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Postby member_22733 » 07 Nov 2015 02:49

ManjaM wrote:http://www.deccanherald.com/content/510466/outrage-us-second-mistrial-cop.html


The black community knows this, but I guess Indian folks have not realized this fact yet:

If there is a case of injustice against a colored person (which we Indians are), and if the perpetrator is part of the white power structure: Expect no justice and also expect every path towards any kind of redemption closed off with a huge wall of legalese nonsense.

This was at the root of the Ferguson protests.

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Postby JwalaMukhi » 07 Nov 2015 04:47

That's because too many desis drank kool-aid of justice being delivered on demand and is color blind. It was flabbergasting even in the case of Dharun Ravi, when he was offered a chance (second time - although it possibly could have had impact on him extending his permanent residency/citizenship. But there was a guarantee of no jail time) to do community service instead of getting on with the case, his case was pursued hoping justice will carry through. What is more interesting is, the Chinese student who was with Ravi, was given similar community service, she jumped on it at first instance. It is slow learning process for most desis.

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Postby Cosmo_R » 07 Nov 2015 05:47

^^^ Dharun Ravi. He and his parents/advisers made a lot of choices. He did do wrong and subsequent actions have only made it worse.

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Postby JwalaMukhi » 07 Nov 2015 06:45

Yes, while the chinese student had enough EQ and IQ to wade through morass of justice system and made an optimal choice, Ravi's team displayed quite naivety hoping the system would yield better results. It is a question of the thinking that went into the choices.

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Postby Hari Seldon » 07 Nov 2015 07:50

Admittedly moi too once believed the US justiss system was (Christine) Fair and all only. Slick marketing helped. Dark realities intervened.Now, am under no illusions about khan's wonderful system only...

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Postby ramana » 07 Nov 2015 08:47

So Cheney is Dr. Strangelove.

Must have a little one.

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Postby hnair » 07 Nov 2015 11:24

Al Quolin was supposed to have mooted the idea of a "low yeild burst high above Eyraq" on the lead up to GW1. His fantastic logic: to show Saddam about the seriousness of situation, via EMP.

This reaching for nukes against everyone who looked at them weirdly, is a hallmark of these relics of coldwar. Senior Bush is the one who picked his old team for his son, wasnt he? So why is he cribbing now?

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Postby habal » 07 Nov 2015 11:29

Jeb Bush is complaining to daddy that Donald Trump makes fun of him over the Iraq wars.

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Postby A_Gupta » 08 Nov 2015 20:34

For those of you who have access to the New York Times, this a request to upvote some comments.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/08/opini ... tmare.html
there is an editorial: "The Pakistan Nuclear Nightmare"

Stuff I find objectionable: bracketing with India:

Persuading Pakistan to rein in its nuclear weapons program should be an international priority. The major world powers spent two years negotiating an agreement to restrain the nuclear ambitions of Iran, which doesn’t have a single nuclear weapon. Yet there has been no comparable investment of effort in Pakistan, which, along with India, has so far refused to consider any limits at all.


Pakistani blackmail of the world
The recent meeting at the White House on Oct. 22 between President Obama and Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif of Pakistan appears to have gone nowhere. Yet it would be wrong not to keep trying, especially at a time of heightened tensions between Pakistan and India over Kashmir and terrorism.


It is India's fault
Meanwhile, Narendra Modi, India’s prime minister, has done nothing to engage Islamabad on security issues, and he also bears responsibility for current tensions.


The top two "Reader Picks" comments are nasty. There are more deserving comments, e.g., Ajs3 from London
I dont agree with a lot that Modi is doing India, but I would not fault him for "not engaging with Pakistan on security issues". The fact is that Pakistan's dispute with India, whether on Kashmir or otherwise, is not about its security. Pakistan's dispute with India, in line with its raison d'être, is ideological, now heavily imbued with Islamic overtones. No matter how ridiculous it sounds, Pakistan views itself as India's equal and therefore seeks parity in all respects, culturally, militarily and economically. This is why it insists that any visit to India by a US president must be "balanced" by a visit to Pakistan. Of course, the reality is very different and so, as it finds itself trailing India in almost all respects, it seeks parity by seeking to retard India's growth and development by making itself a constant nuisance and threat through terrorist activity and by stoking an arms race with India that. The real problem is that the US continues to view Pakistan's actions in terms of security and keeps trying to address that through economic and military aid and pressure on India to engage and address Pakistan's "security concerns". It is this futile diplomacy to which Modi has now put a stop and this is what the West needs to do as well, i.e. stop rewarding Pakistan's bad behaviour and nuclear blackmail, otherwise things will only get worse for all of us.


