Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2016

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Postby Falijee » 28 May 2016 17:45

The dangerous duality
The death of Taliban leader Akhtar Mansour in a US drone strike on May 21 in a remote part of Balochistan has dramatically underlined the terrorist challenge that Pakistan still faces, and of which Pakistan is still living in denial of, as the official response to the latest drone attack has amply demonstrated.
It has been almost an open secret that the leadership of Taliban insurgency in Afghanistan is based in Pakistan.
Pakistan’s Sartaj Aziz, adviser to the Prime Minister on foreign policy, removed every doubt in this regard a few months back when he publicly accepted the fact that top Afghan Taliban and their families reside in Pakistan and enjoy certain facilities.
Probably using Pakistani passports for international traveling has been part of these facilities.
Since the Taliban “ Emirate” revolve around their Ameer (the leader) so the main center of their system is the place where their Ameer lives.
We all know that after the public confirmation of the news about Mulla Omar’s death the succession ceremony was held at Kuchlak, a small town outside Quetta where Akhtar Mansour was appointed as Ameer to replace Mulla Omar.
Reports about the presence of Molvi Haibatullah Akhunzada, their third and latest Ameer, in the area had appeared in the media more than once during the last one year.
Not only that, but the main decision making council of Afghan Taliban is called Quetta Shura because this body is based in Balochistan capital for the last many years.
Interestingly this practice has continued even at a time when Taliban are supposed to be controlling areas inside Afghanistan.
The problem with Pakistan’s Afghan policy for long years has been its dangerous duality.
The powerless foreign office and civilian leaders talk about friendship and good neighborly relations with Afghanistan, but security agencies of the country that actually formulate and implement the policy are hell bent on imposing the Taliban on Afghanistan.
Many people in Pakistan do not realise that Afghan Taliban are for Afghanistan what TTP is for Pakistan because the state narrative has fed a distorted picture to them for a long time.
Confused by distortions and disinformation many people in Pakistan do not realise that Taliban have not only attracted the induction of international troops in Afghanistan by stationing foreign terrorists there but they have also successfully subverted the plan for withdrawal of ISAF forces from Afghanistan with a cut off date by the end of 2016.
But they could not have acted differently because the anti-state fight has been part of their very design.
Taliban ideology on both sides of the Durand Line is aimed at fighting all forms of modern state system.
By now it is quite clear that liquidation of the Afghan republic and imposing a totalitarian system is their main agenda.
It should not have been difficult for Pakistanis to understand this because that is exactly what Taliban did in Swat and FATA when they controlled these areas.
Bringing down the Pakistani flag was the first thing which they did after achieving ascendency in these areas.
But spreading the official narrative Pakistani media, the electronic media in particular, has focused on projecting Afghan Taliban as “heroes of the resistance movement “, and different from the Pakistani Taliban.
They simply hide their common ideological roots and their common oath of allegiance to the same Ameer.
This obfuscation is continuing, otherwise how could Sarfaraz Bugti, the Provincial Interior Minister of Balochistan have used indecent language against hapless Afghan refugees without explaining his position on the presence of Taliban Shura in Quetta under his nose.
Most of the drone attacks in the past had taken place in FATA but that area was regarded by all and sundry for historical and geographical reasons as a natural extension for the military conflict in Afghanistan.
The US drone attack on Akhtar Mansour in Balochistan, the first of its kind, represents the end of Balochistan as safe heaven for Afghan Taliban.
It is difficult to say whether this significant shift in US policy is registered in Pakistan or not.
Interestingly there has not been any talk about an investigation into the presence of Afghan Taliban leadership in Pakistan.
Although social media has been full of criticism of the pro-Taliban policy of the security establishment of Pakistan, mainstream media has not seen the type of debate about the dangerous duality in the country’s Afghan policy, which one would have expected in the wake of such a debacle.
This is particularly so because there is almost a general consensus among political parties about normalising relations with neighboring countries.
The pro-Taliban policy has no future for obvious reasons but the question is will
This is particularly so because there is almost a general consensus among political parties about normalising relations with neighboring countries.
But at the same time the political leadership seem to have totally given up on the country’s Afghan policy.
This should be a matter of concern for all sensible people in the country as the aforementioned Afghan policy has not only politically isolated Pakistan but has also put her on a collision course with a number of countries.
It is only due to this policy that Pakistan is regarded a hub of terrorism despite the large-scale heroic sacrifices given by Pakistanis in the fight against terror.
Good article by someone in the know !

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Postby SSridhar » 28 May 2016 18:33

^ Duality and duplicity have been the pillars of the Pakistani Establishment, and before the creation of 'The Establishment', that of the cabal that created Pakistan.

When OBL was killed at Abbotabad, there were no voices against the military hiding him in their cantonment, rather, there was anger against the US action. When Mansour is killed, again nobody questions Sartaj Aziz why he has allowed the Rahbari Shura terrorists and their families to stay safely in Pakistan thereby inviting the Americans to violate the sovereignty. Rather, the anger (much muted though, this time) is against violation of sovereignty.

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Postby Gagan » 28 May 2016 19:30

So nawaz will undergo a coronary artery bypass surgery? This is not open heart surgery, the rage of the day seems to be the off pump bypass with an octopus
One does wonder of nawaz has suffered multiple mini strokes resulting in 'vascular dementia'. For a Pakistani PM to be forgetting his 'taller than mountains...' lines is an unpardonable crime, yet nawaz forgot that line!
Something else has also happened, he's too young to have alzheimer's
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Postby Shaktimaan » 28 May 2016 19:31

Why do we always hear about Pakis having to go abroad (to the west or even India) for medical treatment? I thought they were a very advanced TFTA country hain ji?

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Postby CRamS » 28 May 2016 19:34

Interesting exchange between ex ISI thug Durrani, and slimy CIA spooke about TSP's double game. Instead of hitting the Paki hard, it turns out to be more of mutual love fest

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/upf ... 47415.html

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Postby SSridhar » 28 May 2016 20:00

CRamS wrote:Interesting exchange between ex ISI thug Durrani, and slimy CIA spooke about TSP's double game. Instead of hitting the Paki hard, it turns out to be more of mutual love fest

CRS, that is because that's what both of them did together for 60 years and continue to do even as we write this. They are well & truly made for each other.

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Postby Falijee » 28 May 2016 20:31

Ganja Sharif Illness And Related News!

PM Nawaz overseeing state affairs from London: PM House
Is that not going to increase his anxiety and stress levels ? :roll:


Ex-CJ calls for appointment of acting PM to avoid crisis

Corrupt Ex CJ Of Pakiland Iftikhar Chaudry ( of Suo-Motu fame ) weighs In On Nawaz's Illness; does not want Ganja's relative, Finance Minister, Ishtiaq Dar to take charge :roll:

Prayers offered in US for PM Sharif’s successful operation, early recovery

IMO, Massaland was Immy Territory :roll:

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Postby RCase » 28 May 2016 21:09

Shaktimaan wrote:Why do we always hear about Pakis having to go abroad (to the west or even India) for medical treatment? I thought they were a very advanced TFTA country hain ji?

