Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2015

The Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum is a venue to discuss issues pertaining to India's security environment, her strategic outlook on global affairs and as well as the effect of international relations in the Indian Subcontinent. We request members to kindly stay within the mandate of this forum and keep their exchanges of views, on a civilised level, however vehemently any disagreement may be felt. All feedback regarding forum usage may be sent to the moderators using the Feedback Form or by clicking the Report Post Icon in any objectionable post for proper action. Please note that the views expressed by the Members and Moderators on these discussion boards are that of the individuals only and do not reflect the official policy or view of the Bharat-Rakshak.com Website. Copyright Violation is strictly prohibited and may result in revocation of your posting rights - please read the FAQ for full details. Users must also abide by the Forum Guidelines at all times.
member_22733
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3788
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby member_22733 » 17 Dec 2015 13:12

g.sarkar wrote:
partha wrote:A few news headlines like -
1) Chinese Railway company to conduct feasibility study of Karachi-Lahore bullet train project; promises $100B loan at 0% interest.
2) Water and power resources minister Khwaja Asif says Pakistan will build mini bullet trains by 2022.


3) Pakistan can not build the bullet train as the evil Hindus are taking the Bijli out of the water that they release. There is not enough Bijli left to run bullet trains.



Bakistan already has Bullet train: Everytime there is a flight landing in Peshawar Airport, a very very fast "bullet train" follows it.

Falijee
BRF Oldie
Posts: 10948
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby Falijee » 17 Dec 2015 13:23

The "Untouchable Cleric Of Lal Masjid.

Pakistan Military Deals a Blow to Jihadists but Not to Ideology
By ROD NORDLANDDEC. 16, 2015
NEW YORK TIMES
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — All cellphone coverage was blocked by the government for three hours one recent afternoon in the Pakistani capital, and it did not take people long to discover why: Maulana Abdul Aziz, the radical preacher of the Red Mosque, was sermonizing again.
Barred from giving sermons in the mosque, the scene of an army siege on extremists that killed as many as 75 people in 2007, Mr. Aziz had announced that he would relay his latest Friday sermon by cellphone, calling aides at the mosque who would rebroadcast it over the mosque’s loudspeakers.
But instead of arresting the jihadist preacher, as many moderate Pakistanis would like, the authorities simply turned off the city’s cell networks last Friday from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m., the traditional time for Friday Prayer, according to senior Pakistani officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to the news media.

This radical maulvi obviously has some very "deep friends" in the Paki Deep State and in Saudia :mrgreen:
Mr. Aziz’s relative untouchability is a measure of how enduring the power of militant Islamist ideology has remained in Pakistan. ( meanwhile innocent Pashtuns and Balochis are slaughtered every day in the name of "fighting terrorism") Even as the Pakistani military has driven some jihadist groups out of business or into hiding over the past year, other technically banned jihadist or sectarian groups like Lashkar-e-Taiba and Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat are still thriving, with little apparent effort by the government or military to curb them.

The ascendance of such groups and of radical mosques and madrasas was well underway during the years that Tashfeen Malik, half of the husband-wife pair of attackers in California, returned to Pakistan for her university education in Punjab Province.
Many Pakistani officials have been quick to suggest that Ms. Malik must have found her extremist beliefs while she was growing up in Saudi Arabia. But the reality in Pakistan is that hard-line Islamist views in line with some of the most conservative Saudi teachings are more mainstream than ever.

...some Pakistani women have been at the fore in pushing the Islamist agenda themselves.

That fact came into view most prominently with the case of Aafia Siddiqui, a Pakistani neuroscientist and member of Al Qaeda who was convicted in 2010 of trying to kill American personnel in Afghanistan. She is serving an 86-year prison sentence in the United States.

A recent example popped up here at the Jamia Hafsa school, a girls’ madrasa attached to Mr. Aziz’s Red Mosque. About 15 of the older students recently posted a video of themselves in full burqas in front of the flag of the Islamic State, praising the group’s leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, and asking him to come help them avenge their followers and others who have been killed — especially Osama bin Laden.
“May God annihilate America and those who support it,” their spokeswoman said. “We pray for you every night here in the land of Pakistan.”
Mr. Aziz, sitting this week in the Martyr Osama Bin Laden Library at the school, said the girls who took part in the video were scolded for their actions. “We have nothing to do with this video: Some students in an individual capacity did this, but we don’t endorse it,” Mr. Aziz said. “We told them not to do this.” :roll:
That is the case with the once-powerful Pakistani Taliban, as even a senior official of the insurgents, meeting privately with a Western journalist last week, conceded.
“In Pakistan we can hardly operate anymore,” he said, saying the organization has mostly moved to Afghanistan and has forged closer ties with the Afghan Taliban. “In Afghanistan, we have no problem going anywhere.”
He attributed the Pakistani Taliban’s declining fortunes to the Taliban’s bloody attack on a military school in Peshawar last December, in which 145 students were slaughtered. “That was a flawed strategy from our leadership; it was disastrous for us,” he said.
The public outcry was a tremendous lift to the military and its anti-militant operations — which many had earlier complained were halfhearted at best — against the Pakistani Taliban and some of their allies.

