Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Sept 05, 2015

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Neela wrote:
arun wrote:German Government controlled broadcaster Deutsche Welle (DW) carries an article with the blurb, “Pakistan-India relations remain fraught. But India should be looking at extremism at home rather than worrying about its neighbor, according to well-known Pakistani columnist Nadeem F. Paracha.” :

India's strange preoccupation with Pakistan

I hope the current Govt calls up the German Ambassador and
- asks him and his country to stick to fixing their emissions standards at home rather than worry about issues in India.
- tells him that organisations like PEGIDA have no place in the modern world.
- tells his that Germany's continued inability to rein in violent RW extremism, coupled with its inability to check RW elements from entering police and military orgs some 70 years after the war is a serious concern.
- tells him that with instances of attacks against Indian students on the rise, Germany would do well to sticking their resources to fixing law and order situation at home.

These felllows - you give them an inch and they will try to take a mediator's role uninvited.. Wast it German Ambassador who organized some concert in Kashmir and wanted to come off shining like the white Jesus between Rabin and Arafat.
Morons still think they have figured everything out.
The GoI must act now and basically ask them to STFU and p1ss off.
Chill biradar. In the near future Germany will have to give citizenship to Anders Breivik and make him chancellor to deal with the terrorist problem. The way pissful people are flooding Germany every Friday is going to be a riot. :mrgreen:
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Karan M wrote:>>Further our High Commission in the Islamic Republic should be reminded to exercise greater caution in granting visa’s to prevent Non-State Propagandist arm of the Islamic Republic’s Deep State doing propaganda in India.

Well said.More INC termites one wonders.
This is due to the SAARC treaties under which we are obliged to give visas for cultural activities. Watching Sarfarosh this cultural activities thing takes on a whole new meaning.
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A_Gupta wrote:
Anindya wrote:The level of understanding of data about Pakistan is quite appalling amongst our educated chatteratti...

Peace call goes viral: ‘I am an Indian & I don’t hate Pakistan’
Can someone here put up a tasteful, "I am an Indian. I am all for peace but I cannot express my opinion because I was killed by a Pakistan-sponsored terrorist. #BoycottPakistan"

Or something like that.

"I am an Indian. I would have loved to join the peace effort, but a Pakistani mortar shell took my life. #BoycottPakistan".

And so on.
On that lines how about "I am an Indian but Pakistaniyat killed me. - Sohel Abdul Sheikh #BoycottPakistan"

Iterate through all the names of people killed during bakistani attack on mumbai.

The names can be found here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualtie ... the_attack
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Pakistan Hand Suspected In Desecration Of Guru Granth Sahib In Punjab
Christian and Islamic Conspiracy to desecrate Guru Granth Sahib in Punjab to blame Hindus.
Big Evangelic Crime busted in Punjab to desecrate “Guru Granth Sahib” to create sporadic communal tension for Hindu-Sikh divide. The mastermind of this sacrilege detected in Dubai and Australia. Pakistani provocation revealed.
HENB | Chandigarh | Oct 21, 2015:: The Punjab police have arrested two baptised Sikh brothers for the alleged desecration of the Guru Granth Sahib at Faridkot’s Bargari village. These converted Christians in the name of Sikh names are believed to have committed the crime of sacrilege at the behest of a “foreign hand”.
In the meanwhile, Intelligence Agencies warned the both Central and the State Govt regarding ISI conspiracy to create bigger trouble in Punjab.
Sahota hinted at some radical Sikh groups settled outside India as being behind the desecrations and saw it as an attempt to disturb the peace in Punjab. He said that he suspected a “foreign hand” in the act of hurting religious sentiments but refused to clarify who he was pointing to. This has an aim to divide the Hindu-Sikh unity and harmony in Punjab. According to ADGP, crime and security, the crime was committed for money as well as to create unrest in Punjab.
Under the heading of “Sikh protesters chant pro-Pakistan slogans in IoK“, The Nation Newspaper of Pakistan started spitting hatred upon Hindus by stating the incident as “the desecration of the Guru Granth Sahib by Hindu fanatics in Punjab“. Without any investigation the Pak media started stamping the Hindus as criminal for Holy Guru Granth Sahib desecration. These propagators of Hindu-Sikh division and champions of Yellow journalism do not know that the Holy Guru Granth Sahib is equally respected by both hindus and Sikhs.
Highlighting such slogans like “Kashmir Banega Pakistan, Punjab Banega Khalsa”, a Pakistani connection can be ascertained behind this sacrilege by resurrecting the bogey of Pro Pakistan Bhindranwale and Babbar Khalsa.
They need to resurrect tensions to draw attention away from their atrocities in Balochistan and POK and potray and == situation between the two nations :mrgreen:
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Pakistan govt should talk to India for resumption of bilateral cricket: BCCI secretary
BCCI secretary Anurag Thakur has said that the government of Pakistan should talk to its Indian counterpart to make way for resumption of bilateral cricket between the two countries.
Thakur termed the current atmosphere ‘not conductive’ for cricket between the two countries.
"The atmosphere right now is not conducive for cricket to be played between the two countries. Pakistan government should talk to Indian government first. That will be a great help for building a conducive atmosphere," said Thakur on the sidelines of a cricket match between Parliamentarians and Celebrities. :mrgreen:
Anurag Thakur said talks between governments could ease out the tension and make cricket talks an easier job.
"And then you don't require so much effort for talks to happen between the two cricketing boards," said Thakur.
Earlier on Saturday, PCB chief Shaharyar Khan made it clear that the current security situation in India, especially for Pakistanis, is not satisfactory. He said it is possible that the government disallows Pakistan from participating in the World T20 to be held in India next year.
“We will have to take advice from the Pakistan government and I think the government will say don't go in the event. :mrgreen:
Khan said that if such a situation arose then Pakistan would be ready to forfeit matches in the World Twenty20, organised under the International Cricket Council (ICC).
So, Pakis and their cricket board are scrambling to figure out , how to make up the shortfall in their budget revenues :mrgreen:
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Avinash R wrote:
Karan M wrote:>>Further our High Commission in the Islamic Republic should be reminded to exercise greater caution in granting visa’s to prevent Non-State Propagandist arm of the Islamic Republic’s Deep State doing propaganda in India.