I guess most of their doctors end up as TV talk show hosts or security strategy analysts.

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Postby rsingh » 28 May 2016 21:54

^^^ :rotfl: :rotfl:

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Postby Falijee » 29 May 2016 00:11

Govt okays rubber -stamps Rs. 132 billion hike in defense spending[*]
[*] on orders from Paki Fauj (with no corresponding input from Ganja's cabinet! )
Like, everything else in Pakiland, looks good on paper but the 132 billion rupees question is where is the money coming from ? :mrgreen:
ISLAMABAD (Web Desk) – The government has decided to raise Rs 132 billion in the defense budget.
According to details, federal government has decided to increase the defense budget from Rs 788 billion to Rs 920 billion.
According to sources, the decision was made in view of the fight against terrorism and the Indian military ambitions (India angle is always there )
Hope World Bank/IMF are not cheated out of their interest payments- again :mrgreen:
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Postby Falijee » 29 May 2016 00:22

Facilitators of Wali Muhammad alias Mullah Mansoor arrested- Times Of Islamabad
ISLAMABAD: Two alleged facilitators involved in issuing Pakistan CNIC to Taliban leader Wali Muhammad alias Mullah Mansoor have been arrested by security forces here at today. Mullah Mansoor Akhtar was killed by USA in drone strike in Baluchistan few days ago.As per details, Two alleged facilitators Levies Personnel Aziz Ahmad and NADRA Personnel Riffat Iqbal have been detained by security forces over their alleged involvement in issuing National Identity Card to Wali Muhammad.
Riffat Iqbal has been arrested over the allegation of issuing ID Card to Wali Muhammad when appointed in Quetta while Levies Personnel was arrested over the attestation of his ID Card.
Sources said that Riffat Iqbal name was included in Exit Control List and she was arrested by FIA after conducting raid in Karachi.
In other words, there was no Deep State Shenanigans in all of this and ISI was caught unawares ?
How long can they keep up this pretense and bury their head in the sand and be in a denial mode ?

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Postby Gagan » 29 May 2016 01:47

Pak fauj crore commanders must be happy. Instead of all that money going to the fizzelya for Eff solahs, now that money will go to them to buy super duper fully loaded golf carts, camping buses, imported staff cars, and some of it in bank accounts for fees for the war of terror thay've been involved in

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Postby sudhan » 29 May 2016 09:51

Shaktimaan wrote:Why do we always hear about Pakis having to go abroad (to the west or even India) for medical treatment? I thought they were a very advanced TFTA country hain ji?


The doctors also end up as expert consultants for airport construction projects.

So you see, a pressing need exists for more doctors which is why the world famous Axxact needs to be brought back to solve all of Paki problems... Also the world needs to compensate pakistan for the 300 trillion dollah economic loss by giving it free eff solahs, Nuke subs, SLBMs, NSG membership, a gleaming new begging bowl and interest free IMF loans to sit in it.

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Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2016

Postby Peregrine » 29 May 2016 15:34

Nuclear-armed Pakistan can 'target' Delhi in 5 minutes: Abdul Qadeer Khan Also AQK can kiss his personal Antipodes "Good Bye"

ISLAMABAD: Nuclear-armed Pakistan has the ability to "target" the Indian capital Delhi in five minutes, the father of Pakistan's nuclear programme Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan has said.

Addressing a gathering here on the 18th anniversary of Pakistan's first nuclear tests, which were carried out under his supervision in 1998, Khan, said Pakistan could have become a nuclear power as early as 1984 but the then President General Zia ul Haq "opposed the move".

The 80-year-old nuclear physicist said General Zia, who was Pakistan's President from 1978 to 1988, opposed the nuclear testing as he believed that the world would intervene militarily.

Further, it would have also curtailed international aid Pakistan was receiving due to the ongoing Soviet occupation of Afghanistan.

"We were able and we had a plan to launch nuclear test in 1984. But President General Zia ul Haq had opposed the move," Khan said on Saturday.

Khan also said that Pakistan has the ability to "target" Delhi from Kahuta near Rawalpindi in five minutes.

Kahuta is the home to the Kahuta Research Laboratories (KRL), Pakistan's key uranium enrichment facility, linked to the atomic bomb project.

Khan was disgraced in 2004 when he was forced to accept responsibility for nuclear technology proliferation and was forced to live a life of official house arrest. In 2009, the Islamabad high court declared Khan to be a free citizen of Pakistan, allowing him free movement inside the country.

He regretted and said Pakistan would never have achieved the feat of becoming first Muslim nuclear country without his "services".

"Without my services Pakistan would never have been the first Muslim nuclear nation. We were able to achieve the capability under very tough circumstances, but we did it," said Khan.

Referring to the treatment meted out to him during Gen Pervez Musharraf's era, Khan said nuclear scientists in the country have not been given the respect that they deserve.

"We are facing the worst against our services to the country's nuclear programme," he added.

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Postby Falijee » 29 May 2016 16:05

No Rest For The Wicked( PM ) :roll:
PM to oversee govt affairs from London
ISLAMABAD/WASHINGTON: Prime Minister Muhammad Nawaz Sharif is overseeing government affairs from London and his principal secretary, military secretary and other staff are helping him in this regard, the PM Office media wing said on Saturday.
"Nawaz is being kept abreast of the routine matters of the country and his directives are accordingly conveyed to the quarters concerned," said the statement.
"The prime minister is in constant contact with the federal ministers, cabinet members and other concerned.
Item in the news more likely to give the impression- to the Aam Abduls - of a hard working PM who in spite of his fragile health is working hard; wonder what his British Doctors are thinking in all of this ?
"It is, however, natural and understandable that the prime minister will be off from any activities when he is actually on the operating table. :roll:
Federal Minister for Finance Ishaq Dar, when contacted by The News on Saturday, confirmed that Nawaz would chair the NEC and cabinet meeting via a video link from London and after approving the development outlay he would sign the budget documents.
Under Article 83 of the Constitution, the minister said it was the requirement of the Constitution which would be fulfilled.
Ishaq Dar, the Finance Minister and relative of Ganja , appears to be the defacto PM, for the moment, "taking care of family business first" and national affairs later; this is in spite of earlier objections lodged by the (corrupt) Ex Chief Justice of Pakistan ( who joined the "national debate" on this matter !) ( SEE SEPARATE ITEM BELOW !)
To another query regarding salaries of Heavy Mechanical Complex (HMC) employees, the minister concluded that he had approved the seven-month salaries of HMC employees today (Saturday).
Ganja's critic have always accused him of running the" PM office " as if it is a "family business" :mrgreen:
A top official told The News on Saturday afternoon that the government’s legal team and others held an important meeting under the chairmanship of Ishaq Dar (relative seems to be taking charge !) in which two options came under consideration due to the ailment of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif who would be passing through an open heart surgery next Tuesday.One option was to hold the NEC and cabinet meeting through a video link from London prior to the surgery of the premier and get the documents of approving the budget for 2016-17 signed.The second option that came under discussion was to seek the approval of the PM for designating any minister to chair the NEC and cabinet meetings as the rules of business of the cabinet allowed such arrangement in the case of the absence of the PM or in the case of any emergency.
After deliberations and hectic consultation, the government finally decided to use technology for holding the NEC meeting as per its exact schedule on Monday (tomorrow) afternoon connecting the PM through a vidvy eo link from London to get approval of the budgetary process well on time in order to avoid delay in the announcement of the next budget.
And Ganja's British Doctors are allowing all this at the cost of the health of their patient ? :roll:
Finance Minister Senator Mohammad Ishaq Dar on Saturday chaired a high level meeting wherein important decisions were taken.
Meanwhile, prayers were offered in several mosques in Washington and the neighbouring state of Virginia and Maryland for the early recovery of Prime Minister Muhammad Nawaz Sharif who will undergo an open-heart surgery in London next week.At the Friday prayers, worshipers prayed for the successful operation and early recovery of the prime minister and for the prosperity of Pakistan.Washington and the surrounding states of Virginia and Maryland are home to a large number of Pakistani Americans who are keenly observing happenings back in their motherland.Many leading members of the Pakistani American community have recently expressed their disappointment over the efforts by some politicians to politically destabilise the country and have asked their leaders to show maturity and unity at a time when Pakistan is fighting a long battle against terrorism.
The prime minister’s daughter Maryam Nawaz in a tweet (so the tech savvy heir apparent is not "taking over" the levers of power in this highly male dominated society ?) asked people to pray for him saying: "Prayers are the most effective and potent medicine."


