Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2016

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Postby Falijee » 22 May 2016 06:31

India Asks China To Stop Work In Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir
New Delhi: India has asked China to stop all work in parts of Jammu and Kashmir occupied by Pakistan, the external affairs ministry said on Friday.
"Pakistan-occupied Jammu and Kashmir is an integral part of India," external affairs ministry spokesperson Vikas Swarup said at his weekly media briefing here.
"Chinese activities in Pakistan-occupied Jammu and Kashmir have been taken up with the Chinese side, including at the highest level," he said.
Mr Swarup was responding to a question on India's stand on Chinese activities in the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, a large part of which falls within Pakistan-occupied Jammu and Kashmir.
China is believed to have made huge investments and is sponsoring development projects in Pakistan-controlled Jammu and Kashmir, including in the volatile Shia-dominated Gilgit-Baltistan area.
"We have asked them (the Chinese side) to cease all activities in Pakistan-occupied Jammu and Kashmir," Mr Swarup said.

It is high time that India hardens its stance on Chinese colonization of POK and Gilgit/Baltistan !

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Postby SSridhar » 22 May 2016 06:34



I am not surprised that Pakistan actually handed over *its* border post at Angoor Adda to Afghanistan. It was in Angoor Adda in 2003 that the PA launched one of its earliest operations against the 'bad Taliban'. The 'bad Taliban' were the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU) led by Tahir Yuldashev. The IMU had taken the ETIM (East Turkestan Independence Movement) Uyghurs under its wing and China pressurized Pakistan Army to target them. The PA was also under immense pressure from the US. The PA Generals were also after American dollars. So, SSG Commander Feisal Alvi directly oversaw the Angoor Adda operation because there was a tiip-off that Yuldashev was hiding there. There was no Yuldashev and Feisal Alvi was shot dead later on for this cardinal sin. A few months after the Angoor Adda operation, nearby Kaloosha taught a severe lesson to the PA. Pursuing Yuldashev, the PA got one of its humiliating drubbings there. Soon thereafter, a Peace Accord was struck with Nek Mohammed.

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Postby Falijee » 22 May 2016 06:48

China stood by Pakistan through thick and thin : Shahbaz Sharif :((
The friendly relations between Pakistan and China are more than an ordinary relationship and cannot be described in words, Punjab Chief Minister Shehbaz Sharif said addressing a function on the 65th anniversary of diplomatic relations between Pakistan and China at the CM’s Office on Saturday.
The farticle is a one-sided monologue (no comments from the Chini Consul !) from the "clever brother" praising sky -high Chini blothers support to Pakiland and ending up with the Pakjabi C.M. spoon-feeding the Chinese Consul-General (picture is there !) the cake cut for the occasion !

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Postby Falijee » 22 May 2016 07:15

3-nation Chabahar port pact to be signed as Modi visits Iran next week
India, Iran and Afghanistan are set to sign an agreement on developing Chabahar port and establishing a transit-transport corridor during Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to Tehran next week, a deal that will make it easier for New Delhi to access markets as far afield as the Central Asian republics.
The agreement, to be signed in the presence of Modi, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani and Afghan President Ashraf Ghani on May 23, is expected to be the centrepiece of the Indian Prime Minister’s two-day visit, sources said.
Once this project is completed ,Paki blackmail will not work !
The establishment of a transit-transport corridor with Chabahar port in Iran’s Sistan-Baluchistan province at its heart will allow Afghanistan to bypass Pakistan for trade with India. It will also allow India and Afghanistan to access new markets in the Central Asian republics.
The three countries have engaged in protracted negotiations on the Chabahar Agreement since 2003 but the venture was boosted by recent developments, including the lifting of nuclear-related sanctions on Tehran in January and New Delhi’s renewed focus on the port in southeast Iran.
The Afghan ambassador to India, Shaida Mohammad Abdali, had recently described the agreement as a “done deal”. The external affairs ministry said in a statement that the agreement “will be a strategic bulwark for greater flow of people and goods among the three countries as well as in the region”.
During a meeting in New Delhi last month, representatives of Afghanistan, India and Iran finalised and initialled the text of the agreement They also agreed to set up a sub-committee to frame transit, port, customs and consular protocols within six months.
Pakistan has been watching moves by the three countries to operationalise the Chabahar Agreement with a wary eye as it believes the project could impact its efforts to develop Gwadar port in the restive Balochistan province with Chinese assistance. Gwadar is also at the heart of the $46-billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, which will run from the port to Xinjiang.
The Afghan side has already warned India and Iran to be prepared for a possible attack by Pakistan-backed elements on the 218-km Zaranj-Delaram highway – a crucial road built with Indian assistance to serve as a link to Chabahar – to send out a message that the project is unviable.
Pakistan mischief cannot be ruled out !
India has extended a $150-million line of credit for making jetties and berths at Chabahar and put in place other measures for the project, including the supply of steel rails worth $400 million and technical assistance for building a railway line connecting Chabahar and Zahedan, located near the Afghan border. And also very close to the Pakistan border as well !

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Postby member_23370 » 22 May 2016 07:24

India should station some troops and fighter air crafts in Ayni to endure air support is available.

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Postby Falijee » 22 May 2016 07:28

Pakistan seeks NSG membership to curb nuclear proliferation :roll:

IMO the implication being that if it not allowed to sit on the table with the Big Boys then it will carry on nuclear proliferation ? Some sort of blackmail threat if its application for an = = status is rejected :mrgreen:

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Postby Gagan » 22 May 2016 07:58

Aren't some Mig-29s deployed at Ayni?

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Postby Hari Seldon » 22 May 2016 08:04

Piskology going global, BRF as usual ahead of 'em curves only.

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Postby Kashi » 22 May 2016 08:05

How long would it take for the deep sea operations at the Chabahar port to become operational?

