Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10, 2015

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby arun » 03 Aug 2015 18:17

chetak wrote:absolute lunatics. comes of deep in breeding and effing their squint eyed cousins.

LDUR??? even their surface railways don't work.

WTF are railway passengers going to do with access to the bay of bengal?? make paper boats??

India is going to keep quiet while the pakis are merrily digging away under Indian territory?? Just like we own the airspace, we also own the space underneath our land, no??

Pakistan Defence ‏@pk_defence Jul 30
Indians have Pakistani ancestry. But their false education system has always hidden this fact.
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Pakistan Defence ‏@pk_defence Jul 31
A lot of Indians abroad when asked about their nationality say that they are Pakistanis.This is to avoid embarrassment.
4:52 AM - 31 Jul 2015 ·

Pakistan Defence ‏@pk_defence 10h10 hours ago
Pakistan must get its share of the Kohinoor.They should cut it half if required. Giving it entirely to India is not acceptable.
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Pakistan Defence ‏@pk_defence 10h10 hours ago
Shocked to see Britain thinking of Giving Kohinoor Diamond to India without considering Pakistan.Its our property too.
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Pakistan Defence ‏@pk_defence 24h24 hours ago
In 1971India denied us airspace. We had to travel more than 5000 kms circling india to reach east Pakistan. LDUR will solve that purpose.
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Gen Hameed Gul ‏@GenHameedGul 20h20 hours ago
Lahore Dhaka Underground Railways (LDUR) will ensure continuous Islamic land from Morocco in West to Bangladesh in East .#LDUR


Pakistan Defence ‏@pk_defence 24h24 hours ago
Connecting Lahore to Dhaka via under ground railway/ roadways will give Pakistan access to 1: Bay of Bengal 2: ASEAN countries.



Treat it as strictly satirical humour on a pair of parody / spoof twitter accounts, for that is what it is :wink: .

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby CRamS » 03 Aug 2015 18:25

jash_p wrote:can anybody post Fair baby's latest on terrorist attack on Punjab ?


I was wondering the same. Has she given an interview or written something post Gurdaspur? What a pity it is that one has to rely on a foreigner to tell it like it is: I dread reading anything on DDM about Gurdaspur, 95% of the time, it will be about "talks must continue", "international community wants India to be responsible" and crap like that. And thats the best one can get, I don't even want to think about the worst kind of anal-yses by the likes of Bekar Patel and many others like him.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby Falijee » 03 Aug 2015 18:42

Peace clinic: Indian doctor conducts camp for liver transplant patients in Karachi

Such one sided humanitarian gestures should be strongly discouraged, until Pakistan mends its ways :twisted:

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby SSridhar » 03 Aug 2015 18:43

CRamS wrote:
jash_p wrote:can anybody post Fair baby's latest on terrorist attack on Punjab ?


I was wondering the same. Has she given an interview or written something post Gurdaspur?

Yes, she has. It appeared in ToI two days back. But, it is somehow not available to link. It was a hard-hitting one as usual.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby Falijee » 03 Aug 2015 18:56

Paki Hopes Dashed : Iran -Pakistan Gas Pipeline - Uncle Refuses To Oblige :D

Pakistan, a Sovereign Islamic State has to ask A non Islamic State's permission to built a pipeline - unbelievable, shame ! shame ! :!: :rotfl:

US ‘softly’ :roll: says no to Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline project

WASHINGTON – US State Department spokesperson Mark Toner has said that the Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline project will not yet benefit from the nuclear agreement that may ease economic sanctions on Tehran, a private TV channel reported on Monday.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby Gagan » 03 Aug 2015 18:57

LDUR !!!
OMG !!!

:rotfl:

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby shiv » 03 Aug 2015 18:57

Falijee wrote:Peace clinic: Indian doctor conducts camp for liver transplant patients in Karachi

Such one sided humanitarian gestures should be strongly discouraged, until Pakistan mends its ways :twisted:

The hallmarks of a pacifist state that will ignore hostility simply to "do good things"

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby Gagan » 03 Aug 2015 19:00

Pakistan can build that Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline in two weeeks.
I read somewhere that Chaina has already deposited one third of $46 billion, i.e. $15 billion in Pakistani banks.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby rsingh » 03 Aug 2015 19:16

Gagan wrote:LDUR !!!
OMG !!!

:rotfl:


Lahore Underground Network to Dhaka
:mrgreen:

Wich means
Lahori Underground Network in Dhaka
This network already exist in Dhaka for long time.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby Shreeman » 03 Aug 2015 19:25

Shouldnt the bakis be digging west? To be one with the corn, ahem, makka. Why are they digging to the sewer they polluted for twenty some years until 71? At least aim for oeurope, central asia, or amreeka. To be one with one of the four fathers. A new back channel. Bakistan silky smooth railways?