Govt rejects former CJP’s rhetoric on PM Nawaz’s absence

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Postby Falijee » 29 May 2016 16:46

"House Of Sharif" In Crisis Mode !
Shahbaz leaves for London
LAHORE (Staff Report) – Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif Sunday left for London, where his elder brother Nawaz Sharif is due to undergo an open heart surgery.
His son Hamza Shahbaz was also accompanying him, on the trip.
In a message released to media prior to his departure, Shahbaz requested whole nation to pray for earliest recovery of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif.
Nawaz Sharif will soon be back to Pakistan and assume his official duties after treatment in London, he said.
Earlier this week, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif had left for London for a regular medical checkup, however afterwards, reports surfaced that his doctors have suggested a surgery. He is now set to undergo an open-heart surgery Tuesday.

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Postby Falijee » 29 May 2016 16:50

President House denounces media reports about President Mamnoon’s bad health

From the above, it seems to appear that the Paki leadership- from top to bottom - appears to be "not healthy" :mrgreen:

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Sharif family bearing expenditures of PM Nawaz’s treatment: Maryam :roll:
LAHORE (Staff Report) – Maryam Nawaz Sharif, the daughter of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, has strongly rejected the media reports which claimed that public money is being spent on the premier’s treatment in London.
In a post on micro-blogging network twitter, Maryam said that expenses incurred on her father’s treatment and accommodation abroad are being met by her family itself.“All present and previous expenditures incurred on the Prime Minister treatment, investigations/ tests, lodging are borne by the family itself,” she asserted.
Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif is set to undergo an open-heart surgery in London on Tuesday, upon the advice of doctors. Maryam Nawaz Sharif confirmed the news on Twitter.

There must be some "ugly rumours" being spread by Sharifs' political enemies, otherwise what is the purpose of making such a public disclaimer - hain-ji ?
PS: In the days when Ganja was healthy, wealthy and strong, Immy had accused the PM of using government funds to finance a "well paved private road" (instead of from his own money ) from Lahore to his palace in Raiwand. So, maybe, there is some "substance" to these ugly rumours; remains to be seen; truth will ultimately come out ! :mrgreen:

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Postby Falijee » 29 May 2016 17:10

Pakistan refused to accept India’s dictation :roll:

So this was the underlying factor, as gathered from May 1998’s address of the then prime minister, Nawaz Sharif, that made his government take the historic decision of testing the nuclear device at Chaghi on May 28, 1998, which day is remembered throughout the Islamic world as Yaum-e-Takbeer (the day when Allah’s name was exalted).

PS: After shocks of above :
(i) Enchendee preserved (ii) first Islamic bomb (iii) = = maintained (iv) slow slide to ultimate bankruptcy !

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Postby Falijee » 29 May 2016 17:16

US says any country, including Pakistan, can apply for NSG membership
WASHINGTON: The Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) will decide on India’s application for membership, a US State Department spokesman observed on Friday, saying any country, including Pakistan, could apply for it.
So, Massa gave "green light" to the Pakis for their "formal" application for membership
Pakistan last week submitted a formal application for NSG membership, saying the decision to seek participation in the export control regime reflects Pakistan’s strong support for international efforts to prevent proliferation. Pakistan has also stressed the need for the NSG to adopt a non-discriminatory criteria-based approach for NSG membership of the countries which have never been party to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT). Both Pakistan and India have never joined the NPT
= = status now maintained !
...he said the NSG met regularly and did not believe it was called to particularly talk about Indian membership. :mrgreen:

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Postby Falijee » 29 May 2016 18:46

Project Afghanistan
MAYBE we don’t know what we’re doing. Maybe we’re hostage to history and the past. Maybe the outside world is wrong.
Or maybe we know exactly what we’re doing and why.
Mansour is dead because Pakistan couldn’t deliver him to the negotiating table. And Pakistan couldn’t deliver Mansour to the negotiating table because Pakistan has influence, not control.
You don’t have to be a strategic expert to figure out how leverage works. We want X to do Y. We ask politely. X refuses. So, we lean on X.
And Pakistan has only influence, not control, over the Taliban because — well, here’s where the official story starts to break down.
Publicly, the line is this — sanctuary does not equal control because even without sanctuary, the Taliban would still be fighting the Afghan state inside Afghanistan.
The fault, then, is with the Afghan state — if they were better at governing and fighting, the Taliban wouldn’t be around. We — Pakistan — can’t be held responsible for the screw-ups of the Afghan state.
Privately, the line is this — sanctuary does not equal control because the Taliban know we can’t force them to dialogue. Because if we tried to force them, they’d bring the war here.
And Pakistan cannot afford another war inside Pakistan, with the Afghan Taliban of all things. That would be insanity and disaster.
So, influence — and limited influence at best.
We want there to be dialogue, we really do, but there’s only so much we can do. See above.
Except — what part of Mansour catching a taxi from Taftan and merrily wandering across the Balochistan expanse suggests that we were serious about making the Taliban dialogue?
You don’t have to be a strategic expert to figure out how leverage works. We want X to do Y. We ask politely. X refuses. So, we lean on X.
We curb his freedoms. We ask for his passport back. We disrupt his side businesses. We stall his communications. We make him feel isolated.

