Eastern Europe/Ukraine [Feb 6th 2015]

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Shreeman wrote:The putin has gone missing rhetoric matches the Kim not seen, Castro not seen, is chavez dead nonsense is now front page. They really have reduced putin to hitler in the western media.
The fun part is the more he is demonised in West the more Russians Like him and his ratings go up.

So he wouldt might being Hitlerised in Western media :rotfl:

http://www.hd.se/kultur/blogg/wp-conten ... hitler.jpg
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Deans wrote:Since the West has gone ape over the death of Nemtsov (Putin's critic), its interesting to see what's happening to
Chocolate's opponents in the last 2 months.

January 26th: Mykola Serhiyenko, former first deputy chief of Ukrainian railways, committed suicide, shot himself with a rifle
January 29th: Oleksiy Kolesnyk, former Kharkiv regional government head. Hanged himself.
February 25th: Sergey Walter, Party of Regions mayor of Melitopol. Hanged himself
February 26th: Oleksandr Bordyuh, chief police deputy of Melitopol. Hanged himself
February 28th: Mykhaylo Chechetov, deputy chairman of Party of Regions. Jumped from his apartment window
March 10th: Stanislav Melnik, Party of Regions deputy. Shot himself.
March 12th: Oleksandr Peklushenko, former Party of Regions governor of Zaporizhia. Shot himself.
Effectively those close to previous President are getting eliminated.

Ofcourse the Western Media wont make a hue and cry over it
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UK snubs US to join China-led Asian bank
March 13, 2015, 5:25 am
Overlooking US censure, the UK has announced its decision to join China’s Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, becoming the first “major western country” to apply for membership.
“I am delighted to announce today that the UK will be the first major Western country to become a prospective founder member of the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, which has already received significant support in the region,” said UK Finance Minister George Osborne on Thursday.
Public Human Health Advisory: Employees and customer of AIIB, please do not bring your children to work, pee-dophyls (royals) are here
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^^ Has to be trojan implant.

The britshits wont shit without asking daddy US.
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Another of those hilariously foolish articles from New York times. I suffered reading the shit, so should you.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/15/world ... .html?_r=0
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http://www.dw.de/more-than-100-germans- ... a-18316900
More than 100 Germans fighting for separatists in eastern Ukraine.
http://www.rferl.org/content/east-ukrai ... 01779.html
Poroshenko Submits Bill Granting Special Status For East Ukraine
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This was due under the minsk deal.

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/03/15 ... p-EU-deals
The Ukrainian president has announced an end to European Union’s embargo of arms sales to the country, adding that Kiev has sealed military deals with 11 EU states that include delivery of lethal arms.
Oh, the peace loving honorable christian states of Europe.
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Putin: was probability of putting nuclear forces on alert after change of power in Kiev

We did not want to push our way through but we were forced to do that, Russian President said

VLADIVOSTOK, March 15. /TASS/. After a change of power in Kiev Russia could have declared putting its nuclear forces on an alert, Russian President Vladimir Putin admitted in an interview with the authors of the documentary Crimea. The Path to the Motherland that was aired by Russia’s television channel Rossiya 1 on Sunday.

"Of course, it was not immediately clear /what will be the reaction to Crimea’s reunification with Russia/. That is why, on the very first stage of work I had to instruct our armed forces correspondingly. Not merely to orient them but to issue direct instructions," the president said.

When asked whether it meant that Russia’s nuclear forces had been put on an alert, Putin said, "We were ready to do that. We did not want to push our way through but we were forced to do that."

The president said he had spoken with "colleagues and told them that it /Crimea/ is our historic territory, where Russian people are living who are in danger and we cannot leave them." "It was not us to stage a state coup, it was done by nationalists and people with extremist views," Putin noted. "You supported them but where are you? Thousands kilometres away? But we are here, this is our land! What you are going to fight for? Do youn know? We do. And we are ready for that."

"This is an honest and open position. And this is why I think no one wanted to unleash a global conflict," the Russian president said, adding he had been ready for "the most unfavourable development of the situation.".
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RSoami wrote:
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/03/15 ... p-EU-deals
The Ukrainian president has announced an end to European Union’s embargo of arms sales to the country, adding that Kiev has sealed military deals with 11 EU states that include delivery of lethal arms.
Oh, the peace loving honorable christian states of Europe.
For Indians start highlighting Christian on Christian war and fighting.
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Putin in film on Crimea: US masterminds behind Ukraine coup, helped train radicals
The Ukrainian armed coup was organized from Washington, Russian President Vladimir Putin stated in an interview for a new documentary aired Sunday. The Americans tried to hide behind the Europeans, but Moscow saw through the trick, he added.

