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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby arun » 23 Jul 2015 13:50

Seems that the BJP led Modi Sarkar has granted secessionist Syed Ali Geelani an undeserved Indian passport in order to maintain political power via an unprincipled electoral alliance with the PDP in Jammu & Kashmir :

Geelani gets passport on ‘humanitarian grounds’

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Postby Sachin » 23 Jul 2015 15:36

arun wrote:Seems that the BJP led Modi Sarkar has granted secessionist Syed Ali Geelani an undeserved Indian passport in order to maintain political power via an unprincipled electoral alliance with the PDP in Jammu & Kashmir

But the old terrorist champ had to formally record his citizen ship as Indian and also give the biometric data. As per ToI(let) the terrorist had whined that "I am not Indian by birth Indian. It is a compulsion" :(( :evil:.

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Postby RoyG » 24 Jul 2015 23:08

New Kashmiri jihadist group adopts extreme violence, internet propaganda
Reuters | Jul 24, 2015, 10.32 PM IST


MUZAFFARABAD/SRINAGAR: A Pakistan-based militant group has disowned a splinter faction suspected of a string of killings in Jammu & Kashmir, with the rebuke followed swiftly on Friday by a string of attacks on telecoms facilities in the state's main city.

The escalating rivalry is fuelling concern that rogue militants could ratchet up tension between India and Pakistan.

Hizbul Mujahideen, a Kashmiri separatist group whose leader, Syed Salahuddin, is based in Pakistan, said on Thursday it had expelled Abdul Qayoom Najar over his involvement in "gruesome murder" and the "character assassination of established 'pro-freedom' leadership".

Indian security forces say Najar leads a breakaway group called Lashkar-e-Islam that has perpetrated a series of attacks around Sopore, killing five people including telecoms vendors and former militants.

In an apparent escalation on Friday, three more attacks were carried out on telecoms facilities in the Muslim-majority state's summer capital of Srinagar, one of them near the office of chief minister Mufti Mohammad Sayeed.

A senior police officer said one person had been injured in the attack near the chief minister's office, which declined to comment.

Earlier, militants threw grenades inside two mobile phone shops in Srinagar, injuring one person.

Lashkar-e-Islam has warned people to stop working for telecommunications companies, saying that security forces are using mobile phone services to target members of the group.

Generation gap

The decision to expel Najar was taken by Hizbul Mujahideen's command council headed by Salahuddin, a 69-year-old Islamic preacher who turned to militancy in the late 1980s.

The bearded cleric is widely viewed as allied to hardline Kashmiri separatist leader Syed Ali Shah Geelani, who is 85.


"The report submitted by the inquiry commission has proved that Qayoom Najar, in an utter disregard of the Hizb leadership, violated the constitution of the outfit and carried out condemnable acts. Our constitution does not allow or permit such actions," Salahuddin said in a statement.

Analysts say the emergence of a breakaway faction could mean that a new generation of Kashmiri militants is trying to force aside the ageing separatist leadership — inspired by jihadists elsewhere who have resorted to extreme violence and spread their message through social media.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 207467.cms


Pure vs Purer. We're getting closer. I welcome this.

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X Posted from the “Pakistani Role In Global terrorism” thread.

11 active terror mails in Kashmir Valley run from Pakistan: US :

Economic Times

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A Pakistan-based militant group has disowned a splinter faction suspected of a string of killings in Jammu & Kashmir, with the rebuke followed swiftly on Friday by a string of attacks on telecoms facilities in the state's main city.


The paki scum have actively been working on degrading the cell phone network in J&K because the cell phone network allows citizens to report activities of jihadis without revealing their identity --in the past, any such attempt by citizens to report on jihadi activity would get them killed because the J&K government is filled with pro-paki jihadis who would leak the information....even otherwise, the point remains that the pakis and their friendly islamist scum in J&K have an agenda to degrade and destroy cell phone networks in J&K.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby ramana » 05 Aug 2015 00:09

Book Review:

Kashmir The Vajpayee Years: A.S. Dulat



Book review: A rare, masterful glimpse into Indian statecraft

Prashant Jha, Hindustan Times, New Delhi
| Updated: Jul 06, 2015 15:40 IST



The book by AS Dulat and Aditya Sinha gives a rare glimpse of Kashmir’s multi-layered approach to dealing with rebellions, how policy is formulated.