Gradual but determined escalation. Whatever the specifics, by the time the end comes, X shouldn’t casually be passing through immigration and wandering around on his own.
And that business about bringing war to Pakistan? It sounds awfully like what we were once told about the TTP. We can’t go into North Waziristan because they’ll bring the war to the cities. It will be carnage on a scale that we couldn’t imagine. Pakistan would be brought to its knees.
Except, it wasn’t. Peshawar happened, as did Lahore and some other stuff. But that epic blowback that had been so feared was pretty much neutralised by the very thing we were told would trigger it:

A military operation combined with counterterrorism stuff — y’know, the kind of stuff that a state is supposed to do when confronted by an internal military threat.
And about the Afghan Taliban’s bluff.
The basic difference between the Afghan Taliban and the TTP, we’ve always been told, is that the Afghan lot are nationalists, not trans-nationalists.
They have no ambitions beyond Afghanistan. They won’t fight abroad and won’t sponsor violence abroad. They’re not the TTP.
So, call their bluff — we tell them to dialogue, they say they won’t, then squeeze them until they do or see if they’ll really threaten to bring the war here.
And if they do threaten — it’s not like we don’t know where each and everyone of their leaders is. They threaten war, we bring the hammer down on them.
Fantasy? You bet.
Because we’ve done this before. Back when the Geneva accords were being negotiated and we were publicly pledging non-interference and non-intervention while preparing for the opposite.
Now, it’s all talk of peace and dialogue and Afghan-owned and Afghan-led. While Mansour is getting his passport stamped and taking a taxi across Balochistan.
Maybe we don’t know what we’re doing. Maybe we’ve trapped ourselves.

Or maybe we do know exactly what we’re doing and why — Afghanistan is ours, the Taliban are ours and there ain’t anything the world can do about it.
Because the post-Bonn Afghan state is not sustainable. Because the US will eventually tire. Because time is on our side.
And while destiny and the inevitable will be ours, if in the meantime there’s a drone strike or four, so be it. The US is a superpower. You have to let the angry giant tire himself out.
Omar, Mansour, Haibatullah, Jack, John or Jill, who cares — Project Afghanistan, our plan for our neighbour to the west, remains untouched.
A simple agenda — Afghanistan will be ours and the Taliban will get it for us. But a complicated tactic — shout dialogue from the rooftops, while keeping the Taliban in the basement. :mrgreen:
Because the time isn’t right and until then we have to play along.
Influence, not control is the other incompetence or complicity — a canard that buys us time and shields our agenda.
Final thought: the N-League has for months claimed that Nawaz has some trouble with his heart and that a check-up was on the cards. And when Nawaz flew off to London after Panama, the N-League did protest that there was a genuine health issue too.
But it didn’t break through the news cycle. Panama was a sexier story and none of our anchor-warriors and free-media champions thought to ask, is this real and how serious is it?
Now we know. Never mind a constitutional vacuum and a media that doesn’t bring you the news, though — we’ve still got Panama.


Long story short : (I) Deep State was unable to "deliver Mansour to the negotiating table , as promised to Massa"; therefore good riddance to bad rubbish by US eliminating him ! Added Bonus: but cherished dream of Afghanistan being a client state still remains intact :((

(II) Ganja's health problem, as it turns out now, is indeed REAL!!!

Where Pakistan believes Afghanistan is "ours," the Talibs will deliver it and the duniya can fxxk off. Good summary. - Christine Fair on above :mrgreen:
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Postby Abhay_S » 29 May 2016 19:16

I Am A Badtameez Pakistani Woman And I Am Proud To Be One

http://www.mangobaaz.com/i-am-a-badtameez-woman-but-i-am-proud-to-be-one/

Growing up in a family where restrictions are only applicable to females is rather abrasive.

Can’t really blame the family though, the society with the deep rooted patriarchy is to be blamed where even the religion is molded according to the whims and desires of men and used as a justification to mistreat women and/or to keep them in the houses to eliminate the challenge they can pose to men’s mardangi if liberated. We live in a society where working women are labelled as behaya while men talking sleazily about (laughing and joking) their female colleagues is considered to be completely normal.

Zahida KazmiSource: BBC
I grew up in a family where my elder brother is more feared than even my own father, and obviously listened to.

At 20, I am expected to attend university, get a 4.0 CGPA, bake the perfect gol roti when I am back, hold a double job (requires around 8 hours a day) to pay my university fee, whereas my brother’s job is ‘’only to earn’’ and fetching himself a glass of water after office is simply too exhausting for him.

I am allowed to do a home based job (Thanks, dad!) but not allowed to interact with the opposite gender to enhance my skills because mene dunya nae daikhi. I have always been kept under a tight check, and not because they don’t trust me, but because I am a female.

Even laughing at something funny I came across during random Facebook scroll would pique everyone’s curiosity.

As a female I am expected to behave in a particular way, be a good little girl, protect my dignity, not talk too loud, or laugh in an “odd way”, be tidy, take care of everyone, do the household chores, be perfect because if I didn’t no one will marry me. It has nothing to do with religion, and everything to do with patriarchy.
Women PakistanSource: Fox News
My family never had a great financial background; I never received pocket money when I was younger, whereas my brothers used to. I remember when I used to ask my dad and how he used to joke about me not having pockets by saying, “pocket money is for those who have pockets”. Now when I am earning, they ask me to save my money meanwhile expect me to pay my fee (because they can’t afford 38k after every 4 months while my brother can go to a restaurant every week), also every now and then asking me to quit my job because it is effecting my family life. Well, here’s the truth, I never had a happy family.

I’ve had a childhood full of emotional neglect with sexual exploitation being the topping on cake that poisoned my very existence.

But then again, maybe I was too naïve once that I let my learned helplessness destroy me without even realizing it. By the tender age of 12 I started living in my own bubble, I shut myself up and built the walls high. It wasn’t until late teens when I realized how negatively it had affected me, that was when I started lifting myself up only to get my wings clipped by the binders of expectations.

If you talk about patriarchy, there are always double standards, using religion and political system against women and in the favor of men. It is so deeply rooted in our culture that we, females spend our entire lives waiting for the prince charming, only to realize that how problematic the idea of a random person being our ‘prince charming’ is in the first place. To be expected to get physically and emotionally intimate with someone you have just met, and to let that one person to dictate every aspect of your life because he belongs to the same patriarchal society where women are always inferior to men and are considered outright bewakoof.

My entire life was a struggle to know who I truly was, now that I have discovered myself I am not going back.

The realization liberated me, had me kick out the thoughts of loug kia kahain gae. I simply stopped caring. When I finally did show my own self, I became “badtameez“, an outcast because it is not socially (or culturally) acceptable for a woman to put her needs before others.

In this society a woman is defined by her gender roles than her individuality. She’s a mother, a sister, a daughter, but who is she?

Who is she if not to be defined by her roles? A nobody. Somewhere between fulfilling other people’s expectations and pleasuring their husband’s, women lost their individuality.


I liberated myself by doing everything I wouldn’t have dared otherwise; I jumped out of my bubble. I tasted liberation. A little rough? Yes. But again, for a woman, freedom is the ultimate struggle and the path of struggle is never sweet. It isn’t about being rebellious, it’s about doing the unexpected, going against the norms, and it is constant a reminder that for a woman every day is a quest towards empowerment, a struggle to crush patriarchy and being the kind of women who is not to be messed with, because a woman’s life is more than just to get married and reproduce.