Well said.More INC termites one wonders.
This is due to the SAARC treaties under which we are obliged to give visas for cultural activities. Watching Sarfarosh this cultural activities thing takes on a whole new meaning.
But can't we pick and choose which cultural activities? Looks like the Indian High commission is just stamping away w/o common sense.
Whats truly ironic is watching Naseer..Shah show his inner Pakistaniyat in recent days.
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Drip, drip, drip of violence perpetrated by Pakistan against Indian civilians continues

Two villagers injured as Pakistan targets nearly 30 border outposts in J&K
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CIA CHIEF’S EMAILS EXPOSE PAKISTAN’S TERROR TACTICS IN INDIA
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Monday, 26 October 2015 | J Gopikrishnan | New Delhi

The Wikileaks’ latest exposé on CIA Director John Brennan’s private emails reveals the role of Pakistan’s use of militant proxies for creating terror in India. The tranche of emails leaked by unidentified hackers also shows the Intelligence agency urging the US Government to refrain from antagonising Pakistan as regards its role in Afghanistan, especially its ties with the Taliban, to counter growing Indian influence there. It suggests that the US President should appoint a “Special Coordinator” to look for ways “to alleviate Pakistan’s concerns about India’s influence in Afghanistan”.

Among the volley of emails, the India-specific portions related to the period of 2008. The details of the November 7, 2008 report (just three weeks before the 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks) to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence reveal the cautious treading of the US with both India and Pakistan while keeping Islamabad in a good mood for success of its Af-Pak operations. It also talks about the negativity of certain officers in Pakistan military and Intelligence services.

“Efforts in the Federal Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) have been challenged by Pakistan’s ambivalence toward, and perhaps outright support for, the Taliban. While the US Intelligence Community differs on the extent of the relationships, at least some elements of Pakistan’s military and three Intelligence services appear to be ambivalent about the anti-Taliban and anti-militant mission in the FATA, in part due to their history of close ties to the Taliban in Afghanistan’s conflict with the Soviet Union and Pakistan’s use of militant proxies in its conflict with India,” said the report submitted by Louis Tucker to Vice-Chairman Bond of Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

The leaked e-mails of the CIA chief show that the US could not antagonise Pakistan’s move to have working relations with Taliban as this relationship is desired by Islamabad to counter Indian and Iranian interests in the Af-Pak region.

“Pakistan’s desire to counter India’s growing influence in Afghanistan and concerns about US long-term commitments to Afghanistan increase Pakistan’s interest in hedging its bets by ensuring that it will be able to have a working relationship with the Taliban to balance Indian and Iranian interests if the United States withdraws,” said the leaked report.

The Wikileaks exposé shows that the CIA and FBI team members frequently visited India, Pakistan and Afghanistan during this period. “Five of us traveled to India, Afghanistan and Pakistan from October 6 2015 to hear perspectives of operators and commanders on the ground and to discuss with them our working hypotheses. Due to time and security constraints we were limited in travel to New Dehli, Kabul, Mazar i Sharif, Herat, Kandahar, Orgun, Khowst, Asadabad, a location near Barikowt, and Islamabad,” said the report detailing the operations of CIA and other US agencies in the region.

The report also talks about ways to curb the opium cultivation originating from Afghanistan and its money trail to terror and mafia-related activities in the region leading to India and Thailand. The report suggests promoting other cultivations like pomegranates. It says as India is a potential user of pomegranates there are abundant prospects for its cultivation in Afghanistan.

“For example, pomegranate trees are highly coveted in Afghanistan and there is a market for them in Afghanistan and overseas. Afghanistan exported 50,000 tons of pomegranates to India last year, yet the Indian market could absorb one million tons. Despite this promising opportunity, the agriculture representative noted that an investment in tree crops is an investment in the future, which most Afghans cannot afford, especially if they are concerned that the Taliban will continue to grow in strength and will burn down their investment,” said the report from the leaked emails of CIA Chief.

The report also talks about the “conundrum in Iran” and ways to tackle it while maintaining the interests of the US Government. The controversies and CIA’s versions on the torture in its secret cells and CIA’s legal issues with the Analysis Corporation were also part of the leaked email tranche. The hackers had also leaked the Address Book of CIA chief’s private email ID and internal reports on staffing and purchase details. On Sunday certain hawkers through their hidden IDs from UK claimed in social media responsibility for leaking the private emails of the CIA chief.
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TRACKING PAKISTAN'S POLITICAL TRAJECTORY
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Sunday, 25 October 2015 | RAJESH SINGH | in Agenda

Author Christophe Jaffrelot identifies the feudal nature of Pakistani politics as one of the primary causes of the failure of democracy. It
began as the process of consolidation in the 1950s, and the aftershocks continue to be felt to this date. Whether it was military rule or the odd civilian one, feudalism retained its primacy, writes RAJESH SINGH

The history of Pakistan begins with India, and each one of that country’s policies, whether domestic, foreign or military, has remained India-centric. This has been convenient for political leaders and military despots who could mask their failures in making Pakistan a functional state by routinely ramping up anti-India sentiments rooted more in the past than in the present or consideration for the future.
The Indian demon has thus been sought to be exorcised often, but never with the real intention to drive away the evil spirit. Pakistan’s leadership and its intelligentsia need to keep alive that demon, never mind if the target looks or acts nothing like the demon they like to imagine.