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby arun » 03 Aug 2015 19:29

Falijee wrote:Paki Hopes Dashed : Iran -Pakistan Gas Pipeline - Uncle Refuses To Oblige :D

Pakistan, a Sovereign Islamic State has to ask A non Islamic State's permission to built a pipeline - unbelievable, shame ! shame ! :!: :rotfl:

US ‘softly’ :roll: says no to Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline project

WASHINGTON – US State Department spokesperson Mark Toner has said that the Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline project will not yet benefit from the nuclear agreement that may ease economic sanctions on Tehran, a private TV channel reported on Monday.



A case of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan salivating at the prospect of tasty meal only to find out not only the food but the plate itself is missing :lol: .

:wink: What the Islamic Republic of Pakistan has not realized is the lifting of commercial sanctions on Iran is a two edged sword. Lifting of commercial sanctions will also unshackle Iran from being limited to supplying gas via pipelines to those in their broad neigbourhood by opening access to closely held natural gas liquefaction technology and thereby a much wider market for their natural gas. When commercial sanctions are lifted, India should make an offer of setting up and running a natural gas liquefaction plant in Iran that will exclusively supply India against a guaranteed long term Iranian natural gas supply commitment. The higher cost of such a move will be offset by not having to deal with the inevitable attempts by the Islamic Republic to disrupt supply of gas in a pipeline that crosses their territory.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby Gagan » 03 Aug 2015 19:48

rsingh wrote:
Gagan wrote:LDUR !!!
OMG !!!

:rotfl:


Lahore Underground Network to Dhaka
:mrgreen:

Worse,
I'm afraid it is only a matter of time before they implement the next phase
LAhore Underground Dhaka and ASEAN network

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby krithivas » 03 Aug 2015 20:20

Please understand that Pakistani's usually prefer to have complex surgeries performed in India, or as in this case have Indian doctors over, because it is very "expensive" in Pakistan. Not that they have such extraordinary capability and technology but Indian doctors are "cheap". And some moron will have a fund raising drive in India to make a cheap thing become "free". Now all the extra savings can be wisely invested in their Djinn-Angle-of-God-Jihadi Training and Technology centers.

shiv wrote:
Falijee wrote:Peace clinic: Indian doctor conducts camp for liver transplant patients in Karachi

Such one sided humanitarian gestures should be strongly discouraged, until Pakistan mends its ways :twisted:

The hallmarks of a pacifist state that will ignore hostility simply to "do good things"

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby svenkat » 03 Aug 2015 20:27

http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-192941-Altaf-asks-workers-to-demand-UN,-White-House,-NATO-for-troops-in-Karachi

DALLAS: Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) Chief Altaf Hussain has asked his party workers to stage protests in front of United Nations, White House and NATO and raise a demand for sending their troops to Karachi.

Altaf Hussain was addressing MQM’s Annual Convention in the US city of Dallas via telephone.

Altaf said, India itself is a coward country, if it had some honor it would not have allowed 'bloodshed of Mohajirs' on Pakistani soil. He reiterated the demand for a separate province for Mohajirs.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby member_23370 » 03 Aug 2015 20:44

These doctors should be barred from re-entering India. Cancel their licenses or impose hefty fines.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby rsingh » 03 Aug 2015 20:45

Gagan wrote
Worse,
I'm afraid it is only a matter of time before they implement the next phase
LAhore Underground Dhaka and ASEAN network


That leads to China Undeground Tianman Intersection Area which is a no -go area. It is guarded as a state secret and China will not allow any traspassing of its sovergin areas.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby Gagan » 03 Aug 2015 20:54

Damn,
I was working to unravel this secret myself, I had the China part all figured out

:rotfl:

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby Rahul M » 03 Aug 2015 21:01

okay, that's enough acronym play in this thread.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby SBajwa » 03 Aug 2015 21:39

http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/punjab ... 14850.html

Pak woman’s arrest: Heads may roll for security lapse

Pakistani woman Chand Khan alias Fojia, who was held travelling on the Samjhauta Express without valid documents, was today remanded in police custody for five more days. Many heads are likely to roll in the investigations being carried out various agencies, including immigration, Customs, BSF and Intelligence.

The Government Railway Police today produced her before duty magistrate seeking the extension of custody to probe the matter as they were yet to ascertain how she managed to board the train without valid documents.