The prevalence of that ideology has become a factor even in the news and entertainment industry. Take,oo o for instance, the relatively mainstream commentator and television host Zaid Hamid, with almost 800,000 “likes” on his official Facebook page and a warm relationship with Pakistan’s de facto military rulers, who has long espoused views regarded elsewhere as extremist or at least on the fringe.
The Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, he insists, were engineered by the C.I.A., which also helped the Indian intelligence service introduce suicide bombing to Pakistan, in Mr. Hamid’s view. The killing of Bin Laden in Pakistan by a United States Navy SEAL team had to have been faked, because the Qaeda leader was not even in Pakistan.
Then there is this recent post: “I told you years ago that ISIS is Jewish Israel secret service gangs pretending to be Muslim jihadis.” As evidence, Mr. Hamid cited a Daily Mail article about Israeli medics treating Islamist battle casualties in Syria.

So, the "famous" Lal Topi now gets a mention in the "famous" Amrikee opinion making paper :mrgreen:
“The state needs a comprehensive counterterrorism plan,” said Muhammad Amir Rana, the director of the Pak Institute for Peace Studies. “This whole menace of terrorism cannot be dealt with purely as a security threat. The ideological threat still needs to be addressed.”

Which most likely is never going to happen :mrgreen:

SSridhar
Forum Moderator
Posts: 24179
Joined: 05 May 2001 11:31
Location: Chennai

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby SSridhar » 17 Dec 2015 14:24

Dhaka may throw out Pakistani diplomat - Haroon Habib, The Hindu
Bangladesh is likely to take action against a Pakistani diplomat for reportedly promoting militancy in the country.

Bangladesh Home Minister Asaduzzaman Khan Kamal said steps would be taken against Farina Arshad if allegations levelled against her were proved.

“We do not want to do anything in a rush unless we could be sure about that. If we get sure about it [Farina’s militancy involvement] we will take every necessary action against her through the Foreign Ministry,”
the Minister told reporters.

Outside interference

On Tuesday , the Minister had accused Pakistan of “still conspiring” against Bangladesh. Ms. Arshad is a second secretary in the High Commission and her involvement came to the light during the interrogation of members of the organisation Jam’atul Mujahideen Bangladesh

The JMB’s activities, according to Mr. Kamal, are under control. “But, many local and international quarters are helping them.”

High Commission protests

Meanwhile, the Pakistan High Commission, in a press release, denied media reports insinuating Ms. Arshad financed terrorism in the country.

The embassy termed the reports “utterly baseless” and “fabricated,” and said diplomatic norms and courtesies were “thrown to the wind” by those publishing such news.



saip
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3926
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 12:31
Location: USA

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby saip » 17 Dec 2015 20:20

Instead of saying it publicly Bangladesh should have thrown her out. Now Pakistan may outwit them by declaring one of BD's diplomat as persona non grata. Some years back a similar thing happened when India was contemplating to expel a Pakistani diplomat, Pakistan preempted that move by declaring one of Indian diplomats as PNG. You can never trust pakis.

A_Gupta
BRF Oldie
Posts: 11639
Joined: 23 Oct 2001 11:31
Contact:

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby A_Gupta » 17 Dec 2015 20:33


shiv
BRF Oldie
Posts: 34982
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30
Location: Pindliyon ka Gooda

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby shiv » 17 Dec 2015 20:46

saip wrote:Instead of saying it publicly Bangladesh should have thrown her out. Now Pakistan may outwit them by declaring one of BD's diplomat as persona non grata. Some years back a similar thing happened when India was contemplating to expel a Pakistani diplomat, Pakistan preempted that move by declaring one of Indian diplomats as PNG. You can never trust pakis.