About the Author: Nayab is a a dreamer who aspires to inspire.

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Postby Falijee » 29 May 2016 19:37

Why Pakistan has abandoned F-16 Deal with US
SLAMABAD: Why Pakistan has abandoned F-16 Deal with US
Pakistan and US had struck a deal for 8 F-16 Fighter jets which was to be materialised by May 24, 2016.
However US Congress did not approve the required funding of $430 millions which was to be provided as a subsidy to be paid by US as a partner of Pakistan in War against terrorism.
An amount of $270 million was supposed to be paid by government of Pakistan as the total amount of the 8 F-16 was calculated at $700 millions.
After US refusal to pay the subsidy of $430 millions Pakistan government has decided to abandon the F-16 Deal with United States.
Where is Bhooka Nanga Pakistan going to come up with that kind of money :mrgreen:
Pakistan is mulling the options of acquiring some other fighter jets for its Air Force and the likely option includes Chinese J-10 or in future Chinese latest J-31 may also be considered.
IMO, it is a classic case of sour grapes ! now the Pakis will have to settle for junk (Chini-J-10) :mrgreen:

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Postby Falijee » 29 May 2016 20:56

Encirclement Of Pakistan ? India getting closer to Gawadar via Oman
India and Oman to Upgrade Defense Ties
NEW DELHI — India and Oman signed pacts to upgrade their defense ties during Indian Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar's May 20-22 visit to the gulf nation, which was the first country India established defense ties with in the 1970s.
The countries agreed to work together on boosting defense, crime prevention at sea, maritime issues and a flight safety information exchange.
A Ministry of Defense (MoD) official said the two countries will explore the possibility of India exporting weapons to Oman, which could also include setting up defense production facilities there.
Parrikar was accompanied by a high-powered delegation of military planners and officials, including Ashok Gupta, secretary (defence production); Dr. S. Christopher, secretary, director general of the Defence Research and Development Organization; Lt. Gen. MMS Rai, vice chief of Army Staff; Vice Adm. Sunil Lanba, Western Naval Command; and Air Marshal B.S. Dhanoa, vice chief of Air Staff.
Seldom has such a big delegation been part of a defense minister's visit overseas, the MoD official said, which he said indicates the level of defense cooperation India and Oman are hoping to achieve.
Oman is the first country in the gulf region to procure the Indian small arms system (INSAS), built by the state-run Ordnance Factory Board.
India's state-owned Goa Shipyard Limited has delivered three tugboats to Oman and additional orders are expected, the MoD official said.
Oman has always been the "odd man out " in the Arab Ummah ; it has refused to toe the standard "Arab line on Iran" and it does not cozy too much to Pakistan, because of its centuries old trading ties with India !
Oman has given berthing rights to Indian Navy vessels, which have been used for anti-piracy operations in the Gulf of Aden. In addition the Indian Air Force has been holding joint exercises.
"Parrikar reiterated (during his talks with Oman leaders) the high importance that India attaches to its strategic partnership with Oman," the release said.
He conveyed his appreciation at the "continued support rendered by Oman for the operational turnaround of Indian Navy ships for anti-piracy patrols as well as technical support for landing and over flight of Indian Air Force aircraft," the MoD release said.

Pakistan's dream of a strategic advantage against India by cozying upto China and "giving away Gwader to Chini-blothers" is not going to work as smoothly as they thought ! :mrgreen:

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Postby Falijee » 29 May 2016 21:33

Drone Threat Hangs Over Newly Anointed Taliban Head ?

US says new Taliban chief should support peace in Afghanistan, unlike predecessor

WASHINGTON (Web Desk) – The United States (US) has said that the new Taliban leader Haibatullah is not on its list of designated terrorists (for now !) and advised him to opt for peace, not war.
“Our olive branch would be simply that we have long said that we support an Afghan-led, Afghan-owned peace process and reconciliation process, and we would welcome any efforts by the new Taliban leadership to engage,” said a State Department spokesman, Mark Toner.
Asked if the United States would offer the new Taliban leader Mullah Haibatullah an olive branch to encourage him to join the peace process, Toner said the elimination of his predecessor last Saturday has created an opportunity for Mullah Haibatullah to quit violence.US official once again refused to offer an assurance that American drones would not target the new Taliban leader if he chose to join negotiations.
Diplomatic observers will read "between the lines" :mrgreen:
“The new leadership — they have an opportunity here to engage — re-engage on peace talks, and it’s our hope that they make that choice,” Toner added.
Iron fist under a "velvet glove"? :roll:
US President Barack Obama had said in a statement that Mullah Mansour was killed because he had rejected efforts to seriously engage in peace talks and end the violence.
Ombaba in the tail days of his presidency has decided to do away with diplomatic niceties :mrgreen:

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Postby Falijee » 29 May 2016 21:55

" Blow By Blow" Account Of How Mullah Mansour Was Droned

Mullah Mansour Drone Attack: Behind-the-scenes story of how the Taliban chief was hunted down

WASHINGTON (Web Desk) – U.S. spy agencies hit Taliban leader Mullah Akhtar Mansour while he was crossing the border into Pakistan after visiting his family in Iran, The Wall Street Journal reported on Tuesday.
While the U.S. surveillance drones don’t operate in the area, intercepted communications and other types of intelligence allowed the spy agencies to track their target as he crossed the frontier on Saturday, got into a white Toyota Corolla and made his way by road through Balochistan province, according to U.S. officials briefed on the operation.

In some versions, the Iranis provided actionable evidence; in other versions, the Pakis were "forced" to co-operate by the Amreekis as he could not "deliver" as promised, so who sided with the "poor" Talibani Mullah who was to meet his 72? :mrgreen:
Then, according to the WSJ, the US military took over. Operators waited for the right moment to send armed drones across the Afghan border to “fix” on the car and made sure no other vehicles were in the way so they could “finish” the target, the officials said.
They used the argot of drone killing – all before Mullah Mansour could reach the crowded city of Quetta, where a strike would have been more complicated.
President Barack Obama secretly ordered the strike on Mullah Mansour after first trying to bring him to the negotiating table. Initially, there was hope in Washington that Mullah Mansour would be more open to negotiations than his predecessor, Mullah Mohammad Omar.
Obama administration officials were divided over whether the Pakistanis were capable or willing to deliver Mullah Mansour for the negotiations.
U.S. officials said the Pakistanis tried and grew frustrated in February by Mullah Mansour’s refusal to send representatives to meet with the Afghan government.

So, according to this version, the Pakis did not "lift a finger" to save him !
U.S. intelligence agencies received information that allowed them to track Mullah Mansour’s movements, (technical intelligence as human intelligence from Iran ? )including details about devices he used for communications, U.S. officials said.
oth the U.S. military and the CIA operate drones in the region. Military drones in Afghanistan rarely stray across the border, and CIA drones generally only go into Pakistan for strikes in what are known as Federally Administered Tribal Areas, according to U.S. officials.
Pakistan facilitates the program by clearing the airspace there for CIA drones, while publicly opposing U.S. strikes in Pakistani territory, they said.