It"s difficult to find out the status of the railway line connecting Zahedan to the Afghan border as well

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Postby Lisa » 22 May 2016 11:21

Falijee wrote:India Asks China To Stop Work In Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir
New Delhi: India has asked China to stop all work in parts of Jammu and Kashmir occupied by Pakistan, the external affairs ministry said on Friday.
"Pakistan-occupied Jammu and Kashmir is an integral part of India," external affairs ministry spokesperson Vikas Swarup said at his weekly media briefing here.
"Chinese activities in Pakistan-occupied Jammu and Kashmir have been taken up with the Chinese side, including at the highest level," he said.
Mr Swarup was responding to a question on India's stand on Chinese activities in the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, a large part of which falls within Pakistan-occupied Jammu and Kashmir.
China is believed to have made huge investments and is sponsoring development projects in Pakistan-controlled Jammu and Kashmir, including in the volatile Shia-dominated Gilgit-Baltistan area.
"We have asked them (the Chinese side) to cease all activities in Pakistan-occupied Jammu and Kashmir," Mr Swarup said.

It is high time that India hardens its stance on Chinese colonization of POK and Gilgit/Baltistan !


Emergency legislation needs to be drawn up to ban any entity which directly or via its subsidiaries invests in , provides financial instruments for or supplies materials and or machinery that is used in POK without an end user certificate from the Home Ministry in India will be liable to fines, sanctions and a ban from trading in India.

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Postby chetak » 22 May 2016 13:30

Lisa wrote:

{quote="Falijee"}India Asks China To Stop Work In Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir
New Delhi: India has asked China to stop all work in parts of Jammu and Kashmir occupied by Pakistan, the external affairs ministry said on Friday.
"Pakistan-occupied Jammu and Kashmir is an integral part of India," external affairs ministry spokesperson Vikas Swarup said at his weekly media briefing here.
"Chinese activities in Pakistan-occupied Jammu and Kashmir have been taken up with the Chinese side, including at the highest level," he said.
Mr Swarup was responding to a question on India's stand on Chinese activities in the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, a large part of which falls within Pakistan-occupied Jammu and Kashmir.
China is believed to have made huge investments and is sponsoring development projects in Pakistan-controlled Jammu and Kashmir, including in the volatile Shia-dominated Gilgit-Baltistan area.
"We have asked them (the Chinese side) to cease all activities in Pakistan-occupied Jammu and Kashmir," Mr Swarup said.{/quote}
It is high time that India hardens its stance on Chinese colonization of POK and Gilgit/Baltistan !


Emergency legislation needs to be drawn up to ban any entity which directly or via its subsidiaries invests in , provides financial instruments for or supplies materials and or machinery that is used in POK without an end user certificate from the Home Ministry in India will be liable to fines, sanctions and a ban from trading in India.


the entire new paki stance against India is driven by the fact that the chinese need the pakis to ram through the CPEC is spite of India's legitimate and lawful claims. The chinese are banking hard on the bad shariff + paki army to see them thru.

If there are repercussions at a later date, the pakis will be the fall guys.

The safety of the CPEC thru balochistan is also worrying the chinese. There are multiple actors at play there including the arabs and iran. The borders are not too secure and the security needs to be of a long term and permanent nature. This has all the makings of another syria like mess with multiple and hostile stakeholders and not just including the pakis and chinese.

It is like the illegitimate progeny of the illegitimate progeny.

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Postby Bhurishrava » 22 May 2016 13:56

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/m ... e-pakistan

Taliban leader Mullah Akhtar Mansoor meets his 72. Pakistan enraged by its violation once again

The US drone attack on the Taliban chief marks an extraordinary escalation of a campaign that has been a running sore in relations


The death of Mansoor is likely to enrage Pakistan, which had invested heavily in helping him secure the leadership of the Taliban after a power struggle broke out following the announcement of Omar’s death.


Ouch Ouch
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Postby Lisa » 22 May 2016 15:05

Chetak,

CPEC is a bluff. It is not viable because pukistan does not have the ability to provide the security for it nor the economic structures or infrastructure to absorb the investments. Put aside for the moment that as an Indian you may have some bias in how you think and ask yourself that in this large world, if you wanted to invest $40 Billion, would you think of investing it in pukistan? What sort of return would you have an expectation of and how secure do you think your investments would be. Other than building tarmac roads which the pukistanis can't steal what else is secure?

The legislation I have proposed must be passed as it is cost free. It costs India nothing to ban an entity and impresses upon others a reluctance to get involved, eg the proposed geospatial law will not really affect China but the pukis are screaming because they know that other nations (western) will comply as they convert the Indian marketplace ie by default they will begin to recognise Indian ownership of Kashmir and conversely denying pukistani authority over it.

You must make China complain because again by default they begin to recognise Indian authority in Kashmir. More to the point, larger transnational Chinese entities will have to reconsider potential long term interests in India vis-a-vis negligible profitability in pukistan.

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Postby Shaktimaan » 22 May 2016 15:23

If Mullah Mansoor Akhtar was living openly in Quetta (and regularly flying to Dubai etc) as the news reports say, we can conclude that the Amirkhans could have droned him at any time in the last few months.

The question is, what made the Amirkhans send him to his 72 now? Om Baba showing his naarazgi at the perfidious Pakis?

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Postby Falijee » 22 May 2016 15:50

