Levant crisis - III

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 19 Oct 2018 10:25

So basically US-led Oded Yinon plan is to lay to waste all areas they occupy like libya, iraq

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Postby Singha » 19 Oct 2018 10:38

https://twitter.com/sibeledmonds/status ... 1789722625

take it fwiw but this guy has found some old pix and claims the deceased khashoggi(who is related to the arms dealer older khashoggi) was in mujahideen in younger days and worked with the CIA-saudi combine.
he might have been a american asset hence the concern expressed from the potus level on down ?

the turks may have seen the plot coming and let the murder happen to close the monkey trap on mbs. or they did not sense the plot, but later realized who it was and pivoted to capitalize on it?

if a asset gets hit like this, his overlords must show anger and inflict some pain, lest other assets lose hope and turn n burn?

almost nobody gets asylum in the US on any ground. how did he get asylum in the US so easily by just writing a few articles on MBS when even high ranking saudi princes like alwaleed bin talal who owns large stakes in western MNCs and has breakfast lunch dinner with the western elite was hung upside down and thrashed until he ransomed himself out ?

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Postby habal » 19 Oct 2018 10:46

Jamal Khashoggi, claims fareed zakaria, was the saudi pointman who took him around Riyadh when Fareed zakaria went visiting to Saudi. So JK is truly an american asset.

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Postby Singha » 19 Oct 2018 10:51

so ground situation is a murican asset got butchered on NATO territory. this will have an effect on other moles and assets they have in middle east.

erdogan has already jailed/exterminated 100s of alleged gulenists in the 'coup' purges. fathullah gulen also mysteriously got residency and lives in virginia iirc.

other than israel, iran and hezbollah , no satrap in the middle east would have dared lift one finger on murican assets in the old days.

perhaps it is a deliberate test to check the american response + vindinctive nature of mbs ? that large suitcase carried back in diplomatic status by the intel colonel may have contained his head in a wicker basket good old british style.

why did he need such a huge suitcase for what proved to be a 1 day trip. a normal man would not need it for a week long vacation
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Postby habal » 19 Oct 2018 10:52

al tubaiqi, not mbbs, he is mbs doctor

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Postby Singha » 19 Oct 2018 10:56

turk media has started spreading rumours that the saudi AF intel Lt in the team was mysteriously deceased in a car accident in riyadh. no confirmation.
they are having a field day with daily selective leaks , lifting the burqa an inch a day.

turk police are searching a forest north of istanbul and a warm springs area off sea of marmara where that black van was noted moving around.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby uskumar » 19 Oct 2018 13:26

It seems there is a change in stance of Trump on the killing.


Trump threatens“very severe” consequences if the Saudis are found to have murdered him.
Could we see a regime change or atleast MBS being replaced as king in waiting

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Postby Singha » 19 Oct 2018 14:33

my prediction is kushnerji may fail to argue for MBS this time. if he was a culinary agency asset of long standing, they would look to take advantage and plead their own case in the durbar. agent jack ryan series on prime has good footage of such durbars....the few people who have direct access to potus guard it strongly and act as gatekeepers. generally potus may even join in via video conference while agency heads (culinary, feds, treasury, DHS, FEMA , foggie bottom, DIA , pentagon types, JSOC head, NSA ...) get a seat at the table... dept heads and the odd specialist like jack ryan-ji have a second row of seats along the wall and are asked to speak only if required.

secy of state, secy of defence, NSA and the CIA and FBI heads are perhaps the most powerful next to potus. as a P1 with a global empire to run, security oriented chiefs have a outsize power vs the more vanilla things like agriculture or industry which are well run machines not needing much oversight.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Avtar Singh » 20 Oct 2018 03:02

The old khashog.. was his uncle, he was a dealer in certain types of equipment!
At the time he owned the largest yacht in the world....
which he sold to Trump!

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Anant » 20 Oct 2018 03:39

Yes his ole uncle Adnan. Life styles of the rich and famous arms dealers circa 1980s and 1990s. Flesh trade of white women included.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby ramana » 20 Oct 2018 03:56

uskumar wrote:It seems there is a change in stance of Trump on the killing.


Trump threatens“very severe” consequences if the Saudis are found to have murdered him.
Could we see a regime change or atleast MBS being replaced as king in waiting



I think Jamal K janam kundli was revealed to DT.

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Postby kit » 20 Oct 2018 04:19

ramana wrote:
uskumar wrote:It seems there is a change in stance of Trump on the killing.