But the obsession with India is only one part of the Pakistan problem. In fact, it is not even a problem, but the manifestation of a problem. The problem is that Pakistan is a heap of paradoxes, and it has been unable to sort that out. It’s out of this confusion that we get to see actions and reactions which are inexplicable to rational thinking.

Pakistan is in a state of mind where it cannot think straight or sensible. It charges at windmills, bellows at allies, snarls at well-meaning advice and strikes to hurt others but bleeds more in return. The tragedy is that it learns nothing in the process or at best learns all the wrong lessons. Therefore, it is doomed to repeat the terrible consequences that befall it.

Even supposedly sensible Pakistani leaders have fallen into the trap. Benazir Bhutto did, and Nawaz Sharif has been doing over and over again. His latest performance at the United Nations General Assembly strengthens the belief that Pakistan will never learn. Like Benazir was, he too is terrified to take on the might of the Army and the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI). He has been deposed once and is now content to be the Army’s rubber stamp — an Army that patronises and promotes anti-India militancy, whether through irregulars or the uniformed.

The aggression has taken a toll on Pakistan’s economic growth and credibility among the global community. This has come at a time when India has been progressing steadily and often with quantum jumps, building new partnerships and strengthening old ones, and crafting a high degree of acceptability as a responsible nuclear power and a vibrant democratic country. India is being sought after by the rest of world while Pakistan is treated with wariness at best and deep distrust at worst.

What are the paradoxes that Pakistan is unable or unwilling to escape from? Are they self-generated or legacies of history? How is it that despite all this, Pakistan remains in existence as a nation, even if with a big question mark on its credibility? Is there a silver lining in the dark clouds?

These and other questions have sought to be answered by Christophe Jaffrelot in his book, The Pakistan Paradox: Instability and Resilience. The author can claim to have written perhaps the most exhaustive book on modern Pakistan; it is a tome with 647 pages, not counting the glossary etc. Interestingly, while Jaffrelot deals with a range of issues, from an overarching Islamist ideology to military dictatorship to democracy to the battle for supremacy among ‘majority Muslims’ and ‘minority Muslims’ to the innumerable contradictions that have become a way of life in Pakistan, even he couldn’t escape the inescapable: The Indian influence.

His introductory chapter begins with references to India and the book ends with the following words: “…good Islamists, including the LeT, still have a strong presence in the public sphere”. The introduction quoted Mohammad Waseem’s Politics and the State in Pakistan: “The new nation was thus born with an image of India as a villain, a satan, and a monster next door, out to devour the newborn state.”

These troublesome though largely unsubstantiated misgivings became the foundation for Pakistan’s thought process, which got more rigid as it evolved over the decades since 1947. It also led to perhaps among the first major paradoxes: Democracy alongside over-concentration of powers in an individual.

Jaffrelot says that Pakistan’s founder MA Jinnah was a “democrat”, but he also “introduced a strong personalisation of power that Pakistan has never managed to shed. Jinnah not only held the position of governor general, but was also president of the Constituent Assembly… The central cabinet was even more docile than the Working Committee of the AIML (All India Muslim League) had formerly been… Jinnah’s viceregal style put a lasting strain on the democracy to which he claimed to aspire”.

As the author notes, Jinnah’s death provided an occasion to the civilian leadership to course-correct and establish a truly democratic system. But led by Liaquat Ali Khan, the political leadership failed to seize the occasion. Things in fact turned for the worse, as soon thereafter, military Generals took over the reins of office, pushing aside even the democracy that survived merely in name.

The personalisation of power was complete under Ayub Khan and later in the Yahya Khan and Zia ul-Haque dispensation. Ironically, even during the brief term of a civilian leader, ZA Bhutto, centralisation of power was at its peak, partly leading to his downfall.

The situation thereafter has been no different; the only difference being that the de jure leader of the Pakistani Government has been often subordinate to the Army, which controls the state as completely as Jinnah did. On the rare occasion when an elected leader desired to spread his wings, the Army ousted him with such ease that one was left with the impression that democracy wasn’t something that Pakistanis were really passionate about.

The other paradox to hit Pakistan early on in its existence had to do with managing the conflict of simultaneously being an Islamist state and a democratic one too. It links up with the earlier stated theory that Pakistanis do not really care much for genuine democracy.

Jinnah had grand visions of the two being complementary to each other. The author points out that Jinnah had told a meeting of the Muslim League that Pakistan’s Constitution would be a “democratic type embodying the essential principles of Islam”. It should have been clear then and there that this was not possible. A nation that commits itself to a Constitution which rests on principles of a religion cannot possibly be inclusive enough for various religious denominations. As a result, it could not be truly democratic.

Over the years, the fault lines have accentuated, and not just between Muslims and non-Muslims but also between different sects of Muslims. The ‘essential principles of Islam’ got somehow connected with the Urdu language, and as a result, the Bengali-speaking Muslims in what was then the eastern part Pakistan got discriminated against.