The trick of the situation was that outwardly the [Ukrainian] opposition was supported mostly by the Europeans. But we knew for sure that the real masterminds were our American friends,”Putin said in a documentary, 'Crimea - The Way Home,' aired by Rossiya 1 news channel.

“They helped training the nationalists, their armed groups, in Western Ukraine, in Poland and to some extent in Lithuania,” he added. “They facilitated the armed coup.”


Putin said this approach was far from being the best dealing with any country, and a post-Soviet country like Ukraine specifically. Such countries have a short record of living under a new political system and remain fragile. Violating constitutional order in such a country inevitably deal a lot of damage to its statehood, the president said.

“The law was thrown away and crashed. And the consequences were grave indeed. Part of the country agreed to it, while another part wouldn’t accept it. The country was shattered,” Putin explained.

He also accused the beneficiaries of the coup of planning an assassination of then-President Viktor Yanukovich. Russia was prepared to act to ensure his escape, Putin said.

“I invited the heads of our special services, the Defense Ministry and ordered them to protect the life of the Ukrainian president. Otherwise he would have been killed,” he said, adding that at one point Russian signal intelligence, which was tracking the president’s motorcade route, realized that he was about to be ambushed.Yanukovich himself didn’t want to leave and rejected the offer to be evacuated from Donetsk, Putin said. Only after spending several days in Crimea and realizing that “there was no one he could negotiate with in Kiev” he asked to be taken to Russia.

The Russian president personally ordered preparation of the Crimean special operation the morning after Yanukovich fled, saying that “we cannot let the [Crimean] people be pushed under the steamroller of the nationalists.”

“I [gave them] their tasks, told them what to do and how we must do it, and stressed that we would only do it if we were absolutely sure that this is what the people living in Crimea want us to do,” Putin said. He added that an emergency public opinion poll indicated that at least 75 percent of the people wanted to join Russia.

“Our goal was not to take Crimea by annexing it. Our final goal was to allow the people express their wishes on how they want to live,” he said.

“I decided for myself: what the people want will happen. If they want greater autonomy with some extra rights within Ukraine, so be it. If they decide otherwise, we cannot fail them. You know the results of the referendum. We did what we had to do,” Putin said.


READ MORE: 95.7% of Crimeans in referendum voted to join Russia - preliminary results

He added that his personal involvement helped expedite things, because the people carrying out his decision had no reason to hesitate.

According to Putin, part of the operation was to deploy K-300P Bastion coastal defense missiles to demonstrate Russia’s willingness to protect the peninsula from military attack.

“We deployed them in a way that made them seen clearly from space,” Putin said.

The president assured that the Russian military were prepared for any developments and would have armed nuclear weapons if necessary. He personally was not sure that Western nations would not use military force against Russia, he added.

The Russian president said the move to send Russian troops to secure Crimea and allow a referendum to be freely held there prevented major bloodshed on the peninsula.

“Considering the ethnic composition of the Crimean population, the violence there would have been worse [than in Kiev]. We had to act to prevent negative development, not to allow tragedies like the one that happened in Odessa, where dozens of people were burned alive,” Putin said.


He acknowledged that there were some Crimean people, particularly members of the Crimean Tatar minority, who opposed the Russian operation.

“Some of the Crimean Tatars were under the influence of their leaders, some of whom are so to speak ‘professional’ fighters for the rights of the Tatars,” he explained.

But at the same time the “Crimean militia worked together with the Tatars. And there were Tatars among the militia members,” he stressed.

The Crimean people voted in a referendum to join Russia after rejecting a coup-imposed government that took power in Kiev in February 2014. The move sparked a major international controversy, as the new government’s foreign backers accused Russia of annexing the peninsula through military force.

