Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22 2015

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Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22 2015

Postby arun » 22 Apr 2015 20:03

Link to last page of previous thread.

The following links are background material on Pakistan.

UNDERSTANDING PAKISTAN:

Jinnah's Pakistan: An Interview with MA Jinnah, and how the Pakistan of Yesterday is the Pakistan of Today
http://iref.homestead.com/Messiah.html

http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/_files/012809Tellis.pdf

The above is the testimony of Ashley Tellis on Jan 28th 2009, to the US Senate Homeland Security Committee on LeT's global role. It is a good articulation of LeT's past and future trends.

Know Your Pakistan
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... /Shiv.html

The Monkey Trap: A synopsis of Indo-Pak relations
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... ayyam.html

PAKISTAN-FAILED STATE: an ebook that owes its origin and existence to BRF.
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/EBOOKS/pfs.pdf

Whither Pakistan ? Growing Instability and Implications for India: an IDSA e-Book, July 2010
http://idsa.in/book/WhitherPakistan

A landmark article that demolishes myths built up about Pakistan
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers8/paper710.html

Pakistani Role in Terrorism Against the U.S.A
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... yanan.html

Pakistani Education, or how Pakistan became what it is: Curricula and textbooks in Pakistan
http://www.sdpi.org/publications/public ... 6-34.html#

Making Enemies, Creating Conflict: Pakistan's Crises of State and Society. A book written by Pakistanis on Pakistan.
http://members.tripod.com/~no_nukes_sa/Contents.html

Should Pakistan Be Broken Up? by Gul Agha
http://pakistan70.tripod.com/gul.html

A modest proposal from the Brigadier:

https://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/2002/03/landesman.htm

"We should fire at them and take out a few of their cities—Delhi, Bombay, Calcutta," he said. "They should fire back and take Karachi and Lahore. Kill off a hundred or two hundred million people......."


Alden Pyle in Pakistan, Part I
http://pundita.blogspot.com/2009/12/ald ... art-1.html

Prof. Walter Russell Mead, "Pakistan's Failed National Strategy"
http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/ ... -strategy/

"Pakistan Is", by Barry Bearak in New York Times Magazine, December 7, 2003.
Brings out succinctly various facets of Pakistani perfidy, obsession, fundamentalism etc.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... nted=print

Religion as the Foundation of a Nation: The Making and Unmaking of Pakistan - P.K. Upadhyay, IDSA
It probes the religious and sectarian fault-lines in Pakistan in depth to determine their impact on the future of Pakistan.
http://idsa.in/system/files/monograph36.pdf

Ms. Christine Fair's exposition on Pakistan military, society et al. A Must see.
Fighting to the End: Pakistan Army's Way of War

False Equivalency in the "Indo-Pakistan" Dispute - Ms. C. Fair, War on the Rocks, June, 2015

Shia-killing in Pakistan: Background and Predictions - A blog by Omar Ali


PAKISTAN and GENOCIDE:

Image Scan of article on 1971 East Pakistan Genocide by Antony Mascarenhas, Former Asst. Editor, Morning News, Karachi in Sunday Times, London, June 13, 1971

Text scan of the above article on 1971 Genocide

Bangladesh Genocide Archive

Ethnic cleansing in Pakistan - a statistical analysis
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... idhar.html

A chronicle of genocide by the Pakistan army
http://www.gendercide.org/case_bangladesh.html

Documentary video evidence of Pakistani genocide in Bangladesh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x-94U1bVUQ
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EBKlIUbpc ... re=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sMg9Ly9nK0g
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xwwPbkyZV ... re=related

PAKISTAN & TERRORISM:

The Ideologies of South Asian Jihadi Groups (Laskar-e-Taiba)
By Hussein Haqqani (journalist and Pak ambassador to US)
http://www.futureofmuslimworld.com/rese ... detail.asp

Lashkar-e-Taiba: Past Operations and Future Prospects, Stephen Tankel, April 2011
New America Foundation
http://newamerica.net/sites/newamerica. ... _LeT_0.pdf


Pakistani sponsoring of Terrorism
http://www.geocities.com/charcha_2000/
http://pak-terror.freeservers.com/Terro ... y_Tool.htm

Terror Map: The Pakistani Hand
http://sify.com/news/specials/terrormap/?vsv=TopHP1

Inside Jihad - How Pakistan sponsors terrorists in India
http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/ ... r_sb1.html

