I do not know, but I think they are saying This Momin is greater than combined Zukov, Patton and Rommel!LokeshC wrote: What is going on here? Obviously looks like the gernails grandiose delusions are being satiated, but I am curious as to the occassion.
This is a video of that event (login required). That university has more guts that all of IndiaSSridhar wrote:Dhaka University cuts ties with Pak. - Haroon Habib, The HinduDhaka University, the premier university of Bangladesh, has decided to cut all relations with Pakistan.
Announcing this on Monday, vice-chancellor the university, Prof. AAMS Arefin Siddique, said “the decision on cutting ties with Pakistan was taken in a syndicate meeting as Pakistan denied the atrocities committed during Bangladesh’s Liberation War.” He also demanded the government to sever ties with Pakistan unless Islamabad provides an unconditional apology for the crimes it committed in 1971. {AoA}
The university took the decision on a day when Bangladesh observed Intellectual Martyrs Day in memory of the intellectuals who had fallen victims to the Pakistani military regime and its local collaborators. On December 14, 1971, the Pakistani occupation forces and their cohorts had killed university teachers, doctor and writers after picking them up from their homes in Dhaka.
Gautam,g.sarkar wrote: I do not know, but I think they are saying This Momin is greater than combined Zukov, Patton and Rommel!
Gautam
for a General who hasn't seen action !In his strongest commitment yet on engaging with Pakistan, Prime Minister Narendra Modi has said that India is trying to `turn the course of history' by bringing an end to terrorism and promoting peace and stability in the region.
Speaking to top military commanders on board the INS Vikramaditya aircraft carrier, Modi has said that India is living in a difficult neighbourhood but is engaging Pakistan as part of a series of measure in the region with neighbours.
"We are engaging Pakistan to try and turn the course of history, bring an end to terrorism, build peaceful relations, advance cooperation and promote stability and prosperity in our region," the PM has said.
While he has cautioned that there are many challenges on the path, the peace effort is worth it as the future of `our children is at stake'. "So, we will test their intentions to define the path ahead. For this, we have started a new NSA-level dialogue to bring security experts face to face with each other," the PM said.
In his address at the combined commanders conference, Modi however asserted that India will never drop its guard on security and will "judge progress on their commitments on terrorism". The PM also spelled out several Pak centric security concerns for India.
"We see terrorism and ceasefire violations; reckless nuclear build up and threats; border transgressions; and, continuing military modernization and expansion. The shadow of West Asian instability is becoming longer," he said.
A coalition of Muslim nations will form a joint operations room in Riyadh to combat terrorism in Islamic countries, in the first coordinated Muslim military effort to combat extremism.
The military coalition includes 34 nations and is backed by 10 others, Saudi Arabia’s Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, who is also the kingdom’s defense minister, said in a televised press conference Tuesday. The coalition includes Jordan, the United Arab Emirates, Pakistan, Morocco, Bangladesh and Turkey, according to the official Saudi Press Agency.
The grouping of Muslim nations will confront any terrorist threat, including Islamic State, and coordinate with “globally important countries and international organizations,” he said.
The decision to form the coalition is part of a broader effort by Saudi Arabia to establish itself as the leader of the Sunni Muslim world’s battle against terrorism. It’s unclear how such a coalition would function across the Islamic world and if countries would allow it to conduct military operations within their own borders.
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Quoting from thisA_Gupta wrote:BTW, this train of thought was provoked by this essay, on a different topic,
http://witness-to-our-times.org/2015/12 ... n-freedom/
This is in the context of the Saudi forming a coalition to "fight terror". While India and the rest of the world were horrified by the violence and terror caused by these criminals, the self-description of the terrorists – as avengers for the repressed Muslims of India, particularly in Kashmir – was hardly discussed, let alone accepted. There was no talk of a ‘War of Civilizations’, except by the American press. Barring a few exceptions, no columnist or commentator, no eyewitness, Mumbaikar or otherwise, described 26/11 as an attack on something integral and abstract. There are hardly any descriptions to be found of 26/11 as an attack on Indian values, or as an assault on the Indian way of life – not in 2008, and not in the seven years since.
On the other hand, the Paris attack is described as exactly that: an assault on European values, on the ‘universal values’ Europe has given to humankind, on the European way of life, and on the freedom that Europe embodies. Citizens, politicians, and the media may disagree on how to react to this assault, but they stand united in their descriptions of it. In this ‘conversation’, there is another partner – IS. While IS and the West resent each other, they seem to agree on many fronts. IS describes itself as an Islamic State; the West discusses a ‘Clash of Civilizations’. IS fighters describe themselves as religious warriors; the Western media air discussions on the problem of ‘fanaticism’ and ‘radical Islam’. IS describes concertgoers at the Bataclan as “hundreds of pagans gathered for a concert of prostitution and vice”; people in Paris organize a “giant orgy Republic Square”, proclaiming “Yes, we are idolaters and perverts.”