My own two-liner is:
The US props up Pakistan, like China props up North Korea. The difference is that China does not expect the world to yield to NoKo's demands.

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Postby Vayutuvan » 09 Nov 2015 02:58

Done. Replies to Mark Thomason need to overtake his post as the one with the most Reader's recomends. He seems not to understand the history of how Pakistan came into the possession of nukes. He also does a lot of ==. He was supportive of Palestenia too. Might be having some khujli vis-a-vis Israel/Palestene.

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Postby krishna_krishna » 09 Nov 2015 08:15

Guys found something interesting so called gang of ex-diplomants run so called advisory company to help in foreign countries they have gang of NYU professors/NYT team on their team especially media management is one of their core competencies :

http://www.albrightstonebridge.com/about-us

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Postby krishna_krishna » 09 Nov 2015 08:24

See how case study for company in india how they helped them in communications (media management ):

http://www.albrightstonebridge.com/case ... management

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Postby A_Gupta » 09 Nov 2015 16:52

krishna_krishna wrote:See how case study for company in india how they helped them in communications (media management ):

http://www.albrightstonebridge.com/case ... management


To this end we mapped the relevant officials and organizations and developed an engagement and messaging platform that clearly conveyed our client’s interests and the seriousness with which the company was addressing the issue.


Is that shorthand for "we figured out whom to bribe or blackmail"?

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Postby Vayutuvan » 09 Nov 2015 21:26

Lots of powerful people there in that company.

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Postby krishna_krishna » 10 Nov 2015 03:47

Also one of the indian person owns so called university is http://www.9dot9.in/communication.html see who owns this and kind of services they provide which includes bringing so called distinguished speakers like RBI and yashwanth sinha to your events. No wonder why since has been anti BJP recently and so called tolerance speeches from Rajan

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Postby Prem » 11 Nov 2015 10:39

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... -president
Neel Kashkari Named Next Minneapolis Fed President
Neel Kashkari, a former financier who managed the U.S. Treasury’s $700 billion rescue of banks in the 2008 crisis, was named the next president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis.
Kashkari’s resume includes stops at Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Pacific Investment Management Co., and a failed run for governor of California last year. At the Treasury, he was Secretary Henry Paulson’s key aide in overseeing the Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP. Kashkari will take over from Narayana Kocherlakota on January 1, 2016, according to a statement Tuesday from the Minneapolis Fed.“He has a little bit of all the pieces you’d want in a Fed president,” said Stephen Stanley, chief economist at Amherst Pierpont Securities LLC in Stamford, Connecticut.As head of one of 12 regional Fed banks, Kashkari will join the Federal Open Market Committee, the central bank’s policy making panel. The Fed is weighing ending a seven-year era of near-zero interest rates, with investors betting it will move next month. Kashkari is not scheduled to vote on policy decisions until 2017. Kocherlakota, as is customary for outgoing FOMC members, will not attend the December meeting.Kocherlakota is one of the Fed’s most dovish policy makers who has argued it should keep rates on hold into next year. Kashkari has offered observations on monetary policy via his twitter feed, without spelling out whether he would favor raising rates or delaying liftoff in the current climate. In an April 2013 comment he likened the Bank of Japan’s asset purchase program to “morphine. makes u feel better but doesn’t cure.”“I don’t think we know that much” about Kashkari’s views on monetary policy, said Angel Ubide, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics in Washington. “My experience with people who get appointed is whatever they thought before and what they do later doesn’t necessarily correlate.”Kashkari, 42, earned bachelor’s and master’s degrees in mechanical engineering at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, and an MBA from the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School. He began his career as an aerospace engineer at TRW Inc. in Redondo Beach, California.