Moscow insists that the move was a legitimate act of self-determination and that the Russian troops acted only to provide security and not as an occupying force. Russian officials cite the example of Kiev’s military crackdown on the dissenting eastern Donetsk and Lugansk regions, which claimed more than 6,000 lives since April 2014, as an example of bloodshed that Russia acted to prevent in Crimea.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/ ... OY20150315
Ukraine's president says truce not working, urges more Russia sanctions: newspaper
:eek: :eek:

A few hours ago he had said that there were no Ukbapzi casualty for a long time. Now he is saying that the truce is not working because Pro-Russian militia is firing. Are they firing in air?!

Looks like he got a call from Washington. Afterall, its only the Americans who are working hard to prove how the truce is not working. Poroshenko, the ungrateful clown, must do his part in pushing this narrative.
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And now freedom of speech too. As supported by the EU.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/arti ... 17437.html
Cameraman Detained in West Ukraine Amid Media Crackdown.
In connection with his work as a cameraman, the detainee stands accused of having helped engineer news stories that "not only promoted terrorism and justified the crimes of the insurgents of the terrorist organizations [the rebel-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk people's republics], but also called for violations of the territorial integrity of Ukraine, consciously contributed to fueling violence and discord in [Ukraine's] east and the destruction of the civilian population."

He was apprehended while vacationing in the Khmelnitsky region on March 13, though the SBU only revealed the news Sunday.
The detentions come amid what appears to be a broad crackdown on pro-Russian media coverage in Kiev-controlled Ukraine. Markiyan Lubkivsky, a high-level SBU advisor, told local news channel 112 on Sunday that more than 100 Russian journalists have been deported from Ukraine.
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The bugger is following the well-dragged path taken by the Hungarian and Czech idiots b4 the vodka streamed in.
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There is something unusual about the sudden quiet, except for porky making some inconvenient noises.

Ukraine rearming is going along fine. I dont see why the propaganda should go away from the media right now to the extent it has. People will have totally forgotten ukraine like georgia, serbia, or mali. The west wants a pakistan. On the boil, until rearmed.

There is something going on behind the scenes.
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http://thesaker.is/when-the-kiev-army-h ... ore-tanks/

Longish but informative article (translated) by a Russian analyst, on the tank strength of Ukraine.
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Vladimir Putin says Russia was preparing to use nuclear weapons 'if necessary' and blames US for Ukraine crisis in Crimea documentary
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 09615.html

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He also revealed that as part of the operation to take control of the peninsula, Russia deployed K-300P Bastion coastal defence missile “in a way that made them seen clearly from space” as a military deterrent to the perceived threat of attack from the West.

And on Russia’s willingness to arm nuclear weapons if necessary, Mr Putin said: “We were ready to do this ... (Crimea) is our historical territory. Russian people live there. They were in danger. We cannot abandon them.”

The documentary comes as speculation continues to grow about Mr Putin's 10-day absence from public view. After a number of cancelled meetings in the past week, the opposition TV station Dozhd reportedly cited anonymous sources on Sunday saying the leader was recuperating from the flu in one of his country manors outside Moscow.

On Monday, he is scheduled to take part in a meeting with the president of Kyrgyzstan, in what would be his first public appearance before the news media since 5 March.

Other admissions made by Mr Putin in the documentary, which was entitled “Crimea: The Road Back Home”, were that he ordered the defence ministry to deploy elite units to Crimea “under the cover of strengthening the protection of our military facilities”.

But despite admitting this subterfuge, Mr Putin said Russian troop numbers in the peninsula never exceeded the 20,000 allowed under the terms of basing its Black Sea fleet there.
The Yanquis love to shoot from another's shoulder.They have no guts to face-off with the Russians anywhere on the globe.They're already sh*tting bricks afraid to annoy China! If the balloon goes up in the UKR again,that will spell the end of the EU as we know it. The Russians and Putin will not hesitate to use open deployment of Russian forces now that US,UK and EU troops/advisers are desperately trying to beef up the UKR's mil strength in the aftermath of their humiliating defeats.
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Phillip,

The 3/16 meetings for putin may or may not happen. There is a fair bit of stature loss here. Over the last ten days. A news release here/there would have been good, but everyone is on edge.

