Geopolitics/Geoeconomics Thread - June 2015

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Re: Geopolitics/Geoeconomics Thread - June 2015

Postby syam » 21 Mar 2020 15:21

Cain Marko wrote:As per the dissidents tweet it might have been because of other reasons such as economic hardship although it seems a strange coincidence that the sudden drop in users coincided so well with the covid19 outbreak. There is little doubt that the CCP will go to great lengths to cover up their sh*t. Probly makes the Chernobyl cover up look like child's play.

It is horrible. I didn't get sleep whole night after realizing how horrible the situation is. The virus outbreak outdid Mao in killing the people. Just imagine a scenario where the elite also not safe from something. It means the whole thing is infected.

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Re: Geopolitics/Geoeconomics Thread - June 2015

Postby ricky_v » 21 Mar 2020 15:39

Can anyone explain why a PRIVATE entity like the federal reserve loans money to a government? What does the govt put up as collateral?
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Re: Geopolitics/Geoeconomics Thread - June 2015

Postby Gerard » 21 Mar 2020 17:13

That is the US Central Bank

See Who owns the Federal Reserve?

The Federal Reserve was created in 1913 by the Federal Reserve Act to serve as the nation's central bank. The Board of Governors in Washington, D.C., is an agency of the federal government and reports to and is directly accountable to the Congress.

Some observers mistakenly consider the Federal Reserve to be a private entity because the Reserve Banks are organized similarly to private corporations. For instance, each of the 12 Reserve Banks operates within its own particular geographic area, or District, of the United States, and each is separately incorporated and has its own board of directors. Commercial banks that are members of the Federal Reserve System hold stock in their District's Reserve Bank. However, owning Reserve Bank stock is quite different from owning stock in a private company. The Reserve Banks are not operated for profit, and ownership of a certain amount of stock is, by law, a condition of membership in the System. In fact, the Reserve Banks are required by law to transfer net earnings to the U.S. Treasury, after providing for all necessary expenses of the Reserve Banks, legally required dividend payments, and maintaining a limited balance in a surplus fund.

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Re: Geopolitics/Geoeconomics Thread - June 2015

Postby ricky_v » 21 Mar 2020 17:25

According to the board of governors of the Federal Reserve, "It is not 'owned' by anyone and is 'not a private, profit-making institution'. Instead, it is an independent entity within the government, having both public purposes and private aspects."[7] The U.S. Government does not own shares in the Federal Reserve System or its component banks, but does receive all of the system's annual profits after a statutory dividend of 6% on their capital investment is paid to member banks and a capital account surplus is maintained. The government also exercises some control over the Federal Reserve by appointing and setting the salaries of the system's highest-level employees.

The division of the responsibilities of a central bank into several separate and independent parts, some private and some public, results in a structure that is considered unique among central banks. It is also unusual in that an entity outside of the central bank – the U.S. Department of the Treasury – creates the currency used.

https://web.archive.org/web/20100811174334/http://www.federalreserve.gov/generalinfo/faq/faqfrbanks.htm#6
Commercial banks that are members of the Federal Reserve System hold stock in the Reserve Bank in their region, but they do not exercise control over the Reserve Bank or the Federal Reserve System. Holding stock in a regional Reserve Bank does not carry with it the kind of control and financial interest that holding publicly traded stock affords, and the stock may not be sold or traded. Member banks do, however, receive a fixed 6 percent dividend annually on their stock and elect six of the nine members of the Reserve Bank's board of directors.

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Re: Geopolitics/Geoeconomics Thread - June 2015

Postby tandav » 21 Mar 2020 18:15

What does an economy of essentials look like? Assuming that we have widespread shutdown of most activity and have to work from home. Consumer is sitting mostly at home and all transactions are routed through delivery services... then how does the economy function... Is it possible to deliver most goods and services using only local people. What will it look like?

Low hanging fruit:
Governance will have to move online
Judiciary will have to move online
The meaning of money itself may change


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Re: Geopolitics/Geoeconomics Thread - June 2015

Postby ricky_v » 25 Mar 2020 04:56

Do not want to derail the wuhan thread; civilizational interaction with other societies amongst our species follows a similar pattern.
First comes the "european" model of fighting with every other state, the most virulent and energetic phase.
Second comes the "3 state" model, the middling-phase if you will, where groups band together in 3 different entities for control of resources and overall dominance.
Third is the "mahajanapada" model, where the focus is not so much outwards, as inwards. Inevitably, all stable civilizations falling prey to cultural ennui reach this stage, and falter against the newer strain still in the first stage. The only way out is to co-opt the invading strain and to incorporate into the wider body of existing consciousness.
With the ever increasing channels of communication between all participating societies, the cycle keeps spinning faster. By the middle of the last century, the first model promptly morphed into the second, and with the onset of fatigue, was well on its way to the third. Following the wuhan virus, the formation of multiple *cliques for trade is on point, and is likely to remain that way till the sailing of starry seas becomes commonplace, following which the cycle will repeat.