Look like terrorists have their own coalition to fight those who are fighting terrorists.Uttam wrote:Cross-posted.....
BREAKING NEWS: Terrorism sponsors form a anti-terror coalition
Muslim Nations Form First Islamic Coalition Against TerrorismA coalition of Muslim nations will form a joint operations room in Riyadh to combat terrorism in Islamic countries, in the first coordinated Muslim military effort to combat extremism.
The military coalition includes 34 nations and is backed by 10 others, Saudi Arabia’s Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, who is also the kingdom’s defense minister, said in a televised press conference Tuesday. The coalition includes Jordan, the United Arab Emirates, Pakistan, Morocco, Bangladesh and Turkey, according to the official Saudi Press Agency.
The grouping of Muslim nations will confront any terrorist threat, including Islamic State, and coordinate with “globally important countries and international organizations,” he said.
The decision to form the coalition is part of a broader effort by Saudi Arabia to establish itself as the leader of the Sunni Muslim world’s battle against terrorism. It’s unclear how such a coalition would function across the Islamic world and if countries would allow it to conduct military operations within their own borders.
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shiv wrote:First jhumkas. Then choodiyan.Jhujar wrote:
Pakistan on Tuesday successfully test fired Sheeheen 1A ballistic missile, the military’s media wing Inter Services Public Relations said.The flight test was aimed at re-validating several design and technical parameters of the weapon system, ISPR added. Shaheen1A is capable of delivering different types of warheads to a range of 900 killo meters.Pakistan successfully taste fires Shaheen-III missile.“Today’s launch with impact point in Arabian Sea was witnessed by senior officers from Strategic Plans Division, strategic forces, scientists and engineers of strategic organizations,” the statement added.He said Shaheen-1A with its sophisticated and advanced guidance system makes it a highly accurate missile system, reiterating Pakistan’s strategic capabilities are based on Credible Minimum Deterrence and desire for peaceful co-existence in the region.
Lekin ..Lekin don't forget the NUCLEAR power angle .. the final version, after all the makeup is here:shiv wrote:
First jhumkas. Then choodiyan.
In the same rag there is a historically accurate story about formation of Bangladesh with a photo of the surrender to boot.Falijee wrote:Pakistan discusses plight of Muslims and other minorities in India
And Hindu citizens of Pakistan, request Indian Govt to grant them resident visa, so they are spared of returning back to their home in the "Land Of the Pure"
Thanks for doing it!SSridhar wrote: The American analyst Toby Dalton (in association with Michael Krepon) propagates the usual American 'security' model along with that Pakistani Sameer Lalwani while Gaurav Kampani explains the 'civilizational' aspect.
The weak defense put out by the Pakistani Sameer Lalwani and his demeanour of presentation were interesting by contrast. He was pathetic and his furious pace of delivery hides his insecurity, I thought.
I made a rough transcript below......
There is the Comprehensive Convention on International Terrorism -- CCIT -- in the UN, that is currently deadlocked, as far as I know. Proposed by India in 1996, the deadlock is about the definition of terrorism. The deadlock is between India and most of the world versus the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), as far as I know. The sticking point is apparently that the OIC wants an exception in case of foreign occupation.Uttam wrote:Cross-posted.....
BREAKING NEWS: Terrorism sponsors form a anti-terror coalition
Muslim Nations Form First Islamic Coalition Against Terrorism
I suppose 1., 2., 5., 6., 7. would be not done or greatly reduced in case Pakistan is seen solely as a security-seeking state.Karan M wrote: IMHO to deter Pakistan
This is the most important. Elect nationalist Govts which accept there is a civilizational conflict and India must win. Not muddle around.
Then:
1. Conventional build up & periodic usage (eg LOC fire assaults/local dominance). This also means continued focus on local MIC. No country won a long term war by relying on imports
2. Strategic Build up (deters TSP adventurism or thoughts they can win by a sudden strike)
3. Ties with 3.5 states to ensure their support to TSP declines or reduces.
4. Economic growth continues.
5. Covert ops accelerated
6. Support for TSP centrifugal elements - Balochis, Sindhis, Mohajirs
7. Out & out acts which constantly "suppress" aspirations of Pak deep state aka military state. Appeasement won't work. We'll just pander to a monster. Eg we should sanction any firm which supplies weapons to TSP or tie it to broader ties as a matter of policy.