Trump threatens“very severe” consequences if the Saudis are found to have murdered him.
Could we see a regime change or atleast MBS being replaced as king in waiting



I think Jamal K janam kundli was revealed to DT.


the severe consequences will be very well watered down by generous saudi arms purchases .. when did we last see a saudi regime change on humanitarian grounds ..not going to happen

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 20 Oct 2018 07:28

All is well

Gen Asiri retired and 18 detained by mbs

A fist fight led to his death :mrgreen:

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 20 Oct 2018 08:29

DAILY SABAH

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UPDATE — Royal court adviser Al-Qahtani and Deputy Intelligence Chief Ahmed Asiri sacked from their positions, Saudi Arabia says after confirmation of Khashoggi's death
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Without a word to clarify what a forensic expert and 14 other Saudi officials (one of them recently killed in an "accident" in Riyadh) arriving in Istanbul on 2 private jets were doing right before Khashoggi was killed, the Kingdom says 18 arrested so far


^^^ the accident guy may have been preparing to make a run for safety to a western consulate and tell all.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby UlanBatori » 21 Oct 2018 04:01

Did I already post the RT.com snippet that the sawing/autopsy was done while "patient" was still very much alive and conscious? That was the need for the musical headphones for the other participants. :shock:
It is also why Erdogan had such interesting AUDIO confirmation that he was dead.
Of course they took the buzz-saw and other implements in there predicting that he would attack them and they would have to kill him in total self-defence. "Stand ur ground". Totally in agreement with US law in Florida. :roll: How misphortunate onlee!!
Now I understand why the name "Adnan" kept coming out of the Search Injun when I typed "Khashoggi" into the vacuum database between my ears. Relative of one of the richest men in the dunia!!!

WTH can US do to MBS I wonder? Remember that there was a "non-coup" attempt in Riyadh involving a couple of hours of heavy weapon fire around the Palace? The gyan then was that MBS was saved by his US-supplied protection service. A Diem-type replacement? No wonder market news is saying that attention is turning to MidEast.
As for the sudden arrest of 18 ppl for accidentally happening to be standing around when Khashoggi got violent and hit his head on the wall. :rotfl: Sounds like the story where Stalin misplaced his watch, then found it in his coat pocket - but not b4 500 dissenters had confessed and been executed for stealing it.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 21 Oct 2018 04:20

This asiri is the pointman for the brutal air campaign
In yemen he used to give briefings

Now he can retire in comfort and live happy so long as he holds omerta else the bone saw will talk

Soon a anon tip will point turks to the remains and a funeral will occur for closure

This dawg and pony show is done

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 21 Oct 2018 09:40

a disillusioned former palace courtier in riyadh now surely safely in the west is making a load of delicious revelations

https://twitter.com/Saudi_Bodyguard

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 21 Oct 2018 10:42

Ever since S300 installation Israel is very quiet. No gliding bombs thrown from Lebanon airspace into Syria anymore. Wonder why they got spooked, esp since Israeli minister Lieberman made brave declaration that Israel will not be deterred by the S300 and attack Syria nonetheless.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 21 Oct 2018 11:19

Pepe Escobar’s scoop — mohammad bon saw (MBS)
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EXCLUSIVE: THE JARED OF ARABIA-BONE SAW CONNECTION
Once again my best House of Saud-connected source RE-CONFIRMED Mohammed Bone Saw (MBS) received direct info on CIA assets in Saudi Arabia from his close whatsapp pal Jared of Arabia.

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Postby Singha » 22 Oct 2018 17:13

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/22/midd ... index.html

the turks have out up cctv imagery saying a member of the 15 member team named Al-madani acted as a body double and exited the consulate wearing Khashoggis clothes by the back door

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby chetak » 23 Oct 2018 19:14

Jamal Khashoggi: murder in the consulate





Jamal Khashoggi: murder in the consulate

After days of denial, Saudi Arabia has now said that the writer Jamal Khashoggi died in a ‘fist fight’ at its Istanbul consulate. Martin Chulov pieces together events surrounding this death and the investigation, and links to Riyadh’s controversial crown prince


Sun 21 Oct 2018

The Saudi Arabian consulate in Istanbul is a homely looking place, much smaller than it seems, nestled into a quiet suburban street, and painted pastel yellow. Were it not for a giant steel door and a green flag flying on the roof – both sporting two large swords – it could easily be an Ottoman-era cottage like many nearby.