Situation will not clarify itself today. Lets see what is reported.
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^ :rotfl:
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RSoami wrote:Another of those hilariously foolish articles from New York times. I suffered reading the shit, so should you.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/15/world ... .html?_r=0
Gen. Boguslaw Pacek, an adviser to the Polish defense minister and the government’s chief liaison with these paramilitary groups, marched with them. He has been making the rounds in recent months of such gatherings: student chapters like this one, as well as groups of veterans, even battle re-enactors.
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You say rumors, I say trial baloons.
You say meems, I say troll brigade ammunition.
You say no harm done, I say one rehearsal and response test complete.
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Funny that the Russian media mentioned that even this meeting happened in the past and quickly removed it in a while. Wonder what gives. I think this meeting happened in St Petersburg.

Perhaps another meeting or two should confirm.

But the fact that he ordered large Artic drills does hint a bit though --> Putin seems to be in control
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Putin is staging a massive Arctic naval exercise with more than 40 warships and subs participating and 40,000 troops. Nice pic in one report showing tanks swimming towards the beach from an LST.

Putin looking very well for a man who died last week
http://rt.com/op-edge/241297-putin-myst ... th-rumors/

Rise of far-right in Europe: ‘We are heading to new Third Reich’
Published time: March 16, 2015
We are witnessing historical flashback to Nazi Germany as a new generation of white extremists is seeking supremacy and a purer Europe, spreading anti-Islamic sentiment across the region, political analyst Catherine Shakdam told RT.

Clashes broke out in the German city of Wuppertal on Saturday as Salafist Muslims, right-wing extremists and the anti-Islam PEGIDA movement simultaneously held rival protests.

RT: PEGIDA marches are now fairly common in Germany. How worrying is that for society?

Catherine Shakdam: I think it is a worrying development especially since we are kind of witnessing a historical flashback. It looks like the 1930’s Germany, when the Third Reich was getting momentum, and that is what we are witnessing currently not just in Germany, but across Europe.

RT: What is driving these far-right movements, and causing them to target Islam, especially in Europe?

CS: I think you have to go back to 9/11 and the type of narrative that came out of Washington. And then afterwards how it was actually built on from London to Berlin, to Spain, everywhere across Europe we have seen that narrative. Islam has been associated with terrorism. Muslims became essentially by instance radicals and terrorists.

And this is the type of narrative that the media has fed the public in Europe. And now we are seeing the results of this fear and discontent, reinforcement that Islam is something negative, that Muslims are ultimately violent and inherently radicals.

RT: So who would you blame for creating these tensions in the first place?

CS: I would say that again, we need to go back to [those] who are serving those movements and who helped to create radicalism, to begin with. We have to go back to the USA; they are the ones who admittedly created al-Qaeda. This is where everything started back in the 1980’s when they were trying to push back the Russians from Afghanistan, and they tried to use radicals to do their job. Essentially it backfired. Since that time we’ve seen those radicals gaining momentum across not just Europe, but the Middle East and the Islamic world in general. This is something that served their own agenda; they understood that they could use religion as a rallying call to serve their own agenda.

RT: Muslims complain that they're facing growing hostility in Europe, due to the rise of Islamic State and the Charlie Hebdo massacre. But do you think Muslim communities have done enough to disassociate themselves from the more hard-line elements in Islam?

CS: That is very difficult because when we talk about terrorism and Islamic radicalism we are not actually talking about Islam. I think that many scholars and clerics have proven time and time again that the type of rhetoric that radicals are holding is completely anti-Islamic. Nothing they do, nothing they believe is related to Islam. It is very difficult for Muslims to distance themselves because they do not understand those movements; they do not liken themselves to those movements or those ideologues. Therefore, you’re basically asking Muslim people, 1.6 billion people around the world, to collectively bear the guilt of the very few and it is very difficult as a Muslim to understand that logic. Great majority of Muslims do not understand those people and do not recognize them as being Muslim at all. We need to go back to the idea of radicalism and try to understand that it’s completely divorced from religion. It has nothing to do with religion, it is political. Their motives are, what they want is to gain more territories and more power. It has nothing to do with God, and nothing to do with Islam.

RT: Far-right movements are making political gains in several countries - The National Front in France, Golden Dawn in Greece, Lega Nord in Italy to name just a few. Where could this lead?