8. Strong internal security. No excuses accepted coordination between state/central agencies to go after the jihadi-overground worker nexus.
What is that saying about beggars and choosersPakistan surprised by its inclusion in military alliance
The Islamic Republic of Pakistan, at least the Civilian Bureaucracy portion, says surprised to read the news that Saudi Arabia had named Pakistan as part of the 34-nation military alliance of 9Sunni?) Mohammadden countries meant to combat (Shia?) Mohammadden terrorism.Uttam wrote:Cross-posted.....
BREAKING NEWS: Terrorism sponsors form a anti-terror coalition
Muslim Nations Form First Islamic Coalition Against Terrorism
A coalition of Muslim nations will form a joint operations room in Riyadh to combat terrorism in Islamic countries, in the first coordinated Muslim military effort to combat extremism.
The military coalition includes 34 nations and is backed by 10 others, Saudi Arabia’s Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, who is also the kingdom’s defense minister, said in a televised press conference Tuesday. The coalition includes Jordan, the United Arab Emirates, Pakistan, Morocco, Bangladesh and Turkey, according to the official Saudi Press Agency.
The grouping of Muslim nations will confront any terrorist threat, including Islamic State, and coordinate with “globally important countries and international organizations,” he said.
The decision to form the coalition is part of a broader effort by Saudi Arabia to establish itself as the leader of the Sunni Muslim world’s battle against terrorism. It’s unclear how such a coalition would function across the Islamic world and if countries would allow it to conduct military operations within their own borders. ..................................
From Dawn at the below weblink:Pakistan surprised by its inclusion in military alliance
Baqir Sajjad Syed — Published about 4 hours ago
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan found itself in the crosshairs of Middle Eastern politics on Tuesday as Saudi Arabia named it as part of its newly formed 34-nation military alliance of Muslim countries meant to combat terrorism, without first getting its consent.
Talking to journalists, Foreign Secretary Aizaz Chaudhry said he was surprised to read the news that Saudi Arabia had named Pakistan as part of the alliance.
He said he had asked the country’s ambassador in Riyadh to get a clarification from Saudi Arabia on the matter.
Another senior official also confirmed that Pakistan was not consulted before inclusion in the alliance.
Arabian Master's sense of humor or telling persians that Paki are back stabbing Sinkholes.arun wrote:The Islamic Republic of Pakistan, at least the Civilian Bureaucracy portion, says surprised to read the news that Saudi Arabia had named Pakistan as part of the 34-nation military alliance of 9Sunni?) Mohammadden countries meant to combat (Shia?) Mohammadden terrorism.
2.The Saudi Arabian’s accidently letting slip the secret involvement of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan in a Sunni Military coalition which has as its principle unstated aim, the aim of nobbling Shia Mohammadden Iran in order to prevent an sectarian fall out within the Islamic Republic?
yad El-Baghdadi @iyad_elbaghdadi 4 hours ago
The "anti-terror coalition" was declared seemingly unilaterally by Saudi deputy crown prince (and defense minister) Mohammad bin Salman.
http://www.businessinsider.my/bnd-repor ... xjDxtX1.97Iyad El-Baghdadi @iyad_elbaghdadi now17 hours ago
Mohammad bin Salman has been the subject of controversy recently, after a German intelligence report pointed fingers directly at him:
Since Muhammad bin Nayef and Mohammad bin Salman were name Crown Prince and Deputy Crown Prince respectively, there has been some discussion as to who is likely to inherit the throne.
The debate has informed the Royal Bank of Canada’s views that the internal political struggles in Saudi Arabia may have more widespread ramifications. Helima Croft, Managing Director and Chief Commodities Strategist of RBC Capital Markets, LLC, released a note addressing the same: “Since Salman ascended to the throne in January, the outsized influence of his favorite son, Deputy Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman (MBS), has reportedly been a primary driver of discontent within the royal family. The young prince, who is thought to be between the ages of 29 and 32, controls some of the most prized political real estate in the country despite having a shorter resume than many of his older relatives. Not only is MBS in the immediate line of succession as Deputy Crown Prince, he is the world’s youngest defense minister, Chair of the Council on Economic and Development Affairs, and Head of the Supreme Council for Saudi Aramco.”