That chapter ended with the division of Pakistan and the creation of Bangladesh, in which India very happily played a part. But even Urdu hasn’t come to the Mohajirs’ rescue; the community continues to be discriminated against in Pakistan. Neither Islamic rule nor democracy in its true spirit has succeeded.

Jinnah, more than anyone else, is responsible for the crisis of identity that Pakistan finds itself facing. Perhaps it is this crisis that has persuaded it to be at loggerheads with India, because being anti-India (and by its convoluted logic, anti-Hindu) at least provides Pakistan a sense of definition.

The author identifies the “feudal nature of Pakistani politics” as one of the primary causes of the failure of democracy. It began as the process of consolidation in the 1950s, and the aftershocks continue to be felt to this date. In fact, whether it was military rule or the odd civilian one, feudalism retained its primacy.

Jaffrelot is, however, being too generous to Jinnah when he says that “if eleven years after Partition, the country’s efforts to establish a democratic regime failed, it is probably because the democratic ideals of Jinnah and his followers were subordinated to the security imperative spawned by the fear of India”.

There are many problems with this argument. In the first place, there is the author’s own paradox: Having earlier noted the over-centralisation of authority and the personalisation which Jinnah promoted and which harmed the growth of democracy, how can he then turn around and talk of the “democratic ideals of Jinnah”? The author’s belief that the fear of India may have subordinated Jinnah’s dream of democracy is not on firm ground. The fear of India was an imagined one, and imagined precisely to ensure that Jinnah and leaders after him could justify their authoritarian ways.

Moreover, the security imperative for India too has been there since Independence (vis-à-vis both Pakistan and China). That did not lead to dictatorships or military rules in New Delhi. But Jaffrelot is right in observing that often the abject failure of civilian leaders to govern and their being at loggerheads most of the time without realising the damage they were doing to the democratic fabric or at least what existed of it was creating the perfect environment for the khaki to seize power.

Since the civilians and the Generals failed Pakistan on repeated occasions, there arose a desperate requirement for ‘other forces’ to undo the damage. The author notes, “The convergence of political and military circles, to the point of forming an establishment sharing numerous legal and illegal interests, makes the need for assertive opposition forces outside these spheres all the more pressing.”

One of the rays of hope the “resilience”, which Jaffrelot refers to as part of his book’s name was the judiciary. The past tense is be noted because, as the author points out, even the judiciary, after showing sparks that illuminated the clouds over Pakistan’s democracy, fizzled out.

The author traces the meteoric rise in public esteem of Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry, to the extent that he became, in Jaffrelot’s words, “one of the most powerful men in Pakistan”. After he arrived in the Supreme Court, Justice Chaudhry began asking Pervez Musharraf regime uncomfortable questions about the mysterious disappearance of Baloch activists. Not used to being interrogated, General Musharraf asked the judge to quit.

By now, Justice Chaudhry had an inkling of a big confrontation brewing. He refused to oblige and Gen Musharraf sacked him. A new judge, hand-picked by the Government took charge, and the regime considered it the end of the story. After all, that’s how it had always been.

But then, out of the blue, lawyers in large numbers, beginning from the apex court and then all the way down, rallied around the sacked judge. Bar associations across the country erupted in massive protests, and sundry other organisations and individuals extended their support. Opposition leaders such as Asif Ali Zardari quickly extended support and promised his re-instatement as Chief Justice if they came to power. After General Musharraf’s exit, that promise never was fully kept.

But something else happened along the way, and that was where yet another of the many paradoxes the author has written about made its entry. The feisty judge, who took the new establishment as well and sought to rid the nation of political corruption, began to be seen to be leaning towards fundamentalists and Islamists. Jaffrelot writes about the reservations that commentators in Pakistan had begun to voice about the judge, “One of the reasons... has to do with his relations with certain figures from Islamist circles, relations that were formed around the issue of the disappeared.” From there on, Justice Chaudhry began losing credibility.

The democratic spirit of the lawyers’ community, which had spearheaded the pro-Chaudhry and anti-Musharraf movement, too seemed to crumble over time. The big moment of shame was when they showered flower petals on the assassin of Punjab Governor Salman Taseer when he appeared in court in connection with the killing. The liberal instincts of the lawyers, so much at display in their support to Justice Chaudhry, seemed to have dried out when it came to support of Taseer, who had raised his voice against a blasphemy law.

This leaves us with the only other ‘independent’ pillar of democracy in Pakistan the media. Jaffrelot has much to say here as well, and there are paradoxes here too. But it must be admitted that sections of the media in that country have remained courageous enough to run stories that have been deeply embarrassing to both the civilian rulers and the Generals. Some have paid the price for being intrepid.

As the author points out, “Not only are hundreds of websites blocked when they criticise the Army, but journalists are assaulted, even murdered, when they do the same.” He offers the example of journalist Umar Cheema who was brutally tortured for writing on corruption in the Army, and of another journalist Saleem Shahzad, who wrote about the infiltration of Al Qaeda in Pakistan Army, as well as the terrorist group’s role in an attack on a military base in May 2011.

In totality, sections of the media there have demonstrated more spine than the rest of society to promote transparency and democracy, though it is also a fact that quite a number of media houses have connections with one political group or the other and sometimes perhaps with militant organisations as well.