CS: We need to ask ourselves if we want to see a repeat of the Third Reich. I’m afraid that is where we are heading. People need to understand that even though it all started with anti-Muslim and anti-Islamic sentiment across Europe; those people - like Nazi Germany - would not just stop at Muslims. We are talking about a lot of minorities. This movement is essentially a white extremist movement. What they want is white supremacy because they are calling for ethnic minorities to leave - whether it’s Germany, or Greece, or France, whatever. What they are looking for is essentially go back to a purer Europe. And again we’re going back to the type of narrative that came out of Germany in the 1930’s.
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Interesting move by Ukrainian parliament. Has basically 'acted' on the federalization aspect through the parliament... but with riders. Calls the east 'temporarily occupied territories' and says it can accept fed only after elections and that too has to be recognized by the Ukies... doesn't look very friendly and the Ruskies concur and are upset about it.
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Crimea.A year on. Return to Russia the right decision.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... Putin.html
Crimea, one year on: the Night Wolves howl for Putin

Many residents are still elated over the annexation of the Ukrainian peninsula but critics face threats and prosecution - and a crude nationalisation process is crushing private enterprises

The leader of the "Night Wolves" Alexander Zaldostanov takes part in a motor rally in Sevastopol, Crimea Photo: Alexander Aksakov/Getty Images
By Tom Parfitt, Sevastopol

7:06PM GMT 17 Mar 2015
With a roar and a rumble, the Night Wolves swept through Sevastopol and parked their motorcycles in a crescent on the edge of Nakhimov Square.

Behind them came a column of cars flying the banners of Sevastopol Without Fascism (SWF), a group which organised the rally in this storied port on the southwest coast of Crimea.

“Look how happy people are,” said Alexander Zaldostanov, 52, the Wolves' leader, as he dismounted and a crowd of well-wishers gathered around him.

“By the will of God and through the hands of President Putin, the years of humiliation under Ukrainian rule are over.” On Wednesday, Russia marks the first anniversary of its annexation of Crimea, and festivities have been taking place since the weekend.

Condemned in the West as a flagrant breach of international law, the seizure of this Russophone peninsula from Ukraine is seen by many here as a triumph of justice and a riposte to Western hypocrisy.

Jubilee events are taking place across the region as dissent against Moscow's rule is smothered and militiamen confiscate businesses in an opaque nationalisation programme.

Mr Zaldostanov, also known as The Surgeon, is close to Vladimir Putin. With his scuffed leathers and jagged neck tattoo, he is a national celebrity in Russia and the most exotic of a new vanguard of ultra-patriots helping shore up the president's rule.

This week, Mr Putin told a television documentary that he had planned the takeover of Crimea weeks in advance and was ready to put Russia's nuclear weapons on alert if the conflict escalated.

In Sevastopol Mr Zaldostanov was greeted as a hero on Monday at the “Roads of the Russian Spring” rally. A year ago, the Night Wolves helped patrol streets in the port as self-defence groups surrounded Ukrainian military bases and government offices, and Russian special forces began to infiltrate Crimea. That preceded a disputed referendum which approved joining Russia on March 16, followed by the official annexation two days later.

On the square, locals rushed forward to ask for Mr Zaldostanov's autograph or to take a picture with him. A grey-haired lady in a fluffy pink hat nestled under his arm.

“After Crimea, the life of all of Russia changed,” the biker said, to murmurs of approval from the crowd. “Even in the world there were tectonic shifts. For the first time we showed resistance to the global Satanism, the growing savagery of Western Europe, the rush to consumerism that denies all spirituality, the destruction of traditional values, all this homosexual talk, this American democracy.

“And it is this town that did it most of all, that stood up to that and changed so much - a Stalingrad of the 21st century.” Sevastopol has long occupied a treasured place in the Russian mind. Tsarist troops including Count Lev Tolstoy struggled against British, French and Turkish forces in its “first defence” during the Crimean War in the 19th century. In the second, Soviet soldiers fought off Nazi attacks during the Second World War.

Nikita Khrushchev, the Communist leader, moved Crimea from Russian to Ukrainian control inside the Soviet Union in 1954. When the union collapsed decades later, the region stayed part of the new state of Ukraine, although Moscow struck a deal to keep its Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol.

Now a “third defence” of the city has entered local lore. In February last year, pro-Western demonstrators took over Kiev, Ukraine's capital, and Viktor Yanukovych, the Kremlin-leaning president, fled to Russia.

Meanwhile, in the towns of Crimea, men had began to gather in groups.

