Levant crisis - III

abhik · Post by **abhik** » 13 Apr 2018 02:03

rsingh wrote:Mrs May has sent Sub to missile attack range. what is that range? What if Russia sinks UK sub? What will be UK's response? Nuke Russia......nop. what else........shout at UNSC?

Singha wrote:RAF a/c have landed at akitori the place they stole from cyprus.

SyAF has moved aircraft to russian bases.

Unless the big gorilla starts swinging the poodles wont do shyte, The UK sub will hit rock/collide with a vessel soon or later and limp back home.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 13 Apr 2018 08:59

Mattis says GOTUS does not have proof that sarin and chlorine were used....yet Macron says france has proof ... from where is unknown.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/ru ... ibly-iran/

some russian heavies may have forward deployed to western iran or dispersed to another base in russia - usually they are concentrated in engels afb.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 13 Apr 2018 09:04

https://theaviationist.com/2018/04/11/s ... ian-coast/

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 13 Apr 2018 09:09

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BREAKING: Washington and Moscow are now secretly negotiating about incoming airstrikes against #Syria|n military infrastructures. In exchange for #Russia's permission, #US will only carry out large scale cruise missile strike against some of already evacuated bases of Syrian Army

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BREAKING: Despite extremely limited combat capability of #RoyalAirForce, #UK has intension to carry-out a political airstrike against #Syria during which Syrian MOD building which is already evacuated in #Damascus can be a target for SCALPs launched from #RAF's Tornado GR.4s.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 13 Apr 2018 09:11

DT gets to look strong an divert from his open fly problems
Putin gets to say look we saved you from descruction to Assad
Assad gets to continue with his business of winning the land war in daraa and western Idlib and use a couple shiploads of cement to rebuild
the two poodles get to dance about saying we helped, we helped, we matter - we are global powers
syrian people rally behind their leaders
Israel is told the syrian AD has been degraded by 90% so Bibi gets to tell his flock they are safe
china will call for restraint
india will say nothing as usual

all win win onree

the Douma jihadists do NOT get to stay....they are continuing to be bussed to Jarablous and they move on to a unknown future ... HTS will cut them down if they show noses in Idlib.

perhaps they will be rebadged as SDF by NATO & GCC and put to work east of euphrates in deir azzor . they need food and work, and are good at only one type of work.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 13 Apr 2018 14:14

Washington post

The Kommersant newspaper quoted anonymous Defense Ministry sources as saying that the general staff of Russia’s military was in touch with the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff and expected to receive coordinates on airstrike targets from the Pentagon to avoid Russian casualties.

brar_w · Post by **brar_w** » 13 Apr 2018 14:53

Must say this is getting quite amusing now that we are throwing random tweets into the mix as well (tactical nukes, and wanting US missiles to strike Russians was not enough apparently). Of course, Any strikes, if they happen at all, will require the US and allies informing the Russians of them in advance as they have agreed to this and it is in both side's interest to inform each other. That said, this arrangement is for the benefit of the US and Russia (or other parties who have mutually agreed to do this) and the troops in the region. It didn't really work out all that well for the Iranian UAV units last week.

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Singha · Post by **Singha** » 13 Apr 2018 15:09

seen on themess forums:

Seems Bolton and Mattis are butting heads, meanwhile opcw arrived and will begin work on Saturday, also there's a rumor on Twitter that there's back door communication between the U.S. and Russia to allow the U.S. Navy to bomb some already evacuated bases and claim mission accomplished, suspected chemical weapons base destroyed now lets go home.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 13 Apr 2018 15:10

attack by palestinian militias have started on yarmouk camp, with tiger forces and SRG yet to be committed but available.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 13 Apr 2018 15:46

"As Theresa May gears up for war in Syria,we should remember what hypocrites we are about war in the Middle East"
Robert Fisk.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/th ... 00881.html

As Robert Fisk exposes the West's hypocrisy over chem warfare when during the Iran-Iraq War in the '80s,Saddam used gas against "Persian insects",supplied by the US for 'agricultural" purposes.When Saddam again gassed the Kurds,the CIA said that one should report that it was the Iranians who did it! All reporting of the use of chem weapons supplied by the West (Germans too,experts in their field remember?) was suppressed as saddam was the West's "good guy"! I have a book on "How the West armed Saddam".It is such a shocking eyeopener to see the huge list of Western cos. that supplied him with everything reqd. for a hellish war.When he later on refused to play ball with the US,they turned on him and finally hanged him after a kangaroo court of a trial.