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Last year, soon after Narendra Modi was elected as Prime Minister, a senior independent journalist, Ved Pratap Vaidik, met the Laskar-e-Toiba supremo and alleged 26/11 mastermind, Hafeez Sayeed. This sparked widespread condemnation from segments of the political class as well as the media. Given Vaidik's close links with the BJP and those in government, it was not clear whether he was operating on his own as a journalist or whether he had been deputed by the government to reach out to Sayeed, in a manner that would allow the state to maintain 'plausible deniability'.



Many dismissed this as wild speculation and argued that there was little chance the government would engage with an 'enemy' like Sayeed. The issue faded soon after and we still do not quite know the full truth.

But engagement with adversaries is a part of the brief for intelligence agencies and the national security state- as a new book shows us. From dialogue with Hashim Qureshi who was involved in hijacking a domestic airline back in the early 70s and enabling him to return to India to wooing an imprisoned separatist like Shabir Shah to participate in elections in 1996; from co-opting a militant like Firdous Syed who was involved in kidnapping the first foreigners in Kashmir and successfully lobbying for his inclusion as a legislator in the assembly to doing a favour for the Hizbul chief Salahuddin by getting his son admitted in a medical college, India's intelligence agencies have done it all - even as the state has continued to project these very individuals as adversaries to be fought and defeated.

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(FILES) In this picture taken December 27, 1999, A Taliban security official receives a paper on which the hijackers of Indian Airlines flight IC-814 have put their demands at Kandahar Airport. AFP photo

In a masterful account of his engagement with Kashmir over twenty five years, A S Dulat, a veteran of the spy trade – who was first in the Intelligence Bureau (IB); then headed Research and Analysis Wing (R&Aw) and worked in Atal Bihari Vajpayee’s PMO – has, among other issues, written about the critical role of ‘engagement’, of ‘talking’, of ‘dialogue’ with all stakeholders in any political conflict.

The book, co-written with the senior journalist Aditya Sinha, extensively documents Dulat’s and the Indian state’s engagement with various shades of political opinion in Kashmir, from the mainstream outfits to the separatists and the militants.

He deals with the element of financing; the patronage mechanisms available with the state and how it uses it; he documents how the state even lets separatists decide the timing of their release if under arrest (for instance, in the case of Shah in the mid-90s); he writes about the multiple rounds of conversations he has had with all the actors even when there was little tangible outcome.

This may have been well-known in the valley and those who make it their business to watch the Kashmiri political process; it may come as no surprise to those who have followed the trajectory of the Indian state’s engagement with various rebel outfits in the Northeast; and it may have been written about in the past in journalistic accounts based on intelligence sources.

In fact, examples of engagement with 'enemies' stretches beyond borders. In 2002-2003, Nepal was in the middle of a brutal civil war. The Royal Nepalese Army, backed by the international community, was battling a radical Maoist insurgency. India had been the first country to call the Nepali Maoists ‘terrorists’; it officially backed the Nepal government in the civil war. Yet, as it was arming Nepali security forces, India’s intelligence apparatus had begun engaging the Maoists, first through Intelligence Bureau and then the Research and Analysis Wing (R&AW) officials.

Almost seven years, after the war had ended and the Maoists had become a part of the democratic process, I asked a former R&AW chief, who had been in the thick of Nepal operations if this did not indicate hypocrisy at best and deception at worst. He explained the approach, “We had links; we had communication. But that is the nature of intelligence organisations. We keep in touch with the enemy, and we establish channels so that if at any point, our policy-makers shift tracks, there is a pathway to implement it.”

The value of this book lies in the fact that disclosures about engagement of this nature have come from a former top-ranking official. The value lies in the fact that at a time that at a time when public discourse is often reduced to us and them, heroes and villains, black and white frameworks, ‘driven by a hyper-nationalistic media’ as the journalist Barkha Dutt put it on her show on the book, Dulat puts on record that reality is a lot more complex.

Conflicts are messy; neat linear theories do not quite explain it all; and examining such situations through the prism of only morality, giving one side the high ground; is futile. In this sense, those in government are, at times, more mature and open than many outside in the public sphere, who becomes the self-appointed advocates of the national security state.