Police barriers to the left of the building mark a point where visitors gather before being allowed through to apply for visas or tend to official business. On 2 October one Saudi citizen, Jamal Khashoggi, stood at the fence line, pondering his next move. Khashoggi needed to deal with paperwork that proved he had the legal right to marry the woman nervously standing with him that day, his new Turkish fiancee, Hatice Cengiz. He paced the barricade for around 20 minutes, removed his two phones from his blazer and gave them to Cengiz. “Wish me luck,” Khashoggi said. “This will be a birthday present,” she replied.

With those last fateful words, the Saudi dissident stepped past a barrier and walked towards the consulate. A camera on the roof of a nearby guard’s hut captured him purposefully approaching the steel gate. A waiting guard stepped aside and let him pass. It was 1:14pm; the last time Khashoggi was seen alive.

In the extraordinary 19 days since his disappearance and death, the fate of the 59-year old columnist and critic has steadily been pieced together. What happened inside the consulate walls has been traced to the doors of the Saudi royal court, sparked revulsion around the world, exposed the kingdom like no other event since the twin terror attacks of 9/11, and seen Washington and Riyadh shamelessly concoct a cover-up to protect their mutual interests and attempt to shield the powerful heir to the throne, Mohammed bin Salman.

In the early hours of Saturday, after unrelenting global scrutiny, Saudi Arabia finally offered its explanation of what happened to Khashoggi, abandoning two weeks of denials that it had played any role. Its version – that he was killed accidentally during a fist fight – came as Turkish investigators and global intelligence agencies prepared to table an entirely different account of a premeditated state-sanctioned hit; its conclusions drawn, not from a political fudge, but old-fashioned police work and cutting-edge spy tradecraft.

Turkey has also been busy cultivating the court of public opinion. Much of its case against Saudi Arabia has been laid bare through piecemeal leaks by authorities, which have described a conspiracy to assassinate one of Prince Mohammed’s most potent critics, in a building regarded by convention to be Saudi sovereign territory. The plot, the Turks allege, was put into motion within hours of Khashoggi attending the consulate four days earlier when he was turned away and asked to return the following Tuesday.

This is the story of the last few days of Khashoggi’s life; of the investigation that pieced together his fate, and of his legacy – much of it yet to be written – as the region, and beyond, grapple with the aftermath of a crude political hit gone spectacularly wrong.

When the door was closed behind him, Khashoggi was ushered to the second floor of the building, to the office of the consul general. Such a gesture would have befitted someone of his status in Saudi society – a man who had advised senior royals, including the former ambassador to London and Washington, and the intelligence chief, Turki al-Faisal.

Khashoggi would have had little reason to fear as he sat down in a guest chair opposite the desk of Mohammed al-Otaibi, the consul general who had personally called him and invited him back to finalise his papers, after the failed attempt the previous Friday.

Khashoggi, however, was not the only stranger in the building. Waiting in nearby rooms were 15 other men, all members of the state’s security apparatus. They had arrived in Istanbul earlier that day on two private jets, both of which were routinely leased by the Saudi government from a jet base at Riyadh airport. The jets’ tail markings were HZ-SK1 and HZ-SK2. Flight tracking software showed one of the planes landing in Istanbul just after 3am on 2 October. The second landed at Ataturk airport just after noon.

Nine men on the first flight checked into the Mövenpick hotel in the city’s Levent district, where they were caught on in-house cameras passing through security and checking in. From the top-floor windows, the men could almost see the nearby consulate.

Among the guests were Maher Abdulaziz Mutreb, a colonel who is attached to the crown prince’s security detail, and Salah Muhammed al-Tubaigy, the head of forensics in the kingdom’s General Intelligence Directorate. Later that morning, and before Khashoggi’s visit, Mutreb was filmed by the consulate’s security camera walking towards the door. Also believed to be with him are three other members of the crown prince’s personal detail, including Nayif Hassan al-Arifi, Mansour Othman Abahussein and Walid Abdullah al-Shihri.

By the time the arrivals had settled in, Turkish employees of the consulate were taking advantage of a surprise afternoon off. They had been sent home before noon after being told by Saudi bosses that an important diplomatic delegation was arriving for a meeting. The loyalties of those remaining in the building could not be questioned. The assembled hit squad was drawn from the most elite units of the Saudi security forces, whose fidelity had been repeatedly tested.