Dharminder Kalyan, SHO, GRP police station, said they would scrutinise the CCTV footage again, besides going through all records. He said the GRP had sought the help of the Customs Department to contact Pakistani authorities to ascertain how she managed to board the highly sensitive train without valid documents.

Chand Khan, wife of Salman Khan of Karachi, was arrested by the GRP from Jalandhar late on Friday night.

The incident has raised many an eyebrow as it was a major lapse on part of various agencies active at the Attari railway station that too at a time when there is high alert in the country following the terrorist attack in Dinanagar on July 27.

She was caught by the railway authorities while travelling on Samjhauta Express which started its journey for Delhi from Attari railway station around 8.15 pm. She could not produce tickets and visa documents regarding her journey to India before the travelling ticket examiner (TTE). She was later handed over to the GRP, Jalandhar, and brought to Amritsar the next day.

Chand Khan had claimed that her passport and tickets were with her maternal uncle Rashid Khan who had alighted at Attari railway station for getting water. However, she could not give satisfactory answers to the queries.

Surinder Singh Sodhi, IG, GRP, said there seemed to be a major lapse on part of immigration authorities at Attari and it should be investigated so that such instance were not repeated. Immigration authorities have also launched a probe in this regard, it is learnt.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby jrjrao » 03 Aug 2015 22:00

jash_p wrote:can anybody post Fair baby's latest on terrorist attack on Punjab ?


The link to that TOI blog post is not working, but I got this from my google cache:

Gurdaspur hit: India can’t afford a tepid response
August 2, 2015, 2:28 AM IST
C Christine Fair
From the moment it became apparent that Narendra Modi would become India’s Prime Minister, Pakistan has wondered how India would respond to its terrorist predations. Would it follow the path of the previous PM Manmohan Singh and tolerate Pakistan-based terrorism in hopes of avoiding any entanglement that would retard India’s economic ascent? Or, would it pursue a more hawkish policy? Earlier this week, Pakistan tested the waters when it dispatched three terrorists to Gurdaspur via the Ravi River. The attackers killed seven people, including a Punjab police SP, before being felled.

It’s not the first time Pakistan has sought to test the mettle of this government: in May 2014, before Modi had been sworn in, the Indian consulate in Herat, Afghanistan was attacked. Analysts believed the Herat attackers were either associated with Lashkar-e-Taiba, now operating as “Jamaat-ud-Dawa,” or the Haqqani network, both of which operate at the behest of Pakistan’s ISI. The next test came in March 2015 when two heavily armed militants raided a police station in J&K’s Kathua district — the first such attack after the PDP and BJP formed a coalition government in the state.

The Gurdaspur incident comes soon after Modi’s meeting with Pakistan’s Nawaz Sharif on the sidelines of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization meet in Ufa, Russia on July 10. For peaceniks, it heralded new portents for South Asian peace mongering. The mombatti-wallahs lauded the agreements, including a much-celebrated common definition of terrorism. This would be of little comfort to the victims of Gurdaspur who perished under this agreed-upon lexicon.

Such optimism was misplaced to begin with. One, even if Nawaz Sharif wants peace — a questionable assertion — he is not the Sharif that matters: Army chief Raheel Sharif is the one in charge. Pakistan’s army has no incentive to normalize relations with India; its pre-eminent hold upon the state is predicated upon an interminable civilizational war with “Hindu India”. Second, such meetings can be productive if there is some glimmer of common ground. Alas, there is little evidence of that. Pakistan wants to change the status quo through terrorism backed by nuclear proliferation while India wants to ratify the status quo and get on with the business of being a rising power.

The Gurdaspur attack should remove any doubt that Pakistan’s generals want peace with India. This attack is a clever move for several reasons. It is the first attack during the Modi government’s tenure that has taken place outside of J&K. Yet Gurdaspur, a middling city that will not capture public attention for long, does not have the provocation potential of an attack on Delhi or Mumbai. Would India risk war for Gurdaspur? However, it is almost certain that a tepid response to Gurdaspur will invite more ambitious attacks on high-value targets within India.

Gurdaspur, however, is a target laden with significance. Historically, it animates a grudge that Pakistan has nursed since Partition: namely, that Muslim majority tehsils from Gurdaspur went to India in connivance with the British to facilitate India’s acquisition of Kashmir. Of course, Pakistanis conveniently omit that these areas were likely allocated to India because of their large Sikh population. Pakistanis also fail to acknowledge that Pathankot—with a Hindu majority—would have gone to India in any event. India only needed that tehsil to dispatch troops into Kashmir via ground. Pakistan’s versions of Partition animate military, militant and popular thinking about India.

