & Minds!
So then the question comes: Why is Eleven so sure? Do we really have a Manchurian Candidate - and not the one we thought? BTW, has anyone investigated the cheen connections of CNN I wonder... we have all been saying that for a long time, but it is now so blatant!
Yayavar's other question is what is the long-term end-game promised to NoKo?
If they get away with this, US influence in the region will shrink fast (reports in the China thread speak of nations already Finlandized by watching US impotence re: Spratlys), and SoKo will lean MUCH more towards cheen. Already sentiment inside SoKo is maybe 55-45 in favor of cheen vs. US: something about Chinese Invading soldiers being much better-behaved in Korean War towards South Korean civilians than their US/UN Protectors. End of US threats to NoKo, followed by swift unravelling of sanctions. NoKo becomes cheen's AliBaba outlet for nukes at "lo-lo prices!"
SoKo minus US nukes is like Bhutan minus IA support. Ripe for the picking. May become a province of the great PeeAllSee for all we know.