Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22 2015

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 27 Jun 2015 03:06

Feeling the heat, Taliban threatens K-Electric against power outages

ISLAMABAD: While the federal and provincial government shift blame over the heatwave deaths in Karachi, another condemnation has come from an unlikely source – the outlawed Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP).

In the wake of the heatwave and incessant load-shedding in Karachi, the banned outfit which routinely claims responsibility for deadly attacks in the country has decided to share the angst of Karachiites’ by blaming electricity supplier K-Electric for the crisis.

“The TTP holds the greedy K-Electric responsible for the ruthless power load-shedding,” the group’s spokesperson, Muhammad Khorasani said Friday.

The spokesperson went on to ‘warn’ K-Electric to end load-shedding or else face ‘action’ in the interests of the ‘oppressed’ people of Pakistan. In the interest of the "oppressed" people of Pakistan the Taliban will blow up a number of Generating Stations and all the Transformers in the Cities!

Khorasani also expressed “solidarity” with the people of the provincial capital.

“We express solidarity with the people of Karachi over the human tragedy,” he said.

And while the terrorist organisation is trying to win over the people of Karachi with this move, we can safely assume Karachiites’ won’t change their opinions of the group till they renounce their policy of violent and extremism.

Cheers

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 27 Jun 2015 04:20

i had not realized that owen bennet-jones has been at this for a while.
this from 2013: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/j ... tan-london

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 27 Jun 2015 04:33

KLNMurthy wrote:
Gus wrote:Cfair is not an expert on india. Her India utterings should be ignored.
She is playing a cynical self promotion game. She sucked the pakis dry and now wants to start on India.

+1

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 27 Jun 2015 04:37

First they hate her for not only being a stupid but a to be a ***** about it.
Then she says something soothing to them.
They think she is smart. Now they made a "personal assessment" of her.
Then she puts a ungli in their bottoms.
Now they can't accept their assessment is wrong. So they say she mus t be chanikiyan.
Since they aren't chanikiyan, they prefer to keep her away.

All along she is nothing but a selfish ignorant racist *****!

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 27 Jun 2015 04:40

Gus wrote:Cfair is not an expert on india. Her India utterings should be ignored.

Is she an egzpert on Pakistan or anything else for that matter? When did she became an egzbert on Pakistan, before repeating what every two-bit Hindu knows about Pakiatan or before that?

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 27 Jun 2015 04:44

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Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 27 Jun 2015 05:02

A_Gupta wrote:i had not realized that owen bennet-jones has been at this for a while.
this from 2013: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/j ... tan-london

He used to be the BBC correspondent in Isloo back in the middle to late 90s.

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 27 Jun 2015 05:11

g.sarkar wrote:Her love for India is just temporary. We should not hope to get much out of her.
Gautam

She has love for India? That's news to me. The only love she has is for the sound of her own voice and probably Ms. Oppenheimer.

I do not think we ever hoped to get anything out of her. A women scorned, she has been pouring vitriol at the Pakis and letting off a lot off a steam and somehow that message seems to be getting to many who would scoff at or turn a blind eye to Indian claims. At least, it makes it difficult for them to brush it off as the ramblings of a saffron bigot.

That in a nutshell is her utility. She probably expected that once she went full Paki on the Pakis, India would welcome her with open arms and we would fall over each other trying to felicitate, wine and dine her and allow here unrestricted access to the upper echelons of power, where her expertise would be fawned upon. That has not happened and hence the noise over Safrron terror.

She needs to be kept at more than an arms length and that's exactly what GoI have done and she (and her droves of admirers) do not like it one bit.

If I were to venture into the Conspiracy theory territory, I would hazard a guess that her outbursts were anything but. Perhaps the "divorce" was carefully cultivated to enable her to raise her stature in India and perhaps gain access to the inner workings of some of the decision makers.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 27 Jun 2015 05:16

RamaY wrote:
Gus wrote:Cfair is not an expert on india. Her India utterings should be ignored.
Is she an egzpert on Pakistan or anything else for that matter? When did she became an egzbert on Pakistan, before repeating what every two-bit Hindu knows about Pakiatan or before that?

+1

The tamasha of gobbling mounds of kababs from the white-gloved hands of TFTA packee jarnails, while sen~or Paco is doing doggie-style muta-marriage with Shrimati Oppenheimer, all the while spouting choice Urdu gaalis, may be entertaining but its real value as Useful Idiot for the Indian cause is more notional than real.