Pakistan's Role in the Kashmir Insurgency - Op-ed by Rand's Peter Chalk
http://www.rand.org/hot/op-eds/090101JIR.html

Alden Pyle in Pakistan, Part II
http://pundita.blogspot.com/2009/12/ald ... -upon.html

BEYOND MADRASAS: ASSESSING THE LINKS BETWEEN EDUCATION AND MILITANCY IN PAKISTAN
http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/ ... nthrop.pdf

Pakistani Military Officers' Links with Jihadist Organizations
http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/5587.htm

Putting Our Children in Line of Fire - The Nation, January 27, 2013
The above is an admission by Pakistan Army's Top General that it was the Pakistani Army at Kargil, not the mujahideen, and Musharraf was the Culprit

Debate between a Taliban Scholar and a Paki Army Officer


PAKISTAN and NUCLEAR PROLIFERATION:

Pakistani nuclear scientist's accounts tell of Chinese proliferation - R. Jeffrey Smith and Joby Warrick, Washington Post, Nov 13, 2009

PAKISTAN TODAY:

On the Frontier of Apocalypse: Christopher Hitchens seminal article on Pakistan today
http://newsstuff.0catch.com/article5.htm

http://meaindia.nic.in/bestoftheweb/2002/10/14bow2.htm

A Slender Reed in Pakistan - Editorial in the Christian Science Monitor
http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/1229/p08s03-comv.html

Seymour Hersh Interview
http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_hersh.html

Pakistan's Nuclear Crimes (Wash. Post editorial)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dy ... 2-2004Feb4

http://www.indiadefence.com/LOA07Aug04.htm

The Battle for Pakistan: Militancy and Conflict in Pakistan's Tribal Regions
http://counterterrorism.newamerica.net/ ... r_pakistan

BOOK REVIEW Fulcrum of Evil: ISI-CIA-Al Qaeda Nexus
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/%5Cpap ... r1844.html

Article from Vinni Capelli - Foreign Policy Research Institute:
Containing Pakistan: Engaging the Raja-Mandala in South-Central Asia
http://www.fpri.org/orbis/5101/cappelli ... kistan.pdf

The videos are from this documentary: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/taliban/

A bomb at all cost By Ahmad Faruqui - a candid admission of the wars that Pakistan started against India.

Popular support for suicide bombings in pakistan.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 008_pg12_1
Survey by university students in karachi say 50% of respondents support suicide bombings in kashmir.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OWsmJIwe9Q4
"Descent into Chaos"
UC Berkeley Conversations with History, host Harry Kreisler talking with Pakistani Journalist Ahmed Rashid. 59 minutes 120 MB. It sums up Pakistan and lays bare all Pakistan's terrorist support and proliferation activities. **Note - he wants the US to solve Pakistan's Kashmir problem.

Pakistan on the brink: Video Link (must download)

MISCELLANEOUS

UNSC Resolutions on Kashmir

Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto telling Bangladeshis to "Go to Hell": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dsxfyxa ... re=related

IDSA's weekly summary of Pak Urdu Press:

http://www.idsa.in/pup


Christine Fair :Ten fictions that pakistani defense officials love to peddle

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Five installment series by Kapil Komireddi published in Frum Forum

Part I. Nov 16, 2009. “Pakistan In Crisis”.

Part II. Nov 18. 2009. “Pakistan: Origins of A Failed State”.

Part III. Nov 18, 2009. “Pakistan: It Could Not Succeed Unless India Failed”.

Part IV. Dec 06, 2009. “Pakistan: A Mecca for Radical Islam”.

Part V. Dec. 07, 2009. “Pakistan’s Army: Building a Nation for Jihad

A perceptive blog on Pakistan: http://pak-watch.blogspot.com/

Declassified documents from US National Archives on Pakistan:

http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/pakistan/pakistan.htm
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Admission of state sponsored terrorism by Pakistani authorities


see this Der Spigel Interview where Musharraf admits to that.

On 7th Nov in TimesNow Channel, Tasneem Noorani, a former Secretary of the Pakistani Interior Ministry, openly said that.

Kiyani called the Haqqanis as strategic assets.