There is no outwitting here. It is standard procedure to do a tit for tat. US and USSR used to do it all the time. Throwing out a diplomat after giving the reason is the best thing to do. Pakis may copy and do tit for tat but that will be recognized as sour grapes.

saip
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3926
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 12:31
Location: USA

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby saip » 17 Dec 2015 20:48

Shiv, the first one who does it, does it for cause and the second one does it as tit for tat.

shiv
BRF Oldie
Posts: 34982
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30
Location: Pindliyon ka Gooda

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby shiv » 17 Dec 2015 20:53

saip wrote:Shiv, the first one who does it, does it for cause and the second one does it as tit for tat.

It does not matter much either way, because the spy link is broken. Pakis do cheap things and very few people are impressed by such idiotic tricks or imagine that they somehow help Pakistan gain dignity and respect.

Prem
BRF Oldie
Posts: 21175
Joined: 01 Jul 1999 11:31
Location: Weighing and Waiting 8T Yconomy

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby Prem » 18 Dec 2015 00:08

http://www.baaghi.tv/khara-sach-with-mu ... mber-2015/
Mushy quote Buttarkha Dutt at 4.30. Watch him lying non stop. Kargil was great Victory

http://www.baaghi.tv/khara-sach-with-mu ... mber-2015/

Peregrine
BRF Oldie
Posts: 8441
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2015

Postby Peregrine » 18 Dec 2015 00:13

Indo-Pak foreign secretary meet: Venue not yet decided, no role for Hurriyat

NEW DELHI: India today said the date and venue for next month's meeting between Indo-Pak Foreign Secretaries are yet to be finalised and asserted that all bilateral issues are to be addressed mutually between the two countries.

"Two Foreign Secretaries are in touch with each other but the date and venue are yet to be finalised.

"All the bilateral issues are to be addressed mutually between India and Pakistan and this was recently reiterated in a joint statement issued after the External Affairs Minister's meeting with the Pakistan Prime Minister and his Foreign Affairs Advisor in Islamabad," External Affairs Ministry Spokesperson Vikas Swarup said.

He was asked if Pakistani delegation again met Hurriyat separatists or the Kashmiri separatist leaders tried to meet them here.

In August, the NSA-level talks were called off after New Delhi had made it clear that the then Pakistan National Security Advisor Sartaz Aziz would not be allowed to meet Kashmiri separatist leaders here.

Cheers Image

KLNMurthy
BRF Oldie
Posts: 4320
Joined: 17 Aug 2005 13:06

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby KLNMurthy » 18 Dec 2015 04:04

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1011738/lea ... lls-india/

Translation from paki-speak to human-speak:

Pakistan would be perfectly happy to forget all their attacks on India, and their genocide of Hindus, and want India to do the same. Reciprocity, paki style.

Prem
BRF Oldie
Posts: 21175
Joined: 01 Jul 1999 11:31
Location: Weighing and Waiting 8T Yconomy

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby Prem » 18 Dec 2015 09:35

US engaged with Pakistan on tactical N-weapons: Olson

WASHINGTON: A senior US official has told Congress that the United States has held candid discussions with Pakistan on its short-range nuclear weapons and Pakistan is willing to engage with the US on this issue.Richard Olson, US Special Representative for Pakistan and Afghanistan, also told the House Foreign Affairs Committee that the Obama administration was “not negotiating a one-two-three agreement — a civil nuclear cooperation agreement with Pakistan.”“We’ve had a very candid discussion with the Pakistanis about some of the concerns that we have, including about shorter-range nuclear systems. And Pakistan has been prepared to engage with us in those — in those discussions,” he added.Mr Olson said Pakistan was well aware of the extremist and insurgent threats to the security of its nuclear weapons and had a professional and dedicated security force to defend them.“As with all nuclear-capable states, we have urged Pakistan to restrain its nuclear weapons and missile development,” he said.“(We also) stressed the importance of avoiding any developments that might invite increased risk to nuclear safety, security, or strategic stability.”Pakistani officials reject such concerns as unfounded and say that the country was forced to make tactical nuclear weapons to counter India’s so-called cold-start theory.Mr Olson, who was the US ambassador in Islamabad before he moved back to Washington last month, said that despite many challenges, “Pakistan will continue to be an important partner for the United States for the foreseeable future, particularly in light of our enduring presence in Afghanistan.”
Mr Olson acknowledged that Pakistan had reasserted their sovereign authority over North Waziristan. “Miramshah, which was the headquarters of, amongst others, the Haqqani network and the Pakistani Taliban — completely cleared. I’ve been to downtown Miramshah,” he said.
“Its addition of small tactical nuclear weapons in recent years is even more troubling. This is a country which spends a fifth of its budget on the military … but under 2.5 per cent on education,” he said.Mr Royce said that while Congress had withheld some military assistance to Pakistan because of its concerns about the Haqqani network, the State Department was seeking more arms for Islamabad, which might or might not be used against the militants.But Ambassador Olson assured him that the US had “a very stringent end-use monitoring” system for its high-tech security cooperation with Pakistan.Chairman Royce said he was not surprised to learn that Tashfeen Malik, the female attacker in the recent San Bernardino, California, shooting, had studied at a Pakistani religious school.“Pakistan maintains an infrastructure of hate,” Congressman Royce said. “Thousands of Deobandi madrassas — funded with Gulf state money — teach intolerant, hate-filled rhetoric that inspires the foot soldiers of jihadist terrorism,” he said.‘I’ve made three trips to Islamabad to press this issue. Pakistan must do the work to register schools, and close those creating new generations of radicals.”Ambassador Olson said the Obama administration shared lawmakers’ concerns but also informed them that Pakistan was addressing the problem as part of its National Action Plan.