True, she has berated the US SD time and again for its stupidity over pakistan, but she has achieved just about zero--her country's policy remains unchanged, there is no indication that she even gets any bhaav stateside; has her academic career even taken off? Does she get any expert or advisory committee assignments? Any deputation as specialist Undersecretary for soothasia? What is her influence? What is her stature?

I think her value for us SDREs lies mostly in the fact that she is that rare creature, a westerner with the capacity to note and utter the obvious truth about pakistan. It an absurdly, and more to the point, uselessly low bar.

For those who want to fall all over themselves to prepare kababs on Fair's demand, because we may be able to buy some unspecified propagandu points (and somehow it is naive and veggie-buddhu to question her value) here's something to consider: there's more to real propagandu than just throwing random kababs at it. It has to be part of a carefully thought-out brahmin-bania saajish. When we want to do that, and put our minds to it, we can do it rather well, and make packees tear their chemise in impotent rage. We fed Strobe Talbott many morsels of Rajasthani pedas if not kababs to pave the way for the nuke deal, and we ruthlessly defamed pakarmy momins over Kargil. So, we are not exactly sitting around with our fingers in the old pureesha-dwaaram waiting for Fair's advice, are we?

Anyway, if we get into a serious propagandu war, are we better off or worse off with Fair in our batting lineup, kababs, urdu gaalis, doggy business, general loosy-goosiness and all?

partha · Post by **partha** » 27 Jun 2015 05:17

This after Burma operation

She is clearly playing to the gallery.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 27 Jun 2015 05:22

She is playing to the BRF STFUP dhaga gallery to be precise.

sivab · Post by **sivab** » 27 Jun 2015 05:42

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CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 27 Jun 2015 07:26

Guys, IMO you are wasting way too much time hyperventilating over Fair didi and her motivations

. She is a nobody, but FWIW, she is sticking it to TSP, no harm in that. And lets leave it at that.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 27 Jun 2015 08:51

Really?
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/tech/india- ... 12389.html
"India, Pakistan will collaborate on developing SAARC satellite under ISRO's guidance, says AS Kiran Kumar"

Vivek Kumar · Post by **Vivek Kumar** » 27 Jun 2015 09:27

What a meteoric rise...from "Ghazwa-e-Hind" to a possible "Ghazwa-e-Be Hind"

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2v9257

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 27 Jun 2015 10:00

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Rajagopal · Post by **Rajagopal** » 27 Jun 2015 14:45

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Rajagopal · Post by **Rajagopal** » 27 Jun 2015 14:45

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Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 27 Jun 2015 16:11

A_Gupta wrote:Really?
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/tech/india- ... 12389.html
"India, Pakistan will collaborate on developing SAARC satellite under ISRO's guidance, says AS Kiran Kumar"

BRF Gurus :

Is this Modi Ji's or Doval Ji's or Kiran Kumar's idea of giving Foaming at the Mouth Cwapistani Isdlamic Jehadi Terrorist Mullahs access to India's Satellite System?

Cheers

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 27 Jun 2015 16:18

Its DDM presstitute report, plijj to take with two ocean sized container of salt.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 27 Jun 2015 16:33

If we discount the Pakistan angle here, It is a clever move to give several countries access to an Indian built and launched satellite.
In the future they can either rent transponders or ask ISRO to launch one for them.

I was wondering if we could do the same with some NPCIL 700 MW nuclear reactors in the SAARC countries if they /GOI are upto it.
Nations like bangladesh, sri lanka, mayanmar, afghanistan will surely want geostationary sats of their own.
Bangladesh wanted the cheenis to build an N power plant too

Why should it not be Indian stuff hain ji?

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 27 Jun 2015 16:36

A_Gupta wrote:Really?
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/tech/india- ... 12389.html
"India, Pakistan will collaborate on developing SAARC satellite under ISRO's guidance, says AS Kiran Kumar"

Do Pakis even know how to spell "Satellite", let alone build one?

