Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2015

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby UlanBatori » 23 Jan 2016 17:32

ramana wrote:Maybe Pak Army was behind Charasadda attack.


Pak Army - or those whom it trained and funded - is behind ***ALL** terrorist attacks, in and outside Pakistan. Only question is which # cousin, and how many fathers removed.

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Postby UlanBatori » 23 Jan 2016 17:37

Strange spectacle of UK’s "The Economist" making nice to India

Of course the mofos have to say
With more imagination than evidence..

When the truth is "With noses growing longer every word.."

So nothing has changed about the basic oiseuleness of The EconoPakist. What has changed maybe is the growing realization that the next TTP/ISI attack could be on said EconoPakis' coujins' makkan or college in LaHore - or in Londonistan.

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Postby member_29218 » 23 Jan 2016 17:42

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Postby Peregrine » 23 Jan 2016 17:46

UlanBatori wrote:
Strange spectacle of UK’s "The Economist" making nice to India

Of course the mofos have to say
With more imagination than evidence..

When the truth is "With noses growing longer every word.."

So nothing has changed about the basic oiseuleness of The EconoPakist. What has changed maybe is the growing realization that the next TTP/ISI attack could be on said EconoPakis' coujins' makkan or college in LaHore - or in Londonistan.

UlanBatori Ji :

There is already a "High Alert" in Londonistan against the Terrorists followers of the World's Only Religion of Peace especially from the Land of the Pure and Home of the Terrorists.
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Postby Peregrine » 23 Jan 2016 18:08

Engagement with Pakistan is a walk on eggshells: M J Akbar

NEW DELHI: Any engagement with Pakistan is a walk on eggshells given the past experience remarked BJP spokesperson and RS MP M J Akbar on Saturday amid recent efforts by Delhi and Islamabad to resume Comprehensive Bilateral Dialogue on which Pathankot terror attacks though have put temporary brakes.

"There are Pakistanis who are beginning to appreciate the meaning of a "near enemy" and recognize that they are it. A common enemy is the best reason for creating a common front, although I would always add that the past shows that any engagement with Pakistan is a walk on eggshells," noted Akbar while delivering 10th R N Kao memorial lecture here. Kao, a legendary spymaster, was the founder of India's external intelligence agency Research and Analysis Wing.

Akbar, who spoke at length, while analyzing Caliphate versus Modernity drawing several historical references focused on Pakistan in the context of a state created on the basis of religion and Islamabad's conflict with Delhi. He said, "The conflict between India and Pakistan has now become, without anyone quite realizing it, the longest continual war in history. What is the conflict about? This not about geography but ideology. Kashmir is an alienable part of India precisely because it is Muslim, for the Indian Constitution does not discriminate on the basis of religion."

However, the senior journalist pointed out that the failure of Islam to keep Pakistan together in 1971 did nothing to weaken with Delhi. He said, "The conflict between India and Pakistan has now become, without anyone quite realizing it, the longest continual war in history. What is the conflict about? This not about geography but ideology. Kashmir is an alienable part of India precisely because it is Muslim, for the Indian Constitution does not discriminate on the basis of religion."

Akbar was quick to note that the conflation of Islam and nationalism has been a guarantee for instability, because religion has never been the basis for political unity anywhere, including in the history of Muslims. "Why else would there be 22 Arab nations?"

Referring to the rise of Daesh and Islamic State, Akbar pointed out that Daesh/IS does not recognize any borders, and not merely the ones imposed after 1918; or the nation state as a basis of international stability. "The Daesh Caliphate seeks to reinvent an age when one "Islamic power" ruled contiguous territory. It is perfectly logical, in its view, to expand its war into Afghanistan, and then, following the same logic, into Pakistan and India, against the "near enemy" and occupiers of Islamic space," noted the veteran columnist and author.