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Re: Geopolitics/Geoeconomics Thread - June 2015

Postby Suraj » 25 Mar 2020 23:26

Once the dust has settled to some extent on the coronavirus crisis, probably later in summer, my view is that one thing will become apparent to SEA, ME and EU - the OBOR / BRI brought almost the entire world economy to a standstill by acting as the carrier of a pandemic. Spain, Italy all of whom have large PRC populations engaged in manufacture that was integrated to PRC supply chains via OBOR/BRI, are going to realize this just became the modern day Silk Road that caused the Black Death.

The OBOR/BRI are Eleven's signature policy initiatives, and that's what's doing to bring him down.

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Re: Geopolitics/Geoeconomics Thread - June 2015

Postby sampat » 26 Mar 2020 01:41

i wouldn't be so sure about Italy or Spain ditching China. Italians recently removed European flag and replaced it with Chinese. As they are the one helping them when EU turned its back. Spain also ordered millions (was it 400 million?) worth of medical equipment from China. It looks like China has come on top. I don't think supply chain of non-critical items will shift anytime soon from China. Only Trump is talking about ChinaVirus, rest all will talk about Chinese money.

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Re: Geopolitics/Geoeconomics Thread - June 2015

Postby ricky_v » 26 Mar 2020 04:32

Med folks are very expressive and very catholic, and during this crisis bodies were cremated to such an extent that many incinerators had backlogs. The government may cave that is true, but the common mario and diego on the street, probably not.

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Re: Geopolitics/Geoeconomics Thread - June 2015

Postby Kaivalya » 26 Mar 2020 06:01

Setup for Winnie the pooh has already started for good or bad

https://warontherocks.com/2020/03/chinas-strategic-assessment-of-india/

If India comes out of corona pandemic relatively unscathed, pooh bear has to explain how a democratic leader can have more impact than the supleme commandel.

If dark scenarios play out especially it will push India back 21 years like Modiji mentioned and Pooh will be victorious locally and spend more on obor/pigs economies

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Re: Geopolitics/Geoeconomics Thread - June 2015

Postby chanakyaa » 30 Mar 2020 06:59

Countries are preparing to protect domestic industries from the impending recession...

Australia to review all foreign investments during coronavirus
Australia will require all foreign investment proposals to be assessed by its Foreign Investment Review Board (FIRB) during the duration of the coronavirus crisis to prevent a fire sale of distressed corporate assets...


Germany to block foreign takeovers, protect domestic companies – top politicians
Germany will protect domestic firms from foreign takeovers, two leading politicians said on Friday, after company valuations in Europe’s largest economy have been hammered by the coronavirus pandemic. Ministers have already promised liquidity support to businesses, and introduced measures making it easier to reduce working hours rather than lay off workers...

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Re: Geopolitics/Geoeconomics Thread - June 2015

Postby vimal » 30 Mar 2020 07:32

^^ This is more to protect valuable corporations from being acquired for peanuts by the Hans due to market crash. Hans can now pick stocks in many valuable assets for peanuts and control the world economy. The more I think the more bio-weapon look plausible.

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Re: Geopolitics/Geoeconomics Thread - June 2015

Postby g.sarkar » 30 Mar 2020 10:16

https://www.spiegel.de/international/eu ... 421ef3d2e'
North-South Divide
Calls for Corona Bonds Met with Familiar "Nein"

The danger of a new euro crisis is growing. Weak member states like Italy need help if they're going to survive the coronavirus lockdown financially. But the call for euro bonds has been met with stiff resistance -- especially from the Germans.
By Frank Hornig, Armin Mahler, Peter Müller, Anton Rainer und Christian Reiermann, 27.03.2020.

On Monday, Adrio Pierantoni wanted to know what the government could do for him. Like almost all Italian companies that don't produce medicine or food, Pierantoni was forced to close his small shop in the town of Fano on the Adriatic coast. It was the latest in a series of measures designed to contain the outbreak of the coronavirus, measures that have brought the Italian economy to a standstill. Pierantoni crunched the numbers. He calculated his missing sales, his outstanding loans, the difficult situation for his employees and suppliers -- and called his tax adviser. "We just wanted to ask how much support we could count on," he says. He didn't have to wait long for an answer. Pierantoni could theoretically expect to receive 600 euros ($660) once the forms finally arrived. His company, on the other hand, would get nothing.
Pierantoni's company, Zeppelin, has been around for more than 20 years. It makes tailor-made furniture for Milanese furniture stores. The company is healthy. Normally it wouldn't need any help from the state. But closed stores don't need furniture, which is why Pierantoni urgently needs money. "Six hundred euros wouldn't even pay the electricity bill now," he says. The entrepreneur often finds himself looking to Germany these days. He runs the company with his wife Gabi, a German from the southern town of Rastatt. They met through a sister-city program. Germany is also home to important customers and business partners of Zeppelin's -- as well as politicians who pass laws that Pierantoni would like to see Italy adopt. Things like protective economic measures, relief funds and billion-euro bailouts. As for the number of people infected with coronavirus, Pierantoni believes Germany is two weeks behind Italy. But as far as subsidies for the economy are concerned, "it's months ahead of us."
Two Very Different Approaches
Pierantoni gets to see first-hand how the two countries are dealing with the economic consequences of the coronavirus. Or rather, how they're able to deal with the crisis.
In Germany, money seems to be no object. On Wednesday, German lawmakers passed a supplementary budget of 156 billion euros to mitigate the shock to the country's economy. In total, the German government will provide economic aid worth 1.8 trillion euros.
Italy doesn't have these kinds of options. The country's debt load is 130 percent greater than its gross domestic product (GDP). Its financial leeway is limited. The European Commission has waived all debt requirements for member states so that national governments can borrow at will. But this will only work as long as creditors are willing to lend money to countries at reasonable rates.
Italy, as well as France, Spain and Portugal, could soon reach their limits. In view of the heavy burdens that will be placed on countries, doubts in the markets are likely to grow as to whether they'll ever be able to repay their debts. This same fear took hold of the financial markets after the collapse of Lehman Brothers. It nearly destroyed the currency union.
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Re: Geopolitics/Geoeconomics Thread - June 2015