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viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6863&start=1680#p1934498

China spurs Narendra Modi’s pivot to Washington

The world’s largest democracy needs the investment of the most advanced one

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Postby Viv S » 15 Nov 2015 22:08

I'll just post the entire article if you don't mind. May not be accessible to everybody.

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China spurs Narendra Modi’s pivot to Washington

Philip Stephens

The world’s largest democracy needs the investment of the most advanced one

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Barack Obama’s pivot to Asia has had a bad press. The moment the US president uttered the phrase, the Middle East demanded closer attention. The scepticism should ease with this week’s deal on a trans-Pacific trade and investment pact. There are hurdles still to jump, but the accord among a dozen Pacific Rim nations speaks to the power of geoeconomics.
There is also the view through the other end of the telescope. Washington is not the only party to the strategic realignment under way in Asia in response to China’s rise. Maybe we should be talking about Asia’s pivot to Washington.

I was reminded of this during a week-long study group in India organised by the European Council on Foreign Relations and Germany’s Robert Bosch Foundation. The purpose of a crammed agenda of meetings with politicians, policymakers and scholars was to find out “What India Thinks”. For a bunch of Europeans, one answer was decidedly depressing. Indians may buy German engineering and French jets but, in the game of great power politics, Europe is a bit-part player. The serious rumination is reserved for China and the US: the first viewed as a threat, the second, sotto voce, as an indispensable ally. The two things, of course, are connected.

Narendra Modi has been nothing if not energetic on the international stage. The Indian prime minister has visited 20-odd foreign capitals since taking office in May 2014. Old relationships have been refurbished and new ones forged. Mr Modi does not lack ambition. It has become a commonplace to call the 21st the Pacific century. He wants to change that. We should be talking of the Indo-Pacific century.

The official account sets India’s foreign policy on two pillars. The first is an inescapable link between economic development and geopolitical weight. Policymakers boast that India is now growing faster than a slowing China. And while China is getting older, India’s demography promises the energy of youth. Fair enough, but the Indian economy is only a fraction of the size of the Chinese economy. Catching up demands decent infrastructure, foreign investment and cutting-edge technologies. And lots of it.

So each of Mr Modi’s forays overseas has an economic dimension. When Chinese president Xi Jinping tipped up at the White House the other day, Mr Modi was in California selling the Indian dream to the behemoths of Silicon Valley. The Indian prime minister and his Japanese counterpart Shinzo Abe share a strongman view of leadership, but what adds depth to the relationship is an understanding that Japan and India can do business together.

The second pillar is the neighbourhood. Past leaders have been peremptory in their treatment of smaller neighbours. What energy there has been has been sucked up by the cycle of conflicts with Pakistan. Nepal, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Bhutan and the rest have been seen as beneath Delhi’s interest. Mr Modi has changed things. The simmering stand-off over Kashmir with Pakistan will always be a source of tension but, albeit yielding varying degrees of success, he understands that great powers do well to dampen disturbances in their own neighbourhood.

More muted in the official foreign policy narrative is the concern about China’s regional ambitions. Beijing has been assiduous in courting India’s neighbours. Mr Xi’s One Belt, One Road strategy is calculated to make China the pre-eminent Eurasian power. For Delhi, the reopening of the silk routes to Europe and the Chinese push into the Indian Ocean feel like encirclement; and that by a power with which India once went to war over still-disputed borders and one that remains Pakistan’s patron.

Mr Modi has to balance such concerns with economic engagement. China is an untapped source of investment and infrastructure know-how. Yet Beijing’s ambitions also provide the context for the deepening of Delhi’s ties with Japan and Australia and the building of new relationships with Vietnam, the Philippines and Indonesia. The thread through these networks is the quest for a counterweight to an assertive Beijing.

Mr Modi’s pivot to Washington is part of the same picture. India will always be ambivalent about the US. Part of it still hankers for the “strategic autonomy” that came with leadership of the nonaligned movement during the cold war. Visceral pride says India can never be a junior partner in a US-led alliance system. The historically close relationship with Russia also matters; the habit of close collaboration with Moscow has outlasted the collapse of communism.