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Postby Falijee » 23 Jan 2016 18:33

'Facilitators behind BKU attack' revealed By" World's Best Army Spokesperson's ( ISPR) Press Conference " :mrgreen:
PESHAWAR: The 'facilitators behind Bacha Khan University attack' were revealed before reporters on Saturday, following a press conference held by Director-General Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Lieutenant-General Asim Bajwa.
The director general of the military's media wing shared (imaginary?) details of the probe into the January 20 brutal attack on the Bacha Khan University in Charsadda which had claimed at least 21 lives.
The press briefing began with a recorded telephone conversation between the 'terrorists and a reporter' with the militants claiming responsibility for the attack.
The reporter was receiving the call from a Pakistani phone while the call came from an Afghan phone and an Afghan sim, according to the DG ISPR who added that, "This attack involved four terrorists, all of whom were killed, and four accomplices."
So, to in order to justify his recent "promotion", he is going " all out" and "using "all the tools of public relations at his disposal" to "parade" the so-called culprits in front of the press :roll:
Lt-Gen Asim Bajwa said the terrorists did their preparations near Torkham checkpost area in Afghanistan, then they crossed the border using public transport and travelled to Mardan —looking like "common people".
Map of Mardan and Charsadda showing 'terrorist movement'. —DawnNews
He also presented a map of Mardan and Charsadda showing the alleged movement of the attackers.
"After entering Mardan, these terrorists were received by Adil and Riaz," the DG ISPR said while showing the location of the "two men's houses/hideouts on the Mardan-Charsadda road, where the terrorists were kept".
"Adil is a labourer. A few days ago he was doing some masonry work in the university, and made a map of the university so he could explain it to the attackers. And Adil is the one who helped the attackers figure out their way into the university." :((
The narration reads like a script straight from a movie ! The question, now is, will the Aam Abduls of Pakiland "buy" this version of events; remains to be seen !
The DG ISPR said that progress has also been made in identifying the finance trail, which he said will be shared once the investigation is complete.
"We have come to the conclusion that terrorism cannot be fought while there are accomplices and facilitators," Lt Gen Bajwa adding that, "terrorism is a problem being faced by the whole world, but all societies play their own role."
He also requested society to be aware of our surroundings. "All institutions must play their part, all societies must play their part."
Responding to a question the DG ISPR said that at no point had the Afghan government been blamed for the attack. "We only said that the attacked was planned and handled from Afghan soil."
But then, the "artificial border (Durand ) line", between the two countries is not recognized either by Afghanistan or the people living there!
"Even developed countries like United States have these challenges — look at the US-Mexico border. Our border management will improve with time, we are working on it. We are also talking to people in tribal agencies and asking them to remain vigilant."
Forced to be on the defensive; it is ridiculous to compare the situation to the US-Mexico border !
Chief of Army Staff Gen Raheel Sharif later telephoned Afghanistan President Ashraf Ghani and shared with him investigation details of of the BKU attack and also asked him to help in tracing the attackers.
General Raheel also shared the details of the attack with Afghan chief executive Abdullah Abdullah and commander of Resolute Support Mission and United States Forces in Afghanistan Gen John Campbell. ( more urgent need to "speed up" approval of the F-16s?)
Earlier in the day, the army chief chaired a 'special security meeting' at the Corps Headquarters, Peshawar, according to a statement issued by Director-General Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Lieutenant-General Asim Bajwa.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby brat » 23 Jan 2016 18:35

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Postby shiv » 23 Jan 2016 18:46

:(( :(( :(( :((
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Postby Mahendra » 23 Jan 2016 18:53

:rotfl: bakistan paindabutt

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Postby Shreeman » 23 Jan 2016 21:23

sure, when its raining raisins, you show up!

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Postby ramana » 23 Jan 2016 21:37

Engaging Pakistan is like walking on thorns.

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Postby Shreeman » 23 Jan 2016 22:06

Why? Does it tickle the toes?

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Postby Baikul » 23 Jan 2016 22:14

In Pee Fore 72 Virginians.

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Postby member_22733 » 23 Jan 2016 22:24

ramana wrote:Engaging Pakistan is like walking on thorns.



Indeed we as a nation should get the collective cure for the thorns while going to Bakistan, due to Bakistanis. Give peace a chance, destroy bakistan.

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Postby member_28042 » 23 Jan 2016 23:14

Many Many Happy returns of 72 !!!! Hope for more.

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After a long time
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Pakistan borrowed $1.42b in 3 months: Dar
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan borrowed a staggering $1.42 billion from foreign countries and financial institutions during the past three months.

Later on, replying to a question by Senator Tahir Mashadi about foreign reserves, Hamid stated that there were also loans which came prior to the loans signed during the last three months that added up to $2.568 billion.

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IB4TL. Where are the 72 pairs of Pindaliyon ka gudda? :((

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby KLNMurthy » 24 Jan 2016 02:45

ramana wrote:Engaging Pakistan is like walking on thorns.

No saar.

It is that dismaying squishy feeling you remember forever from your hawaii chappal-shod feet in a freshly laid product of Pakistan.