Gurdaspur is also important because it harkens back to the bloody days of Sikh militancy that got ample support from Pakistan. There is reason to believe that it seeks to reopen Punjab as a theatre of terrorism beyond Kashmir. Pakistan is anxious to persuade militants to stop fighting Pakistanis and resume the fight in India and Afghanistan. It has rejuvenated Jaish-e-Mohammad in an effort to lure fellow Deobandis from the Pakistani Taliban and back to Jaish under whose auspices they can kill in India. India’s Punjab with its rampant drug problem creates numerous opportunities for militant-criminal-trafficking collusion. So far, Pakistan has used terrorism under its nuclear umbrella because it is cheap, effective, difficult to deter and ultimately successful in fanning the international chorus for “resolving the IndoPakistan problem”.

It would behoove India to tell its international backers bluntly that there is no “India-Pakistan problem;” only a Pakistan problem. It needs to develop a suite of policies that will impose significant and escalating costs upon Pakistan, diplomatically, politically and militarily. And India’s partners should support India in its application of power rather than continually excusing Pakistan’s behaviour. Pakistan is trying to ascertain whether this Indian government is all bluster and no follow-through. Failure to respond vigorously will surely encourage further Pakistani terrorist adventurism.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby Gagan » 03 Aug 2015 22:03

So Altaf bhai asked for UN NATO Indian intervention in Karachi?
He also read out some very sarcastic poetery making fun of the fauj.

Would luvv to hear that poetry, if someone can upload ...

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby Peregrine » 03 Aug 2015 22:24

chetak wrote:absolute lunatics. comes of deep in breeding and effing their squint eyed cousins.

LDUR??? even their surface railways don't work.

WTF are railway passengers going to do with access to the bay of bengal?? make paper boats??

India is going to keep quiet while the pakis are merrily digging away under Indian territory?? Just like we own the airspace, we also own the space underneath our land, no??

chetak Ji :

Please stop insulting absolute lunatics. comes of deep in breeding and effing their squint eyed cousins by comparing the Cwapistanis with them!

The "World's longest tunnel" will be between 1,250 and 1,500 Miles in length. How will they remove the "Excavations" as well as provide "Ventilation"?

Would request one of the B-RF Gurus to calculate the Excavations from the tunnel. It will be mind Boggling! :rotfl:

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Postby Peregrine » 03 Aug 2015 22:26

Gagan wrote:So Altaf bhai asked for UN NATO Indian intervention in Karachi?
He also read out some very sarcastic poetery making fun of the fauj.

Would luvv to hear that poetry, if someone can upload ...


Gagan Ji :

Altaf the Scoundrel regretted not being able to fight the "Indian Army" in 1971 or was it 1965!

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby Karan M » 03 Aug 2015 22:34

jrjrao wrote:
jash_p wrote:can anybody post Fair baby's latest on terrorist attack on Punjab ?


The link to that TOI blog post is not working, but I got this from my google cache:

Gurdaspur hit: India can’t afford a tepid response
August 2, 2015, 2:28 AM IST
C Christine Fair
From the moment it became apparent that Narendra Modi would become India’s Prime Minister, Pakistan has wondered how India would respond to its terrorist predations. Would it follow the path of the previous PM Manmohan Singh and tolerate Pakistan-based terrorism in hopes of avoiding any entanglement that would retard India’s economic ascent? Or, would it pursue a more hawkish policy? Earlier this week, Pakistan tested the waters when it dispatched three terrorists to Gurdaspur via the Ravi River. The attackers killed seven people, including a Punjab police SP, before being felled.

It’s not the first time Pakistan has sought to test the mettle of this government: in May 2014, before Modi had been sworn in, the Indian consulate in Herat, Afghanistan was attacked. Analysts believed the Herat attackers were either associated with Lashkar-e-Taiba, now operating as “Jamaat-ud-Dawa,” or the Haqqani network, both of which operate at the behest of Pakistan’s ISI. The next test came in March 2015 when two heavily armed militants raided a police station in J&K’s Kathua district — the first such attack after the PDP and BJP formed a coalition government in the state.

The Gurdaspur incident comes soon after Modi’s meeting with Pakistan’s Nawaz Sharif on the sidelines of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization meet in Ufa, Russia on July 10. For peaceniks, it heralded new portents for South Asian peace mongering. The mombatti-wallahs lauded the agreements, including a much-celebrated common definition of terrorism. This would be of little comfort to the victims of Gurdaspur who perished under this agreed-upon lexicon.