The hypocritical British now want to go to war with Assad after their false flag attack was conducted.read all about the truth of Ghouta here:.where the "white helmets" went to town. The false flag attacks were forewarned by Russia and Syria and according to this report,western agents and their cronies have bene captured and are spilling the beans which is why the West is desperate to go to war!
https://www.deccanchronicle.com/opinion ... houta.html

[quote]In the course of that military action, the Syrian Army captured intelligence officers working out of a full-fledged control room in Ghouta. This, as I indicated in an earlier paragraph, is what was “special” about Ghouta. “American, Saudi, Israeli, Jordanian intelligence officers were in Assad’s captivity.” And, who knows, under pressure, they may sing like canaries.
/quote]

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 13 Apr 2018 21:55

The Novichk Story of Skripal poisoning is amusing indded , Amusing because a Military Grade poison aka military-grade nerve agent of any type would kill a person between seconds to minute ......Imagine in Syria where Cholorine Gas which is not even in banned list of Chemical Agent by CWC is suppose to kill 60 and injure 500 as per WHO

But in Britain a Mil Grade Nerve Agent attack was not only detected in time by UK Medical Service ( imagine trying to find out which chemical agent is used all in matter of minutes and to find out a mil grade type is used ) and a suitable Antidote is available again on time to save both the father and sister that were under attack.

Even the police man who rescued them was well in few days , This is assuming as First Responder immediated figured out it was a chemical weapon attack and all took suitable measure to prevent themself getting affected.

This must be one Miracle Story of Nerve Agent of Military Grade whose Victim was first poisoined/attacked , was rescued , medical facility figured out the right anti-dote ( assuming it was available right on time which itself is a miracle ) and all managed to surivive the attack on time !

Truly Miracle happens in the World , Only the Chlorine gas attack victim die in Dozen all flimed on Camera by White Helmets again on Time

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 13 Apr 2018 21:58

Russia Has "Irrefutable Evidence" UK Staged Syrian Chemical Attack - Lavrov

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04- ... cal-attack

chanakyaa · Post by **chanakyaa** » 14 Apr 2018 07:02

Unconfirmed:
Mezzeh Military Airport has been attacked by the airstrikes on Syria
Barzeh district in Damascus hit in mijjle attacks,

saip · Post by **saip** » 14 Apr 2018 07:17

What difference does it make how people are killed -- by conventional weapons or by chemical weapons. They die horribly either way. This attack is another Donald 'Golden Shower' Trump's way of deflecting attention from his domestic problems.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 14 Apr 2018 07:41

Gen. Mattis speech didn't look like his heart was behind it.
Now Gen Dunford is talking mechanically.
Not the zing that was there in 2001 type briefings.
9 locations :
3 ports Latakia, Tartus and Banyas
3 airports: Al-Assad. Aleppo, Althias
2 Airbases: Hmeymim and Al Shayrat
Operations complete.
One SAM was fired from Syria.

Already informed Russians about targets.
Some reporters asking Mattis about previous response that chemical weapons were not used.
He now says he is confident.

Don't know what UK and France are doing.

chanakyaa · Post by **chanakyaa** » 14 Apr 2018 07:43

Looks like Britsh!ts dropped some mijjiles on pre-arranged sites near Homs...
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/984971339009228802

Unconfirmed: Syrian air defenses have down 13 missiles in the area of al-Kiswah, located south of Damascus

Looks like the party is over.. enough material to sell useless news talk shows/hosts over the weekend.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 14 Apr 2018 07:55

Can you post the links to unconfrimed report.

BBC said same.
120 fired and 13 shot down. Comes to 107.