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Postby Falijee » 24 Jan 2016 04:32

Never thought hunting of Houbara Bustard would become ‘pillar of our foreign policy’: Imran Khan :lol:
ISLAMABAD (Web Desk) – Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan on Saturday said that he never thought that the hunting of endangered Houbara Bustard would become a pillar of our foreign policy.
“Never thought I would see the day when hunting of the endangered Houbara Bustard would become a pillar of our foreign policy”, Khan said on Twitter.(matter of Enchendee?)

Imran Khan also requested the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa government not to lift the ban on the hunting of rare bird.
But, is not the "Supreme Court", the "supreme" arbitrar in Pakiland :roll:
A provincial High Court in Balochistan in November 2014 cancelled all permits for hunting in the province, but the federal government headed by Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif — a close ally of Saudi Arabia — continued to issue licenses.
Last year, a three-member bench the Supreme Court banned hunting of the bird entirely, in a decision welcomed by wildlife campaigners.
Why go through the supreme court farce, when everyone knows that the Pakis cannot (financially ) afford to annoy their Maa Baap
In a judgement issued Friday, the court said it had set aside its original decision to ban hunting of the bird and that petitions on the issue would be listed for fresh hearings.
This is not the first time that the Pakis are trying to give an impression to the world that they are a society where citizens can file lawsuits against the government :mrgreen:

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Postby Falijee » 24 Jan 2016 05:16

Pakistan Diplomat Hails "Pillar Of Foreign Policy" :lol:
ISLAMABAD:
A senior Pakistani diplomat posted in an Arab country hailed on Saturday the Supreme Court’s decision to lift the ban on the hunting of houbara bustard, saying it would greatly help the government in improving bilateral diplomatic ties with Gulf countries.
So, life will become a bit easy now, for this Paki "diplomat"!
“It is good news for our foreign office to offer hunting of houbara bustard to dignitaries from Gulf countries,” the official said while requesting anonymity. (why "hiding" hain jee?, "afraid" of Immy ?)
In October last year, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in a review petition filed in the apex court maintained that “inviting Arabs to hunt houbara bustard in different parts of the country is a pillar of foreign policy”. :roll: (only in Pakistan !)
The royal guests are also known for presenting expensive gifts bribes to senior police and civil bureaucrats for their hospitality during the hunting season.
According to a senior security official, a few individuals from a Gulf country were found responsible for providing financial assistance to a Baloch tribal chief and militants in return for security provided to them in remote areas of Balochistan. (insurance against getting kidnapped and creating an "international incident "; so the funding for Balochistan freedom fighters is not coming from RAA, but the brotherly Ummahs in the Gulf :shock:
The foreign dignitaries brought with them considerable finances which were exclusively used for the development of the people in the areas where hunting takes place, the review petition had pleaded.
Like building airstrips, palaces and roads to indulge in this sport which increases their libido and also spoils the natural habitat of these areas !

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Postby member_22733 » 24 Jan 2016 05:23

Once the Bustards go the way of the Dodo, they will have Baloch kids dress up as Hubara bustards

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Postby Viv S » 24 Jan 2016 05:26

Back from the enemy country

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RARELY are Pakistanis allowed to cross their eastern border. We are told that’s so because on the other side is the enemy. Visa restrictions ensure that only the slightest trickle of people flows in either direction. Hence ordinary academics like me rarely get to interact with their Indian counterparts. But an invitation to speak at the Hyderabad Literary Festival, and the fortuitous grant of a four-city non-police reporting visa, led to my 11-day 12-lecture marathon at Indian universities, colleges, and various public places. This unusual situation leads me here to share sundry observations.

At first blush, it seemed I hadn’t travelled far at all. My first public colloquium was delivered in Urdu at the Maulana Azad National Urdu University (MANUU) in Hyderabad. With most females in burqa, and most young men bearing beards, MANUU is more conservative in appearance than any Urdu university (there are several) on the Pakistani side.

Established in 1998, it seeks to “promote and develop the Urdu language and to impart education and training in vocational and technical subjects”. Relative to its Pakistani counterparts, it is better endowed in terms of land, infrastructure and resources.

But there’s a still bigger difference: this university’s students are largely graduates of Indian madressahs while almost all university students in Pakistan come from secular schools. Thus, MANUU’s development of video “bridge courses” in Urdu must be considered as a significant effort to teach English and certain marketable skills to those with only religious training. I am not aware of any comparable programme in Pakistan. Shouldn’t we over here be asking how the surging output of Pakistani madressahs is to be handled? Why have we abandoned efforts to help those for whom secular schooling was never a choice?