Such optimism was misplaced to begin with. One, even if Nawaz Sharif wants peace — a questionable assertion — he is not the Sharif that matters: Army chief Raheel Sharif is the one in charge. Pakistan’s army has no incentive to normalize relations with India; its pre-eminent hold upon the state is predicated upon an interminable civilizational war with “Hindu India”. Second, such meetings can be productive if there is some glimmer of common ground. Alas, there is little evidence of that. Pakistan wants to change the status quo through terrorism backed by nuclear proliferation while India wants to ratify the status quo and get on with the business of being a rising power.

The Gurdaspur attack should remove any doubt that Pakistan’s generals want peace with India. This attack is a clever move for several reasons. It is the first attack during the Modi government’s tenure that has taken place outside of J&K. Yet Gurdaspur, a middling city that will not capture public attention for long, does not have the provocation potential of an attack on Delhi or Mumbai. Would India risk war for Gurdaspur? However, it is almost certain that a tepid response to Gurdaspur will invite more ambitious attacks on high-value targets within India.

Gurdaspur, however, is a target laden with significance. Historically, it animates a grudge that Pakistan has nursed since Partition: namely, that Muslim majority tehsils from Gurdaspur went to India in connivance with the British to facilitate India’s acquisition of Kashmir. Of course, Pakistanis conveniently omit that these areas were likely allocated to India because of their large Sikh population. Pakistanis also fail to acknowledge that Pathankot—with a Hindu majority—would have gone to India in any event. India only needed that tehsil to dispatch troops into Kashmir via ground. Pakistan’s versions of Partition animate military, militant and popular thinking about India.

Gurdaspur is also important because it harkens back to the bloody days of Sikh militancy that got ample support from Pakistan. There is reason to believe that it seeks to reopen Punjab as a theatre of terrorism beyond Kashmir. Pakistan is anxious to persuade militants to stop fighting Pakistanis and resume the fight in India and Afghanistan. It has rejuvenated Jaish-e-Mohammad in an effort to lure fellow Deobandis from the Pakistani Taliban and back to Jaish under whose auspices they can kill in India. India’s Punjab with its rampant drug problem creates numerous opportunities for militant-criminal-trafficking collusion. So far, Pakistan has used terrorism under its nuclear umbrella because it is cheap, effective, difficult to deter and ultimately successful in fanning the international chorus for “resolving the IndoPakistan problem”.

It would behoove India to tell its international backers bluntly that there is no “India-Pakistan problem;” only a Pakistan problem. It needs to develop a suite of policies that will impose significant and escalating costs upon Pakistan, diplomatically, politically and militarily. And India’s partners should support India in its application of power rather than continually excusing Pakistan’s behaviour. Pakistan is trying to ascertain whether this Indian government is all bluster and no follow-through. Failure to respond vigorously will surely encourage further Pakistani terrorist adventurism.


For once I agree with the mohtarma.

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Postby Gagan » 03 Aug 2015 22:41

Me too

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby Gagan » 03 Aug 2015 22:44

The genesis of Altaf == RAA agint has also to do with him attending an India Today conclave like 4-5 yrs ago.
He had spoken in language that the Pak Fauj didn't particularly like.

His utterings these days are even more disconserting for the gaandmasters of aabpara

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby K Mehta » 03 Aug 2015 23:26

To SSji and other gurus,
The simple fact that the entire first family of lej was present at a single location with inadequate security points to the higher levels of deep state. The lone shia or group of shia theory does not hold water.

This news seems to have greater importance than the amount of discussion on the forum indicates.
Also the lack of coverage by Indian MSM is stark.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby abhijitm » 03 Aug 2015 23:34

chetak wrote:absolute lunatics. comes of deep in breeding and effing their squint eyed cousins.

LDUR??? even their surface railways don't work.

Paki dig deep deep in lahore

Paki dig some more


And more...


Paki reach centre of the earth
Paki dig up up
Paki reach dhaka
Paki get new mountain of debris
Great success

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Postby Gagan » 04 Aug 2015 00:03


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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby Skanda » 04 Aug 2015 01:50

Mumbai attacks trial

The following facts are pertinent. First, Ajmal Kasab was a Pakistani national, whose place of residence and initial schooling as well as his joining a banned militant organisation was established by the investigators. Second, the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) terrorists were imparted training near Thatta, Sindh and launched by sea from there. The training camp was identified and secured by the investigators. The casings of the explosive devices used in Mumbai were recovered from this training camp and duly matched. Third, the fishing trawler used by the terrorists for hijacking an Indian trawler in which they sailed to Mumbai, was brought back to harbour, then painted and concealed. It was recovered by the investigators and connected to the accused. Fourth, the engine of the dinghy abandoned by the terrorists near Mumbai harbour contained a patent number through which the investigators traced its import from Japan to Lahore and then to a Karachi sports shop from where an LeT-linked militant purchased it along with the dinghy. The money trail was followed and linked to the accused who was arrested. Fifth, the ops room in Karachi, from where the operation was directed, was also identified and secured by the investigators. The communications through Voice over Internet Protocol were unearthed. Sixth, the alleged commander and his deputies were identified and arrested. Seventh, a couple of foreign-based financiers and facilitators were arrested and brought to face trial.