Yet the world’s largest democracy needs the investment and defence equipment that only the world’s most advanced democracy can offer. And the US is the essential guarantor of the effort to check Chinese power. European integration after the second world war was made possible by an overarching US security guarantee. Something similar is true of the alliance systems emerging in Asia: their credibility rests on the connection to the US.

India’s first prime minister Jawaharlal Nehru once remarked that foreign policy is the outcome of economic policy. He was right. Mr Modi’s dream of an Indo-Pacific century depends on economic modernisation. Yet the change in outlook is palpable. After decades as a big nation with a small worldview, Mr Modi’s India is shaping up as a nation set on remaking Asia’s balance of power.

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https://www.rt.com/op-edge/322307-us-ob ... g20-putin/
Who’s in Control? Obama or the generals?
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Published time: 16 Nov, 2015 14:39

US President Barack Obama’s business-like meeting with Russian leader Vladimir Putin on the sidelines of the G20 summit at the weekend belies a spate of bellicose comments made by the Pentagon towards Moscow. So, who is in control: Obama or the generals?

The two leaders held an earnest 35-minute face-to-face discussion on the opening day of the G20 conference in Antalya, Turkey. The gathering of the world’s top 20 economic nations was dominated by the massive terror attack in Paris two days earlier, which claimed at least 129 lives and hundreds more wounded.

Obama’s meeting with Putin – their first since Russia launched its military intervention in Syria nearly seven weeks ago – was described by the White House as “constructive”.

The American president even appeared to welcome Russian airstrikes against terror groups fighting the Syrian government, most prominently Islamic State (IS) jihadists, also known as ISIL.

“As the diplomacy continues, President Obama welcomed efforts by all nations to confront the terrorist group ISIL and noted the importance of Russia’s military efforts in Syria focusing on the group,” said a White House spokesman.

That’s quite a contrast in substance and tone from a speech made by Defense Secretary Ashton Carter only a week before.

In a blustering tirade, Carter labeled Russia a “global threat” in a speech at the Reagan Library in California. He denounced Russia for “nuclear saber-rattling” and “aggression” in Europe and he slammed Putin’s military operation in Syria as “throwing gasoline” on a fire, which, he said, would lead to more terrorism across the Middle East.

Carter may have said, in passing, that the US did not want a “hot war” with Russia, but his overall thrust was one of unalloyed belligerence towards Moscow. The Pentagon chief also bracketed Russia with the terror group, Islamic State, as a main national security risk.

That depiction of Russia as a global threat along with jihadi terrorists is flatly contradicted by Obama and his Secretary of State John Kerry’s diplomatic engagement with Russia.

Kerry has praised his Russian counterpart, Sergey Lavrov, in helping to seal the P5+1 nuclear deal with Iran, for instance. And while attending the latest round of talks on the Syria conflict in Vienna this weekend, there was the usual bonhomie rapport between the top American and Russian diplomats. Indeed Kerry and Lavrov issued a joint statement condemning the terrorist massacre in Paris, and both emphasized that the atrocity underlined the urgency to find a negotiated resolution to the crisis in Syria.

This is by no means the first time that a schism has become apparent in Washington with regard to Russia.

Back in July, Obama and Kerry both issued embarrassing repudiations of the Pentagon’s hawkish line on Russia. That was after General Joseph F Dunford in his nomination to become the next Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff told Congress that Russia posed “an existential threat to the United States.”

“If you want to talk about a nation that could pose an existential threat to the United States, I’d have to point to Russia,” Dunford said. “And if you look at their behavior, it’s nothing short of alarming.”

Kerry’s spokesman at the State Department, Mark Toner, immediately scotched that belligerent view, saying: “The secretary [Kerry] doesn’t agree with the assessment that Russia is an existential threat to the United States, quite frankly.”

That repudiation was also echoed by the White House whose spokesman Josh Earnest said that General Dunford’s comments reflected “his own view and doesn’t necessarily reflect the consensus analysis of the president’s national security team.”

That’s not to say Obama and Kerry, and their respective teams, have become all dovish. Kerry has previously denounced Russia’s alleged aggression in Ukraine and President Putin of “trying to change borders down the barrel of a gun.” Obama has also referred to Russia as a global threat alongside jihadi terrorism while addressing the United Nations General Assembly.