member_22733
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3788
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby member_22733 » 18 Dec 2015 09:37

Let me give you a translation:

Please dont make those weapons smaller than a car, because then we can get screwed. As long as they cannot be driven around in a soosai vehicle through long distances (like US-Mexico border) and as long as they are meant for India we are okay.

Falijee
BRF Oldie
Posts: 10948
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby Falijee » 18 Dec 2015 16:20

The Liberation of Dhaka and the Whitewashing of Pakistan's History
Imagine yourself advocating for the absolution of the masterminds behind the Peshawar Army public school attack. Imagine that those killers have been given the highest medals of honor and are being celebrated as heroes— brave soldiers who killed for the sake of their country. Now imagine that it is not a single person, but a whole nation standing together to justify such a brutal act.
I can’t, and I don’t want to imagine a world like that for either myself or for anyone else. Unfortunately, the truth is that I am part of such a world, community and nation that stands proudly and defends firmly war crimes that were committed against their own fellow citizens. Do you remember the “fall of Dhaka“, on December 16 1971?

...then why is it that we have still been silent for decades about our Bengali brothers and sisters demanding justice?(good question)

Pakistan’s education system is a smokescreen designed to alter the course of history for the upcoming generation. It fails to mention a single word about the atrocities and war crimes committed by the country’s armed forces in Bangladesh (then East Pakistan) in 1971. Our curriculum cites Indian-backed “Mukti Bahini” as the culprits. The Al-Badr, Al Shams and Razakar militia are referred to as “armed volunteers” of Jamat-e-Islami supporting West Pakistan’s armed forces.
This is the root of the problem ( garbled history/propaganda/ideology about Pakistan, Hindus, Islam etc in their own text books taught in Paki schools and colleges; as the late Ardeshir Cowasjee noted unless this rectified-which it has not been - the younger generation will also grow up and behave no different !)
The other side of the story, in which these “volunteers” allegedly acted as the Pakistan army’s death squad to kill off the left-wing intellectual elite is conveniently absent from our textbooks. The same books also cite “lack of resources” as one of the main reasons for the loss of Pakistan’s eastern province, and do not highlight the fact that it was in fact the economic and cultural repression of Bengalis by the Punjabi ruling elite that led to the separation.

One example of such cultural repression was the ban imposed in 1967 on playing the works of the great Bengali poet, Rabindranath Tagore on Radio Pakistan. Tagore was the first non-European to win Nobel peace prize in Literature in 1913.
These perceptions are evident not only in our text books but in our political and social opinions as well. Pakistanis, for instance, have expressed great concern and have deemed the trial of former Al-Badr leader Mujahid “deeply flawed”. Time and again, Pakistanis have opposed judgments against the Jamat-e-Islami leaders for war crimes committed and proven.

And the same leaders are in charge of the "Ideology of Pakistan"- whatever that means !
Pakistan’s school and college textbooks are full of hate speech and convenient lies. The official narrative whitewashes war crimes and endorses jihad as a noble act in religious history. The National Commission of Justice and Peace has discovered blatant religious biases in textbooks used in English, Urdu, Pakistan studies and social studies classes.

K.K. Aziz’s Murder of History: A critique on History textbooks used in Pakistan is an insightful book that raises pertinent questions about the education system and challenges the conspiracy theories being taught. It was published in 1985, and is a solid source of information for those interested in examining the divide between historical evidence the information presented in our textbooks. In one of the chapters, Aziz questions the false account of 1971 war, according to which the Pakistani armed forces are celebrated as setting new records for bravery, and Indian forces are portrayed as the defeated. As a child, I’d always found it confusing and wondered what really happened.