Indian interlocutors, engaged during the talks between the then prime ministers of India and Pakistan in Egypt in 2009, had conceded that the Pakistani investigators had done a professional job in the indictment of seven perpetrators of the attack :?: . However, the Pakistani authorities should not forget that the FIA declared various other facilitators and operatives as fugitives in the case. The trial will not be over with the disposal of those under arrest or on bail. Other missing links need to be uncovered after the absconders’ arrest.


Rest of the article is the usual equal-equal. Both India and Pak have got skeletons in cupboard. Yada Yada.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby abhijitm » 04 Aug 2015 02:20

Water kit is back again! This time with new water-kit guy :rotfl: :rotfl:



I saw an interview of a man who drove a bike run on water. 80% on water and 20% on petrol. uske baad muze bhi shauk hua paani pe bike chalaneka :lol: My bike now runs 80 km on 1 ltr. The mileage will keep on increasing :rotfl:

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby RamaY » 04 Aug 2015 04:38

schinnas wrote:
RamaY wrote: Are the various Islamic Invaders into Indian sub-continent are true representatives of Islam? If the answer is Yes, then we must accept that genociders like Khilzi, Ghazni, Ghouri, Babar, Akbar, Tuglaq represent Islam thus making Islam inherently genocidal & colonial.

If the answer is no, then 99% of Muslims are forced into Islam in a wrong way and hence wrong Muslims. This wrong Islam should leave Indian sub-continent first so real Islam can interact and enter Indian sub-continent thru peace and love.

Don't remember how that debate ended.


The spread of Islam in India is not all due to violence. Many converted voluntarily inspired by genuine Islamic mystics and Sufi saints. Many areas that never had Islamic rule in India, for example, parts of western and southern TN has sizable muslim population that converted out of their own free will due to true islamic gnanis. To totally deny their existence is to believe in pretend history. These saints did practice a very mystical form of Islam that was non fanatical and were often prosecuted by fanatic muslim rules. You might have heard the story of Mansoor Al Hallaj shouting Anal-haq (I am That / Truth) in meditative ecstacy and killed because of that "blashphemy". Anal-Haq is almost the same as Aham Brahmashmi or Tat-Tvam-Asi. The mystical, experience based religion of these fakirs resonated with Indians long used to following Enlightented Siddhas and Sanyasi's with their own unique paths.
It is a tragedy that Sufi path also had its own share of fanatics and in the end lost its true mysticism. I do no think that some suggestions made in the forum quoting one or two Sufi fanatics to paint whole of sufism as fanatical is correct.

An unbiased, fact based research is needed to understand how many Indians became muslims through violence, vs through peaceful means. How nearly all of them became fanatics and slowly abandoned the culture and tradition of their ancestors is another wonder. Understanding these two critical areas without superficial condemnation or conclusions would be necessary to find peaceful and long term solution to resolving fanaticism of sub continental muslims.


Schinnas-Mia,

A passionate argument indeed. We mustn't seek facts, logic & philosophical soundness from such passionate & Islamic arguments. But please allow this kafir to deliberate...

1/ Looks like your madrassa text books aren't updated. Allah rules whole earth and Muslim invaders reached all corners of Bharat, even if they didn't maintain a wide enough corridor of destruction connecting to their core. Please read about Madurai (none other than your South TN :D ) (south-east corner of Bharat), Mysore (South-West region), Kampili (mid-west region) Islamic kingdoms and be at peace that Islamic destruction reached entire Bharat. Also please search for the glorified court accounts of Tipu Sultan to understand that even in down south Islam was spread thru pillage, rape, terror only as done elsewhere. Also please don't forget about the mayhem created when Islamic hordes defeated Kakatiya and Vijayanagara empire. To sooth your worries, please read about Nizam kingdom and its extent. So please be assured that majority of Muslims in south India are converted by coercion and rape and not by pussyfooting Sufis.