So, this version also confirms the theory that the Pakis say one thing to their Aam Abduls but do quite the opposite in private to keep the Moolah coming :mrgreen:
But Balochistan has long been off limits to the drones, U.S. and Pakistani officials say. So the U.S. officials believe that Mullah Mansour and other Taliban leaders felt more comfortable there. But not this time !
Route N-40, which Mullah Mansour and his driver used, cuts between Taftan on the Iranian border and Quetta, the provincial capital of Balochistan.
The U.S. normally would want multiple drones to keep eyes on such an important target. Because CIA drones weren’t operating in the area, U.S. spy agencies relied on signals intelligence and other location information to track the Corolla’s journey, according to U.S. officials.
Armed drones based in Afghanistan and piloted by the U.S. military’s Joint Special Operations Command were preparing to move in for the kill, the officials said.
The U.S. knew Pakistani radar could detect the intrusion. Pakistan might then scramble jet fighters to intercept the drones, so timing was critical.
The military’s Reaper drones crossed the border into Pakistani airspace, flying low over the mountains along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border to exploit gaps in radar coverage, the officials said.
Pakistani officials said they weren’t notified by U.S. authorities until seven hours after the strike.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Postby Anujan » 29 May 2016 22:09

SSridhar wrote:^ Duality and duplicity have been the pillars of the Pakistani Establishment, and before the creation of 'The Establishment', that of the cabal that created Pakistan.

When OBL was killed at Abbotabad, there were no voices against the military hiding him in their cantonment, rather, there was anger against the US action. When Mansour is killed, again nobody questions Sartaj Aziz why he has allowed the Rahbari Shura terrorists and their families to stay safely in Pakistan thereby inviting the Americans to violate the sovereignty. Rather, the anger (much muted though, this time) is against violation of sovereignty.


Also Pakis are very good at messaging. Sartaj Aziz has said that Taliban being killed is detrimental to the peace process and everyone is debating it. Nobody is pointing to his hypocrisy when he has implied (without saying), Taliban killing Afghans should be condoned because it is conducive to the peace process.

This seems to be a common thread among Pakis. Paki terrorists killing others = collateral damage, unresolved issues radicalizing youth, non state actors etc etc. Paki terrorist getting whacked = dangerous destabilization of South Asia and bad for peace process.

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Postby Falijee » 29 May 2016 22:51

Wife Of Nobel Laureate, living In Britain Speaks Out On Her Native Pakistan's Treatment Of Women

'I can still see the horror that made me flee Pakistan - in the haunted eyes of girls raised HERE': Nadira Naipaul exposes arranged marriages and honour killings in the UK
When I married V.  S. Naipaul and moved to England in 1996, I thought I had left the horror behind.
Pakistan had drained my resolve, and I was tired of fighting a losing battle. To me, England, for all its ills, was the promised land.
Instead, I have found the horror I fled has followed me here. It is all around, eroding the very core of everything Britain believes in.
Not to mention that her own brother, (Faisal Alvi ) a high ranking (Maj-General ) officer serving in the Pakistan Army in FATA, was mysteriously gunned down in the streets of Islamabad a few years ago ! (probably by the Deep State )
I see it everywhere. In the haunted eyes of young Pakistani girls, brought up in Britain, who know nothing but a Westernised life: young women who work happily behind beauty counters in our department stores, yet must return home to parents who refuse to emerge from their cultural ghettos.And who expect their daughters to accept traditional arranged marriages to distant cousins brought up in rural Pakistan.
Who come to UK, feel disillusion, go on the welfare rolls, and join the jihad brigade !
When I talk to them they are seething with anger that their parents – some semi-literate – insist upon entrenching themselves in Muslim ghettos, erecting cultural barriers and refusing to integrate, rejecting any semblance of a British way of life.I see the same anger in young Muslim men who desperately want to join the mainstream, but cannot because deeply traditional parents expect strict adherence to traditional Islamic family life. It is easy to see how the clash between the generations can become corrosive, how at its most destructive extreme it can culminate in ‘honour killings’.
For a decade, while in Pakistan, I wrote extensively about women enmeshed in the restrictions of Islamic law and traditions of honour. Witnessing the torture inflicted on women by husbands, fathers, brothers and even female relatives with the seeming sanction of Islam gradually transformed me into a borderline heretic. It took me years to realise how deeply ingrained these beliefs are. And how difficult it is to combat them.
The tales of two women affected me deeply. While living on my farm in rural Bahawalpur with my first husband, I met Rani, a young woman whose husband was one of my seasonal labourers. I employed her as a maid.A few months later, we were visited by a minister in the government who was one of the biggest landowners in the area and an old friend of my husband. He arrived with an entourage demanding that I hand over Rani, her husband and her five-year-old son.
But when Rani became pregnant they married her off to an old man who often beat her and her son.A few years later Rani fell in love with a local boy and eloped with him and the child. Now the minister wanted her back.
He insisted, however, that we must hand her over. Not to do so would offend an old family friend. If not chastised properly, it would encourage other women to question their lot.
My husband had been educated in England and was the scion of an old, respected family, yet he accepted such things. When he realised I wouldn’t give Rani up, the minister said his ‘face must be saved’. He insisted upon taking the boy. Rani wailed like a banshee. The heartrending sight and sound of her has never left me.
He insisted, however, that we must hand her over. Not to do so would offend an old family friend. If not chastised properly, it would encourage other women to question their lot.
My husband had been educated in England and was the scion of an old, respected family, yet he accepted such things. When he realised I wouldn’t give Rani up, the minister said his ‘face must be saved’. He insisted upon taking the boy. Rani wailed like a banshee. The heartrending sight and sound of her has never left me.
Let me be clear. No Muslim woman should be forced to wear a veil. No woman wore it in the era of the Prophet. These Muslims may see themselves as community champions, but they are fanatics who make life a misery for young people who want to integrate.
It is time for liberal Muslims to speak out. The defenders of our precious multiculturalism must get real. My message to those who promote these entrenched ghetto ideas is this: go home if you want to practise your form of Islam. There is no place for it here.
Old news but still relevant !