The Indian state has learnt key skills over its decades of dealing with rebel movements. And this is why force is only one of the tools at its disposal. It engages; it coerces; it divides; it threatens; it frustrates the leadership and cadre; it exhausts; it corrupts; it lures and co-opts; it repeats the cycle; and it gives nothing. Dulat has been careful about not revealing operational details and this is not a ‘tell-all’, but his account gives us a good sense of how these tools are used. As a Kashmiri interlocutor told him, “You were sent to disrupt the (Kashmir) movement…in the friendliest possible manner.”

The fundamental premise of this multi-layered approach is that the state’s bleeding capacity is a lot higher; the state is far more resilient; its coercive apparatus is formidable; and it just has to ‘manage’ the situation. At the HT leadership summit last year, the National Security Advisor, A K Doval, gave a peek into this mindset - perhaps inadvertently - when he suggested that India's ability to take a lot of casualties had dented the impact of terrorism. India's size and population means that even if one part is rocked by violence, life continues as 'normal' in the rest of the country. The 'body bag' issue - where administrations have to pay a price for the death of US soldiers and citizens and is of great salience in American politics - has never become as live a political issue in India.

A neat solution is ideal, and Dulat himself has always taken the initiative to think out of the box to look for such solutions. But when no neat solutions exist, the choice is not, in Ashis Nandy’s evocative phrase, ‘between chaos and stability, but between manageable and unmanageable chaos’.

Intelligence agencies in difficult conflict zones hope to achieve manageable chaos; they have to ensure that if there is instability, this instability remains controlled. Kashmir presents such a fundamental challenge for them precisely because the degree of control keeps slipping, given the multiple other actors around.

If laying out the complexity of a conflict, and giving us a glimpse into the Indian statecraft, is the first achievement of the Dulat-Sinha book, the second lies in revealing how policy is often formulated and implemented; the role of chance in shaping history; the interaction and discord between the different institutions of the state; and the dynamic between the political leadership and bureaucratic initiative.

Policies are often not made after deep introspection. Key policies emerge at moments of crisis, when the government is in damage-control mode. Individual impulse, casual conversations often have a far-reaching impact and unintended consequences. Dulat gives innumerable examples to show us this.

Vajpayee’s formulation of ‘insaniyat’ as the framework to deal with Kashmir came as an off the cuff response to a journalist who asked about the utility of dialogue within the constitutional framework. In the 90s, a young militant who was arrested revealed to Dulat that Abdul Majid Dar, a key Hizbul Mujahideen leader, may be willing to move back – Dulat could not do much since he was in IB and Dar was based in Pakistan, which was R&AW’s domain. The intense turf war between the two outfits is an open secret in Delhi – and Dulat saw it first-hand when he became the RAW chief and had to face hostility from within. But this also gave him a chance to take up Dar’s issue and facilitated his transfer. This, in turn, led to a ceasefire with the group and dialogue – it did not go far but it is instructive to remember how a set of events by chance led to a peace initiative.

Dulat ends his book with a set of ‘what if’ questions – what if Sheikh Abdullah had not been arrested in 1953; what if Farooq Abdullah had not been dismissed in 1984; what if a separatist leader like Shabir Shah had participated in the 1996 elections; what if Vajpayee had not lost power in 2004 and the peace initiative with Hurriyat continued?

More questions can be added to this set, based on Dulat’s own account. What if the 1987 elections were free and fair and not rigged – would individuals like Salahuddin and Yasin Malik ever joined the separatist ranks? What would have happened if India had not released militants to rescue Rubaiya Sayeed? What would have happened if the more moderate leaders of Hurriyat, like A G lone, not been killed?


But while these are fascinating questions, this is not a book of counter-factual history. It is an empirical account of what has happened in the past two and a half decades in Kashmir. Dulat has his soft spots – he appears very fond of Farooq Abdullah, for instance. It is striking that the issue of the cost of keeping the Indian state’s supremacy in the valley intact – the massive human rights violations at the hands of security agencies – barely figures in the narrative of someone who claims to have such deep empathy for Kashmiris.

In the focus on high-politics, the roots of the persisting alienation get neglected. Separatists may also well see this as a plot to discredit them and expose their dalliance with the government they oppose.

But none of this can take away from the fact that Dulat and Sinha have done great service by giving a rare glimpse into the working of the Indian state.

Kashmir: The Vajpayee Years, A S Dulat with Aditya Sinha
Harper Collins
Rs 599






I think the reviewer would rather live in US. He writes like he is not part of the system!!!!