By the time the second planeload of passengers arrived at the consulate – not long before Khashoggi entered – what was about to take place was never going to be known beyond the building’s walls. Or so the assassins thought.

But in Turkey, and elsewhere, diplomatic missions can have ears.

Not long after Khashoggi entered the consul’s office, two men came into the room and dragged him away. Unbeknown to the Saudis, Turkish intelligence officials from the national spy agency, MIT, were listening in. Just how that happened has been the subject of much intrigue throughout the past fortnight, and has been central to the case against Riyadh.

Scenarios range from a bug placed in the consulate itself to a directional microphone focused on the building from outside – both technically within the realms of Turkey’s capabilities. Another possibility, being discussed in Turkey and elsewhere, is that some members of the hit squad recorded the abduction on their phones for trophy purposes, or to reveal back home. And that those recordings were either intercepted in real time or retrieved from at least one of the killers’ phones.

Whichever the case, Turkish officials soon had an audio soundtrack to a blatant and brutal murder inside the walls of the Saudi consulate, which has since become the bedrock of the case against Saudi Arabia.

Officials say the recording proves that Khashoggi was killed during seven horrific minutes in which he was first tortured, then mutilated, injected with a sedative, and finally dismembered.

According to the audio, a partial transcript of which was leaked last week to Yeni Safak, a pro-government newspaper, one of his killers is heard warning: “Shut up if you want to return to Saudi Arabia”.

As the mutilation starts, Tubaigy – the forensic scientist, who specialises in conducting autopsies – puts on headphones and is heard to say to his colleagues: “When I do this job, I listen to music. You should do that too.”

Khashoggi’s fingers were cut off while he was held down, the recording suggests. He was injected with a substance, which silenced him, then carried into another room – the third to be used in the gruesome killing – where he was lifted on to a meeting table then cut to pieces.

A Turkish official later said the Saudis had brought a bone saw to the consulate. “It is like Pulp Fiction,” the official told the New York Times.

On 5 October, three days after Khashoggi vanished, Turkey’s leadership, including Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, sat down in Ankara for a briefing from MIT’s chief Hakan Fidan and senior officers. Khashoggi had been butchered, they told the Turkish president, and they had incontrovertible proof.

Erdoğan had been friendly with the columnist. They shared a similar worldview, particularly of a role for political Islam in society, and he was aware of Khashoggi’s plans to set up a TV station in Istanbul, where he intended to relocate. After a year spent in Washington, where he had become a pointed critic of some aspects of Prince Mohammed’s reform programmes, Khashoggi wanted to start again, closer to home, his children, and a new wife. He was still planning to write columns for the Washington Post – maintaining the very platform and presence that had irritated the crown prince, but from a more familiar vantage point.

Senior Turkish officials say Erdoğan’s shock soon turned to anger. He told Fidan and others in the meeting to summon the Saudis, and share some of what they knew.

On Saturday 6 October the first meeting between Saudi and Turkish authorities took place. It did not go well. One official familiar with the meeting said the Saudis disavowed any knowledge of what had taken place. “They may have been truthful,” the official said. “This seemed to have been very tightly held and the people we spoke to might not have known.”

At midnight that day, with no response from Riyadh, Turkey played its first card, announcing to the Reuters news agency that it believed Khashoggi had been killed inside the Saudi consulate. Privately, officials began briefing that not only was he dead but his body had been cut up and carried away in bags.

The revelation set in motion a remarkable reaction. Wariness about Turkey’s scarcely believable claims soon gave way to a numbing realisation that Ankara had evidence and was prepared to use it. Names of the 15 Saudis who had travelled on passports using their real names were soon revealed. Selectively leaked images showed a black van parked outside the consulate entrance – of the type that investigators had said was used to carry Khashoggi’s remains to the nearby consul’s residence.

A still-frame of an apparent dummy run showing the van attempting to back into the consul’s underground garage the day before the hit was also made public – as was the fact that the consulate had since been repainted.

Ten days into the furore, Saudi’s monarch, King Salman, who has been largely disengaged since anointing his son as his successor 16 months ago, dispatched one of his most trusted envoys, Khaled al-Faisal, the governor of Mecca, to Ankara to meet with Erdoğan, a move widely viewed as the sidelined old guard being recommissioned to clean up the impetuous crown prince’s mess. “This is the way they used to do business,” a Turkish official said. “Send in a wise hand.”