Nevertheless, there appears to be an unmistakable divergence opening up in Washington, with, at the extreme, the Pentagon, CIA and hotheads in Congress like Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham, who want to “shoot down Russian fighter jets” in Syria.

The contradiction in US foreign policy is perhaps most acutely seen in Syria. Obama sends in special forces, after four years of saying no boots on the ground despite one failed training program after another; the White House is apparently pursuing diplomacy at Vienna, yet Washington is moving to step up anti-tank TOW rockets and surface-to-air missiles (SAMs) to unknown “select rebels”.

One way of better understanding the apparent contradictions and zigzags is that the Pentagon and CIA are running policies separately and covertly from the official stance of the White House and State Department.

John Kerry vows that he is trying to end the carnage in Syria through political talks in Vienna. But the signs are that the covert warmongers in the CIA are intent on fuelling more conflict in Syria, even if that means triggering an all-out confrontation with Russia.

The Wall Street Journal recently reported that the CIA, along with Saudi Arabia and Turkey, is preparing to supply surface-to-air missiles (SAMs) to militants in Syria “even though Obama has long rebuffed that idea.”

What we may be seeing in US policy is competing agendas. The diplomatic track appears to be favored by the White House and State Department as a more efficacious way of achieving regime change against the Syrian government of President Bashar al-Assad. But the Pentagon, and specifically the CIA, has its own militarist schemes, even if that means providing weapons to terror groups with much greater fire power and risking a proxy war with Russia.

The upshot is that US foreign policy is dangerously all over the place because of competing power players within Washington. The disturbing conclusion is that the American president and his State Department are simply not in control. It’s like watching a driver of an articulated truck whose grip on the wheel has no steering.

A deep, darker state within the official state is by no means a new concept to describe American government and its foreign policy. More than 50 years ago, President John F. Kennedy was so perplexed by CIA covert operations undermining him on Cuba and Vietnam that he declared he would “smash it into a thousand pieces.” That intention probably caused Kennedy his life at the hands of the deep state and its military-industrial complex.

Today, it is very doubtful that any American politician would have the courage or conviction to pull rank on the military-industrial complex. The latter appears to be more assertive and belligerent than ever, as can be seen from the seemingly irrational contradictions of US foreign policy on Russia and Syria. And that unaccountable power-play makes for a highly dangerous dynamic.

Washington often proclaims that it is “protecting the world”. The truth is that the world needs protecting from the US whose foreign policies are increasingly reckless and beyond any democratic control.

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Postby ramana » 18 Nov 2015 04:34

Philip, Paris attacks changed the dynamics.
ISIS is sorcerer's apprentice gone wild.

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Postby Kashi » 18 Nov 2015 04:53

ramana wrote:Philip, Paris attacks changed the dynamics.
ISIS is sorcerer's apprentice gone wild.


So people thought after 9/11, after London 2005, after Madrid, after Boston.....

It was Al-Qaeda then, ISIS today and who knows what else tomorrow..

The more the things change..the more they remain the same..

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Postby Prem » 18 Nov 2015 05:41

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Republican Hindu Coalition rolls out GOP heavy hitters for launch