To my embarrassment, I was unable to fulfil my host’s request to recommend good introductory textbooks in Urdu from Pakistan. But how could I? Such books don’t exist and probably never will. Although I give science lectures as often in Urdu as English, the books I use are only in English. Somehow Pakistan never summoned the necessary vigour for transplanting modern ideas into Urdu. The impetus for this has been lost forever. Urdu, as the language of Islam in undivided India, once had enormous political significance. Education in Urdu was demanded by the Muslim League as a reason for wanting Pakistan!

A little down the road lies a different world. At the Indian Institute of Information Technology (IIIT) the best and brightest of India’s young, selected after cut-throat competition, are engaged in a furious race to the top. IIIT-H boasts that its fresh graduates have recently been snapped up with fantastic Rs1.5 crore (Indian) salaries by corporate entities such as Google and Facebook.

This face of modern India is equally visible at the various Indian Institutes of Technology (IIT), whose numbers have exploded from four to 18. They are the showpieces of Indian higher education. I spoke at three — Bombay, Gandhinagar, and Delhi — and was not disappointed. But some Indian academics feel otherwise.

Engineering education at the IITs, says Prof Raghubir Sahran of IIT-GN, has remained “mainly mimetic of foreign models (like MIT) and captive to the demands of the market and corporate agendas”. My physicist friend, Prof Deshdeep Sahdev, agrees. He left IIT-K to start his own company that now competes with Hewlett Packard in making tunnelling electron microscopes and says IIT students are strongly drill-oriented, not innovative.

Still, even if the IITs are not top class, they are certainly good. Why has Pakistan failed in making its own version of the IITs? One essential condition is openness to the world of ideas. This mandates the physical presence of foreign visitors.

Indeed, on Indian campuses one sees a large number of foreigners — American, European, Japanese, and Chinese.

They come for short visits as well as long stays, enriching universities and research centres.

Not so in Pakistan where foreigners are a rarity, to be regarded with suspicion. For example, at the National Centre for Physics, which is nominally a part of Quaid-i-Azam University but is actually ‘owned’ by the Strategic Plans Division (the custodian of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons), academic visitors are so tightly restricted that they seek to flee their jails soon after arrival.

Those who came from Canada, Turkey and Iran to a recent conference at the NCP protested in writing and privately told us that they would never want to come back.

Tensions between secular and religious forces appear high in Modi’s India. Although an outsider cannot accurately judge the extent, I saw sparks fly when Nayantara Sahgal, the celebrated novelist who was the first of 35 Indian intellectuals to hand back their government awards, shared the stage with the governor of Andhra Pradesh and Telangana. After she spoke on the threats to writers, the murder of three Indian rationalists, and the lynching of a Muslim man falsely accused of possessing beef, the enraged governor threw aside his prepared speech and excoriated her for siding with terrorists.

Hindutva ideology has put the ‘scientific temper’ of Nehruvian times under visible stress. My presentations on science and rationality sometimes resulted in a number of polite, but obviously unfriendly, comments from the audience.

Legitimate cultural pride over path-breaking achievements of ancient Hindu scholars is being seamlessly mixed with pseudoscience. Shockingly, an invited paper at the recent Indian Science Congress claimed that Lord Shiva was the world’s greatest environmentalist. Another delegate blew on a ‘conch’ shell for a full two minutes because it would exercise the rectal muscles of Congress delegates!

Pakistan and India may be moving along divergent paths of development but their commonalities are becoming more accentuated as well. Engaging with the other is vital — and certainly possible.

Although I sometimes took unpopular political positions at no point did I, as a Pakistani, experience hostility. The mature response of both governments to the Pathankot attack gives hope that Pakistan and India might yet learn to live with each other as normal neighbours. This in spite of the awful reality that terrorism is here to stay.

The writer teaches physics and mathematics in Lahore and Islamabad.

Published in Dawn, January 23rd, 2016

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

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Tensions between secular and religious forces appear high in Modi’s India. Although an outsider cannot accurately judge


And this Pervez of Djinn Physics fame figured this out in 4 days while running between 12 different places? admirable.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2

Postby Vayutuvan » 24 Jan 2016 05:49

IBTL (get my post count up while the going is good).

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