Levant crisis - III

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 01 Jan 2019 13:05

per twitter russia has deployed 1 S300 battery in deir azzor region, with some 200 syrians and 70 of its own people (trainers maybe).
this is to monitor the channel of flying over jordan and heading up the euphrates which israelis did earlier.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Y. Kanan » 01 Jan 2019 13:16

Austin - yes, but the IAF appears to be stepping up the frequency of these air-launched cruise missile strikes from Lebanese airspace. Apparently the Isrealis are hiding behind civilian airliners trying to trick the Syrians into shooting one down. Typical ratty behavior that we've come to expect from the Isrealis these days.

I’m not sure what, if anything, the Syrians or Russians can do about this. Apparently they have no chance of actually downing an Isreali fighter over their own airspace, despite the S300’s claimed ability to do that, and it sure looks like Syrian/Russian air defense is holding back, either because they know the S300’s won’t work so better not to fire them, or because they don’t feel confident in their ability to avoid hitting an airliner. I’m sure they’re very worried about another MH17 type of incident. That would reverse the American withdrawal and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Seems to me the Syrians have no choice but to just sit there and keep taking the hits. That “strategy” is actually not so bad. True the S300’s haven’t stopped the strikes, but that’s ok, because standoff missiles are a lot less effective than bombs. At least the IAF no longer has free reign to bomb anywhere at will.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 01 Jan 2019 13:37

in the last episode a airliner landing at beirut was used as cover, so SAM did not fire at launch a/c but could attempt later when the missile were in flight. another plane landing at damascus was sent off north.

the iranians have moved their bases close to russian bases wherever they can like in T4.

it is still unclear what is the eventual fate of eastern syria and if the us withdrawal is for real.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 01 Jan 2019 13:39

Brasco_Aad

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Moroccan troops r ready to deployed in Northern Syria alongside Egyptian & UAE troops, with Syrian & Russian blessing.

Mohammed bin Zayed has asked King Mohammed VI of Morocco to deploy Moroccan troops in this part of Syria to counter Turkish Neo-Ottoman expansionism

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 01 Jan 2019 16:16

Y. Kanan wrote:That would reverse the American withdrawal and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.


Can you build a scenario where defeat can be snatched from jaws of victory. An airliner gets shot down by mistake, what is USA or Israel going to do or what are they going to try that they haven't already.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Y. Kanan » 03 Jan 2019 08:02

It seems pretty likely, considering all the wailing currently going on within the US media and power elite, that after another chemical attack or better yet, a downed airliner, it would become politically impossible for Trump to pull out. It’s nearly impossible for Trump to defy the ruling establishment even now, without videos of gasping children, fake or otherwise.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Philip » 03 Jan 2019 08:46

There are several ways to " skin a cat".The last thing that Putin wants is a clash with Israel which will widen the ME conflict to an extremely dangerous global crisis.Bibi N is in deep trouble back home over the allegations of corruption.He may want such a scenario to divert attenion from his troubles but may be outflanked by Russia and its allies both diplomaticcly and militarily on the ground.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Gyan » 04 Jan 2019 00:26

Singha wrote:Brasco_Aad

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Moroccan troops r ready to deployed in Northern Syria alongside Egyptian & UAE troops, with Syrian & Russian blessing.

Mohammed bin Zayed has asked King Mohammed VI of Morocco to deploy Moroccan troops in this part of Syria to counter Turkish Neo-Ottoman expansionism


So Saudis & UAE more afraid of Sunni Bros rather than Shia enemies

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Y. Kanan » 04 Jan 2019 01:53

It's galling, but once again the Russians, Syrians and Iranians will win by using their greatest superpower: the ability to absorb air strikes and casualties without over-reacting. Defeating the enemy by turning the other cheek. The Bible was right: the meek shall indeed inherit the earth.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Y. Kanan » 07 Jan 2019 01:12

Another fake gas attack in the works. Much bigger strikes planned for this one:
US warns Syria against use of chemical weapons
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/01/ ... 07400.html

I'm not worried, though. I'm sure the Russians can be counted on not to over-react.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 07 Jan 2019 17:02

:rotfl: the patented indian algorithm. perhaps our biggest export to the world.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby UlanBatori » 09 Jan 2019 23:59

US teenaged ISIS s**** captured alive by Kurds

Already lived far too long, IMO.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby deejay » 10 Jan 2019 12:21

UlanBatori wrote:US teenaged ISIS s**** captured alive by Kurds

Already lived far too long, IMO.


ISIS is not defeated. Trump must rejine.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby UlanBatori » 10 Jan 2019 17:33

^ That was ISIS. This is USIS. Oh wait! they're closed. Never mind.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Austin » 12 Jan 2019 16:54

WATCH Syrian Army Repel Israeli Attack on Damascus

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/2019 ... le-strike/

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Re: Levant crisis - III

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Austin » 14 Jan 2019 20:27

Y. Kanan wrote:Austin - yes, but the IAF appears to be stepping up the frequency of these air-launched cruise missile strikes from Lebanese airspace. Apparently the Isrealis are hiding behind civilian airliners trying to trick the Syrians into shooting one down. Typical ratty behavior that we've come to expect from the Isrealis these days.

I’m not sure what, if anything, the Syrians or Russians can do about this. Apparently they have no chance of actually downing an Isreali fighter over their own airspace, despite the S300’s claimed ability to do that, and it sure looks like Syrian/Russian air defense is holding back, either because they know the S300’s won’t work so better not to fire them, or because they don’t feel confident in their ability to avoid hitting an airliner. I’m sure they’re very worried about another MH17 type of incident. That would reverse the American withdrawal and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Seems to me the Syrians have no choice but to just sit there and keep taking the hits. That “strategy” is actually not so bad. True the S300’s haven’t stopped the strikes, but that’s ok, because standoff missiles are a lot less effective than bombs. At least the IAF no longer has free reign to bomb anywhere at will.


Modern SAM are smart enough not to attack any other aircraft then what is getting tracked and guided too but considering Israel fighter will make sure they are beyond the range of most SAM including S-300 and wil use Earth Horizon to fly hi lo and then fire missile and quickly egress.

They can always use the cover of Civilian Aircraft flying over Lebenon and a SAM Burst near Israel Fighter jet the warhead splinters might impact any civilian aircarft which Israel Fighter will most certainly use to cover like they used the Russian ELINT aircraft which Syrian SAM shot.

RuAF have shut of the medetarian via Jammers and SAM but doing this over Lebanon civilian airspace will be difficult short of bringing all the Civilian Aircraft to Land or complicating its flying perhaps even leading to Crash as Jammers would affect civilian and military frequency and navigation.

Right now the best strategy is to play a defensive game and intercept or jam most missile that flies close to target. There is as much you can do in any defensive war which Syrians are doing.

Israel is pissed off that its puppet IS got defeated and is now trying to play spoil sports in this game hope to provoke something big.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby UlanBatori » 14 Jan 2019 22:07

BB trying to stay out of jail. Israelis deprived of Arabs to beat up, will beat each other up happily.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 17 Jan 2019 14:26

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... hotel.html

photo feature - al shabab terrorists unleash mayhem in a elite mall in nairobi kenya. many killed but security forces kill them all in response.


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