A new Indian-American lobby on Tuesday convened a powerful group of Republicans — including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) — in a Washington hotel as it pledged to raise millions in campaign cash for GOP candidates this cycle.The Republican Hindu Coalition (RHC) held its public launch at the Hyatt Regency on Capitol Hill, gathering McConnell and Sens. Rob Portman (R-Ohio), Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) and Ron Johnson (R-Wis.). The RHC’s founder, Chicago-based businessman Shalabh “Shalli” Kumar, has promised to personally donate at least $2 million to Republicans running for office in 2016, and the coalition aims to give at least $10 million to GOP candidates this cycle. Ayotte, Portman and Johnson are all facing tough re-election battles in 2016.Influential House members, including Rules Committee Chairman Pete Sessions (R-Texas) and Rep. Ed Royce (R-Calif.), the chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, also attended.Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, the honorary chairman of the RHC, entered the ballroom with Kumar. "I think launching an organization like the RHC could literally change history," Gingrich told the audience.Gingrich said the U.S. and India face a common enemy in radical jihadists, adding he had grave concerns about the dangers of Pakistan. Kumar designed the RHC to mobilize Indian-Americans into an influential conservative force and to tighten business and strategic ties between India and the U.S.The technology entrepreneur got the idea for the RHC when he saw how successful and influential the Republican Jewish Coalition has been with lawmakers in Washington and across America. "Having watched the Republican Jewish Coalition work to achieve its goals ... I was inspired to found RHC," Kumar said.
Based on Tuesday's attendance list, the Indian-American businessman and the RHC will have no trouble getting their telephone calls answered on Capitol Hill.Kumar, who is close to India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi, has relationships in the Republican Party dating back to the Reagan administration.Kumar has been a generous donor to Republicans, sending $50,000 to Mitt Romney’s joint fundraising account in 2012 and more than $100,000 to the Republican Party and its candidates over the past five years."Shalli, thank you so much for what you're doing," McConnell told the businessman, saying how glad he was that India was moving away from socialism and toward free market principles.Turning to the audience, which included influential Indian-American businessmen, McConnell said of the GOP: “Believe me, it's your natural home and we welcome you."

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Postby member_29172 » 18 Nov 2015 05:55

Nice, finally a political voice for Hindus typically represented by sickulars. I hope this will address some burning issues of Hindu and Sikh communities if not American-Indians in general.

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Postby ramana » 18 Nov 2015 06:01

The old India caucus with Democrats was just taking money and doing nothing.

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Postby Prem » 18 Nov 2015 06:13

Alka_P wrote:Nice, finally a political voice for Hindus typically represented by sickulars. I hope this will address some burning issues of Hindu and Sikh communities if not American-Indians in general.


This platform will expand onlyyyyy and get tangible results for all parties. With estimated close to half a billion dollars in annual political contribution, Indian community really needed this. Republicans are preempting Democrats as in next 2 decade, demographics are going to be very favourable for Indians in USA and argumentative Indians will love to debate and debate the domestic and foreign issues till Jihad is dead. Republicans will get all fresh blood, brain, ideas and financial support.

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Postby kenop » 18 Nov 2015 07:00

Bobby Jindal does not wish to run for position of the POTUS: newsx a while ago

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Postby CRamS » 18 Nov 2015 08:59

kenop wrote:Bobby Jindal does not wish to run for position of the POTUS: newsx a while ago


Good riddance. In terms of the impact this has on India, Indians by and large are spared from the extravagant manufactured hype from DDM about an "Indian American" making it big in US that would have surely ensued had this Uncle Tom got even a semblance of a traction.

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Postby Yagnasri » 18 Nov 2015 09:08

I think he said that he do not consider himself as Indian American etc. Plus being a hardcore EJ I am sure he do not have any civilizational connect with other Indians in US.

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Postby Vayutuvan » 18 Nov 2015 09:09

That was long time coming. He was hovering at 4%.

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Postby Philip » 18 Nov 2015 20:28

Hillary will pillory India if she wins.The insidious influence of hubbie Bill behind the scenes and old bum-chumming with China and Pak will start all over again.We will be far better off with a GOP gent in the WH.The Q is which one?

The big unanswered Q is what will the Paris effect have upon the establishment attitude towards India? Visas are being made harder to come by and O'Bomber is no real friend. The mistake that the GOI is making is to imagine that FDI will rescue India's economy. India must depend upon itself ,its own resources and market of 1.2B people,and start with incremental but achievable improvements across the nation starting from the village. Trying to improve the infrastructure of say "drowning Chennai",thanks to cretinous planning,greedy politicos and developers and conniving babus,solving the metros woes will cost billions which we do not have.Improving infrastructure in smaller cities where the rot hasn't had too bad an effect is better.It will curtail migration to unworkable cities.Babudom's ranks must be ruthlessly cut by 25% which will reduce red tapism. Indian pvt. industry must be freed from its shackles and the asinine cess that is imposed by the Fin.Min. time and again on services,etc.,etc. only increases the tax burden on the poor taxpayer.