Jaffrelot tries hard to be sympathetic to the Pakistani dilemma, but is simply unable to wish away the hard realities. He believes that the “fear of India is not merely a pretence” (though he doesn’t offer too many convincing reasons to back his claim), but cannot run away from the fact that the “collusion and transactions between the civilians and the military” has primarily stunted the growth of democracy into a full-fledged tree, and that the collusions continue to go on “whereas mass poverty remains the rule”.

The author ends with a sort of footnote post-conclusion: ‘After 16 December 2014: What “Post-Peshawar” Pakistan?’ In this end lies another shot at hope; hope that Pakistan will change after the brutal mass killing of innocent schoolchildren on that fateful day.

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif had then announced, “The Peshawar atrocity has changed Pakistan.” From India’s perspective, it hasn’t. Perhaps, after many more paradoxes later, that change may come. Or, it just may not. Because, the resilience in Pakistani society and sane political leadership, which Jaffrelot speaks about, is not in most cases where it should be, but where it definitely ought not to be. That’s where the problem lies.
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DEAF-MUTE GEETA LANDS IN DELHI FROM PAKISTAN
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7.7 magnitude earthquake hits northern Pakistan.
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Image from Hunza. Will have to say what happened to the famed KKH.

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Sheikh Rasheed meets Qadri in Canada
Canadian Winter is fast approaching and the Qadri needs an "invitation" from a (corrupt/gluttonous ) Paki Politico to migrate for the season, (like the famous Canada Geese) in one of the decrepit aeroplanes of the National Airlines to La-Whore and do a repeat of Dharna - number 1. :mrgreen:
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SShridhar:
7.7 magnitude earthquake hits northern Pakistan.

Now bagging bawl out!!!
World must give $100 billion as Pakis are fighting terrorist and this earthquake created by YYY destroyed infrastructure and need to rebuilt. Needs more F-16, submarine to fight terrorist.
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The India Brand - Op Ed in Dawn
THE recent opening night of ‘Fabric of India’, a new exhibition at London’s Victoria and Albert Museum, was a glittering affair. Londoners adorned in their finest pashminas, saris, and Nehru jackets sipped on cocktails and gushed about their last trips to Delhi and Mumbai, the latest crazes in Indian boutiques, the quirks of their favourite tailor near Connaught Place.

The exhibition is part of the V&A’s ongoing India Festival, a series of exhibitions and events on South Asian culture marking the 25th anniversary of the opening of the museum’s Nehru Gallery. It is a wonderful show, drawing out the 6,000-year-old history of handmade textiles in South Asia {Ma'm, by your own admission of 6000 yeras, it is 5932 years of Bharat and a blimp of 68 years of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. Even then, it is Bharat's influence that extends to Pakistan & Bangladesh. You cannot divorce yourself from that rather inconvenient fact, can you? So, what is this South Asia?}. The exhibit brings together third-century textiles with modern Indian fashion, and shows how fabrics have been the heart of the subcontinent’s artistic practice, religious ritual and economy for centuries.

There are many highlights: a poppy strewn carpet from Shah Jehan’s summer palace; Tipu Sultan’s tent — a portable palace covered in paradisal motifs; an intricately embroidered Mughal riding coat; a talismanic shirt inscribed with Quranic verses in gold paint and ink; a turn-of-the-century handmade shamiana.

The V&A has made every effort to clarify that the India of the exhibition’s title is a historical construct, referring to the unified, pre-Partition entity. Ajraks from Sindh and cotton saris from Bengal are clearly marked as hailing from places located in modern-day Pakistan and Bangladesh. But there can be no doubt the exhibition is a soft coup for contemporary India. This is most obvious in the section on fabric and freedom, where a gallery is devoted to Gandhi and Nehru’s embrace of homespun khadi as a symbol of the self-rule movement, but there is no mention of Jinnah’s switch from suit to sherwani, or of his iconic karakul cap.

Pakistan’s fashion designers will also be disappointed to learn that they do not merit even a passing glance in a gallery celebrating contemporary Indian fashion. The likes of Manish Arora, Rahul Mishra and Abu Jani and Sandeep Khosla are framed as the keepers of the subcontinent’s textile heritage. We are also introduced to contemporary European designers who turn to India for inspiration — and more importantly to source fabric and other materials from the looms and artisanal workshops of various Indian states. But this is only to be expected of a show with Indian sponsors, including a high-end real-estate developer, jeweller and home decor company.

My point here is not to begrudge the V&A or the exhibition, but to marvel at the display of Indian soft power at its finest. Academic Joseph Nye coined the term ‘soft power’ — as opposed to ‘hard power’ such as military might — to describe a foreign policy strategy that relies on enticement rather than intimidation, and is implemented through civilian instruments such as diplomacy, investment, humanitarian work, strategic communication and artistic exchange.

Our neighbour has no doubt mastered the art of co-opting rather than coercing, of appealing to rather than appalling (as anyone who has seen the Best Exotic Marigold Hotel films will attest). The India brand is as strong as ever, and no number of Shiv Sena antics, human rights violations, communal incidents or poor development indicators will mar that — no doubt to the extreme frustration of the powers that be in Pakistan.

Rather than resent India’s soft power successes, Pakistan should learn from them. Soft power goes a great way towards shaping the global image of a country. It drives foreign investment and trade as a country’s products begin to have more global appeal. It helps bridge socio-cultu­ral diff­er­ence by imp­r­­oving global under­st­anding of a people. And it bestows political power by gener­ating respect, which translate into support at international fora.

Pakistan has long struggled for its global image to extend beyond terrorism and nukes (particularly as the two together make for a decidedly deadly combo). But when presenting ourselves on the world stage, we appear either armed or victimised. Neither position holds much appeal.