Ugly Truth Why Census Is Not Being Taken Even After 20 Years: -Pakistan's population bomb: 240 million in 2030 :roll:
Fifteen-year-old Nasreen Qutubuddin beams happily at her mother, Haseena Bibi, and says: "Now that she is well all I want is to get some good uninterrupted sleep."
Belonging to Alipur village in Muzaffargarh, they made a 24-hour bus journey (and Ganja Sharif has no hesitation in sending his private plane to Kabul to pick up Gilani's son !) to reach Koohi Goth Women’s Hospital in Karachi to get the mother treated for a serious child-birth injury she suffered and which left her incontinent.
Nasreen says she had not slept fitfully in the last three years after her mother developed this condition while giving birth to her eighth child, who did not survive.
Being the eldest and a daughter, she'd have to get up every two hours in the night to change and wash her mother's clothes, she explained.
The daughter in a "normal country" would have been concentrating on her school studies; where is the Aam Abdul in the picture, who is responsible for this constant (marital) assault on the poor woman? why is he not being interviewed ?
But not anymore as Bibi is dry now. She is as happy as Nasreen but for a different reason. "As soon as I am up and about, I will get her married off. We had to delay it for too long because she was taking care of me, the house and her siblings," she explains.
Thinking of marrying off a 15 year old ?
...but Haseena says: "The custom is that a girl must be married off as soon as she gets her period."
Fortunately for Nasreen, once married, she does not plan to have as many kids. "I think I will have three or four," she said shyly.
In Pakistan, six million married women say they don't want more children or want to space births, but are unable to do so," says Dr Zeba Sathar, country director of the Population Council of Pakistan. This comes to one in four women with an unmet need. And like Nasreen, most married Pakistani women (and men) want not more than four children on an average.
If you want to look at it optimistically it is still better than 8 or 9 !
In Pakistan, six million married women say they don't want more children or want to space births, but are unable to do so," says Dr Zeba Sathar, country director of the Population Council of Pakistan. This comes to one in four women with an unmet need. And like Nasreen, most married Pakistani women (and men) want not more than four children on an average.
"It's a nightmare traversing main arteries in Karachi now; imagine what it will be like 15 years from now when Sindh's urban population will reach 50pc!" he exclaims.
Pakistan's population is growing by around 1.8pc a year but the economy has failed to keep pace with the population growth. At this pace and if the population growth does not slow down, it will outpace Indonesia by 2030 as the country with the largest Muslim population.
"Rapid population growth was an emergency twenty years ago; now the country should be in the disaster management mode, and doing something on a war footing," says Midhet who smells the same lack of "political will" in the present government towards arresting population that Tarar had blamed previous governments for after attending the National Population Summit in Islamabad on Nov 5 and 6.
Ticking (Islamic) Time Bomb as they say :mrgreen:
"As far as I know, Pakistan is the only country where population and health departments are working separately," says Thaver.
Malsi is a big factor in all of this, but no one is willing to say it !
Noted architect and urban development expert, Arif Hasan says the population residing in squatter settlements has now increased to 61pc or 1.2 million households. Energy use could quadruple; water will be an increasingly scarce resource.
"The kind of violence that you see today in Karachi, is just a trailer of what is to come in the not so far future," warned Midhet.
Thaver says he would want more emphasis on FP in the pre-service training of the doctors and nurses and the tertiary care hospitals. "They are not usually advocating or even offering FP services," he says.
Since the target is youth, Thaver says using social media, mobile phone technologies, free online help services would prove beneficial. Keeping social and cultural sensitivity in mind, age-appropriate discussions on the issue of ‘population explosion’ and its consequences can also be made part of the school educational curriculum.
All these high sounding technical solutions presuppose / assume a lot of things, applicable in a "normal" country, which Pakistan in not !
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Postby Falijee » 22 May 2016 16:03

Why Did Paki Army Hand Over Angoor Adda To Afghanistan
Border dispute at Angoor Adda resolved
PESHAWAR: Pakistan on Saturday handed over a multi-purpose built crossing facility at the Angoor Adda border in South Waziristan to Afghanistan.
Angoor Adda borders Afghanistan’s restive Paktika province.
The Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) issued a statement about this unprecedented development of handing over the border crossing point to Afghanistan.
“To strengthen the brotherly relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan and with a strategic intent to improve border management, the multi-purpose built crossing facility at Angoor Adda was handed over to the Afghan authorities on Saturday,” the statement said. It said that the gesture would act as a catalyst and was envisioned to bring momentum for establishing peace and stability along the Pakistan-Afghanistan order.
Pakistani security officials in Angoor Adda said that the senior military officers of both the countries had been engaged for the past a few months to resolve this longstanding claim of the Afghan government.
Pleading anonymity, a security official said Afghanistan had been claiming ownership of the border crossing point near the Pakistani border in Angoor Adda and this had affected relations between the two neighbouring countries.
He said Pakistan finally decided to hand over the border area to Afghanistan in a bid to improve its relations with it. It is the first time Pakistan handed over a piece of land to Afghanistan that it previously owned.
Though the ISPR didn’t mention if some residential and commercial areas were also returned to Afghanistan, the development aroused strong criticism from the local people living in the border area. Some of them said they would not accept Pakistan’s decision of handling them and their villages to Afghanistan without their consent.
The Paki Army does not have a "tradition" of consultation with the civilian population to explain its actions !
According to the tribal people, around 3,000 houses and 500 shops and markets are situated in the border area.
A local tribesman, Eidak Wazir said hundreds of tribesmen staged a protest on Saturday close to the border and rejected Pakistan’s decision of delivering them to Afghanistan.
“We are Pakistani nationals by birth and would never like to be called Afghan citizens. Our elders had given sacrifices for this area which Pakistan decided to return to Afghanistan without our consent,” he stressed.
He said that like him, all the tribespeople did not want to lose their Pakistani identity. He claimed Pakistan had agreed to deliver its 400-meter deep border area to Afghanistan.

In the larger context, no Afghan Govt has recognized this artificial line, drawn during the British Raj, dividing the same people on both sides; maybe, this is a prelude of things to come :mrgreen:

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Postby Falijee » 22 May 2016 16:58

Paki Illegal Migrants Prefer Greece Hellish Camps To Deportation To Ummah Brother Turkee :roll:
But Can Beggars Be Choosers :mrgreen:

'I'd rather die than be sent to Turkey': Why Pakistani migrants prefer Greece's hellish camps
The European Union has decided to send economic migrants to Turkey as part of a deal struck last month.


The Greek island of Lesbos is in full bloom during these spring days. The sun has warmed the Aegean Sea to swimming temperature.
By the port of Mytilene, I saw two young Pakistani men wash themselves in the salty seawater, before returning to the squatter camp where they have been living for the last few weeks.
I’ve been covering the story of migration to Europe for more than five years, but somehow, the Pakistani migrant workers in Greece feels like the last chapter
Dreading to go to "mulk" ?
They are not getting to Germany or the UK anytime soon. (Dreams shattered; like the recent load of bearded Abduls deported from Russia,- on the pretext of attending a sales conference there - hoping to use the "back door entry to Europe" ! The " green passport" is like a banned book all over the world ; no government is willing to import this "book" :mrgreen: ) The EU has decided instead to send economic migrants to Turkey from Greece as part of a deal struck last month.
Unlike others who are locked in a detention facility a few kilometres away, these young, mostly Pakistani, men spend days sitting on a hillside overlooking the sea playing Bhabhi (a card game) or volleyball.
During the cool nights, they gather around a fire and sometimes sing Pakistani songs.
At meal times, they receive simple dinners of rice or potatoes with vegetables and beans, provided by donations collected by European volunteers. Occasionally, volunteer Spanish lifeguards come by with bags of raisins or nuts.
When they appear, hundreds of young migrants run to the receiving line. Lolo from Madrid greets his Pakistani friends with hugs.
“They are some of the ones I saved from the sea,” he told me.