In addition to Aziz’s book, there are war museums full of historical evidence and international newspapers, books and journals with pictures and videos that prove what the Pakistani military did in 1971 in Bangladesh was not brave, but heinous.

44 years have elapsed since these crimes were committed, since the Pakistani army raped Bangladeshi women and murdered their country’s children and youth. In 2002, one of Pakistan’s military rulers, Pervez Musharraf, expressed regret for the harm done, and was the first to offer a subtle apology.
Earlier this month, however, Pakistan suddenly retracted that stance, and categorically denied that any war crimes were committed in 1971. The statement came after one of the Jamat-e-Islami leaders was executed in Bangladesh for those crimes in November.

My thoughts are with the families who lost their children last year in Peshawar, but I also can't stop thinking about those Bangladeshi families who suffered at the hands of Pakistani army. Those families know their enemies and want justice for their loved ones, and their pain must also resurface every year, just as it does, and will continue to, for the families of APS victims.

But the Bengalis of East Pakistan were not considered "true Muslims" by the West Pakistanis, :mrgreen:

Falijee
BRF Oldie
Posts: 10948
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby Falijee » 18 Dec 2015 16:58

Muslim family 'denied boarding' on flight to US from Gatwick
Mohammed Zahid Mahmood, from Walthamstow, eight members of his family and two other children checked in on Tuesday for the Norwegian Airlines flight to Los Angeles. (Paki victim ? :mrgreen: )
They had obtained travel authorisation under the Visa Waiver programme. :roll:
The family say they were told an official in the US had objected.(fallout from the recent California episode?)
At the boarding gate Mr Mahmood said they were told they could not travel but no reason was given.
The family say their visas were approved more than a month ago and that they were travelling to see Mr Mahmood's brother in Los Angeles.

'"We checked in, there were no problems," Mr Mahmood told the BBC. "Just before the final check we were singled out.

"Border control came and said 'Can we have your passports?'. He asked us to distinguish between my brother's children and my children.

"Then he came back and said, 'I'm sorry you can't board this flight. We received a call from Washington DC that we can't allow this family to board the flight'."

Mr Mahmood said he had educated his children "to live in this country peacefully" and had been invited to speak at local schools about Islamophobia.

He said he had once been detained for eight days at Tel Aviv airport.

"No-one is taking the blame. We are just going round in circles. It's about £8,000-£9,000 we've spent on tickets."

A spokesperson for Norwegian Airlines said: "We can confirm that a group of passengers were denied the right to board a flight from London Gatwick to Los Angeles yesterday at the request of US Homeland security. Norwegian fully complies with requests from the border controls of each country we serve."

The US Embassy could not be reached for comment and Gatwick Airport said they had no information about the incident.

Falijee
BRF Oldie
Posts: 10948
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby Falijee » 18 Dec 2015 17:39

Pakistani Involved In Earlier Paris Attack :mrgreen:
Two suspected of links to Paris attacks arrested in Austria refugee center (one of them is from Pakistani origin) (reuters.com)
Two people have been arrested at a refugee center in the Austrian city of Salzburg on suspicion of being connected to last month's Paris attacks, the Salzburg prosecutors' office said on Wednesday.
The two are men who are thought to have provided help to members of the group that carried out the attacks on Nov. 13 in which 130 people were killed, two Austrian newspapers reported.

National tabloid Kronen Zeitung said they were French, of Algerian and Pakistani origin, and entered Europe through Greece on fake Syrian passports with members of the group that carried out the Paris attacks.

kancha
BRFite
Posts: 935
Joined: 20 Apr 2005 19:13

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby kancha » 18 Dec 2015 20:42

Sarfaraz Ali ‏@sarfarazbangash 58m58 minutes ago
Dr sahab Unannounced curfew imposed today in parachimar. Reasons only known to them.
@mazdaki

rsingh
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3439
Joined: 19 Jan 2005 01:05
Location: Pindi
Contact:

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby rsingh » 18 Dec 2015 21:25

Elaborate please.Is it Parachinar , main city og Kurram agency Bakistan?