Sheikh Abdullah by many accounts was conspiring with US and had to be arrested. Normally it would have been much worse.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby Prem » 05 Aug 2015 10:13

One CRPF Jawan and one terrorist killed in Udhampur. Search is on for other terrorists.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby Singha » 05 Aug 2015 10:36

the escaped terrorist is reported to have taken 3 hostages in the forest...not clear what that means.

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Postby wig » 05 Aug 2015 12:03

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 356117.cms

Terror attack on J&K highway: For any info about fleeing terrorists, contact Army helpline: 09467800234, 09419166790.

Militants attack BSF convoy on J&K highway, 2 jawans and 1 ultra killed; encounter still under way

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby wig » 05 Aug 2015 12:09

one terrorist has been caught alive, and two hostages released

One terrorist caught alive, two hostages rescued,

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 356117.cms

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby arun » 05 Aug 2015 14:09

wig wrote:one terrorist has been caught alive, and two hostages released

One terrorist caught alive, two hostages rescued,

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 356117.cms


I see this news has already made it here, a a good bit of time before, nonetheless ...................

X Posted from the “Pakistani Role In Global Terrorism” thread.

Mohammadden Terrorist with origins in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan captured while attacking a bus carrying BSF personnel, sadly killing 3 BSF troopers, in Udhampur:

J&K: One Pakistani terrorist captured alive, another killed in gun battle

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby Raja Ram » 05 Aug 2015 14:21

The terrorist ladka from Pakistan, Usman, was overpowered by two villagers who were his hostages after they duped and misled him! Good show Vikramjit Singh and Rakesh Kumar! Give them a medal and jobs if they need one!

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby Aditya_V » 05 Aug 2015 15:49

Any chance the Pakis will now Mistreat Usman and his entire family. A few more such cases of surrender and mistreatment of families and somehow these aam abduls with relatives in the non officer cadre of uniformed Jihadis. Eventually leading to AAfsar vs non afsar fight.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby SSridhar » 05 Aug 2015 18:06

Just wait for some more time. Many Indians would crop up from nowhere defending that baalak.

If one looks at the TV-aired confession of this guy, one knows he is well trained. His demeanour is exactly like that of Ajmal Kasab.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby Sachin » 05 Aug 2015 18:27

SSridhar wrote:If one looks at the TV-aired confession of this guy, one knows he is well trained. His demeanour is exactly like that of Ajmal Kasab.

Excellent!! So is there a TV-aired confession? Then let us be rest assured that the media would now archive this and pop it up as soon as some stringent punishment (like hanging) is given to him. It would be again the story of, how he cooperated by confessing, and showing the role of Pakistan etc. The Hindu, would be sending messages to the 43 "eminent" citizens informing that they are to be back to sign the next petition :evil:.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby CRamS » 05 Aug 2015 18:28

I doubt this arrest will make any difference to the narrative. Here is why. In J&K, TSP and WKKs and TSP's 3.5 will say this is kosher because there is a "dispute". They will call this guy a non state actor helping his Kashmiri brethren. TSP would have faced some embarrassment had one of their pigs been caught alive during the Gurdaspur attack. Look how quickly they denied their involvement in that attack as soon as the pigs were dead. But on this one, they won't say much.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

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Too late for NDTV and sickulars, ZEE and ABP and playing this live

I told you all many times, stop wasting time on rudalis, listen to zee/india tv

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby arun » 05 Aug 2015 19:22

X Posted from the Islamism thread an article reporting the same thing posted in the last 2 posts.

Mohammadden Terrorist originating in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan who was captured in Udhampur is very explicit about what he was doing in India. "I came to kill Hindus" was his comment:

'I came to kill Hindus': All you need to know about the militant who was captured in Udhampur

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby vasu raya » 05 Aug 2015 19:50

What is the latest TSP's emissary doing in J&K which is purportedly a muslim majority state if his intended targets were Hindus? incidentally all hostages were Hindus, not sure about the killed BSF jawan's religious identity, it says more about local support, in those 10 days of stay the local contacts he made need to be identified. Time and again we see that GPS enables precision selection of targets and reaching them in stealth, no point in discussing aftermath with GPS forensics if the attacks can be avoided in the first place by denying GPS.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby chetak » 05 Aug 2015 20:13

vasu raya wrote:What is the latest TSP's emissary doing in J&K which is purportedly a muslim majority state if his intended targets were Hindus? incidentally all hostages were Hindus, not sure about the killed BSF jawan's religious identity, it says more about local support, in those 10 days of stay the local contacts he made need to be identified. Time and again we see that GPS enables precision selection of targets and reaching them in stealth, no point in discussing aftermath with GPS forensics if the attacks can be avoided in the first place by denying GPS.



only the amrekis can turn off the GPS selectively like they did during the kargil war when they denied GPS to our Air force who needed it for some of their bombing runs. They will not do it to help us.