Surviving on the mercy of Dar-ul-Harb countries !
The people living at the camp are neither happy nor calm, probably the two things they left home in search for.
Instead, they are on constant alert, knowing that at any time the police may raid the camp, dragging the migrants to detention.
A spokesman from the mayor’s office told me that if they don’t go peacefully, police will have to be called in and migrants will be taken to the detention facility.
Even more threatening is the probability of being deported to Turkey which intends to sends migrants who do not meet asylum criteria back to their countries of origin, under readmission agreements. Last week, 326 migrants were deported, among them 200 Pakistanis.[/quote] Where there is "smoke" there is fire !
At the same time, Turkey has been working on the details of a readmission agreement with Pakistan, in order to implement a second wave of deportations from Turkey to Pakistan.
“My hair turned white due to the tension,” explained Ijaz, a 38 year-old father from Gujrat. The sole provider for his family (including two small boys, wife and elderly parents), he sold his family home to pay for the dangerous journey from Pakistan through Iran, Turkey and then by sea on small flimsy rubber boats to Greek islands like Lesbos.
Sitting on the rocks by the seaside, Ijaz told me: “I am a very poor man. My children have no good education, good clothes or good food.”
He covered his face with his hands, then looked at me forlornly. Like many others, he has lost hope. He is terrified to be deported back to Turkey, neither a safe country nor an easy place to find decent employment.
Hassan from Lahore, who spoke to me by telephone from inside the detention center, recounted how he was kidnapped in Istanbul. He told me that an Afghan man offered to help him find accommodation. The accommodation ended up being a basement apartment, where he was beaten and held for ransom, until more than a month later, his family paid 3,000 euros in ransom.
Other Pakistani men told me similar stories.
For these migrants, Greece — where they are treated as less than human, where they reside in sheds and eat food that the other inhabitants of the island country would not even touch — is still lesser of the two evils.
“We’d rather die than be sent back to Turkey. It is not a safe country,” they said.

Then there is the embarrassment / shame of returning back home to friends and family who will have to lots of questions to ask; like the recent Aam Abdul from a Pakjabi village near Multan who sold his land and car, borrowed money, went to Dubai with much fanfare and quietly returned back "as he did not like it there " !

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Postby Falijee » 22 May 2016 17:22

U.S. strikes top Taliban leader in Pakistan
he U.S. military launched a drone strike against Taliban leader Akhtar Mohammad Mansour on Saturday, the Pentagon said, dealing a potential blow to the group whose insurgent assaults pose a major obstacle to U.S. hopes for ending the war in Afghanistan.
A U.S. official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive military operation, said Mansour was likely killed in the operation, which took place around 6 a.m. Eastern time in a remote area near Ahmad Wal, a town in western Pakistan’s Baluchistan province. President Obama had authorized the operation, the official said.
The operation involved several unmanned American aircraft, and it struck a vehicle in which Mansour was traveling. A second passenger, who officials described as another combatant, was also probably killed, the official said, but a final assessment has not yet been made.
So, it was a targeted killing with reliable intelligence !
A senior Afghan Taliban commander told the Associated Press early Sunday that Mansour was killed in the attack. Mullah Abdul Rauf told the news agency that Mansour died in the strike late Friday night “in the Afghanistan-Pakistan border area.” U.S. officials have not confirmed Mansour’s death, but Afghanistan’s National Directorate of Security, as the secret service is known, said in a statement Sunday that he was killed at 3:45 p.m. on Saturday.
It appears that Afghan intelligence was probably in the know about this !
In recent weeks, Brig. Gen. Charles H. Cleveland, chief spokesman for coalition forces in Afghanistan, has stated that Sirajuddin Haqqani, who was named Mansour’s top deputy, has been taking a leading role in planning battlefield strategy.
Remains to be seen if ISI will elevate him to the leadership
“The United States may not be at war with the Taliban, but that doesn’t mean that the Taliban and especially its most senior leadership isn’t continuing to target U.S. and partner forces and facilities, and isn’t very destabilizing for Afghanistan’s future, which also threatens U.S. interests,” said Ambasssador Daniel F. Feldman, who was Obama’s special representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan until last year.
The ongoing insecurity has also prompted Obama, who came into office promising to end the long wars launched by his predecessor, to delay his withdrawal plans several times.
The US is playing the "good cop" "bad cop" scenario at the same time hoping that the Pakis get the message !
In Pakistan, Foreign Office spokesman Nafees Zakaria said, “I have seen the reports. We are seeking clarification. I reiterate Pakistan’s principled position that the Taliban must give up violence and come to negotiation table as called for by the QCG (Quadrilateral Coordination Group). I also reiterate that military action is not a solution.” :((
Obviously he is not kept in the loop by Deep State as to what is going on the "war front"
The American strike in Baluchistan, outside of the tribal regions where most U.S. air attacks have taken place, may introduce a new note of tension into U.S.-Pakistani ties.
According to the Long War Journal, which tracks airstrikes in Pakistan, this is the first time the United States has been reported to have conducted a strike in Baluchistan. All but two of its 392 strikes in Pakistan have taken place in the tribal regions along Pakistan’s border with Afghanistan.

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Postby Falijee » 22 May 2016 17:29

Taliban confirm Mullah Mansoor killed in US drone stike
KABUL: Afghan Taliban says the militant group's leader Mullah Akhtar Mansour has been killed in a U.S. drone strike, Geo News reported. According to the report a senior Taliban Commander Mullah Abdul Rauf told American News Agency Sunday that Mansour died in the... read more

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Postby Falijee » 22 May 2016 17:31

Blocking of $450m aid may affect Pak-US ties: FO

IMO, beggars cannot be choosers !

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Postby Gagan » 22 May 2016 19:10

ISPR will have to deploy its most frothing at the mouth media daarlings to spin away the droning and pest-e-shahadat of Mulla Man-suar.
Too bad their jernail jeehad is dead, but laal gazwa-e-hind, nimbu pani/chooha, ahmedi professors won't leave us disappointed.