Riyadh quickly released statements touting brotherly fraternity between two regional allies. But behind the scenes, things were not going well – at least not for the kingdom. “He was literally begging us for help,” the Turkish source said of Faisal. “They were really desperate.”

As the Turkish drip-feed continued, an element of revenge appeared to be driving it. This was the House of Saud’s death by a thousand cuts. Beyond a primal response though, has been a strategic objective. Erdoğan was not going to fold easily. Saudi Arabia’s belief that a cash strapped Turkish economy may drive Ankara’s calculations has proven ill-considered. A bounty to make the crisis go away is something that Riyadh could easily deal with, but Erdoğan has sought something far bigger – a chance to diminish a rival with a claim to speak for Sunni Islam and relaunch Turkey as an Islamic power base.

How to handle things has also been preoccupying Washington, increasingly desperate in its efforts to make the crisis disappear. Donald Trump has hitched many of his foreign policy ambitions to Prince Mohammed, whom he sees as a bulwark against Iran, a regional lifeline to Israel and an enthusiastic financier of the US economy.

Much of the US business elite has been enamoured by the crown prince and his social and economic reform programmes – and equally horrified by the revelations of the past week that end directly at his door. Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, has been a regular in Prince Mohammed’s Diwan or court, as has Mike Pompeo, the US secretary of state, whose two-day trip to Riyadh and Ankara last week heralded the Saudi concession in the early hours of Saturday.

A US official in the region said Pompeo was met with a blanket denial in the Saudi capital and cold realpolitik in Ankara. Both he and the CIA, which he led until recently, have reportedly been played a tape of Khashoggi’s final moments, a recording so visceral and vivid that even Trump could no longer offer the crown prince cover.

The compromise, in which five Saudi officials have been blamed and two sacked – Prince Mohammed’s domestic enforcer, Saud al-Qahtani, and deputy intelligence chief, Ahmed al-Assiri – is being hailed in Washington as credible, but derided elsewhere as a face-saving scam.

“There is simply no way that MBS [Prince Mohammed] was oblivious to this, either before the fact, or after it,” said a former Saudi official now living in exile. “Not even in my day could this happen. To suggest that a control freak and tyrant like this was blindsided by well-meaning aides is beyond laughable.”

The first test of the compromise, which was imposed on a reluctant Riyadh by Washington, is how to account for the fact that not only was Khashoggi killed but his body mutilated and disposed of in pieces somewhere in Istanbul.

Other questions stand out: if the intention was to abduct or interrogate Khashoggi, why was a forensic expert, who specialises in dismembering bodies, sent to do the job? How do Turkish accounts of Khashoggi being overpowered and killed within minutes of entering the consulate square with claims that he died fighting his assailants off?

Perhaps overriding them all though are themes set to haunt the international community’s relationship with Mohammed bin Salman from this point on; does he have the temperament, credibility or awareness to start to recover from such an atrocity? And can he ever be a plausible partner again?

Turkish investigators are now searching forests in Istanbul for what remains of Khashoggi and expect to soon close their case. The country’s leaders, meanwhile, continue to weigh their options. They are yet to release the most incriminating aspects of the case against Saudi Arabia – particularly the recordings.

To do so could have devastating consequences that might affect regional security. In Washington, Trump appears to sense that his interests and those of his patron may yet be safeguarded if events are pulled back from the brink.

“We’ll see about that,” said a senior regional diplomat. “It’s fair to say that the world order died here along with Khashoggi. I’m dreading what comes next.”

Timeline

2 October

Jamal Khashoggi is recorded on CCTV entering the Saudi consulate in Istanbul at 1.14pm.

3 October

Saudi authorities confirm Khashoggi’s disappearance but insist he had left consulate. Turkish officials say he did not leave.

5 October

Saudi Arabia’s crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, reiterates that Khashoggi is not inside the consulate.

6 October

Turkish police say Khashoggi was murdered inside consulate.

7 October

Senior Turkish officials say that a 15-man Saudi hit squad was “most certainly involved”.

8 October

Donald Trump declares that he is concerned about Khashoggi’s disappearance.

9 October

US intelligence reported to have intercepted communications by Saudi officials planning to abduct Khashoggi.

10 October

Trump reveals he has spoken to the Saudis about what he calls a “bad situation”.

14 October

US president says there will be “severe” consequences if Saudi Arabia is found to be involved.