“We wanted to be ready to repel any kind of Ukrainian attack or provocation,” explained Mikhail Nichik, a member of SWF. “We started thinking how we would defend ourselves with baseball bats and iron bars. We figured out who'd done military service, who could give a knife-fighting course.” Within days, self-defence units like SWF were blockading Ukrainian military bases and government offices. Women also took part. Natalya Malyarchuk, 52, headed out with her dog Esger, a Central Asian wolfhound, to serve at a checkpoint on the edge of the city. “I was prepared to stand to the death,” she recalled this week.

The volunteers say they were frightened and angered by Ukrainian nationalists who promised to subdue Crimea.

While eastern Ukraine, or Donbas, spiralled into war, there was no fighting in Crimea. Yet in Sevastopol the “third defence” is seen through a prism of centuries of martial glory. Its veterans wear fatigues and a medal awarded by the Russian ministry of defence.

The volunteers were not long alone. By the beginning of March “little green men” had appeared over their shoulders - armed soldiers in unmarked uniforms sent by Mr Putin. Soon Crimea was “returned to the motherland”, to the fury of Kiev and its Western allies.

“My father was an admiral in the Black Sea fleet,” said Mr Nichik. “He died in November 2013 just as the coup was starting in Kiev. Six months later I went to his grave and told him - Papa, now, at long last, you are on Russian soil.'” Across Crimea, the euphoria is not universal. With Russia's writ comes not just the primary colours of patriotism, but the full spectrum of authoritarian rule.

Since Moscow's takeover, police and security forces have moved to intimidate independent reporters and pro-Ukrainian activists.

Last week, three young men, Leonid Kuzmin, Alexander Kravchenko and Veldar Shukhurdzhiyev, were sentenced to 40 hours of manual labour for holding a small gathering in a park in Simferopol, the Crimean capital, on the anniversary of the birth of Taras Shevchenko, the father of Ukrainian literature. During it they held up a Ukrainian flag. About 20 people attended and some read poetry.

Two days later, Mr Kuzmin was sacked from his job as a history teacher.

“The director of the school called me into his office and told me I was an agent of the US State Department,” he said.

On Saturday, two militiamen detained Mr Kuzmin, 24, and Mr Kravchenko, 25, as they met a correspondent from a Polish television station. They were handed to police and taken for three hours of questioning by officers at Centre E, a department tasked with fighting “extremist activity and terrorism”.

“One of them took me aside and said: 'You can either behave yourself or there are two options: deportation or prison',” said Mr Kravchenko, who wears an embroidered Ukrainian shirt as a sign of defiance.

Journalists are also facing coercion. Earlier this month, prosecutors opened a criminal case against an investigative reporting group with members in Simferopol for “open calls to violate the territorial integrity” of Russia. In the offending article, the author had described Crimea as occupied territory.

“They're searching our homes, listening to our phones,” said one reporter who in the region who asked not to be identified. “A lot of journalists have already fled and others write under pseudonyms. There are few real ones left who are brave enough to speak out.” Crimea's native Tatar community, many of whom opposed the annexation and boycotted the referendum on joining Russia, complains of repression. In the last year, five Tatars have been found dead after going missing in mysterious circumstances and four more disappeared, according to Ilmi Umerov, a former deputy speaker of Crimea's parliament. Two of the community's leaders are banned from entering the peninsula.

In Simferopol, the self-defence forces that sprang up a year ago now appear a doubtful inheritance. After the annexation, they were formalised as a “people's militia”, allowing them to carry batons, wear uniform and take on a quasi-policing role. “The problem is that their powers are unclear and they do what they're told, with impunity,” said Andrey Krisko, a rights activist.

The forces answer to Sergei Aksenov, Crimea's leader, who was reportedly known in mafia circles as The Goblin in the 1990s.

Such militiamen have become increasingly visible as the footmen in a series of dubious property seizures. A nationalisation programme began last year by focusing on the assets of Ukrainian businessmen. It soon moved on to fill government coffers by swallowing private enterprises worth tens of millions of pounds.

“About 35 men in black uniforms and masks and carrying truncheons barged into our head office last month,” said Margarita Levashkina, one of 260 stakeholders in a cooperative that runs markets, shops and food warehouses, and employs 100 people in Bakhchysaray district. “They occupied our rooms, changed the locks and pushed us out. Then they falsified documents and held a fake meeting to appoint a new chairman whom we'd never heard of. It was naked banditry.”