In Dec. 2008, President Zardari himself admitted to ISI helping LeT. He said,"The links between the Inter-Services Intelligence Agency and the LeT were developed in the old days when dictators used to run the country. After the 9/11 terror attacks in the US, things have changed to a great extent"

In an address to bureaucrats in July 2009, President Zardari said: "Militants and extremists were deliberately created and nurtured as a policy to achieve some short-term tactical objectives. Let us be truthful to ourselves and make a candid admission of the realities. The terrorists of today were the heroes of yesteryears until 9/11 occurred and they began to haunt us as well"

In Nov. 2009, Prime Minister Gilani admitted to the support for terrorism by Musharraf as "running with the hares and hunting with the hounds".

When Bush warned the Pakistanis in August 2008 of their support to Al Qaeda, Afrasiab Khattak, President of Awami National Party (ANP) said this: "The question is why it has taken the Americans so long to see what the ISI is doing. We’ve been telling them for years but they wouldn’t buy it.". See here.

In an interview to the BBC as far back as on Feb. 13, 1994, Benazir Bhutto admitted how she handed over to Rajiv Gandhi the complete list of Sikh activists colluding with the ISI in terrorism in the Punjab. Later, Nawaz Sharif described this interview as a faux pas.

Apart from these, of course, numerous Pakistani commentators, analysts, and editors have openly admitted to terror as a state policy.

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Why Did Pakistan's Spy Chief Make a Secret Trip to China?
Quote:
Pasha's China trip has been interpreted by some as a tacit act of defiance—a reminder to his American counterparts that the Pakistanis can always look east to their “all-weather” friend across the Himalayas rather than bend the knee to the will of the U.S.

But it also may be a sign of China's growing disquiet with Pakistan. Another top-ranking Pakistani military officer, Lt. Gen Wahid Arshad, had already conducted a considerable tour of China just weeks ago in a bid to improve ties. A few analysts have suggested that Pasha's trip — couched in vague terms about building a “broad-based strategic dialogue” — may have been less a visit and more of a summons.


Quote:
Chinese officials claimed the attacks in Kashgar were authored by the shadowy East Turkestan Islamic Movement, a jihadist organization of mostly ethnic Uighurs, a Turkic Muslim minority that comprises the majority in the far-western Chinese region of Xinjiang. China routinely invokes the specter of the terrorist threat when cracking down on dissent in the restive region. Yet disturbances there tend to be triggered more often by social discontent — many Uighurs chafe at state policies they deem discriminatory and marginalizing — than militant connivance. Pasha's presence in Beijing may mark Beijing's continued efforts to root out Uighur dissidents and sympathizers beyond China's borders, as it has already done in Kazakhstan.


Youtube video: Bilatakalluf with Tahif Gora: Tarek Fateh dissects with Pakjabi society and shows how its war-impotent Army loots the common Pakistani (Jan 13, 2012)
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Postby arun » 22 Apr 2015 20:04

‘True Love,’ ‘Iron Brother’: Xi’s Pakistan Visit Prompts Waves of Laudatory Prose :

WSJ’s China Real Time Blog

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^^^ True Love indeed :lol:

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Postby Satya_anveshi » 22 Apr 2015 20:30

They feel so hot looking at each other as to melt glaciers and increase sea levels. Phuckers are contributing to global warming :(( :((

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Postby pankajs » 22 Apr 2015 20:36

Is that pose sharia compliant?

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Blokeback Mountain

starring Apdul Al-Bendoveri And Iron Birather

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Postby arun » 22 Apr 2015 20:58

Meanwhile with hat tip to Jhujar, more "True Love" from the pen of cartoonist Manoj Kureel:

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Postby Falijee » 22 Apr 2015 21:02

RE: THE WOLF AND THE FOX :roll:

In order to propagate his fantasy views, a lot of facts were swept under ( his country's dirty ) carpet- by this disgraced diplomat - as the readers' comments clearly show!
(1) China- India cooperation and the emergence of BRICS
(2) The wolf gifting $ 250 million to the Land of the Pure
(3) No mention of the Uighur problem
(4) And the List goes on and on.....

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Zardari laundered money through Ayyan: Zulfiqar Mirza

COMMENT:" Des Percenti " in trouble - again ! :rotfl:

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Pakistan: The Most Dangerous Place

COMMENT : Author analysizes Pakistan in a post 911 scenario; new article in INDIAN DEFENCE REVIEW.

QUOTE: Today, it is well proven and acknowledged worldwide that the roots of Pakistan’s jihadism lie in its obsession with India, born out of the two-nation theory.