16 October

Trump changes view and criticises the widespread outrage directed at Saudi Arabia.

17 October

Reports claim that Khashoggi’s killers severed his fingers and later beheaded and dismembered his body.

18 October

White House shifts position again. Trump threatens “very severe” consequences if Saudis responsible.

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London: The body parts of murdered dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi have been found at the Saudi consul general's home in Istanbul, a UK-based broadcaster reported on Tuesday.

According to Sky News, the 59-year-old Washington Post contributor's body had been "cut up" and his face "disfigured", with the remains found in the garden of the consul general's home.


Dogu Perincek, leader of Turkey's Rodina party, also claimed in an interview that the journalist's body parts were discovered in a well in the garden at the consul general's home, Haberler reported.

The development came shortly after Turkish President Recep Tayip Erdogan accused Saudi Arabia of plotting Khashoggi's murder. He said there can be no cover up in the case and asked Riyadh to extradite 18 suspects.


He said the killing was planned in advance and called on Saudi Arabia to reveal more details, including where Khashoggi's body was. "Why has the body of someone who was officially said to be killed not been found yet?" asked Erdogan.

However, the President did not produce video or audio evidence his government allegedly possessed. Turkish officials earlier said they had recordings confirming that Khashoggi was tortured, killed, had his fingers cut off and was dismembered.

Khashoggi — a fierce critic of Riyadh's human rights violations and of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman's policies — disappeared after entering the kingdom's consulate in Istanbul on October 2 for paperwork needed for his planned marriage.

Earlier, there were reports that Khashoggi's severed fingers were taken back to Saudi Arabia and presented to the Crown Prince as a "macabre trophy" after the murder.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 23 Oct 2018 23:38

Mbs met khashoggi son today with a pistol armed guard close by

https://twitter.com/bbassem7/status/105 ... 07040?s=21

No choice for the son its meet or while family dies

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Postby chetak » 23 Oct 2018 23:51

Singha wrote:Mbs met khashoggi son today with a pistol armed guard close by

https://twitter.com/bbassem7/status/105 ... 07040?s=21

No choice for the son its meet or while family dies


Blood money time??

How dumb can these goat #@$%^& get??

This is the saudi intelligence operatives/special forces troops??

no wonder that they are forced to have to hire the el cheapo pakis for their dirty work.

According to Sky News, the 59-year-old Washington Post contributor's body had been "cut up" and his face "disfigured", with the remains found in the garden of the consul general's home.

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Postby ArjunPandit » 24 Oct 2018 00:57

^^heard on tv that mbs or someone close wanted to see his head. Is the head in Turkey/KSA or with DHL ?

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Postby Singha » 24 Oct 2018 16:13

this one says the fingers were brought back
https://twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/1 ... 4562024449

special 50 member tiger squad hunts down dissidents. the 15 man team were of this squad. gen asiri 'tiger of the south' named it after himself. asir is a region in KSA next to yemen.

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Postby Singha » 24 Oct 2018 16:17

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Postby Singha » 24 Oct 2018 18:14

saudis change their story yet again
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/24/midd ... index.html

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Postby Gagan » 24 Oct 2018 19:52

This was a sudden summit in Tehran where Putin and Erdogan landed and shook hands. This was earlier this year I believe.
So Erdogan decided to put the ISIS guys under the bus, and shook hands with Col, & Iran

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Postby Singha » 24 Oct 2018 20:57

events today
- erdogan talked to mbs on phone
- mbs said in investor summit - now we know who are our best friends and best enemies
- cia chief had 7 hour meeting in ankara
- turk polis is sniffing into a well at consul generals house
- uk has revoked visas of the 15 goons
- france said will impose sanctions if its proved saudi govt was behind killing

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Postby Singha » 24 Oct 2018 21:27

news18

In his toughest comments yet, Trump told the Wall Street Journal he wanted to believe the prince when he said that lower level officials were to blame for the killing at the Saudi mission.

But he suggested responsibility lay higher up: "Well, the prince is running things over there more so at this stage. He's running things and so if anybody were going to be, it would be him."

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Postby Skanda » 24 Oct 2018 22:56

chetak wrote:Jamal Khashoggi: murder in the consulate
Jamal Khashoggi: murder in the consulate
How to handle things has also been preoccupying Washington, increasingly desperate in its efforts to make the crisis disappear. Donald Trump has hitched many of his foreign policy ambitions to Prince Mohammed, whom he sees as a bulwark against Iran, a regional lifeline to Israel and an enthusiastic financier of the US economy.

and

"We protect Saudi Arabia. Would you say they're rich? And I love the King ... King Salman but I said 'King, we're protecting you. You might not be there for two weeks without us. You have to pay for your military,'" Trump said.