All appeals to local police, courts and government fell on deaf ears, as did a request for help to Mr Putin in Moscow. “I get the impression that the laws of Russia do not apply in Crimea,” said another stakeholder. “We were robbed, plain and simple.” In Sevastopol, a mood of elation persists.

“Yes, there may be problems ahead, but we did not do this in order to weep and whine,” said Olga Makhonina, 38, who runs a souvenir business with her husband. “We have made our choice to be with Russia. There's no going back to Ukraine.” Some admit a sadness. “I was ready to stay in Ukraine if they respected our language, respected our history and let us choose our own local government,” said Yevgeny Repenkov, 59, who rode at the front of the motor rally on his Yamaha Dragstar.

“Instead, we saw this rabid nationalism and months of Molotov cocktails and an elected president forced from power. I don't regret our decision for a minute but there is a certain feeling of something lost.” Mr Zaldostanov, The Surgeon, was less reflective. “The only way out of the war in Donbas, in order for Ukraine to avoid default and chaos, is for the whole country to integrate with Russia,” he said, before clarifying: “At least the parts that want to.”
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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/03/18 ... ease-fire/

The headline says - Ukrainian rebels make new threat to abandon cease-fire

Of course the rebels have not said any such thing but they sure are upset about this -
A law on granting autonomy to eastern territories was approved by parliament Tuesday, but with a number of changes that have drawn sharp criticism from Moscow-backed rebels and Russia alike.
Foremost among the rebels' objections is a requirement for elections -- to be held under Ukrainian laws -- to take place before the special status can come into effect.
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And Ukraine needs more and more money.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-fin ... 1426561963
Her argument is that "no one is paying more to protect the world from a nuclear power that is an aggressor" than Ukraine, and if its allies won't help fight Russia, they should at least cough up more money.
:D
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This is regarding Moldova.
http://rbth.com/news/2015/03/18/lavrov_ ... 44583.html

Poroshenko wants transniestria conflict to be unforzen. Hmmmm
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Why hasn't Choco-Poro contacted the Pakis? They're experts at waging war ,like Poro and like him always being on the losing side. Bad enough that he got his ar*e tanned and singed royally by Putin,he now wants a bum-chum to suffer a similar humiliation in the form of Moldova! The Hungarian PM has read the tea leaves right.He has resisted all efforts by the EU to drag Hungary into the conflict and is on excellent terms with Putin and Russia. So too has the new Greek PM read the writing on the wall. The die-hard anti-Russian Cold War mentality in Foggy Bottom and Whitehall principally,is leading these midget E.European states into utter chaos and disaster in the long term. If anyone knows hardship and how to handle it in Europe,the Russians know it best.They aren't going to kowtow to the US/West/EU at anytime now or in the future. In fact the greater danger is that Russia will continue to improve its relationship with China,both political and military.A Sino-Russo combine against the US and its cronies in the Asia-Pacific region would be disastrous for the US. India will never get embroilied in such a spat on the side of the US and will remain neutral.
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RSoami wrote:And Ukraine needs more and more money.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-fin ... 1426561963
Her argument is that "no one is paying more to protect the world from a nuclear power that is an aggressor" than Ukraine, and if its allies won't help fight Russia, they should at least cough up more money.
:D
Ukraine truly is another Pakistan, right from the "pay us more as we are sacrificing for your well being" charade to being ruled by nazi fascists with a history of genocide.
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Austin wrote:Putin: was probability of putting nuclear forces on alert after change of power in Kiev

We did not want to push our way through but we were forced to do that, Russian President said

VLADIVOSTOK, March 15. /TASS/. After a change of power in Kiev Russia could have declared putting its nuclear forces on an alert, Russian President Vladimir Putin admitted in an interview with the authors of the documentary Crimea. The Path to the Motherland that was aired by Russia’s television channel Rossiya 1 on Sunday.

"Of course, it was not immediately clear /what will be the reaction to Crimea’s reunification with Russia/. That is why, on the very first stage of work I had to instruct our armed forces correspondingly. Not merely to orient them but to issue direct instructions," the president said.

When asked whether it meant that Russia’s nuclear forces had been put on an alert, Putin said, "We were ready to do that. We did not want to push our way through but we were forced to do that."