2/ I don't know which S.TN you are talking about but I hope you are referring to the same S.TN that is currently getting enlightened by Christian gnanis and saints. These saints are also following the same pedophilic forms of spirituality as Sufis followed. When the priests Phillus is deep in side the seeker, I am sure the felling can't be anything better than Anal-Haq.

3/ I am afraid, you are committing blasphemy by equating Anal-Haq with the Pranav-Haq that Hindus usually practice. Anyways, the real question is when Mansoor-Al-Hallaj proclaimed Anal-Haq in ecstasy, what was "that" he was referring to? Allah or Muhammed? I am afraid he might have experienced a Jesus moment.

4/ Even if we accept that Mansoor-Al-Hallaj did experience "SoHam" for argument sake, it can't be Islamic. No wonder the true Muslims promptly beheaded him for committing blasphemy. So a Sufi who experienced Anal-Haq can't be a Muslim per Islam itself.

5/ Now if a Hindu follows/worships a Sufi who experienced Anal-Haq, which makes the Sufi an apostate, how can you claim that the Hindu converted to Islam? If the Sufi himself isn't a Muslim then how can his followers be? By experiencing Anal-Haq the Sufi became a Hindu instead of his followers becoming Muslim.

6/ I am glad that you confirmed that not all Sufis experienced Anal-Haq (they would have been beheaded like Masoor-Al-Hallij if they did) and were genocidal like normal Muslims. So not all Hindus who followed Sufis are peaceful converts as you claim.

7/ I will agree with your logic that there were some villages which converted to Islam before the massacres began, like Mecca did. As happened in Mecca, these villages too converted to Islam to avert the massacres that Islam is famous for. I don't think we can call these conversions peaceful even by our secular standards.

72/ However I do agree with you that there must be few Hindus who converted to Islam on their own will and wish. I am more than happy that they will remain Muslim forever. The proposal of that Secular Indian seem to be that only those Hindus who were forcibly converted to Islam must return to Hinduism. I am sure you would agree that it would be about 80% of current Muslims (I am following 80-20 rule here).

Don't you think it's only fair for those 80% Hindus-under-Islamic-Slavery are given freedom finally?

The outcome of such a freedom movement would be that Pakistan (the homeland for sub-continental Muslims) would be limited to NWFP area, proportional to their number.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby SSridhar » 04 Aug 2015 04:58

A fair question that crops up in inquiring minds is why hasn't the Pakistani National Assembly and the four provincial assemblies yet offered fateha for Mullah Omar. They offered one for Zarqawi!

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby Gagan » 04 Aug 2015 06:02

Maybe it has to be 400% confirmed by the establishment

Or

The establishment has given directions that Fateha at this moment is a no-no given the infighting that has already begun. Reminds one of the infighting when the profet muhammad passed away and a shia subsect was formed - AOA

Maybe mullah omar should have done more sawab during his lifetime to earn a fateha in Al Baajisataan's assembly. Maybe he didn't loot, pillage, murder enough...
Clearly lacking in his sawab count one can see...

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby shiv » 04 Aug 2015 06:07

Let me ask a rhetorical question but I ask in all seriousness:

If "ISIS" represents an "Islamic state" what is Pakistan? Is Pakistan not an Islamic state. In other words is Pakistan's jihad against Hindu India a false accusation we make and that Pakistanis disagreement with India is a secular issue of territory and freedom and Hindu hatred of the Muslim?

It is admirable the way the US and the west control the narrative and language we use. We have been facing ISIS like treatment from Pakistan for over six decades abut not once have we managed to call a spade a spade and declare Pakistan an "Islamic state" as it should be. And many Indians now dhoti shiver imagining that ISIS is different or worse than Pakistan.

Indian attitudes actually assume Hindu guilt. Hindus are guilty of hating the Muslim and hence Pakistan is angry. Muslims can have extremists - but that is ISIS or Taliban) , not Pakistan. This is the Pakistani and western narrative that I believe many of us subconsciously subscribe to and propagate

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby Falijee » 04 Aug 2015 06:39

Bad Sharif Attends Chinese Embassy Military Reception And Announces That China's Enemy Is Pakistan's Enemy And We Will Defeat Rivals Jointly

ISLAMABAD: The Chief of the Army Staff (COAS), General Raheel Sharif, on Friday said that “China’s enemy is Pakistan’s enemy and we will defeat rivals jointly”.

He said this on Friday evening in a grand reception hosted by the Chinese Embassy’s Armed Forces attaché Major General Qi Huajun to commemorate the 88th anniversary of the foundation of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) here at a local hotel. The army chief was the chief guest.