Expect 400% gaalis and cursing to Amreeka, NDS, RAA, Doval etc :rotfl:

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Postby Prem » 22 May 2016 23:09

Sharif And Sharif have Queefed After Uncle Showed The Beef

Pakistani leadership knew about US drone strike against Afghan Taliban chief: FO
ISLAMABAD: The Foreign Office confirmed on Sunday that the Pakistani leadership had been informed about the United States (US) drone strike in the country, against the Afghan Taliban chief Mullah Mansour a day earlier.Mansour was reported killed in a drone strike in Balochistan near the Afghan border.According to the statement issued by the Foreign Office, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and Chief of Army Staff General Raheel Sharif were informed about the drone strike that likely killed Mansour.The statement says: “According to the information gathered so far, a person named Wali Muhammad S/o Shah Muhammad carrying a Pakistani passport and an I.D. Card, resident of Qilla Abdullah, entered Pakistan from Taftan border on 21st May. His passport was bearing a valid Iranian visa. He was travelling on a vehicle hired from a transport company in Taftan. This vehicle was found destroyed at Kochaki along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. The driver’s name was Muhammad Azam whose body has been identified and collected by his relatives. The identity of the second body is being verified on the basis of evidence found at the site of the incident and other relevant information.”
The statement adds that the drone attack was a violation of Pakistan’s sovereignty and said Islamabad wanted to remind the world that the fifth meeting of the Quadrilateral Coordination Group (QCG) held on May 18 had reiterated that a politically negotiated settlement was the only viable option for lasting peace in Afghanistan."John Kerry telephoned me yesterday night and told me about the drone strike," said Nawaz.The PM, however, added that such strikes are against the sovereignty of the state.Earlier on Sunday, US Secretary of State John Kerry also stated that he had notified Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif by telephone of a US drone strike that 'likely killed' Mullah Mansour.The Afghan leadership was also apprised of the strike ordered by US President Barack Obama, Kerry said.Separately, a member of the Quetta Shura, the Afghan Taliban's leadership council, told AFP that Mansour had been unreachable on his mobile phone since Saturday night.The drone attack came just days after representatives from the US, China, Pakistan and Afghanistan held another round of negotiations in Islamabad aimed at reviving long-stalled direct peace talks between the Afghan government and the Taliban.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Postby Shreeman » 22 May 2016 23:18

Jentlemen,

Bakistani so-so-virginity has been violated. Eleven jin peg will totally not marry her any more. So, can we find the four pious men for a jirga al shariya or will restoring the honor require usual goat husbandry methods? If bakistan were to decide to drown itsef in the sosovirginity loss and marraije failure sau-row, will the sea even agree to take its blace or shall we now make the earth square so kandle kissers can phall off the edge of the earth at wagah?

Edit -- I think what js torn with a drone can only be stitched back with an eff-sikhteen surgery. 8 eff-sikhteen 52 model suturing needles will be immediately needed before the wound gets inphekted. possibly before may 24. quickly, quickly! there is no time.
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Postby Prem » 22 May 2016 23:20

India — going ‘ballistic’?

All indicators suggest that India is in the process of developing a nuclear missile shield. This won’t be a defensive arrangement as the name might suggest but an offensive deployment of radars and ballistic missiles designed and deployed to take down incoming missiles at a far-off distance. Reportedly, India has already placed two long-range missile tracking radars (supplied by Israel) in New Delhi. This is the beginning of an accelerated process that will see India deploying radars and missiles to provide a nuclear missile shield to its major cities and join the list of countries that already have such shields for their cities, including Paris, London, Tel Aviv, Moscow, Beijing and Washington. Building this nuclear missile shield will require the deployment of hundreds of ballistic missiles. For this, India is simultaneously working on both indigenous development as well as imports. The current five-year import figures of heavy weapons by India, according to a report, are 140 per cent higher than the spending in this regard in the previous five years.
Forecast to spend $250 billion to upgrade its military in the next decade, the Modi government approved the setting up of a $1 billion facility to manufacture seeker systems — used to direct missiles in the final phase of targeting — by India’s Defence Research and Development Organisation at Hyderabad with Israel’s help. This cutting-edge technology will enable India to manufacture smart weapons indigenously in the long run. India’s Reliance Defence, owned by Anil Ambani, has also signed a manufacturing and maintenance deal worth $6 billion with Russia’s Almaz-Antey, a manufacturer of radars and air defence missile systems. India is also in the process of purchasing S-300 and S-400 long range surface-to-air missiles (LRSAM) from Russia. According to the Indian defence minister, a deal worth $4.5 billion has already been finalised between the two countries and Russia may supply five units of the S-400 LRSAM for induction into the Indian Air Force by 2017.The induction of the S-300 and S-400 can prove to be a big game changer. These missiles are renowned for making entire regions inaccessible to non-stealth combat aircraft and their deployment will definitely create a strategic imbalance and shift the existing balance of power in India’s favour. It is said that only the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor, F-35 and Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit stealth bombers can operate inside areas protected by these weapon systems. The Pakistan Air Force currently does not possess these flying machines and thus it will become difficult for it to penetrate an area where these weapons are employed as part of an integrated defence network — something India is planning to create. This layer would certainly include the indigenously produced Prithvi line of short, medium and long range SAMs.
We could rely on our own indigenously built SAMs such as the Shaheens or acquire more long-range SAMs such as the Chinese HQ-9. But the main worry of the security establishment at this stage would not be to look for ways to increase the deployment of SAMs in Pakistan to match those on the other side of the border, but in fact, to look for counter-measures that could help stress, defeat and deter Indian air defence capabilities, which in the next few years will pose a real challenge to Pakistan. Whether this can be done by buying stealth aircraft, long-range anti-radiation ships or by acquiring submarine-launched cruise missiles or air-to-surface missiles — all will cost money and considering that in the previous year we have spent $16 billion on debt servicing, $ 1.8 billion on Operation Zarb-e-Azb and with Americans now creating hurdles to extending military aid to Pakistan, it is going to be a tough task to cough up enough money to counter Indian conventional capabilities. The real question remains: should we take steps to create a balance vis-a-vis growing Indian military capabilities, and if so, how?. Today, India is aligned with American foreign policy — specifically the ‘pivot Asia policy’ — and is seemingly working with the Americans in implementing a part of that strategy by checking the growing Chinese influence in the region. This anti-China tilt, as a US-sponsored Indian policy, will over the years definitely become offensive, provocative as well as exploitative. Under such a regional environment, our growing ties with China will continue to send a strong message to not only the Indians but also the security establishment in Washington with whom we have currently fallen out of favour.
We must seek Chinese help in enhancing our nuclear deterrence by diversifying our nuclear strike capabilities and means of delivery by developing or acquiring the submarine-launched ballistic missile capability. India is likely to continue to enhance its military power to seek strategic military parity with China but this will only elevate the rivalry between the two nuclear-armed archrivals — India and Pakistan. I am sure our security establishment is well aware of the necessity of retaining a matching hard power capability against India and it must be doing everything to guarantee this, but it’s the poor state of our soft power, which is the other dimension of power politics, in which we lag behind. For this, our politicians will have to improve their performance and deliver in the areas of economy, diplomacy and peace-building.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Postby Shreeman » 22 May 2016 23:22