How is it that US which claims to literally have Saudi by its "unmentionables" require Saudi to be a bullwark against Iran?

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby ramana » 25 Oct 2018 00:39

Its about who controls the two mosques of Islam.
Even during the Fatimid era the mosques were controlled by Sunnis.

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Postby Singha » 25 Oct 2018 05:33

Until ksa was invented it was the hashemite jordanian king who controlled that hejaj region under british tutelage

Before that the turks for centuries

As ottoman power was destroyed by anglo french duo they drew lines and invented countries over gin and tonic both in ME and africa

One such puppet was ibn saud - being a clever desert tyrant he made a deal with the Ulema to run the religious police mutawa as they wished so long as the royal family could run the economy and enjoy the forbidden fruit like madira, gori flesh and white powder behind tall walls of palaces.

The americans moved in after ww2 and the discovery of oil
I am not sure how old aramco township is but its old
Some multi generation of american aramco families exist

after losing KSA to the americans, the british retained their toehold in Oman.

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Postby Singha » 25 Oct 2018 12:26

ibn

RIYADH: Saudi Arabia's crown prince on Wednesday joked about allegations that Lebanon's premier-designate Saad Hariri was detained in the kingdom last year, saying he hoped his current visit does not spark "abduction" rumours.
Hariri "will be staying in the kingdom for two more days, so I hope there are no rumours of his abduction," Prince Mohammed bin Salman said while addressing the Future Investment Initiative forum in Riyadh.

The prince burst out laughing and shook hands with a smiling Hariri, who sat next to him on stage, as the audience also erupted in laughter.

Saudi Arabia has long been a key ally of Hariri, while Riyadh's regional foe Iran backs Lebanese Shiite movement Hezbollah

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Postby Kati » 25 Oct 2018 15:16

Singha-saar,
Just a small correction: Amir Khan asset Fatullah Gullen has been sheltered in the Pokono Mountain area (north-east Penn State), not in Virginia.

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Postby Austin » 25 Oct 2018 20:32

"Poseidon-8 took control": the Russian Defense Ministry announced the involvement of the United States in the attack drones on Khmeimim in Syria

https://russian.rt.com/world/article/56 ... lenie-ssha

Unmanned aerial vehicles, with the help of which the attackers attempted to attack the air base VKS of Russia Khmeimim in Syria, were under the control of the US Navy anti-submarine patrol aircraft P-8 Poseidon. This was stated by the Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, Colonel-General Alexander Fomin, during a speech at the plenary session of the Eighth Siangshan Security Forum, which takes place in Beijing from October 24 to 26.

“13 drones were marching as one, controlled by a common team. At this time, the American reconnaissance aircraft Poseidon-8 was patrolling in the Mediterranean for eight hours, ”RIA Novosti quotes Fomin.

He added that when the drones were faced with the action of Russian electronic warfare, they were transferred to manual mode. “So, manual control is exercised not by a peasant of some kind, but by a normal one, equipped with modern Poseidon-8 equipment. He took over manual control, ”said the Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation.

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Postby Singha » 26 Oct 2018 04:48

Washington (CNN) — The son of murdered journalist Jamal Khashoggi has left Saudi Arabia and arrived in the United States, a source close to the family told CNN.
Salah bin Jamal Khashoggi, a dual US-Saudi citizen, had previously been unable to leave Saudi Arabia after his passport was restricted by the kingdom some months ago.
A State Department spokesman said Secretary of State Mike Pompeo urged the Saudis to release the younger Khashoggi and deputy spokesman Robert Palladino said the US was "pleased" that he was allowed to leave the country.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 28 Oct 2018 20:39

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Over 100 SDF/YPG militants were killed by ISIS in this massive attack. Iraqi government is now sending additional troops to the Syria-Iraq border out of fear of infiltration by ISIS terrorists. This is what you get for embracing the US instead of Syria/Russia.


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Total collapse of #SDF/#YPG militants in #DeirEzzor governorate due to massive #ISIS attacks against their positions. Reports of US and French Special Forces fleeing the area. Karma for the Iraqi government who wanted to deal with SDF militants instead of the Syrian Government


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