Prem
BRF Oldie
Posts: 21175
Joined: 01 Jul 1999 11:31
Location: Weighing and Waiting 8T Yconomy

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby Prem » 18 Dec 2015 22:25

Khyber air strikes: At least 23 suspected militants killed, several injured
After East pakistan,Now North West Pakistan

PESHAWAR: At least 23 suspected militants were killed in air strikes carried out by the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) in the Rajgal area of Khyber Agency's Tirah Valley close to the Pak-Afghan border on Tuesday.“PAF jets struck hideouts of the militants in Tirah valley,” said a statement issued by Inter-Services Public Relations.The statement further added that six hideouts of terrorists were destroyed while 10 suspected militants were also injured as a result of precise air strikes.Khyber Agency and North Waziristan are among Pakistan’s seven semi-autonomous tribal districts near the Afghan border, rife with homegrown insurgents and foreign militants.The tribal area is off limits to journalists, making it difficult to verify the identity and the number of dead.These areas have also been considered home to religious extremist organisations including Al Qaeda and the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP).

Falijee
BRF Oldie
Posts: 10948
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby Falijee » 19 Dec 2015 00:09

Jhujar-ji
As you suspect in the name of "fighting terrorism", there is essentially a active civil(guerrilla) war in the FATA region of NW Pakistan and Balochistan, away from the glare of media. ANP leader, Isfandyar Khan has already warned Pakistan on the consequences of this action !

Peregrine
BRF Oldie
Posts: 8441
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby Peregrine » 19 Dec 2015 00:32

Jhujar wrote:Khyber air strikes: At least 23 suspected militants killed, several injured
After East pakistan,Now North West Pakistan


Jhujar Ji :

Now the valiant Pakistani Army has killed 23 Humanities since the most poetic bit Muslim pundits tell the world is that Islam says if you murder one human being you murder the whole human race.

Cheers Image

Prem
BRF Oldie
Posts: 21175
Joined: 01 Jul 1999 11:31
Location: Weighing and Waiting 8T Yconomy

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby Prem » 19 Dec 2015 01:04

Peregrine wrote:Jhujar Ji :Now the valiant Pakistani Army has killed 23 Humanities since the most poetic bit Muslim pundits tell the world is that Islam says if you murder one human being you murder the whole human race.


Siir Ji,
Paki will demand 4 eye witness to prove the murder of all 23. It is better if Waziri take revenge on Pakjabi terrorists killing innocent Pashtun people like they did in East Pakistan.

Peregrine
BRF Oldie
Posts: 8441
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2015

Postby Peregrine » 19 Dec 2015 03:33

Military still plays bloated role in Pakistan's politics: Hina Rabbani Khar
Former foreign minister Hina Rabbani Khar has said the military still plays a bloated role in Pakistan’s politics, claiming the prime minister has “much less freedom than he ought to have.”

Despite the first-ever successful transition of power from one civilian government to another after 2013 general elections, the ex-foreign minister believed the powerful military establishment dominates the office of the prime minister. The first female foreign minister of Pakistan made the remarks on Al Jazeera English’s ‘Head to Head’ segment.

Khar also said Pakistan was ‘guilty of being incompetent’ when it came to the presence of Osama Bin Laden in Abbottabad, while denying any role of the PPP-led government in protecting the global terror kingpin
.
Cheers Image

Peregrine
BRF Oldie
Posts: 8441
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2015

Postby Peregrine » 19 Dec 2015 03:40

FO briefing: Pakistan wants uninterrupted talks with India, says spokesperson
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Thursday said it wants ‘uninterrupted’ dialogue with India to find a solution to “all outstanding issues, including the long-running dispute of Kashmir”.

Cheers Image

jash_p
BRFite
Posts: 284
Joined: 03 Feb 2008 05:56

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby jash_p » 19 Dec 2015 06:40

Pakistani burglar gang arrested in Sharjah
DAWN.COM — PUBLISHED ABOUT 7 HOURS AGO

The Sharjah Police on Friday arrested a five-member Pakistani gang for alleged burglaries and theft in commercial outlets in Sharjah, read a report published on Khaleej Times.

The group comprising five Pakistanis allegedly carried out thefts in a number of shops and outlets in various areas in the Gulf state, local police said.

The police claimed that the gang members resisted the arrest while one of them had a knife, but police managed to arrest him.

A Criminal Investigation Department (CID) official said they received a number of complaints at various police stations that "some thieves had broken into their shops" and stole cash, goods and various valuable items.

The police managed to locate their apartment and identified the suspects through surveillance cameras before arresting them, as part of their ongoing investigation in response to the complaints.

All suspects have been referred to public prosecution.



AOA Munnas are doing great work and they are pride of nation of Pure.