While the prime minister travels the world trying to woo investment and win political support, his administration should think about how to better project Pakistan’s soft power. There is no shortage of options given the proliferation of world-class Pakistani writers, filmmakers, musicians, animators, actors, artists, fashion designers and more. Sadly, Pakistan’s government and military are more interested in censorship and control than encouraging expression.

Moreover, soft power is the work of diplomats and bureaucrats, not men in uniform. When implemented by soldiers, the same strategies are propaganda, not soft power. As the balance of power continues to tip toward Pindi, it seems the soft power we have exerted (primarily, it seems, in the form of Fawad and Mahira) will begin to dissipate too.
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Why soft power when you have TIGHT security

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Paul wrote:Why soft power when you have TIGHT security

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Why Soft Power when you have Tight Security And Tight Pants And Tight Peshawari Sandals But No Tight Shalwars :mrgreen:
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whoa! that Four-ass Gafoor seem to have eaten half the ummah....
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SSridhar wrote:7.7 magnitude earthquake hits northern Pakistan.
Press in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is reporting 8.1 Magnitude for the earthquake:

8.1 magnitude earthquake strikes Pakistan


Not counting the casualties in Indian Territory occupied by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, two casualties have been reported in India.

X Posted from the “J&K News and Discussion-2015” thread.

Earthquake: Two army personnel were today injured when their bunker collapsed following tremors in Sopore, 55 kms from here, in north Kashmir's Baramulla district. :

Earthquake: 2 armymen injured in J&K as quake jolts North India
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hnair wrote:whoa! that Four-ass Gafoor seem to have eaten half the ummah....
:rotfl:

:rotfl:

I guess - local people would have already called him with the appellation that hnair just used above.

Extreme Diabetes problem .. probably.
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NSA Appointment - Edit in Dawn
IN the appointment of recently retired army general Nasser Khan Janjua as the country’s new national security adviser are two stories.

The first story is the military’s attempt to wrest away seemingly any space from the civilian government in the national security and foreign policy domains. In capturing the NSA slot, there are several advantages to the military.

The NSA is an important job and offers direct access to the civilian side of key foreign countries, which only awkwardly have been able to officially liaise with the military thus far. As NSA, Sartaj Aziz played a frontline role in reaching out to Afghanistan and India — and did so in a manner that reflected the civilian government’s priorities.

Arguably, in the case of India, that was what led to the debacle that was Ufa; it is difficult to imagine Mr Janjua being at Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s side and an Ufa-type declaration being approved by the Pakistani side.

Moreover, if talks do go ahead between the Indian and Pakistani NSAs, they are now likely to have a very different tone and tenor than if a PML-N appointee were to lead those talks.

Furthermore, when security dialogues with the US, Afghanistan and key allies of Pakistan take place, the military will have direct and immediate input in that process.

The other story, however, is the failings of the civilians. It was Prime Minister Sharif’s decision at the time of the cabinet formation in 2013 to retain the foreign and defence ministry portfolios for himself that set in motion a chain of events that have led to the present sorry state of affairs.

Compounding that original mistake, Mr Aziz was made both special adviser on foreign affairs and NSA — merging foreign policy with national security to no obvious benefit and allowing both the Foreign Office and the NSA position to suffer.

Then, it was the listless foreign policy performance of the government that created the opportunity for deep military intrusion.

The government is bereft of foreign policy ideas, as demonstrated once again by the White House meeting with US President Barack Obama last week.

Even on India, the only foreign policy issue the prime minister has shown sustained interest in, there have been a series of errors, culminating with Ufa, which has virtually eliminated any possibility of civilian initiatives on India.

If the military has eagerly grabbed space for itself, it is partly because a three-term prime minister and his veteran advisers have proved utterly inept in the foreign policy and national security domains.

The question now is, what new domestic repercussions will there be with Mr Janjua’s appointment.

Coming straight as the recently retired general is from Balochistan, how much influence will he exert on government policy and indeed its approach to the troubled province? Worryingly, the government may find itself further squeezed out, even domestically.
Apart from other factors, the Government of Pakistan may also be thinking that if Balochistan gains a salience as a stick to beat India with, then the 'Butcher of Balochistan' may come handy. This may be tactical brilliance but I am sure that this General is going to be a big burden for GoP, as all Pakistani Generals have been.
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Phone lines, internet and electricity down in Pakistan
LAHORE (Staff Report) – Phone lines, internet services and electricity are reportedly down across country after a strong earthquake at 2.30 pm on Monday.
Earthquake in Peshwar,(frontier ), power down in Krachi (south); does not make sense :roll:

Massive tremors lasting almost a minute were reported in Pakistan, India and Afghanistan.

People rushed out of offices and homes as buildings shook in Lahore, Islamabad and Northern areas. Cricket match in Qaddafi Stadium and Metro bus services have been halted.

Video footage showed panicked people rushing out of offices. “As we rushed out, we saw cars shaking,” said a man in Peshawar.

Hundreds of people are still outside, fearing aftershocks.
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SSridhar wrote:NSA Appointment - Edit in Dawn

Apart from other factors, the Government of Pakistan may also be thinking that if Balochistan gains a salience as a stick to beat India with, then the 'Butcher of Balochistan' may come handy. This may be tactical brilliance but I am sure that this General is going to be a big burden for GoP, as all Pakistani Generals have been.
Yes indeed tactical brilliance.