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 27 Jun 2015 16:43

The pakis sent a 9 member delegation?
SUPARCO won't have 9 scientists intotal, maybe if you count all the djinn physicists who are working on djinn warp power or some suitably hi-tech stuff.
I am 400% sure that some ISI wala must have tried to do recce. I'm sure they'll ask for a tour of the ISRO satellite center or other ISRO labs in the area

These guys are untrustworthy, their fauj will latch onto any such opportunity to get some intel for a ghazi attack in the future. Their cheena biladhels will be more intestered in what all equipment the ISRO has, but these guys with their martial-pakjabi-jealousy-loser-islamoghazi mentality can think of only unfurlng a green flag.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 27 Jun 2015 16:44

A_Gupta wrote:Really?
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/tech/india- ... 12389.html
"India, Pakistan will collaborate on developing SAARC satellite under ISRO's guidance, says AS Kiran Kumar"

Kashi wrote:Do Pakis even know how to spell "Satellite", let alone build one?

Kashi Ji :

The Evil Indian Hindoos - Rice Eating Dark and Short, Worshiping in Dark Places and wearing Kurta & Dhoti - will Teach the Cwapistanis

Cheers

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 27 Jun 2015 17:22

Some points worth considering:

1) USA policy towards Pakistan is dictated by US interests in using Pakistan as a force-multiplier in its Central-Asia, West-Asia and Indian Subcontinent games, sometimes for contributing chaos, sometimes for contributing cannon-fodder soldiers, sometimes to show it as a mad dog on its leash, sometimes to contain other countries like India. It gives USA a few more levers to show itself as a global player. Pakistan provides USA a means for influencing Asian politics. Christine Fair, at least in her writings, shows ignorance of this aspect of USA-Pakistan relationship and focuses too much on current problems in the management of this relationship. She tries to show USA policy as well-meaning in the region but undermined by the duplicity of Pakistan.

Now duplicity of Pakistan may be there, but the case of US policy being well-meaning, is a bit far-fetched.

So USA would continue with having its controls over the destabilization mechanisms in Asia, regardless of what Christine Fair says.

2) India, I think, should stop trying to convince USA and Western governments in general to sanction Pakistan. It takes too much effort, we allow ourselves to become hostage to Western governments' joy in playing judge, and it does not have any real durable benefits.

3) GoI propaganda against Pakistan should be directed at the Indian people, at history and at world opinion in general. Here we should try to saturate the air waves and print media with our PoV. This is also to honor our martyrs. This should in the form of well-informed articles, documentary films, conferences, etc. However one should keep Pakistan out of daily media articles, to and fro on social media, talk-shows with Pakistanis, etc, because all that is feeding the attention seeking Paki trolls.

4) We should stop talking to Western Governments about Pakistan, unless it is about some UN sanctions against Pakistan, and even then our attitude should be more like take it or leave it. No crawling.

5) Our talks with Western Governments should be mostly about their sale of weapons to a terrorist nuclear-armed Pakistan and here we should adopt more of an attitude of retribution against companies and governments providing arms to Pakistan.

6) Any provocations by Pakistan need to be met with a very big Jhapparh! No need to consult other countries at all regarding our dealing with those terrorist pests.

7) On all other matters, Pakistan should simply be ignored and forgotten. No need for talks, cricket, bollywood, visas, or anything else of the kind.

Just my two annas!

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 27 Jun 2015 17:31

Peregrine wrote: The Evil Indian Hindoos - Rice Eating Dark and Short, Worshiping in Dark Places and wearing Kurta & Dhoti - will Teach the Cwapistanis

Cheers

Teaching is fine as long as it's a lesson they never forget

On a more serious note, I vaguely recall an article by Bharat Karnad I think where he advocated sharing Space tech with Pakistan..

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 27 Jun 2015 17:32

Documents purporting to be British police records of interview with MQM:
http://www.dawn.com/news/1190725/india- ... -statement

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 27 Jun 2015 18:29

Where this collaboration in building satellite came from? I recall NM asked Isro to "gift" a satellite to SAARC countries. So my assumption is ISRO will build a comm satellite on its own and will license seven countries to use as per the agreement.

Is this a DDM made headline?

habal · Post by **habal** » 27 Jun 2015 18:32

what christine fair thing is really really annoyed about is that Pakistan had the temerity to 'play' the USA all the while. In fact I congratulate Pakistan as being the only muslim country and one of the very few countries who have successfully 'played' the USA in place of being played by the USA.

Well played Pakistan, in fact this is the only good thing you have done in your existance.