The president said he had spoken with "colleagues and told them that it /Crimea/ is our historic territory, where Russian people are living who are in danger and we cannot leave them." "It was not us to stage a state coup, it was done by nationalists and people with extremist views," Putin noted. "You supported them but where are you? Thousands kilometres away? But we are here, this is our land! What you are going to fight for? Do youn know? We do. And we are ready for that."

"This is an honest and open position. And this is why I think no one wanted to unleash a global conflict," the Russian president said, adding he had been ready for "the most unfavourable development of the situation.".
Thirty years from now PBS will air documentaries about how Ukraine-Crimea crisis was "close to nuclear midnight" like the Cuban missile crisis.
And how Obama let wisdom prevail and drew back from the cauldron and saved the world.
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May be Obama might win another Noble at the end of his tenure for saving the world from Nuclear War , So two for him :)
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Re: Eastern Europe/Ukraine [Feb 6th 2015]

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there is a bit of light fighting. the light armor has shipped to ukr. ammo should have come with the recent nato exercises. ukranians wont setup a peaceful framework for the rebels. summer should be hot.
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May be Obama might win another Noble
The way things r going, BO may become Second POTUS to use nyoo-klear weapons - how else is US going to 'win' against ISIS without getting routed in Afghanistan by the Pakis? Alternative is that Eyerak will become a state of Eyeran, which should be a very interesting outcome for Dubya's adventure to Liberate Eyerak. See already - Eyeranian ground troops liberating Kirkuk and Mosul while Americans watch with properly-named 'Drones'.

And my guess is that Comrade Vlad is mentioning nukes so freely, for a good reason. Gentle offer to be made in summer for Peaceful Evacuation of Kiev in order to receive plenty of vodka.
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http://www.dw.de/on-crimea-anniversary- ... a-18323719
Vladimir Putin has signed a treaty with a Georgian breakaway region. Critics say the move paves the way for Russia to annex South Ossetia.
"International Community" has condemned this. `International community` does not like Russia. Also `International community` has refused to like this development on facebook.
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:rotfl:
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http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/03/19/ ... n-ukraine/

An informative article explaining how democracyy and rule of law has been obtained in Ukraine despite evil Russians trying to sabotage them. Thank you EU for your `values`.
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Note the list of countries boycotting this informal session

Russia, China, Venezuela, Angola skip informal UN Security Council meeting on Crimea

http://tass.ru/en/russia/783935
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Re: Eastern Europe/Ukraine [Feb 6th 2015]

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/ ... 3V20150319
Ukraine stuck on an IMF dripfeed a year after Crimea seizure
So $17.5 billion is dripfeed.
Besides, the article explains how and why countries like Pukistan and Ukraine remain perennial beggars and get their money nevertheless.
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Re: Eastern Europe/Ukraine [Feb 6th 2015]

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Jai ho Ukraine PM.
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/413b977a ... z3Uua1mC8p
Ukraine PM warns EU against Putin’s divide-and-conquer tactics.
“Russia is constantly provoking the EU and Nato, starting with submarines and ending with Bear jets flying across the borders of Nato member states,” Mr Yatseniuk said in an interview in Brussels, where he was meeting with EU leaders holding a two-day summit.
“Russia is trying to create turbulence in the EU through supporting far-right political movements,” he added. “This is a copycat case of what they did in Ukraine.” :eek:
Ukrainian officials have repeatedly attempted to stiffen the EU’s resolve by sending their leaders to Brussels during summits — President Petro Poroshenko has attended three summits since taking office in June. Mr Yatseniuk acknowledged his visit was aimed at ensuring the recent ceasefire deal reached in Minsk is not used as an excuse to weaken sanctions.
So what does Ukraine achieve through the economic sanctions on Russia? Russia is the largest trading partner of Ukraine. Weakening of Russian economy means it will be trading less with ukraine weakening Ukraine`s economic situation. The morons are only interested in American support. Nothing else.
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Re: Eastern Europe/Ukraine [Feb 6th 2015]

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31962644
Ukraine conflict: Inside Russia's 'Kremlin troll army'

Putin the terrible is employing hundreds of people to comment negatively about `International Community` and its internationally recognised humane mission to civilise the world. :eek:

I feel bad for the gullible international community readers who cant think for themselves and get trolled by those evil Russians.

So what was the need for this article. Is it because noone believes anything remotely related to statements made by International community leaders.

BTW, since I am trolling for free, where can I apply to earn some extra?!
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