jhujhur,

i ducklayer myself your arch-rival. Prepare yourself for second strike cabapilities! We shall fight thrm in the hedge rows, ahem, if we havent eaten them for dinner already.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Postby Prem » 22 May 2016 23:49

Shreeman wrote:jhujhur,

i ducklayer myself your arch-rival. Prepare yourself for second strike cabapilities! We shall fight thrm in the hedge rows, ahem, if we havent eaten them for dinner already.


Let's see if they print my advice . 8)

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Postby Falijee » 22 May 2016 23:58

India-going-ballistic :mrgreen:

P.S. One burning question the political leaderships of both India and Pakistan need to ask: with such high scales of poverty and corresponding military expenditures, aren’t the two countries not Aam Abduls of Pakistan being exploited? And if so, by whom?[*]


[*]Answer: By the Paki security establishment dominated by the Pakjabis :mrgreen:

PPS: Now where in the Express Tribune Article / Farticle, is mentioned the honourable option available to Pakistan - to reciprocate the hand of friendship and live in peace with its neighbours ( India Iran and Afghanistan ); it is blindly obsessed with doing an = = and , if my prediction is right is either going to drive her the bankruptcy road and /or selling ( if is not already sold ) her sover-virginity to her 3.5 "friends"

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Postby Falijee » 23 May 2016 00:13

PM Nawaz, COAS Raheel knew about US strike on Mullah Mansour: FO

ISLAMABAD (Staff Report) – Foreign Office (FO) on Sunday confirmed that the Pakistani leadership was notified of the United States (US) drone strike on Afghan Taliban chief Mullah Mansour a day earlier.
According to a statement issued by the FO, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Raheel Sharif were informed about the drone strike that likely killed Mansour.
The statement adds: “According to the information gathered so far, a person named Wali Muhammad S/o Shah Muhammad carrying a Pakistani passport and an I.D. Card, resident of Qilla Abdullah, entered Pakistan from Taftan border on 21st May. His passport was bearing a valid Iranian visa. He was travelling on a vehicle hired from a transport company in Taftan. This vehicle was found destroyed at Kochaki along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. The driver’s name was Muhammad Azam whose body has been identified and collected by his relatives. The identity of the second body is being verified on the basis of evidence found at the site of the incident and other relevant information.”
The statement adds that the drone attack was a violation of Pakistan’s sovereignty and said Islamabad wanted to remind the world that the fifth meeting of the Quadrilateral Coordination Group (QCG) held on May 18 had reiterated that a politically negotiated settlement was the only viable option for lasting peace in Afghanistan

So Mullah Mansour, Taliban Head morphed into Wali Muhammad s/o Shah Muhammad, but obviously this did not fool the "eye in the sky"- the US spy machine and thus this "innocent Paki national " by accident was shot by a US Drone and in the process "violated Pakistan's sover-virginity :mrgreen:

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Postby Falijee » 23 May 2016 00:23

Police recover kidnapped Ukrainian woman from Tharparkar after 3-year
MITHI (Staff Report) – Police on Sunday recovered Ukrainian national woman from Tharparkar village allegedly kidnapped at least three years ago from Rawalpindi.
Law enforcement officials recovered Katrina, 31-year-old Ukrainian national, who was allegedly kidnapped about three years ago in Rawalpindi from the village of Katho in the limits of the Khensar police station.
According to police, the victim was not lured to the accused through social media but abducted.

What was she doing in the "village of Katho" and how did she come to Pakistan? as a "tourist"? ; or maybe she was a "war booty" earned by a Paki Mujahid in a foreign war zone and was later "traded" to another "non-state actor" based in the remote village of Tharparkar . Lots of unanswered questions that could keep an investigator very busy :mrgreen:

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Postby Prem » 23 May 2016 02:14

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... istan.html
The Hit on the Taliban Leader Sent a Signal to Pakistan
( Bruce' Riddlle)

Mullah Mansour was Pakistan’s man picked to lead the Afghan Taliban, and he was killed on Pakistani soil. Is this the beginning of a new U.S. strategy?The death of Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Mansour in an American drone strike is a significant but not fatal blow to both the Taliban and their Pakistani Army patrons. The critical question Afghans and Pakistanis are asking is whether this is a one-off or the beginning of a more aggressive American approach to fighting the war in Afghanistan.Mullah Mansour became the Taliban's leader last year after it was revealed his predecessor, Mullah Omar, the founder of the Taliban, had been dead for two years from unknown causes. Mullah Omar's death in a Pakistani hospital in Karachi had been covered up for two years by the Pakistani Army's intelligence service, the Inter Services Intelligence Directorate or ISI, and the cover-up allowed the ISI to manipulate the Taliban very effectively behind the scene. Mullah Mansour was the ISI's handpicked successor.