Mattis said double the number last year. That is 108.

saip · Post by **saip** » 14 Apr 2018 08:02

Tomorrow Syria will claim over 200 civilians dead and over 500 civilians injured by this barbaric attack. They may even produce the bodies. They may even claim US and allies attacked a vaccine factory, a medical equipment plant and a chicken farm.

All day CNN was talking about 'Golden Showers' and Comey book. Now they are only talking only about this attack.

saip · Post by **saip** » 14 Apr 2018 08:03

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Dupe

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 14 Apr 2018 08:09

The attacks have come a day before the intl. chem body was to investigate the alleged attacks! The strikes had to stop that from happening to prevent the truth from coming out that the alleged chem attacks were either faked or false flag.Russia said that there was no evidence of any such attack.All we've seen is media clips " wag the dog" style?

For Trump it takes the heat off his acute personal problems afflicting his presidency and the release of a book by former trusted insider that he was eqjiv. to a " mafia boss" and congenital liar living in his own world of make believe.We now wait for the Russian response.Putin is not a madman like Trump but his credibility is at stake here.

PS:latest.Ru ambassador."There will be conseqjences".
"You can't insult the Russian president " and the US which possesses chemical weaponx has no moral right to preach to others..

kiranA · Post by **kiranA** » 14 Apr 2018 08:10

Never has america looked this weak morally. Tirades against syrian refugees that filled Trump speeches and his supporters articles for all purposes puncture the rhetoric against"inhuman" atrocities - you cant claim to bomb on behalf of those very people you portray as undersirables. Taking almost 5 days after threatening atttacks within 24-48 hours showed america as weak. I wont be surprised if Trump is impeached or maybe US is not going to take itself seriously anymore.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 14 Apr 2018 08:14

KiranA

Did you see Mattis face?

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Apr 2018 08:17

Be interesting to see what was attacked in hymenim and why russians did not respond

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Apr 2018 08:33

https://mobile.twitter.com/MarkWeisbrot ... 56/video/1

Manas · Post by **Manas** » 14 Apr 2018 08:43

It is a pin prick. Wag the dog. I was worried about Ms. Hillary Clinton because she is a closet neo-con. Trump let the U.S. military coordinate with the Russians in the early part of his administration and hit ISIS hard but off late his utterances and Syria policy seems utterly incoherent. The moment John Bolton signed up to be the NSA - Trump basically broke all his campaign promises and commitment of not getting into mindless wars.

So they hit 3 sites.

1) R & D facility close to Damascas.

2) A "storage" facility near Homs that they kind of admitted didnt have any weapons or precursors. They chose this "carefully" to ensure chemicals do not leak. So the irony is that you cant hit a chemical weapons storage facility because hitting instantly turns a WMD in "storage" to real WMD that is detonated.

3) Another "storage" facility is close to the 2nd.

Usual - "we used normal deconfliction channels" and didnt tell the Russians where/when we are going to hit. The Russians probably had all the coordinates, passed this on to the Syrians and were probably drinking Vodka in their bases.

I am amazed by how patient the Russians have been over the last few years despite grave geo-political provocations and ganging up by the West and Nato. I am getting worried that one of these days they might decide to let loose and before we know it we might end up with a nuclear war. The last thing i expected under a Trump regime.

Scary and bizzare situation at the same time.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Apr 2018 08:48

Mattis put an end to this weeks drama by saying it was one off shot.

On to the next 4 am tweet by el presidante....

This officially ends the syrian civil war with assad as the victor west of euphrates

The planned daraa and al ghab plains offensives will launch now

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 14 Apr 2018 08:53

Hitting at Poodle-istan and sending some missiles up the neo- Napoleon pretender, the Macaroon, by striking at their mil. and territorial assets in the Meditt. is a likely prospect.US forces in the Levant on land at risk too.
There is no way that Russia will hold back.
The Sinhala and Tamil New Year has begun very inauspiciously.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 14 Apr 2018 08:54

More
The missiles were coming from the East not from the Mediterranean sea.