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Postby Falijee » 29 May 2016 23:19

The Killing of Mullah Mansour: Major Milestone or Fart in the Wind? :mrgreen:
By affording a sanctuary to Taliban leaders in Pakistan, the United States has allowed the insurgent movement to grow in strength, to the point that they control nearly a third of Afghanistan. The U.S. drone strike that killed Mullah Mohammad Akhtar Mansour, the emir of the Taliban, could have been a good first step in altering a failing regional foreign policy. After all, a comprehensive campaign of targeting senior Taliban commanders, on both sides of the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, could serve as an effective counter to the insurgency’s growth.
This is now going to be the new US policy ! More Rona Dhona !
Unfortunately, President Obama has sent clear signals that this was probably a one-off attack...
Secretary of State John Kerry also made it clear immediately after the strike on Mansour that the United States targeted the Taliban leader because he was impeding reconciliation efforts. “Peace is what we want. Mansour was a threat to that effort,” Kerry said, in comments during a press conference in Burma. He continued: “He also was directly opposed to peace negotiations and to the reconciliation process. It is time for Afghans to stop fighting and to start building a real future together.”
In many ways, Washington’s approach to Pakistan has been more about offering or withholding carrots rather than combining incentives with consequences for negative behavior. Offering a steady diet of carrots to Pakistan in order to leverage their influence over the Taliban to bring them into the political fold in Afghanistan clearly has not worked. Following up the killing of Mansour with additional strikes against other Taliban officials and commanders in Baluchistan could have made it clear to Islamabad that the United States would no longer tolerate the Taliban sanctuary on Pakistani soil and that carrots would finally be paired with sticks.
The next POTUS, is probably going to be more assertive towards Pakistan ! :mrgreen:
Thus far, the Taliban seem unfazed by Mansour’s death. Akhunzada, the new Taliban leader, is a respected elder from Kandahar province and was considered Mullah Omar’s spiritual guide. His transition to the leadership post appears seamless and his appointment is likely a signal to Taliban hardliners that the movement remains uncompromising in its pursuit of victory. Sirajuddin Haqqani — Mansour’s deputy, leader of the Haqqani network, and close al Qaeda ally — was reelected to the Taliban’s “number two” post and will likely handle most of the operational orders to field commanders.
Ultimately, for the past 15 years, successive administrations have signaled that the United States does not have the stomach for what it will take to win in Afghanistan. Killing Mansour was necessary to demonstrate seriousness in a new approach to targeting the Taliban but, in and of itself, the strike was insufficient in bringing the Taliban to the peace talks or altering their behavior on the battlefield. Without following up this strike with more attacks against Taliban targets in Baluchistan, Mansour’s death will end up galvanizing Taliban support, increase the risk to NATO and Afghan troops in Afghanistan, and, most likely, deliver more carrots without a return on U.S. investment on Pakistan. Sadly, the killing of Mansour, while necessary, will prove insufficient and contribute to the notion that Washington’s regional approach is abysmally inadequate.
The next POTUS, is probably going to be more assertive (and more demanding and not caring a fxxk about their Enchendee :mrgreen: ) towards Pakistan ! :mrgreen:

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Postby sanjaykumar » 30 May 2016 00:27

Nadira Naipaul is a brave woman. Of course, some like Richard Dawkins seem to believe that western mate seeking strategies are inherently superior to the 'barbarism' (his term) of arranged marriages.

Perhaps alcohol and drug fuelled rutting is indeed closer to the biology of the mating drive.

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Postby Peregrine » 30 May 2016 01:45

Congratulations And celebrations
When I tell everyone that Cwapistan will not beg
To play Cricket with India

Congratulations And jubilations
I want the world to know I'm happy as can be.

Pak government gags PCB on cricket ties with India

KARACHI: The Pakistan government has restrained its Cricket Board from initiating any dialogue with the BCCI on the issue of a long-pending bilateral series, which has been scuttled repeatedly on account of volatile political ties between the two nations.

Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Shaharyar Khan said that until the government gave fresh directions, the PCB had given up on talking to the Indian board on resumption of bilateral cricket ties in the near future.

"The government has made it clear to us that we are not supposed to engage in any dialogue with our Indian counterparts nor give any statements on Indo-Pak cricket ties until further orders," Khan said.

The career diplomat said this was the reason why the PCB had avoided any discussions with the BCCI officials at the recent ICC meetings.

Khan, however, said the election of Anurag Thakur as the new chairman of the BCCI was a positive development for future Indo-Pak talks.

"Thakur, to me, represents both the BCCI and their government so it will be easier talking to one person when the time comes," he said.

"We did all we could to convince them to resume bilateral ties but they didn't respond in the same manner so now even our government has said put a lid on further discussions," Khan said.

India has not played a full bilateral series with Pakistan since the terror attacks in Mumbai in 2008 although Pakistan did tour India in the winter of 2012/13 for a short goodwill tour.

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Postby Falijee » 30 May 2016 02:20

Story Of The Naive Taxi Driver Who Became "Collateral Damage" When US " Droned" Mullah Mansour

Family of driver killed in US strike on Taliban leader file criminal case
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The family of a taxi driver who was killed in a drone strike while driving the leader of the Afghan Taliban across Pakistan have lodged a criminal case against the US government.
Mohammad Azam was killed on 21 May while unwittingly taking Taliban leader Mullah Akhtar Mansoor from the Iranian border to Quetta, the capital of Balochistan.The unprecedented attack has thrown into uncertainty possible peace talks with the Taliban as well as US-Pakistan relations.It has also devastated the family of Azam, who had been working for more than eight years as a driver in Taftan, a tiny desert town next to an important border crossing with Iran.
A smart local lawyer should consider filing a suit against the Pakistan Govt as well !
“He was the sole breadwinner of our large joint family, this was an attack on our family that hardly earns enough for two meals a day,” said Mohammad Qasim, Azam’s older brother.Azam supported his wife, four children, and a disabled brother called Yar Muhammad.A week after his death his children remain distraught and tearful. They describe their father as a “martyr”.
“Who will feed them now?” asked Qasim. “I appeal to the civilised world, including all those human rights bodies, to investigate the brutal murder of my brother and compensate his children.”
He has filed a “first investigation report” for murder, naming the “US authorities” who claimed responsibility for the attack. The police are now obliged to investigate the matter. “I want justice and demand action against the US authorities,” the document reads.It was a series of chance occurrences that led to Azam finding one of the US’s most wanted men sitting in his white Toyota Corolla.Azam got much of his work though a small local transport company owned by Habib Saoli, which has its office near the exit of the Iranian-Pakistani border facility that straddles the border.
Mansoor emerged from that building shortly after 9am on 21 May, returning to Pakistan after a long visit to Iran which, it has been reported, was for both medical attention and to visit members of his family.He was passing himself off as a Pakistani citizen using a passport and national ID card with the false name Muhammad Wali.Did Deep State facilitate the issue of forged documents ?
He immediately began looking for a ride for the 600km journey to the city of Quetta.Said Ahmed Jan, an employee of a bus company, was trying to fill up the final seats of his Quetta-bound minibus but Mansoor wasn’t interested.
“He said, ‘I want to go in a car’, so I called Habib and asked him to provide a car,” said Jan. “Habib took a little commission and gave the job to Azam.”
Saoli said he could not remember whether Mansoor, who initially tried to haggle down the 14,000 rupees (£90) charge, had ever used one of his cars before.Shia state and hardline Sunni group have proved themselves willing to cooperate despite deep ideological antipathy
Mansoor was likely to have thought himself safe given the US is not known to have carried out any operations inside Balochistan despite the vast province being home to many of the Taliban commanders with which the US has been at war for 15 years.