QUOTE:Obama’s observation on one of the world’s most opaque tribal areas of Pakistan’s North West region bordering Afghanistan got vindicated, even more unequivocally this time on December 16, 2014, when terrorists of Teherik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) butchered 132 innocent children of the Army Public School in Peshawar, all in the age group of eight to eighteen years.

QUOTE: George Bush’s famous words after 9/11 said to garner support of his allies in to a coalition for launching the Enduring Freedom, “…either you are with us or against us” changed the discourse and definition of the campaign against terrorism. The Pakistani establishment, which found itself at the crossroads, was left with no other choice but to go the US way.
QUOTE:
The strategic relevance of Pakistan leaves Uncle Sam with no other option other than buying guarantees of peace in Afghanistan through aid.

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Falijee wrote:Zardari laundered money through Ayyan: Zulfiqar Mirza

COMMENT:" Des Percenti " in trouble - again ! :rotfl:


I refuse to believe that pukies could do something original - even in corruption. I bet the - Hot Model - Cash Courier system is / was a very popular Indian hawala invention specially used by D - Company which introduced this funtastic system to the pukies as a return gift for hospitality. Our own C- System will have many such models on pay rolls. Just needs some fine vacuuming.

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Postby Falijee » 22 Apr 2015 22:07

Gwadar port operationalisation: India, US need to redraw maritime strategy


QUOTE :Gwadar gains importance due to its strategic location at the mouth of the Persian Gulf,

QUOTE:Gwadar is expected to have the capability of handling up to 19 million tons of crude oil per year which will be refined at the port itself and then sent to China through the Gwadar-Kashgar pipeline that is on the drawing board.
Any forumites can throw light on this ?

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Postby MurthyB » 22 Apr 2015 22:42

arun wrote:Meanwhile with hat tip to Jhujar, more "True Love" from the pen of cartoonist Manoj Kureel:

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Kureel is exaggerating quite a bit. Packee wimmins don't look that good.

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Falijee wrote:Gwadar port operationalisation: India, US need to redraw maritime strategy


QUOTE :Gwadar gains importance due to its strategic location at the mouth of the Persian Gulf,

QUOTE:Gwadar is expected to have the capability of handling up to 19 million tons of crude oil per year which will be refined at the port itself and then sent to China through the Gwadar-Kashgar pipeline that is on the drawing board.
Any forumites can throw light on this ?


1. Anything is possible.
2. Few things are probable.
3. The 51 MoUs http://www.dawn.com/news/1177129/detail ... o-pakistan do not include an oil refinery or oil storage at Gwadar. Doesn't mean it isn't going to be built.
4. MoUs or framework agreements are not binding commitments.
5. Even if a project is started, changing economic conditions can render it non-viable.

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MurthyB wrote:
arun wrote:Meanwhile with hat tip to Jhujar, more "True Love" from the pen of cartoonist Manoj Kureel:

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Kureel is exaggerating quite a bit. Packee wimmins don't look that good.


Look at her chin more closely. Are you sure it is a 'she' ? :twisted:

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Rediff.com » News » Xi's Pakistan visit: High on substance, low on values
Xi's Pakistan visit: High on substance, low on values


QUOTE:Considering Modi’s style of practicing diplomacy, it is likely that a clear message would be conveyed to China that it is high time Beijing stops using its good relations with Pakistan as a pressure tactic against India.

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Ten lodestars from Xi’s Pakistan visit

By ( Pro Chini ) M.K. Bhadrakumar

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Falijee wrote:QUOTE:Considering Modi’s style of practicing diplomacy, it is likely that a clear message would be conveyed to China that it is high time Beijing stops using its good relations with Pakistan as a pressure tactic against India.

One way to do that would be to sign some MoUs with Vietnam including intent to sell Brahmos missiles?

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Falijee wrote:Rediff.com » News » Xi's Pakistan visit: High on substance, low on values
Xi's Pakistan visit: High on substance, low on values


QUOTE:Considering Modi’s style of practicing diplomacy, it is likely that a clear message would be conveyed to China that it is high time Beijing stops using its good relations with Pakistan as a pressure tactic against India.


The article says "Interestingly, China has already made a down payment of $28 billion towards the project." {the Pakistan economic corridor}.

Have you seen anywhere else an actual Chinese commitment that goes beyond MoUs and framework agreements?