GPS evidence leading back to pakiland repeatedly surfacing with such detailed data is highly suspicious. The pakis are tactically very accomplished. Hope that this is not a feint and we do not get trapped later by all the media frenzied exposure in the DDM. Something seems to be building up and it certainly will not be pleasant.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby vasu raya » 05 Aug 2015 21:56

if we were to give these GPS sets to the Chinese instead of the FBI they might find ways to hack them.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby ramana » 06 Aug 2015 02:41

I think Omar Abdullah has lost it.
Calling a Paki terrorist from Fiasalabad, Pakjab a militant is duplicity.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby Prem » 06 Aug 2015 22:18

There is new encounter between police and terrorists going on in Udhampur.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby sukhish » 06 Aug 2015 22:28

it seems GOI strategy is to brazen it out, just like they do it in parliament. also where is our 56 inch man. it's time to send him out in the field now, enough of hiding.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby anchal » 06 Aug 2015 22:47

Pakis have surely escalated it. When is the thappad on the pigs coming, eagerly waiting. Hope it is in public view

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby Avinash R » 06 Aug 2015 23:08

sukhish wrote:it seems GOI strategy is to brazen it out, just like they do it in parliament. also where is our 56 inch man. it's time to send him out in the field now, enough of hiding.


for the enjoyment of mawalis who seems to itching to get GUBOed


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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby arun » 07 Aug 2015 22:57

X Posted from the STFUP thread.

India to boycott Commonwealth Parliamentary Union meeting in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan as the Islamic Republic did not send an invitation to Jammu and Kashmir Speaker to attend the Inter Parliamentary Union meeting.

A good move only missing the appellation excellent because of the pointlessness of the Commonwealth not going beyond providing the UK a blow job for the ego as colonial overlords enslaving at one point in time.

Better yet would be for Indian to ensure that not a single Commonwealth meeting is held in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, now or in the future, period.

And even better yet would be for India to exit this anachronistic monument to the Christist occupation and colonisation of our country India, the Commonwealth as India has no business fostering UK's pretensions :

India to boycott Commonwealth Parliamentary Union meeting in Pakistan : This follows Pakistan not sending an invitation to Jammu and Kashmir Speaker to the Inter Parliamentary Union meeting

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby Avinash R » 09 Aug 2015 11:25



gun battle is that something like a rap battle?

the mawalis in the media are busy inventing new ways to deflect attention from the persistent jihad of pakistani mawalis against india.

Press Trust Of India seems to have been infiltrated by a lot of these mawali presstitutes who release these twisted news items.

The ethics of journalism say the reporter's name should be published along with the report but PTI and ET disregard this to hide the mawali character preparing these propaganda items.

I wish one day these taqiyaa spouting mawali presstitutes die in a huge bomb blast along with their family. I will condole their death and report it as caused by a bomb battle.

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With the lobby group funded for the last 25 years not working now they are trying to get the IS entity to create a larger rpessure group.

IS as a movement is to wipe out the local history and create a one common identity and image of global islamic entity.

JK islamists want to merge with that identity to get large political support. India need to break this plan

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby Prem » 09 Aug 2015 22:51

ISIS Crisis in J&K can provide perfect excuse to execute all the undesirable overt and covert terrorist elements in the valley. It should be encouraged for at least next few years up to a certain level.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby ramana » 10 Aug 2015 21:17

Lot of cleanup in J&K after the Usman/Yakub/whatever was nabbed by the villagers.

Please follow-up here.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby ramana » 10 Aug 2015 22:50

Looks like Abu Qasim the Lashkar guy is trapped in an encounter.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby ramana » 10 Aug 2015 22:54

X-Post...
asgkhan wrote:http://zeenews.india.com/news/india/from-faisalabad-to-kashmir-following-captured-pak-terrorist-naveds-journey_1644860.html

Here are the main points of his Interrogation Report (IR) accessed by a leading daily, The Indian Express:-

Naved is the son of Mohammad Yaqoob, who is a manual labourer.