Revamping the major services like rail,public tansportation,etc. requires hundreds of billions. Part must be privatised,perhaps all the new metro rail systems in the cities,not national rail,which has a huge social and strategic importance. If the GOI can hold out juicy carrots for the NRI community in the rebuilding of India,we will reduce the amt. of money required from firang FDIs.

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Postby sooraj » 19 Nov 2015 23:32

Stephen Colbert taunts the fallen Bobby Jindal campaign

Hungry For Power Games: May The Branch Be Ever In Your Face :rotfl:


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Postby Prem » 21 Nov 2015 05:20

http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/11/2 ... ce=twitter
India blocks visits by U.S. officials despite warmer ties

Despite a much-heralded fresh start in U.S.-India ties under Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, a diplomatic source said on Friday the United States has run into problems arranging visits by two senior officials, recalling a diplomatic spat that soured relations two years ago.Washington has been seeking to send Susan Coppedge, its newly appointed anti-people trafficking ambassador, and Randy Berry, its special envoy for LGBT rights, to New Delhi this month.Human trafficking has caused friction between the United States and India. The countries also disagree on gay rights, which the Obama administration promotes, while homosexuality in India is illegal.The source, who did not want to identified, said the visits had run into problems.
“These visits were planned, they were meant to be here around this time. But there were some issues," the source said.The State Department declined formal comment but a department official said the two sides were "working to coordinate the best timing.”India's Foreign Ministry did not respond to request for comment and Indian Ambassador Arun K. Singh did not offer clarification when asked on Thursday about Coppedge's plan to visit, which was revealed at a Nov. 4 congressional hearing by Kari Johnstone, principal deputy director of the State Department's trafficking office."We'll see," Singh told reporters. "When you ask a U.S. official when somebody will be given a visa, they always say ‘we will assess when visa is applied for.’ ... I can do no better than to reiterate the U.S. position."

U.S. officials say Indian citizens who have been issued U.S. T visas have been subject to restrictions, including long delays in renewing passports at Indian consulates in the United States.

Between July 2014 and March 2015, the crackdown was harsher, with authorities at Indian airports confiscating at least 20 passports stamped with U.S. T visas confiscated. This prevented trafficking victims who went home to collect their families from returning to the United States.Berry is Washington's first gay-rights ambassador and a U.S. official said no trafficking czar had visited India for the past eight years.The India ambassador played down the impact of the trafficking issue on U.S.-India relations, saying these were "at a very good stage now." with two visits by Modi to the United States, and Obama becoming the first U.S. president to visit India twice while in office."These are all reflections of where the relationship is headed," he said.India was happy to work in an international framework to tackle the problem of trafficking, but rejected "unilateral assessments" of another country," he said."We will never accept it," he said.

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Postby Gus » 21 Nov 2015 07:02

Lots of good stuff there. Good that we are making it clear it is not a open house for anyone to come and crap on us.

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Postby Singha » 21 Nov 2015 07:24

+720 birader. all these LGBT, trafficking, religious persecution......none gave a permission to US to decide who is good or bad.

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Postby Prem » 21 Nov 2015 07:42

Gus wrote:Lots of good stuff there. Good that we are making it clear it is not a open house for anyone to come and crap on us.

Let them go to China, Saudia and Mentally Unstable Nanga Nanha Assclown Pakistan first before applying entry for Desh. Add the illegal missionaries to this human trafficking gangster list.

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Re: India-US Relations : News and Discussion- II

Postby JE Menon » 21 Nov 2015 07:50

Don't forget also the trafficking issue has been used as a cover for evanjihadi activity.

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Postby CRamS » 21 Nov 2015 08:22

Jhujar wrote:http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/11/20/usa-india-idinkcn0t92yf20151120?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=564fb53204d3013a22128ffc&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter
India blocks visits by U.S. officials despite warmer ties


The premise "warmer ties" is interesting. Under this bogey, they can come and crap on us.

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Re: India-US Relations : News and Discussion- II

Postby Rahul M » 21 Nov 2015 08:30

vayu tuvan wrote:That was long time coming. He was hovering at 4%.

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