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Postby A_Gupta » 23 Apr 2015 01:27

http://www.wsj.com/articles/chinas-xi-j ... 1429533767
"In total, the economic corridor project aims to add some 17,000 megawatts of electricity generation, at a cost of around $34 billion. "

From all accounts this is expensive. E.g, Tata Power is building 1320 megawatts of electricity generation in Vietnam for $1.8 billion; i.e. $1.36 billion per gigawatt of installed capacity. China is doing $2 billion per gigawatt.

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Postby Tuvaluan » 23 Apr 2015 01:51

partha wrote:One way to do that would be to sign some MoUs with Vietnam including intent to sell Brahmos missiles?



already done

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 965272.cms

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Postby Vipul » 23 Apr 2015 02:51

Their "energy expert" Arshad Abassi was :(( that how come China is building power plants which will cost 9.5 cents per unit in Pakistan when they are also setting up the same in Bangladesh at 5 cents per unit. He said chinese are building power plants based on critical/ultra critical technology in Bangladesh, whereas they are only building conventional thermal plants in Pakistan.

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Postby ramana » 23 Apr 2015 03:18

^^^ Maybe Bangladesh coal is darker and more energetic?

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Vipul wrote:Their "energy expert" Arshad Abassi was :(( that how come China is building power plants which will cost 9.5 cents per unit in Pakistan when they are also setting up the same in Bangladesh at 5 cents per unit. He said chinese are building power plants based on critical/ultra critical technology in Bangladesh, whereas they are only building conventional thermal plants in Pakistan.

Even before the ink has dried up on the MoU papers, Pakis have started whining about getting a bad deal. What's that saying about beggars and choosers.

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Postby Melwyn » 23 Apr 2015 03:37

China Loves Pakistan … but Most Chinese Don’t

But quantitative measures of grassroots sentiment between the two countries tell a different story. While Pakistanis view China in an overwhelmingly positive light — a July 2014 Pew Research Center survey found that 78 percent of respondents view China favorably — Chinese maintain a far less enthusiastic attitude toward their South Asian neighbor; only 30 percent of Chinese view Pakistan favorably.Chinese maintain a far less enthusiastic attitude toward their South Asian neighbor; only 30 percent of Chinese view Pakistan favorably. It’s not clear why Chinese popular opinion of Pakistan is so out of kilter with the two countries’ official relationship. Though most Chinese do acknowledge the close ties between the countries, some view Pakistan as violent, chaotic, and poorly governed. Pakistan shares a 372-mile border with Xinjiang, the northwestern Chinese region home to 10 million Uighurs, a largely Muslim Turkic-speaking minority, a region with sporadic outbreaks of violence between Uighurs and the majority Han population. In August 2011, officials in the region of Kashgar in southern Xinjiang claimed that Uighur militants had received training in Pakistan, and Chinese officials have pressured Pakistan to expel Uighur separatists who may be operating there.

To some in China, when imagining a violent, lawless, or run-down place, Pakistan is what first comes to mind. One young woman, upon returning to her college dorm room in the northern Chinese city of Dalian on an early spring day in 2013, discovered to her shock that the ceiling had caved in. “I thought I had been transported to Pakistan!” she posted on Weibo, a major social platform, along with a picture of the collapsed ceiling. When speculation abounded in April 2014 as to the fate of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370, some were quick to link the plane’s disappearance to Pakistan. “I think it must be related to Islamic extremism,” one Weibo user wrote in a representative comment, adding “The airplane might already be in a place like Pakistan, Afghanistan, or Yemen.” And in China, the general impression of Pakistanis themselves is often little better. A 2013 discussion thread on question-and-answer site Zhihu asked, “What kind of country is Pakistan? Are there a lot of terrorist organizations?” As one user wrote, “The poor people [there] are hooligans; they utter lewd expressions at women on the street.”

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Postby svinayak » 23 Apr 2015 04:28

One Chinese women met my friend in the early 2000 told him that she visited Isloo. It was very clean and orderly.
She visited India too and it was dusty and disorder

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Postby Prem » 23 Apr 2015 04:37

‏@fispahani
#Rand Corp study finding that only 6 % of Chinese aid pledged to #Pakistan from 2001 to 2011 was delivered http://bit.ly/1G80EgE

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Postby disha » 23 Apr 2015 04:54

svinayak wrote:One Chinese women met my friend in the early 2000 told him that she visited Isloo. It was very clean and orderly.
She visited India too and it was dusty and disorder


My Chinese boss told me the same thing., I asked her - did she go to New Delhi- Lutyens? No? Anyway asked her to go to LaWh0re next time and if possible step out into areas to get say pork ribs and see if she can come back alive. Unlike in Bangalore. Shut her up for good. Lost some bonus.