Falijee
BRF Oldie
Posts: 10948
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby Falijee » 19 Dec 2015 06:47

Immy Opposes Paki Inclusion In Saudi-Led-Anti Terrorism Coalition
LAHORE (Staff Report) – Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf Chairman Imran Khan Friday opposed Pakistan’s joining the Saudi Arabia-led counter-terrorism alliance.
He said this while talking to media at Lahore airport. Khan said that joining the 34-nation alliance against terrorism may spark sectarianism in Pakistan.
“Government should conduct debate on this issue in the parliament before approval,” he said.

Most of the 34 (Sunni only, please ) Ummah nations are in the "back pockets" of the Saudis :mrgreen: money diplomacy at play !

Gagan
BRF Oldie
Posts: 11209
Joined: 16 Apr 2008 22:25

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby Gagan » 19 Dec 2015 14:15

Dimran khan knows better than to say such things.
The next time he is in barbaria, they might bring him in and give him 1000 lashes for being dim...

Peregrine
BRF Oldie
Posts: 8441
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2015

Postby Peregrine » 19 Dec 2015 14:58

Ex-envoy sheds light on mystery about failure to block IAEA India-specific deal]

A whole load of Cwapistan Male Bovine Faecal Droppings.

IMO more and more Anti-Indian rhetoric is being propagated as TSCA is afraid that Nawaz’s interaction with India might bring Peace with India. TSCA has no need to worry. Nawaz is as big an Anti Indian Islamic Fundamentalist as any other Cwapistani Leader.

Cheers Image

Peregrine
BRF Oldie
Posts: 8441
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2015

Postby Peregrine » 19 Dec 2015 15:32

Don't speak against India, Nawaz Sharif speak with Forked Tongue

ISLAMABAD: Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has stopped his ministers from giving anti-India statements so that the peace process is not hit, an official said.

A close aide to Sharif said on Friday that the ministers and senior officials had been asked not
to issue any statement that could damage the peace process.

"There will be statements only that encourage the dialogue process rather than digging out the past. The PM has asked the close aides and cabinet members to promote peace," The Nation quoted an official as saying.

He said Sharif was optimistic about better ties with India, which would benefit the whole region.

Sharif was annoyed by statements from India that New Delhi only wanted to discuss Pakistan occupied Kashmir in talks, but understands this is not Inidan government's policy, the official added.

Sharif, the official said, wanted to give top priority to Kashmir, terrorism and trade when the two sides discuss peace.

Another official said Sharif and the military leadership were on the same page to make peace with India. This Official is lying though his bare teeth

"There is no difference of opinion and both agree that there should be no compromise on the stated position on key issues," he added.

An interaction between Sharif and his Indian counterpart Narendra Modi in Paris and subsequent meeting of the National Security Advisors in Bangkok set the pace for improvement in the bilateral ties.

External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj also visited Pakistan on December 8 to attend the Heart of Asia conference.

She met Sharif and his advisor on foreign affairs Sartaj Aziz on the sidelines of the conference.

It is expected that Sharif and Modi will meet again in Switzerland in January. The two leaders will be together on January 20 to attend the 46th annual meeting of the World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos-Klosters.

India's outgoing High Commissioner to Pakistan TCA Raghavan on Thursday said the relations between the two countries were heading towards betterment.

Analysts said it was a positive development that Pakistan and India agreed to resume comprehensive dialogue to resolve all outstanding issues.

Cheers Image

Falijee
BRF Oldie
Posts: 10948
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby Falijee » 19 Dec 2015 19:03

Britain rejecting Pakistani visa applicants in droves :mrgreen:
ISLAMABAD:
The United Kingdom is pursuing an unannounced policy (Bartania practicing Taqqiya? :eek: ) of turning down visa applications of Pakistanis, becoming one of the top ‘no-go’ countries for the country’s nationals, a study and background interviews conducted by the Online news agency have revealed.

Although the British High Commission in Islamabad and two deputy high commissions in Karachi and Lahore are fully functional, the visa applications of Pakistanis are processed at the Abu Dhabi High Commission, mainly by Indian staff.(must be RAA agents!) Even a large number of Pakistanis who have visited the UK twice or thrice in the recent past have been denied visas for unclear reasons.

The British High Commission in Islamabad officially refused to provide the number of applications received and rejected, and how much amount was accumulated against them this year. An official of the high commission said the figure could run into thousands.[color=#0000FF]
But just the other day, the UK High Commissioner was "praising" Paki foreign investment policy
Mohammad Atif, who had applied for the UK visa from Lahore, said his three consecutive applications were rejected on different grounds. “Finally, when I cleared all the objections, the visa officer rejected my application, because he thought I would stay behind there despite the fact I had lived in the UK for two and a half months before”.