Till now Pakistan's Deep State was using the civilian government as a sort of buffer from criticism and PR face. Making the "Butcher of Baluchistan" as the face of Civilian Government on security matters, deep state has practically opened up that civilian government, which is the face of Pakistan to open criticism on the Baluchistan question. Now all charges on Baluchistan would hit Pakistan directly.

When one now says "Pakistan is committing atrocities in Baluchistan" it has a far more credible ring to it.

Pakistan has indeed made India and Baluchistan struggle's work easier.
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How is this guy a Balochi? I thought Janjuas are from either pakjab or sindh?
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hnair wrote:How is this guy a Balochi? I thought Janjuas are from either pakjab or sindh?
Not "Butcher from Baluchistan" but rather "Butcher of Baluchistan".
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Also the NSA fella might be a direct Army liaison to negotiate a nuke deal.
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Paul wrote:Why soft power when you have TIGHT security

Camel Toe...Paaki ishtyle.
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Is Maryam Nawaz Sharif gearing up to be the next prime minister of Pakistan?
The Glorification Of Maryam Nawaz - Part II
On October 22nd, the former US First Lady and current Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, survived an 11-hour long congressional hearing pushing her closer to the Oval Office. The same day, Justin Trudeau, the son of former Canadian Premier, PierreTrudeau, began his takeover of power in Ottawa, Canada. On that very day, just shy of her 42nd birthday, another political heir made her global debut standing next to Michelle Obama in the eastern wing of the White House.
This woman is Maryam Nawaz, the daughter of Pakistan’s incumbent third time Prime Minister, Nawaz Sharif, who has announced a commitment to educate more girls in her country. The fact that Maryam accompanied her father to his US trip seems to be a sign that she is being groomed as the second generation leader of the Sharif political dynasty, one of the two most powerful dynasties in the world’s sixth largest democracy alongside the Bhutto clan. The Twitter savvy Maryam had already been showing signs of influence in Pakistani politics, but her trip to the states is the most evident sign yet of her inevitable succession to the Sharif throne.
So, in this day and age of gender equality and globalization, a case is being "presented" to the Aam Abduls and Ayeshas of Bhooga/ Nanga Pakisatan for the "elevation" of the Londonistan educated Ms.Maryam to the PM-ship of the Land Of The Pure ; not to miss the == factor with BB and Trudeau Jr. in this farticle :mrgreen:
Akin to movie sequels, celebrities or major brands, political dynasties in Pakistan, like elsewhere in the world, enjoy recognition, wealth and connections essential to their survival and domination. In Pakistan, these families have substantial influence. ( not to say about their goonda gardi and street power )Before Nawaz, Pakistan was in the hands of Asif Ali Zardari, the widower of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, who herself was the daughter of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto who ruled the country for much of the 70s. Nawaz, a wealthy businessman, governed Pakistan twice in the 90s before coming to power again in 2013. His younger brother, Shahbaz Sharif, has been in control of Pakistan’s largest province since 2008 while his nephew, Hamza Shahbaz Sharif, has a seat in the parliament.
Ganja Sharif, to preserve his "legacy" has decided to enlist his daughter in the "family business", one hopes, with the written consent of Mr. Maryam Sharif (AKA Capt. Safdar ) and also advance fatwa obtained from various famous Islamic "Centres Of Learning ", like the Binori Mosque of Krachi, the Lal Masjid of Isloo, and the Terrorist University Of Akhora Khattack !
Then there are the smaller families, usually which have influence in specific parliamentary constituencies. A 2013 research found that approximately 44 per cent of all outgoing legislators in Pakistan were related to individuals who had served in previous legislative tenures. This is usually due to a relationship between the larger and smaller political dynasties. This mutually beneficial relationship is based on mutual support aimed at a control of absolute political power. These smaller political dynasties often change their allegiance depending on the public opinion of their constituents – this political fluidity prevents any meaningful political change in the country.[/quote]
The author of the farticle is obviously refering to the "biradari system of Pakistan", which one London based author has pin-pointed as the "glue holding pakisatan together"
With the grooming of a clear successor of Pakistan’s largest political party, the country can expect to remain under the influence of these dynasties. These dynastic families have become an inescapable part of Pakistan’s political culture. They are keeping up the facade of democracy while maintaining the privilege of a monarchy.

Unless some "mad mullah" takes over the reins of this artificial entity or unless the Faujis do away with the "facade" and take direct control, instead of the present "indirect control". In such a scenario, it will be interesting to see the fate of Whole Sharif Brand, including the newly advertised "product"; my guess:(1) An escape to Londonistan or (2)the permanent exile of the clan to The Land Of The Two Holy Cities
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RajeshA wrote:
hnair wrote:How is this guy a Balochi? I thought Janjuas are from either pakjab or sindh?
Not "Butcher from Baluchistan" but rather "Butcher of Baluchistan".
article above says "the recently retired general is from Balochistan".