He started helping his family after dropping out of school due to poverty.

Naved came in contact with the LeT in 2011.

He was motivated by one 'Bashir' in Faisalabad to join Lashkar.

Bashir took him to a Lashkar office in Faisalabad in 2011.

He underwent 21 days of training at the Gari Habibullah training camp of Lashkar.

He returned home after completion of his training, but stayed in touch with Bashir who further motivated him to go to Muzaffarabad for three months arms training.

In August/ September 2014, he was taken to Shavai Nallah training camp of Lashkar for three- month arms training.

He was imparted training in handling AK-47, pistol and grenade throwing.

Naved was summoned for the J&K operation in March 2015, says the IR.

Naved was called by Lashkar commanders to another camp, Forward Kahutta, and kept there till he was sent to J&K.

The IR says Naved was one of the 4 LeT operatives who were sent across on the J&K mission.

The four crossed over in the Gulmarg sector, “right from Noori post,” says IR.

After walking for seven days, the four reached Baba Reshi near Gulmarg.

They crossed the Line of Control on June 3.

On their way to J&K, one “Khurshid” acted as their guide and helped them cross the LoC and then took them to Baba Reshi.

In Baba Reshi, they were received by Lashkar commander Ubaid, also a Pakistani national.

On June 9, they were taken in a truck to Chursoo in Awantipora.

In Chursoo, the four terrorists stayed at the house of brothers Fayaz Ahmad Wani and Javaid Ahmad Wani, who were arrested later.

The group stayed at Chursoo for two days, before being split.

Naveed then headed for Khrew, where the Lashkar’s alleged South Kashmir commander Abu Qasim, Doujana and Talha met him at a jungle hideout.

Naved stayed at the Khrew hideout for 45 days.

From Khrew, Naveed was taken to “Kakpora near Pulwama, where they met two local contacts - Mantri and Tanna (Tanvir) - who gave them logistical support.

Mantri and Tanna, both arrested, would ferry the militants around in his car.

Tanna took Doujana and Naved to Srinagar.

Naved was dropped at a petrol pump at the entrance of Srinagar city where he saw a river on the other side of the road.

He was dropped at Pathachowk. Tanna took Doujana to Lal Chowk where he collected 5 lakh rupees from somebody.

Naved returned to Kakpora where he spent two days with an alleged local Lashkar militant, Talib.

Doujana then took Naved to Khudwani in Kulgam district (south Kashmir).

At the time Naved was sent to Khrew, Noman had allegedly been taken to Anantnag.

Naved said that Abu Qasim, Talha and another Lashkar militant, Hamza, came to Fayaz’s house and stayed there for six days. An alleged local Hizbul Mujahideen militant, Majid Zargar, reportedly also visited them.

Qasim divulged the plan for an attack in Udhampur on August 3.

Naved and Noman left Khudwani at 1 pm in the truck on August 4.

On August 5, they left Tamatar morh at around 3.30 am and reached Narsoo Nallah, Sarmoli, where the truck driver dropped them near a dhaba.

At about 7 am, Noman saw a BSF convoy coming from Jammu side. They took out their AK-47 rifles and hand grenades and came out on either side of the road and opened fire at the convoy vehicles.

After Noman died, Naved panicked and began running for his life. He was later overpowered by the local villagers and handed over to the security forces.


All the pigs who helped these two pakis will be sh!tting bricks. I am very confident that intelligence agencies and the cops will string up all the players by their thumbs. Good job by the interrogators in getting info out of the p!g.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby AjayKK » 11 Aug 2015 11:05

How India's control over Pakistan-occupied Kashmir has loosened over time - Prasenjit Chowdhury

http://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/column ... us-2113012

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby vasu raya » 11 Aug 2015 13:40

Security forces intensify search operation against two militants hiding in Pulwama

According to a police official, the gunbattle resumed this morning after heavy fire was exchanged between the holed up militants and the security forces


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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2015

Postby chetak » 11 Aug 2015 14:21

vasu raya wrote:Security forces intensify search operation against two militants hiding in Pulwama

According to a police official, the gunbattle resumed this morning after heavy fire was exchanged between the holed up militants and the security forces


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