Each time, I deposited Rs14,000 as visa fees and the high commission always welcomed that because they were getting money against the application. They should have refused to receive the subsequent applications if they had cogent reason to turn down my first application”, he said.

He can "try" suing them for "mental harrasement" :mrgreen:


Karan Dixit
BRFite
Posts: 1102
Joined: 23 Mar 2007 02:43
Location: Calcutta

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby Karan Dixit » 19 Dec 2015 22:17

Each time, I deposited Rs14,000 as visa fees and the high commission always welcomed that because they were getting money against the application. They should have refused to receive the subsequent applications if they had cogent reason to turn down my first application”, he said.


I think Brits have figured out a new source of revenue from Pakistan.

BharadwajV
BRFite
Posts: 116
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby BharadwajV » 19 Dec 2015 22:21

Falijee-Page not found error.
But I see that "it" indeed is a real issue.
Case in point:Recent famous Pakistani M(ard?)om-e-Momeen...Mrs.Malik the Daesh supporter.
Image
Any curious Passport Office waala with a Black ink pen would be able to extract the face of an ugly Pakistani Man from the portrait of "Hello, Daesh Pharmaceuticals and Mass Murderers.....How may we help you?"!

sampat
BRFite
Posts: 479
Joined: 10 Feb 2008 23:54

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby sampat » 19 Dec 2015 22:21

^^ brit has the worst visa application service. design to steal your money at multiple touch-points without providing any helpful service.

rsingh
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3439
Joined: 19 Jan 2005 01:05
Location: Pindi
Contact:

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby rsingh » 19 Dec 2015 22:30



There was this story of this British journalist who traveled out of London on his girlfriend's passport. Mind you there was some high alert and Pm was in some "Cobra " meeting.

rsingh
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3439
Joined: 19 Jan 2005 01:05
Location: Pindi
Contact:

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby rsingh » 19 Dec 2015 22:33

sampat wrote:^^ brit has the worst visa application service. design to steal your money at multiple touch-points without providing any helpful service.


I am told by a very reliable source that India is paying back in kind and there are continuous constipated moaning from brits in our visa offices all around the world.

Anujan
Forum Moderator
Posts: 7007
Joined: 27 May 2007 03:55

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby Anujan » 19 Dec 2015 22:50

Remember this motorma Maria Sultan who conducts seminars every day everywhere in the world for "Strategic Stability in South Asia" (arguments are usually that India should not be given a special nuclear status, that will force Pakis to make more nukes, Pakis should be given more conventional weapons, else Pakis will be forced to make more nukes, Pakis should not be asked to stop making more nukes, that will scare them and Pakis will make more nukes)

They even set up an institute "South Asian strategic stability institute.". This motorma is its Director General. Also has a colorful history, used to be the protege of Miss Jalebi and honey trapped the British Defence Attache. Apparently he was so exhausted that he had to be admitted to a hospital!! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4158958.stm

Anyway, the reason that I am reminding everyone of her, is because here is the latest gem from the "Nuclear Analyst"

https://twitter.com/MariaSultaan/status ... 3862948864

#WikiLeaks reveals #MQM building a Nuclear site & the ThermoNuclear weapons to combat Pak Army with its 18 years young workers as threatened

Karan M
Forum Moderator
Posts: 19836
Joined: 19 Mar 2010 00:58

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby Karan M » 19 Dec 2015 23:02

^^ That will make Pakistan to make more nuclear weapons.

Peregrine
BRF Oldie
Posts: 8441
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2015

Postby Peregrine » 20 Dec 2015 00:30

Four well-educated Cwapistani men held on terrorism charge
KARACHI: Four well-educated people, including one who had studied at two American universities and was running his own educational institution, have been arrested for their alleged involvement in the Safoora carnage and other terrorist attacks, according to a senior police officer.

The chief of police’s Counter-Terrorism Department (CTD), Raja Umar Khattab, said at a press conference on Friday that the wives of two of the arrested suspects, along with their accomplices, used to brainwash educated and rich women through sermons and videos about the militant Islamic State (IS) group and other terrorist outfits.

Cheers Image

member_22733
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3788
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby member_22733 » 20 Dec 2015 00:42

rsingh wrote:
sampat wrote:^^ brit has the worst visa application service. design to steal your money at multiple touch-points without providing any helpful service.


I am told by a very reliable source that India is paying back in kind and there are continuous constipated moaning from brits in our visa offices all around the world.


I believe they have visa on arrival.


Return to “Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Nishant Kumar Jha and 62 guests