First wave now is over.
More attack waves are expected.

https://twitter.com/waelalrussi

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 14 Apr 2018 09:07

Hitting at Poodle-istan and sending some missiles up the neo- Napoleon pretender, the Macaroon, by striking at their mil. and territorial assets in the Meditt. is a likely prospect.US forces in the Levant on land at risk too.
There is no way that Russia will hold back.
The Sinhala and Tamil New Year has begun very inauspiciously.

If from the east then most likely from the US/UK bases at Bahrein.Imagine the chaos to global oil if Russia strikes at their bases in Bahrein.Are we about to see the Bears, Backfires and Blackjacks launching theiir stand-off LRCMs?

Anant · Post by **Anant** » 14 Apr 2018 09:18

Philip,

Whatever you're smoking or drinking, please send some of that stuff to me. I know you're a Russian sycophant but even the Russian military doesn't think like you. We just hit Damascus tonight and your Russians did diddly squat. Also, let's see when giraffe neck decides to gas more kids again. And oh Ramana, people in their 70s don't look super chippy at 1030 p.m. local time considering they've probably had little sleep the past few days.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Apr 2018 09:35

We just hit Damascus tonight and your Russians did diddly squat.

who is "we" ? I suggest you speak for yourself or clearly identify which horse you are astride.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Apr 2018 09:38

a vast pro-assad rally is expected today in damascus .... as morning dawns ....

https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/stat ... 7036237825

DT has ensured assad will continue to rule, while he needs to watch out for being a 1term wonder

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Apr 2018 09:42

so the syrians did not waste their time blazing away with AA guns but went at it with S200, SA6 and Pantsyr systems cued by their own + russian sensors.

pix are starting to emerge of missiles that fell off or shot down. Cheen away-teams must be going around with bags of cash to buy up for further studies.

Anant · Post by **Anant** » 14 Apr 2018 09:47

Singha, we = America. Believe it or not, many Indians live in the US and are quite content supporting our cultural homeland, India, and our adopted homeland, the United States. And there are quite a few of those on BRF. I don't see the corollary of Indian Russians, i.e. Indians who live in Russia on here. Anything else?

Admin Note: "We just hit Damascus tonight"? Off for a week, for being too pompous

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 14 Apr 2018 09:49

Syrian SAM in action not sure which one looks slow could be S-200 ...any ways interesting part is they did not turn of electricity during the strike , Something i saw happening very common in Gulf War

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 14 Apr 2018 09:49

None of US & allied missiles entered Russian anti-air defense zones – Russian Defense Ministry

https://www.rt.com/news/424099-syria-mi ... ian-zones/

Karthik S · Post by **Karthik S** » 14 Apr 2018 09:53

Anant wrote:Singha, we = America. Believe it or not, many Indians live in the US and are quite content supporting our cultural homeland, India, and our adopted homeland, the United States. And there are quite a few of those on BRF. I don't see the corollary of Indian Russians, i.e. Indians who live in Russia on here. Anything else?

that is your choice. do not assume you are part of any collective "we" on any thread barring perhaps a few like sports.

Anant sir, you are accepted there so may be you may think you belong there. But this is Bharat Rakshak forum. So when you come here and post "WE", its obvious meaning is that your "we" is talking about Indians. Next time on BRF say "we Americans" or "we Brits" hit someplace so that others will know where you are coming from.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Apr 2018 09:54

Anant wrote:Singha, we = America. Believe it or not, many Indians live in the US and are quite content supporting our cultural homeland, India, and our adopted homeland, the United States. And there are quite a few of those on BRF. I don't see the corollary of Indian Russians, i.e. Indians who live in Russia on here. Anything else?

thats your choice. but this thread or BRF itself is not populated by majority of PIO, its majority RI hence do not assume "we" when you speak of american decisions or actions.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Apr 2018 09:55

@CivMilAir

some kind of large drone looking at height, perhaps russian or iranian in tests

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Apr 2018 09:57

global hawk off lebanon coast

https://twitter.com/cencio4/status/984932306027720707

it has a 90 azimuth sensor of 250km optical or radar range not sure which probably sar radar