Since the fall of Kabul to American and allied forces after 9/11, the Taliban leadership has made its headquarters in Quetta, the capital of Baluchistan province in Pakistan. For 15 years the Quetta Shura, as the assembly of leaders is known, has been protected by the ISI in its Pakistani safe haven where it is free to plan operations, conduct training, raise money and prepare terrorist attacks to strike American, NATO and Afghan targets in Kabul and elsewhere. While drones pummeled Al Qaeda targets elsewhere in Pakistan, the Taliban leaders were immune.So this operation is unprecedented, the first ever effort to decapitate the Afghan Taliban. Mullah Mansour apparently was killed in Baluchistan very close to the Afghan border. He pressed his luck too far it appears. It's too soon to know the details of how he was found, but he was likely visiting front-line commanders.
The ISI will find a successor. They will work with the powerful Haqqani network, inside the Taliban, which has its own sanctuary in Peshawar Pakistan. The challenge will be to hold together the fractious movement, especially as the so-called Islamic State (ISIS) is trying to rally dissidents to its cause and create an Islamic State Vilayet, or province, in Afghanistan. The ISI and the Haqqanis are prepared to be ruthless to keep control of the Taliban.
The elected Pakistani government led by Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has been trying to persuade Mullah Mansour and the Quetta Shura to join in peace talks with the Afghan government, which is led by President Ashraf Ghani. The US and China have encouraged the political process. But Sharif has no power over the Pakistani military and its ISI minions. Indeed, now that Prime Minister Sharif is engulfed in a scandal caused by the Panama papers, his goal is simply to survive in office, and some Pakistani political commentators expect the army to oust Nawaz Sharif in a soft coup this summer. The Afghan peace talks are not likely to get going as long as the army calls the shots in Pakistan.The killing of Mansour in an unprecedented operation has produced elation in the Afghan security forces, who hope it does it actually does mark the start of more aggressive attacks against the safe havens in Pakistan. But that's probably a misplaced hope. A discreet operation in the border region is not the equivalent of hitting targets deeper inside Pakistani territory.
Inevitably, the attack will be another blow to U.S.-Pakistan relations, even if both Washington and Islamabad try to paper it over. The U.S. Congress, after years of passively accepting Pakistani duplicity, has become much less willing to fund arms deals and aid to the Pakistani army. A recent administration proposal to sell F16 jets to the Pakistani military at sweetheart prices has been killed, wisely, on The Hill.The next U.S. president will confront a complex and worrisome challenge in Afghanistan and Pakistan. It is not quite as bad as the disaster President Barack Obama inherited eight years ago, but it is one of the toughest foreign policy issues the next team will face. What do the candidates think they can do about it? It's not too early to start pressing them for answers.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Postby Anujan » 23 May 2016 06:53

ISI had spent considerable resources to prop up Mullah Mansoor. In fact ISI through threats and coercion stopped Mullah Omar's faction from splitting the taliban. ISI had also installed Siraj Haqqani has Mansoor's second in command. Remember that Haqqani network has never been touched by Pakistan and are pretty much Pakistan's clients.

It is unclear if ISI gave up Mullah Mansoor in response to American pressure on F16s, cutting off aid etc. If they did not give up Mansoor, US-Pak relations are going to nosedive further. If they did give up Mullah Mansoor, expect F16 and aid to magically start flowing. Recall that Mullah Mansoor was killed as soon as he crossed over to Pakistan from Iran, through a border crossing with a valid Iranian visa on a Pakistani passport. Which could mean either Iran gave him up (Iran has been warming up to Taliban to neutralize ISIS modules along its border and also to prevent Saudis from getting close to Taliban and to exploit them to cause nuisance in Iran), or ISI gave him up or Massa has penetrated border crossings.

Mullah Mansoor's 72 complicates issues. Siraj Haqqani now has the strongest claim for heading the Taliban. However, he is designated a foreign terrorist by Massa (taliban is not designated as a foreign terrorist organization, to facilitate dialog with Taliban). If bad Haqqani becomes Taliban president, Taliban might have to be designated as foreign terrorist organization. So out goes the chances for dialog.

Ashraf Ghani has finally woken up. Years were spent warming up to Pakistan, asking for dialog (despite India's warning to not trust Pakistan). However the damage might have already been done. He gave up TTP in exchange for Pakistan giving up Taliban. Pakistan did not reciprocate. He is the IK Gujral of Afghanistan.

Anyway, next few days will be interesting. Maybe it is in everyone's best interests to have a puppet nobody as head of the Taliban, with Siraj Haqqani running the real show.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2

Postby Prem » 23 May 2016 07:18

US strike crosses ‘red line’ on Balochistan
Stroke Vs Strike
SLAMABAD: The US drone strike targeting Taliban chief Mullah Akhtar Mansour was the first-ever in Balochistan, which has long been a ‘red line’ for Pakistan.Seventy-one per cent of the strikes took place in North Waziristan, while 23pc targeted areas in South Waziristan.The strikes in Bannu had prompted fears among the Pakistani leadership that the US could expand the theatre of drone warfare into the settled areas of Pakistan, i.e. outside the tribal region.“Even politicians who have no love lost for a dead terrorist are concerned by strikes within what is considered mainland Pakistan,” then US Ambassador Anne W. Patterson had conveyed to Washington after the drone strike in Bannu, leaked diplomatic cables had revealed.While the government kept condemning drone strikes all along, terming them a violation of Pakistan’s sovereignty, it had already conveyed a set of ‘red lines’ to the US in 2010, specifically mentioning attacks in Balochistan as a no-go area.A document at that time had, while defining the ‘red lines’ communicated to the Obama administration, stated explicitly: “No extension of drone attacks to Balochistan.”

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Postby Anujan » 23 May 2016 07:20

^^^
The question is whether massa crossing the red line has caused TFTAs to draw a brown line on their shalwars.

During Ashphuck's regime, Massa helicopters had flattened a border post which was covering Siraj Haqqani's movements. Ashphuck reacted with fury, closing Torkham border crossing for weeks. A flurry of high level visits, baksheesh and agreements later, the border crossing was reopened. Even then Pakis had indicated Siraj Haqqani was a no no.

Ofcourse Afghan intelligence at that time was very good, pre-Afghan IK Gujral days. They located Nasiruddin Haqqani and shot him in a bakery in ... wait for it ... Isloo of all places. Ofcourse the scene was quickly hosed down and nobody could explain what he was doing in a bakery in Islamabad. It is left to be seen if Ombaba has woken up and is using the last few months of his presidency doing what he should have done for 8 years. Distributing 72 virgins to Taliban and all their handlers.