IIRC, the last Janjua to hold a top post (Asif Nawaz) got suicided, a few years after the mango crate.
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Falijee wrote:Now, wait for a similar announcement from the Paki Govt to emulate the == farce :mrgreen:
The Fizzlya has had women fighter pilots for a while now.
They have ISPR'd it all over the internet.
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They probably sent a Aid request letter to Khan with the entire al-BUM of images with the " Champion of women's rights ", "We are more moderate than Sa...audi Barbaria/ Shias" type captions.
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Maleeha Lodhi sucking up to Putin in UNGA. Watch from 0:23

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMahzRxhPlY
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Mihaylo wrote:
Paul wrote:Why soft power when you have TIGHT security
Camel Toe...Paaki ishtyle.
Its is this famous Camel Toe Riding Caravan Carved Toe Nation Theory which separate them from human nation.
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Bharadwajv-Ji:
Thanks for the timely update; some questions, re. the posted pictures, if I may :
1. Are these snaps from the Al-Bum genuine ?
2. Did these "babes" had to undergo the mandatory examination (albeit from a female doctor, as per Sharia Law) to confirm that no Bachha Baazi ( a popular "pastime" in Af-Pak) is at play here :mrgreen:
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Modi-ji Announces 1 Crore Donation To Edhi Foundation :D

Indian PM Narendra Modi thanks Edhi for taking care of Geeta

NEW DEHL (Web Desk) – Indian prime minister, Narendra Modi on Monday thanked the Edhi family for taking care of Geeta, an Indian girl who had crossed into Pakistan and provided shelter by the Edhi foundation for 13 years.

The Indian PM has also announced to donate Rs.10 million to Edhi foundation.

The Indian PM met Geeta in his office and expressed happiness over her return to India.
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^ Some abduls, eechandee insulated and all, by the 1 Cr offer want Pak to reject the money. :mrgreen:
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Filipina maid raped by a Pakistani driver in UAE, afraid of being jailed.
In the United Arab Emirates, migrant women are routinely jailed for having sex outside marriage.
But these kind of laws are hardly enforced for the "upper echolons" of their society.
She had three young children and a husband who barely made enough to feed them. If she could work in the Gulf for even a few years, she thought, perhaps she'd be able to give those kids a different kind of life.
It took 10 hours for the bus to reach the capital of the Philippines, Manila. There, Monica signed up to an employment agency and flew to the United Arab Emirates, where she began work as a maid for an Emirati family.
First mistake !
...and at first Monica was excited to have a job. Gradually, though, she began to miss her children,...
There was another servant in the house, a driver from Pakistan. A few months after Monica arrived, the family went out for the day, leaving her alone with the driver.(not her fault- but second mistake)
"I was in the kitchen, cleaning. Then he came in… He was holding a knife while he forced himself on me… there was nothing I could do. I was alone. Even if I screamed, I was alone."
Three months later, having told no one about the rape, Monica realised she was pregnant. Under the laws of the UAE, sex outside marriage is a criminal offence. Since Monica had no way to prove she had been raped, the pregnancy stood as evidence of her guilt.
Fearing imprisonment, Monica hid the pregnancy as long as she was able. "I knew that they might send me to jail and I was really scared," she says.
The UAE government has not responded to requests from the BBC to discuss the Zina laws and the treatment of migrant domestic workers.
For Monica, as for other pregnant women facing jail for unlawful sex, the obvious way out is to leave the country. But here again, Monica found herself trapped by the laws of the UAE.
In the meantime, their citizens are "flying all over the world", sexually abusing the "haram flesh" and then fleeing the country, leaving bills unpaid and destroying lives :evil:
Using Facebook, Monica contacted the host of a popular radio talk show in the Philippines. She gave him the number of a mobile phone that she kept hidden in the kitchen. The talk show host called Monica a short while later.
Live on air, locked in the bathroom of her employer's house, Monica told thousands of listeners that she had been raped, that she was pregnant, and that she was desperate to get back home. "I want to leave but they won't let me," she said.
"Monica, does your family know about this here in the Philippines?" the radio host asked,
"No, they don't know," she replied.
"That's the most painful part of this story," the host told listeners. "She has a husband in the Philippines and he doesn't know."
Monica's gamble paid off. The blaze of publicity generated by her call forced the government in Manila to lean on the authorities in the UAE. Within weeks - just long enough to train a replacement house maid from Indonesia - Monica's employers returned her passport, bought her a ticket, and sent her back to the Philippines.
From the employment agency in Manila, Monica called her family. "At first my husband could not accept it. He was very angry. He blamed me, and said, 'That's what you get for wanting to work abroad.' But then he thought about it, and he said, 'Come home.'"
Accompanied by her father, Monica made the long drive back to the village. It was not the homecoming she had dreamed of. "If [your husband] can't accept the child," her mother suggested, "give the child to me. We will raise him."
After a while, though, Monica's husband calmed down. "Why give the child to your mother?" he told her. "Let him be ours."
Monica is one of five women featured in a BBC Arabic documentary, Pregnant and in Chains, which investigates what happens to unmarried women who fall pregnant in the UAE.
Pregnant and in Chains will open the BBC Arabic Film Festival at Broadcasting House in London on Friday 30 October. It will be available to view on the BBC Arabic website in November. An English version will be shown on Our World on the BBC News Channel and BBC World from Friday 6 November.
Monica was eight months pregnant when she spoke with the BBC at her home in the Philippines. A medical examination had confirmed that she was carrying a baby boy. We have been unable to contact her since.
Hope some kind of legal action must have been taken against the Paki B..%^sd :evil:
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Pakistan Rangers DG calls BSF chief, urges end to firing
The top commander of Pakistan's border guarding force on Monday called up the BSF chief to urge Indian troops to stop their retaliatory firing over escalated ceasefire violations by the neighbouring country following which both sides agreed to halt the exchanges.
Sources said that Rangers Director General Maj. Gen. Umar Farooq Burki told the BSF chief that they have suffered "very heavy" damage because of the BSF response and urged the border guarding force to stop its firing.

The Border Security Force (BSF) DG told his counterpart that there would be no retaliation if Pakistan does not initiate the firing, they added.
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