General Raheel said: “Your enemy is our enemy. Eliminating the East Turkistan Independence Movement is its manifestation.[*] Our cooperation for regional stability will squeeze space for states and non-state actors for stable Afghanistan.”

[*] But are these not members of the Ummah Brotherhood :eek:

The normal security arrangements were in place. The army chief was received by Chinese Ambassador to Pakistan Sun Weidong amid thunderous applause. General Raheel Sharif and his wife [*]were received by the Chinese diplomats and armed forces officers and their spouses


[*] Purdah-less :shock:

The national anthems of the two countries were played on the arrival of the army chief. As a gesture of special affection, :roll: national anthem of the host country was played first. It was followed by the cake cutting ceremony[*] and the cake was cut with the army sword jointly by the officers in uniform and the Chinese ambassador.


[*] Hope that the cake was prepared in a halal kitchen using Sharia Compliant ingredients , approved in advance by the Ministry Of Science And Technology and ensuring that no lard or other polk ingredients were used therein :D

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby Prem » 04 Aug 2015 06:41

Afghan Taliban dismiss reports of Mullah Omar's son's murder in Pakistan

To Kill And Get Killed

ISLAMABAD: Afghan Taliban rejected on Monday claims by a senior Afghan official that Mullah Omar’s son was killed in an attack in Pakistan.Earlier, Afghanistan’s first deputy speaker of the national assembly Zahir Qadir claimed Mullah Omar’s son, Mullah Yaqub, was killed in Quetta last week.“There is no truth in the claim. Yaqoob is alive and I am in contact with him,” Mutasim told The Express Tribune.Another Taliban official, Dr Aminul Haq, said he contacted Yaqoob two days ago and Afghan officials were issuing baseless statements to create a misunderstanding within the group.
The deputy speaker of the Afghan national assembly quoted unnamed “credible sources” as saying that Mullah Yaqub, who had hoped to succeed his father as leader of the Afghan Taliban, was killed by supporters of the new Taliban chief Akhtar Mansoor four days ago while he was attending a meeting.
Zahir Qadir told Tolo TV in Kabul that Mullah Yaqub, who was around 21-years-old, was trying to be appointed as his father’s successor.“But Mullah Mansoor tried to become leader of the Taliban.”Meanwhile, Afghan Taliban spokesperson Qari Yousaf Ahmadi denied claims by unnamed officials that gunmen had attacked a Taliban convoy in Balochistan’s town of Chaman and Kuchlak.
“We contacted Pakistani officials who deal with refugees, other sources and locals but all categorically rejected these claims, saying no such incident happened in Balochistan,” Ahmadi said in a statement late on Monday.“Based on the information, we reject the claim as the enemy wants to create concerns among the people,” the spokesperson added.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby Vayutuvan » 04 Aug 2015 08:33

shiv wrote:Let me ask a rhetorical question but I ask in all seriousness:


I think the real problem is that "they are like us" "we are long lost brothers" are instilled in Indian minds for over three generations now. At some level when Indians go to Pakistan as tourists and get impressed by the warm welcome they receive. Of course, any tour operator or restaurant owner or travel agent would want to sell their product which is their country by trying to find something nice to say to the tourist.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby shiv » 04 Aug 2015 09:48

vayu tuvan wrote:
shiv wrote:Let me ask a rhetorical question but I ask in all seriousness:


I think the real problem is that "they are like us" "we are long lost brothers" are instilled in Indian minds for over three generations now. At some level when Indians go to Pakistan as tourists and get impressed by the warm welcome they receive. Of course, any tour operator or restaurant owner or travel agent would want to sell their product which is their country by trying to find something nice to say to the tourist.

I think Fair Didi called this "selection bias" where visitors and diplomats are selectively exposed to Pakistanis who will please them and hidden from the overall thrust and direction of Pakistani sentiment towards Hindu India

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

Postby Inder Sharma » 04 Aug 2015 10:04

This selection bais was well highlighted in a India Today TV debate years ago.

Shushant Sareen had said that the hatred of Hindus is deeply ingrained amongst Pakis, including their liberals. So much so that even Rahat Fateh Ali Khan, for all his welcome and Indian money and indian celebration of his talent, he still says in Pakistan that at end of days Indians are at the end - Kaffirs.

To this, Vinod Sharma of HT, a well known Tracktuia says that(and I am paraphrasing), ‘I don’t know why Sushant is chafed and why he is trying to spoil the relationship and track two process. He(Sushant) has been with him(V. Sharma) to Pakistan and has received the best hospitality”.

Moron implied that a hotel stay in Lahore with phoonk kaam with sipahi abdul was good enough to over look pakistaniat.


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