Postby DharmaB » 02 Apr 2020 03:37

Apart from habal ji, I guess nobody on this forum highlighted on the conspeeracy theories much. In view of the extraordinary current situation of the world, would like to shed some light, if it may provide some hints to understand the current situation and possible scenarios. I had read much on this during last recession times and later, but then it slowly faded away from my consciousness as more and more it looked like ridiculous and delusional. But there are certainly some missing dots which could be mapped from both the real world stories and these consprcy theories to some extent. I want to be cautious in stating that, people don't like to hear much on this subject and there is no need to take anything in its totality, but there are many possibilities in this crazy crazy world. Who thought few months back that we would face a situation like this which may bring the whole world on its knees.

The big question is, is it the deep state unleashing this on China and rest of the world purposly, and making a case to fix China as the instigator ? Or is it really China doing it for their world dominance ?

Anyway wanted to share this video as to sum up for those who are interested. And would like to hear the feedback.
Moderators can issue a warning if this type of subject is not welcome here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQwfbEmGlzQ

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Re: Geopolitics/Geoeconomics Thread - June 2015

Postby ricky_v » 02 Apr 2020 05:55

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https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-trump-launches-massive-all-out-military-war-on-drug-cartels
“As governments and nations focus on the Coronavirus, there is a growing threat that cartels, criminals, terrorists, and other malign actors will try to exploit the situation for their own gain and we must not let that happen,” Trump said. “We will never let that happen. Today the United States is launching enhanced counter narcotics operations in the western hemisphere to protect the American people from the deadly scourge of illegal narcotics.”

“We must not let the drug cartels exploit the pandemic to threaten American lives,” Trump continued. “In cooperation with the 22 partner nations, the U.S. Southern Command will increase surveillance, disruption, and seizures of drug shipments, and provide additional support for eradication efforts that are going on right now at a record pace.”

“We are deploying additional Navy destroyers, combat ships, aircraft and helicopters, Coast Guard cutters and Air Force surveillance aircraft, doubling the capabilities in the region,” Trump continued. “Very importantly, our forces are fully equipped with personnel protective equipment, and we have taken additional safety measures to ensure that our troops remain healthy.”

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Re: Geopolitics/Geoeconomics Thread - June 2015

Postby vimal » 02 Apr 2020 06:05

ricky_v wrote:Image
https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-trump-launches-massive-all-out-military-war-on-drug-cartels
“As governments and nations focus on the Coronavirus, there is a growing threat that cartels, criminals, terrorists, and other malign actors will try to exploit the situation for their own gain and we must not let that happen,” Trump said. “We will never let that happen. Today the United States is launching enhanced counter narcotics operations in the western hemisphere to protect the American people from the deadly scourge of illegal narcotics.”

“We must not let the drug cartels exploit the pandemic to threaten American lives,” Trump continued. “In cooperation with the 22 partner nations, the U.S. Southern Command will increase surveillance, disruption, and seizures of drug shipments, and provide additional support for eradication efforts that are going on right now at a record pace.”

“We are deploying additional Navy destroyers, combat ships, aircraft and helicopters, Coast Guard cutters and Air Force surveillance aircraft, doubling the capabilities in the region,” Trump continued. “Very importantly, our forces are fully equipped with personnel protective equipment, and we have taken additional safety measures to ensure that our troops remain healthy.”


Meanwhile, the Chinese are buying all the stocks from S&P 500.

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Re: Geopolitics/Geoeconomics Thread - June 2015

Postby vishvak » 02 Apr 2020 08:32

the Chinese are buying all the stocks from S&P 500.

The Jews were earlier villains for Germans, the Russians didn't buy so much still there was humongous cold war but Chinese are shutting down all over while buying out. Isn't above (buying out ) going to affect everyone.


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