If you ask a c fair type about the doings of USA, she will innocently quip that 'It is what empires do'. these people have hardly any guilt about what their own countries are doing to the world, and have done to millions in Eyeraq, Syria, Libia and Ukraine. They have no conscience in all of those cases, they may well know what is going on there but their careers and their nations wealth gained from loot of these places is more important. THe power that their nation gains from controlling such territories is more important. The power to remain a world currency and global reserve and the power to retain unnatural debts to fund their out-of-proportion lifestyles and idea cities are more important. So she forget sufferings of a few black, brown and slav citizens on opposite side of globe.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 27 Jun 2015 18:40

Only 5 were invited but 9 came from Pakistan? The extra 4 were non-state actors along with the 5 state-actors.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 27 Jun 2015 18:45

SSridhar wrote:Only 5 were invited but 9 came from Pakistan? The extra 4 were non-state actors along with the 5 state-actors.

how those extra 4 got the visa when invite was only for 5? is this the doing of Department of Space extending more invites? Somebody in GoI must be answerable for this.

Rishi · Post by **Rishi** » 27 Jun 2015 19:01

A_Gupta wrote:Documents purporting to be British police records of interview with MQM:
http://www.dawn.com/news/1190725/india- ... -statement

.

That's pretty standard humint stuff one would expect should be going on...

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 27 Jun 2015 19:03

SAARC Satellite Likely to be Launched Next Year, Pakistan Agrees to Participate

All member countries have given their nod. And although a nine-member Pakistani delegation did ask many questions, they agreed to collaborate.

WFT this means? Did those mach@ds come to interrogate ISRO? (pardon my french). And what? are they doing favor on us by "agreeing to collaborate"?

"Given its vast experience and extensive expertise in peaceful uses of space with elaborate infrastructure , Pakistan has made many constructive proposals for intra-SAARC collaboration in this area," said Mr Manzoor Memon, spokesperson for the Pakistan High Commission. "We hope our proposals will be given due consideration for effective and mutually beneficial space cooperation.''

These guys are trying fking = = here? bhen@ds

(pardon my french)

According to ISRO Chairman Dr Kiran Kumar, the making of the satellite is being fast-tracked and it will be launched using the Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle from Sriharikota.

I assume this means we and only we are making the satellite.

A request to BRF members. Please do not post any related news in space dhaga. Name "pakistan" itself is a pannovti (bad luck).

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 27 Jun 2015 19:09

Pakistan raises security issues to oppose SAARC satellite project

Pakistan tried to throw a spanner in the works of the proposed SAARC satellite project conceived by Prime Minister Narendra Modi by raising several queries at the meeting last Monday in Delhi on the objectives of the satellite which it said could infringe on its security, officials said.

Go to hell then?

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 27 Jun 2015 19:13

The good thing is that this is all just one "SAARC satellite" that is going to be up there regardless of what the Pakis want. So even if it infringes on paki security, WTF are the pakis going to do about it other than complain?

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 27 Jun 2015 19:35

It will be then SAARC-P satellite.

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 27 Jun 2015 19:37

Tuvaluan wrote:The good thing is that this is all just one "SAARC satellite" that is going to be up there regardless of what the Pakis want. So even if it infringes on paki security, WTF are the pakis going to do about it other than complain?

They will launch a red tipped Ghauri that seeks their four fathers in the Arapian sea area.

member_29112 · Post by **member_29112** » 27 Jun 2015 20:15

Pakistan raises security issues to oppose SAARC satellite project
Pakistan tried to throw a spanner in the works of the proposed SAARC satellite project conceived by Prime Minister Narendra Modi by raising several queries at the meeting last Monday in Delhi on the objectives of the satellite which it said could infringe on its security, officials said.

Alrighty then. Lets leave those Pakis out

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 27 Jun 2015 20:16

I assume this means we and only we are making the satellite.

For the record - One month after sworn in as PM (June 2014) Modi asked ISRO to develop a SAARC satellite, which can be dedicated as a ‘gift’ to the neighbors. . NaMo talked about (among loud cheers) this in his visit to Nepal in August 2014 (which Nepal welcomed). Also in his address to the Sri Lankan Parliament in March 2015 NaMo's statement was cheered when he said "Sri Lanka will take full benefit of India's satellite for the SAARC Region. All cost is to be borne by India.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 27 Jun 2015 20:33

Why does ISRO or NaMO want Pakis to 'parkicipate' in an Indian satellite program? They are going to release all the design and interfacing data for Indian satellites to the pakis? This is worse than inviting the Chinese to participate in the LCA program. OF Course it should 'infringe on paki insecurity' by giving photos of the L-E-T camps in Pakistan to all neighbors b4 and after the coming raids.