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Postby SSridhar » 23 May 2016 08:06

Anujan wrote:It is left to be seen if Ombaba has woken up and is using the last few months of his presidency doing what he should have done for 8 years.

Obama said the following while running for Presidency, " . . . if Islamabad is ‘unable or unwilling’ to take militants out, then the US should go after the targets into Pakistan" for which Joe Biden, another contender, said, "You don`t say that out loud. If you have to do things, you have to do things... ". They have been both President & Vice President respectively and the US behaved pretty much as they have done since the 1950s wrt Pakistan. Of course, credit must be given for Op. Geronimo.

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Postby Kashi » 23 May 2016 08:12

The halaakat of Mansour does throw a few new questions

1. Who takes over Taliban, will it be Sirajuddin Haqqani?

2. If Haqqani does take over, will US go after him? Or is that the new red line?

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Postby sum » 23 May 2016 08:40

Anujan wrote:Ashraf Ghani has finally woken up. Years were spent warming up to Pakistan, asking for dialog (despite India's warning to not trust Pakistan). However the damage might have already been done. He gave up TTP in exchange for Pakistan giving up Taliban. Pakistan did not reciprocate. He is the IK Gujral of Afghanistan.

Is this why TTP IED-mubaraks nosedived after 2010-2011 timeframe?

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Postby Prem » 23 May 2016 08:55

No congratulations to South Asia on successful launch of South Asian Space Shuttle ?

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Postby abhik » 23 May 2016 09:24

Was this Taliban "aviation minister" the same guy who was seen in India in a photo with chidambaram a couple years back?

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Postby SSridhar » 23 May 2016 09:26

Kashi wrote:The halaakat of Mansour does throw a few new questions

1. Who takes over Taliban, will it be Sirajuddin Haqqani?

2. If Haqqani does take over, will US go after him? Or is that the new red line?

My 2¢

1. From my six month old post,
The Afghan Taliban is split into three groups. One that is loyal to ISI and ISI-imposed leadership Akhtar Mansour (dead? or, alive?, certainly grievously injured) who is also supported by Ayman al Zawahiri and Sirajuddin Haqqani (though he seems to be ambivalent but is forced by ISI nevertheless); two the group within the Taliban that opposes the imposed leadership and this comprises such people as Abdul Qayum Zakir (Taliban’s military commander), Tayab Agha (son-in-law of Mullah Omar and who heads the Doha office of the Taliban), Mohammed Yacoub (Mullah Omar's son), Mullah Abdul Manan (Mullah Omar's brother), Qari Baryal (head of the Peshawar Shura Military Commission of the Taliban) et al.; three the group that has pledged support to IS which comprises some Taliban commanders and warlords there were reports of Hizb-e-Islami of Gulbuddin Hekmatyar joining this group though it is unclear).


IMO, Haqqani might be reluctant to takeover as Taliban Emir. He is not a Taliban. The Haqqanis were always warlords. Though they have provided unstinted support to the Taliban cause, it was always from outside. I do not think that they have it in them to look beyond their immediate fiefdom. However, Pakistan would love him to become the Emir as there is nobody else more loyal to them than he. But, he may not be accepted by the rest of the Rahbari Shura because the Haqqanis are Ghilzais and the Taliban leadership is Durrani. Ideally, it must be somebody from the bolded part, but Pakistan may not like most of them. There is a real possibility of a fracture now though that would be a blow to the QCG, the group that is invested with getting the Taliban and the Afghan government to work out a deal. However, the QCG may hand over this task to Pakistan allowing it to play the usual games.

2. Haqqani was drafted into the Taliban leadership only to save him from the US drones under the threat that if anything happened to him, the peace talks would be affected. Now that no talks are on-going and there seems to be no possibility of their resumption immediately, a window exists for the US to go after him. The US *MUST* do so. He is the greatest danger, not only for Afghanistan but also for the region, most especially for India.

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Postby Kashi » 23 May 2016 10:09

^^ But aren't the Afghan taliban chiefly dependent on TSPA and ISI to carry out their activities in Afghanistan? Now that TTP is in a retreat, there's less likelihood of TTP and Afghan Taliban joining hands, at least in the short term. So the TSPA can tell the "good" Taliban to either accept their choice of emir or face the music, within and across Pakistan's borders. The "good" taliban may have to think long and hard on that one.

Conversely, one of the biggest leverage that Pakis had over the good Taliban was they could protect them from US/NATO/Afghan forces and allow them to operate across the Durand line from their sanctuaries in occupied Balochistan as long as the "good" Taliban's jihad was closely aligned with Paki interests. Now with Mansour being taken out, the ability of TSPA to guarantee their protection will no longer appear so iron clad to the Taliban leadership. That will sow in a few doubts and hopefully, set the cat amongst the pigeons and in a struggle for dominance various Taliban factions will go after each other and the pyrrhic victor will emerge to lord over the ruins.

The "good" Talibs would particularly take a long hard look at the reports that both the civvies and the "boys" were informed about the drone strike (also confirmed by the Paki FO themselves). Yet unlike in the past, there were no covert or overt warnings to scoot before the national bird came calling. This could mean any number of things.

1. The Talibs (and the Haqqanis) will conclude that TSPA and ISI are no longer capable of protecting them now or in the future, when unkil's drones come calling. They may think that the squeeze on funding and F-16s is twisting the shrivelled TSPA balls and they are willing to allow few key talibs to be martyred, so that the tap is turned on again.

2. The talibs may see this as a message. It's possible that Mansour had some plans of his own that the "boys" did not approve of and he was offed by tipping off Unkil to send a message to the rest to toe the line or line up outside the gates of jannat.

3. With the Indo-Iran agreement on Chabahar finally moving ahead, TSPA realise that they need the "good" talibs more than ever, the "good" talibs too would have recognised this. So regardless of the scenarios above, they'll feel emboldened enough to ask the TSPA and ISI to cough up more (money, men, weapons, women, sharia) if the "good" talibs are to do their bidding.

It's curious to note that Mansour was returning from Iran, legitimately. I wonder if Mansour realised that the Chabahar development had suddenly enhanced his leverage with both the TSPA and Iran and his visit was trying to play both against each other and carve out a space beyond what his handlers intended for him and thus his dispatch to hell.
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