There were other reports which stated that "Wali Mohamed " traveled by air from Karachi to Dubai at least ten times to take care of his "business"
The situation is unlike Waziristan, a tribal region hundreds of miles to the north, where militant commanders operate in constant fear of the CIA’s extensive drone programme.In Waziristan the targets are usually groups affiliated with al-Qaida or the Haqqani Network, a Taliban ally. It is almost unheard of for senior members of the core Afghan Taliban, often known as the Quetta Shura, to be attacked inside Pakistan.However the US had already decided if it got the chance to kill Mansoor, who the Pentagon described as an “obstacle to peace” who was actively preventing Taliban commanders from holding talks with representatives of the Afghan government.
Attempting to foster such a reconciliation process is now a key part of US strategy in the region, with the country having backed a Pakistan-led effort to bring the two sides together.But Mansoor had been responsible for soaring violence in Afghanistan, forcing the Kabul government to abandon some territory to the insurgents.It is not known why the US waited to strike until Mansoor had completed more than two-thirds of his journey, having been on the road for almost six hours.

The US did not want to provoke an international incident by mistakenly taking him out on Iranian soil !
But the car was finally destroyed by missile strikes in the mid-afternoon, shortly after the pair had taken a rest stop near the town of Ahmad Wal, roughly 35km from Afghan airspace.Qasim said he could not believe the news of his brother’s death when he received it, or understand how the leader of the Taliban could have been able to travel so freely.
“Why didn’t the hundreds of paramilitary troops stop him like they do with the common passengers?” he asked.“Why did the Americans kill him just for driving a car?” he asked. “It was not written on [Mansoor’s] forehead that he is a Taliban leader. He was travelling with valid documents.”Mureed Shah, a local government official for the area, said Azam had “no links with any militant group”.
“I know Azam personally. He was working on a low-paid job to support his poor family,” Shah said. “I have written to the government in Quetta to pay compensation to the family.”
Qasim said no one from the government had as yet contacted him about compensation.The US army has made payments to civilian victims of military operations, including drone strikes, just over the border in Afghanistan, but not in Pakistan.Mustafa Qadri, a drones expert from Amnesty International, said the family had a right to bring a claim and demand damages.
“The US has itself said very openly that it seeks to minimise civilian casualties and provide compensation and other damages to civilians who die,” he said.“So if this is justified as a spill over from the Afghan conflict why has the US not said anything about the unintended victim of this strike?”
Some well known international human rights lawyer should act on his behalf and approach the US quietly for compensation and damages to this person !

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Postby Falijee » 30 May 2016 04:16

Ganja Sharif To Approve Paki Budget For 2016-17 By Skype :roll:

Federal budget 2016-17 to be presented on June 3

LAHORE (Staff Report) – Government is all set to present the budget fiscal year 2016-17 before the parliament on next Friday (June03).Minister for Finance Ishaq Dar will lay the budget proposals before the parliament after having the approval of the Federal Cabinet.“All arrangements are being finalised for the budget in the National Assembly on time”, Finance Minister Ishaq Dar said in a statement issued here on Sunday.
For all practical purposes, this London-trained C.A. and family relative of NS. is behaving like the Acting PM, although no official announcement on this has been made yet !
Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, who would undergo an open heart surgery on May 31 in London, would chair a meeting of Federal Cabinet on budget and National Economic Council via Skype on May 30.According to sources, the decision was taken in a high-level meeting held at Prime Minister House, where Finance Minister Ishaq Dar and Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif were also present.
The meeting decided to get the approval of the national budget via Skype from the prime minister, who would return to the country on the advice of doctors after his heart surgery.
This has to be the first in the annals of Westminister Style Democracy (although Pakistan is a democracy in name only !) where the constitution is not clear on the appointment of an ActingPM, so decisions on important matters are made on the fly, and Budget Approval is done via the wonders of Western infidel technology :mrgreen:

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Postby Falijee » 30 May 2016 04:23

Pakistan bans contraceptive advertisements on TV and radio

Pemra withdraws ban on contraceptive ads

It seems that the Mullah Brigade lost this now ! :mrgreen:

Volte Face within a span of three to four days ; what's next is anybody's guess !!

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Postby Kashi » 30 May 2016 04:59

Abhay_S wrote:As a female I am expected to behave in a particular way, be a good little girl, protect my dignity, not talk too loud, or laugh in an “odd way”, be tidy, take care of everyone, do the household chores, be perfect because if I didn’t no one will marry me. It has nothing to do with religion, and everything to do with patriarchy.


:roll:

Of course, wouldn't want to be declared waajib-ul-qatl do we?

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Postby chanakyaa » 30 May 2016 06:55


This is a good news. MM must have drove off the highway and parked the car on the side to check the map or thinking about taking a piss, when the drone allegedly hit him looks like. Because there are no tire marks on the road. Whoever is in the passport picture looks awfully old for 1972 birth year. Link below claims that the passport was found by local officials to be "miraculously" in perfect condition. Man...I love modern drones. They can take out a target smoldering while keeping the passport intact...love it.

What Was Mullah Mansour Doing in Iran?

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Postby RCase » 30 May 2016 07:12

Falijee wrote:The Killing of Mullah Mansour: Major Milestone or Fart in the Wind? :mrgreen:
By affording a sanctuary to Taliban leaders in Pakistan, the United States has allowed the insurgent movement to grow in strength, to the point that they control nearly a third of Afghanistan. The U.S. drone strike that killed Mullah Mohammad Akhtar Mansour, the emir of the Taliban, could have been a good first step in altering a failing regional foreign policy. After all, a comprehensive campaign of targeting senior Taliban commanders, on both sides of the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, could serve as an effective counter to the insurgency’s growth.
This is now going to be the new US policy ! More Rona Dhona !

Falijee - i think in this case it is 'More Drona Dhona' !

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Postby SSridhar » 30 May 2016 09:59

Kashi wrote:
Abhay_S wrote:As a female I am expected to behave in a particular way, be a good little girl, protect my dignity, not talk too loud, or laugh in an “odd way”, be tidy, take care of everyone, do the household chores, be perfect because if I didn’t no one will marry me. It has nothing to do with religion, and everything to do with patriarchy.


:roll:

Of course, wouldn't want to be declared waajib-ul-qatl do we?

No one, not even the rebels or thinkers, wants to blame Islam. One can quote authenticated verses from the Koran for the ills that this learned and enlightened lady describes, but, in the end she blames patriarchy! In another context, they would blame the local culture. In yet another context, they would blame the whole world ganging up against them. They always blame the Yahud, Hunud & the Nassara for conspiracies against a peace-loving people and their Religion of Peace. And, so on and so forth. None wants to see the gargantuan gorilla sitting next to them in the same room in full view, which are the Koran and the Hadith and their interpretations by the four schools.


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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Postby SSridhar » 30 May 2016 15:14


It was a roadside bomb and the Chinese engineer was the target of the attack.

The Chinese are going to be furious. We know what happened after the Chinese masseurs were imprisoned by the kendo-stick sisters of the Red Mosque in 2008. Musharraf had to launch the SSG commandos and the rest is history.


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