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Postby jash_p » 23 Apr 2015 06:12

Vipul wrote:
Their "energy expert" Arshad Abassi was :(( that how come China is building power plants which will cost 9.5 cents per unit in Pakistan when they are also setting up the same in Bangladesh at 5 cents per unit. He said chinese are building power plants based on critical/ultra critical technology in Bangladesh, whereas they are only building conventional thermal plants in Pakistan.



Its simple because 4.5 cents per unit needed to keep jehadis under control.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

Postby Altair » 23 Apr 2015 10:23


Propagandu media by Pakis..on Invincible Pigeon
Surely a lot of yellowed shalwars..
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

Postby g.sarkar » 23 Apr 2015 10:31

Vipul wrote:Their "energy expert" Arshad Abassi was :(( that how come China is building power plants which will cost 9.5 cents per unit in Pakistan when they are also setting up the same in Bangladesh at 5 cents per unit. He said chinese are building power plants based on critical/ultra critical technology in Bangladesh, whereas they are only building conventional thermal plants in Pakistan.

The Bangladashi kernails and jernails are paid less than the Pakis.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

Postby arun » 23 Apr 2015 10:48

Reality rapidly intrudes and spoils the raptures of ecstasy that was rippling through the Islamic Republic of Pakistan following the visit of Deeper than Indian Ocean, Higher than Himalaya’s, Sweeter than Honey, Iron Brother Xi Jinpeng :lol: .

Express Tribune discloses that the much ballyhooed USD 28 Billion contracts signed under China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) is subject to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan putting up PKR125 billion to PKR 150 billion during the fiscal year 2016, which starts on July 1, to execute work on projects under CPEC.

Express Tribune then goes on to say that “For fiscal 2016, the Finance Ministry has allocated Rs580 billion for the development budget, which the Planning Ministry says is insufficient, given the requirements of CPEC projects” .

Express Tribune yet further goes on to then explain that “the government is stuck between a rock and a hard place. On one hand, it has promised China that it will fund its part of several projects for CPEC. On the other hand, it has also promised the International Monetary Fund that it will keep the budget deficit limited to 4% of the total size of the economy for fiscal 2016.”:

Fiscal management: Govt scrambles to find development funds

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

Postby pankajs » 23 Apr 2015 11:02

Bakis want everything done for them by others and free in return for empty rhetoric.

They wanted the Iranians to built their part of the pipeline and later the Baki part and supply free gas too. They are right now begging the Iranians not to invoke the penalty clause. But ofcourse not everyone is unkill. The same game is being played with the Cheenis but the cheenis are more bania than the Indian bania.

May be, from the Baki POV the deal is to induce unkill to send more money across.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

Postby SanjayC » 23 Apr 2015 11:28

Read on Twitter:

Start the rumour...
"If we could convince the Chinese that
Jihadists’ testicles are an aphrodisiac,
in 10 years they could be extinct ...."

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

Postby arun » 23 Apr 2015 12:22

X Posted from the “Water Issues in the Indian Subcontinent” thread.

Bloomberg citing “senior Chinese water resources official” reports that P.R. China is reluctant to finance the Diamer Bhasha dam which the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is seeking to put up on occupied Indian territory of Gilgit-Baltistan:

China is unlikely to fund Diamer Bhasha because it doesn’t want to get involved in a water dispute between India and Pakistan, said a senior Chinese water resources official, who declined to be identified because the information isn’t public.


Read it all at the below web link:

Even China Won’t Finance This Dam as Water Fight Looms


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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

Postby rsingh » 23 Apr 2015 15:38

Vipul wrote:Their "energy expert" Arshad Abassi was :(( that how come China is building power plants which will cost 9.5 cents per unit in Pakistan when they are also setting up the same in Bangladesh at 5 cents per unit. He said chinese are building power plants based on critical/ultra critical technology in Bangladesh, whereas they are only building conventional thermal plants in Pakistan.


Bakis's have to pay premium for security. Chinese have calculated costs of various kaboooooms that are bound to happen.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

Postby Gagan » 23 Apr 2015 15:43

Err, but the Chinese are building the Neelum Jhelum Project for the Pakistanis in POK no?

Extensive work is underway as seen on sat pictures.

Diamer Bhasha dam is going to end up like Kalabagh


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