The Foreign Secretary has clearly exceeded his brief. Foreign Affairs is not in the remit of a Pakistani Foreign Secretary. That is in the realm of the military. About 2 months back, the COAS, Gen. Raheel Sharif visited Riyadh and was given a grand welcome including by King Salman bin Abdul Aziz. His entire set of courtiers was present too. The audience lasted several hours.arun wrote:Pakistan surprised by its inclusion in military alliance
Talking to journalists, Foreign Secretary Aizaz Chaudhry said he was surprised to read the news that Saudi Arabia had named Pakistan as part of the alliance.
He said he had asked the country’s ambassador in Riyadh to get a clarification from Saudi Arabia on the matter.
Another senior official also confirmed that Pakistan was not consulted before inclusion in the alliance.
India should solve cashmere.partha wrote:Now that Moody Govt has finalized bullet train project, expect a few op-eds in Paki press with the following themes -
1) Nawaz Shariff has failed to revive Pakistan Railways and that Pakistan should build high speed trains.
2) Moody Govt has got its priorities wrong. When 99% Indians are living on less than 1 cent a day, Govt should focus on fixing poverty.
3) Bullet trains will not solve India's intolerance problem.
A few news headlines like -
1) Chinese Railway company to conduct feasibility study of Karachi-Lahore bullet train project; promises $100B loan at 0% interest.
2) Water and power resources minister Khwaja Asif says Pakistan will build mini bullet trains by 2022.
Peregrine ji, read the comments.However, the project faces the challenge of terrorism today. Unless the pipeline is secured from the Taliban that operates on both sides of the Durand Line, and from militant groups operating in Pakistan, it is hard to see how the TAPI dream can go beyond the groundbreaking ceremony. “By coming this far, we are overcoming a history of doubt and scepticism,” said Afghanistan President Ashraf Ghani at the ceremony. Certainly, the fact that the TAPI, pushed by Turkmen President Gurbanguly Berdimohamedov, was able to bring leaders of three countries with relations as complicated as India, Pakistan and Afghanistan share is itself remarkable. To envisage a $10 billion project that traverses all three countries with all the bad blood between Afghanistan and Pakistan, and Pakistan and India, is ambitious as well. If it can manage to loosen the tight bonds between terror groups and their sponsors in Pakistan, who ought to see where their own interests lie, it will achieve the impossible; something no amount of pressure, cajoling and threat from India, Afghanistan and other countries has been able to effect in Pakistan thus far. The only way the project will be actualised is if the leadership of all four member-countries don’t just dwell on the world that exists today, but the region as it can be: connected, cooperative, peaceful and prosperous.
That's surprising for a "The Hindu" editorial. I would have expected The Hindu to advise Govt to whole heartedly go ahead with TAPI for the sake of peace in South Asia.SSridhar wrote:Edit on the TAPI Project,'Peace in the Pipeline' - The HinduPeregrine ji, read the comments.However, the project faces the challenge of terrorism today. Unless the pipeline is secured from the Taliban that operates on both sides of the Durand Line, and from militant groups operating in Pakistan, it is hard to see how the TAPI dream can go beyond the groundbreaking ceremony. “By coming this far, we are overcoming a history of doubt and scepticism,” said Afghanistan President Ashraf Ghani at the ceremony. Certainly, the fact that the TAPI, pushed by Turkmen President Gurbanguly Berdimohamedov, was able to bring leaders of three countries with relations as complicated as India, Pakistan and Afghanistan share is itself remarkable. To envisage a $10 billion project that traverses all three countries with all the bad blood between Afghanistan and Pakistan, and Pakistan and India, is ambitious as well. If it can manage to loosen the tight bonds between terror groups and their sponsors in Pakistan, who ought to see where their own interests lie, it will achieve the impossible; something no amount of pressure, cajoling and threat from India, Afghanistan and other countries has been able to effect in Pakistan thus far. The only way the project will be actualised is if the leadership of all four member-countries don’t just dwell on the world that exists today, but the region as it can be: connected, cooperative, peaceful and prosperous.
That's like ISIS worrying about Al Qaeda's terror.The volume of gas to be made available to Pakistan is enough to plug just under a quarter of our total present-day natural gas deficit.
The latter is likely to grow by the time the first gas begins to flow. Even though the ceremony has raised hopes for a partial solution to this country’s energy woes, it is still a good idea to keep in mind that the project has substantial question marks hanging over it since the route passes through Afghanistan, where the outlook on the security situation is fluid.
partha wrote:...
That's like ISIS worrying about Al Qaeda's terror.
Hasan Hafidh @HasHafidh now8 hours ago
It's ironic this bogus "34-state Islamic coalition against extremism" excluded 4 Muslim-maj states that just so happen not to be Sunni-led..
