Levant crisis - III

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Rony » 27 Oct 2019 19:44

Typical Americans. Want to claim credit all for themselves. Not a word on the Kurds who helped them.

It fell to Mazloum Abdi, SDF chief to announce his role in killing Bagdhadi

https://twitter.com/MazloumAbdi/status/ ... 0908333057

Successful& historical operation due to a joint intelligence work with the United States of America.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby UlanBatori » 28 Oct 2019 00:41

Oh well! You DO believe that it was Sir Edmund Hillary who actually climbed Mt. Everest carrying Sherpa Tenzing Norgay on his shoulders, right?
And the Battle of El Alamein was won by the BRITISH soldiers of the 8th Army, who died protecting the Indian coolies?
And the Battle of Kohima was won by British General Slim and his British men, protecting the cowering Indian soldiers?

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Rony » 28 Oct 2019 02:15

https://twitter.com/edipyuksel/status/1 ... 9798845441

"Baghdadi was under protection of Turkish dictator Erdogan, as was Ben Ladin who was under protection Pakistan. The US knew about both for years, but their capture is deliberately delayed, and is timed to promote major mutually beneficial domestic and ınternational agenda".

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby UlanBatori » 28 Oct 2019 02:29

RT.com:
Washington Post changes al-Baghdadi obituary headline after calling ISIS leader 'austere religious scholar'
By Justine Coleman - 10/27/19 02:54 PM EDT

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Roop » 28 Oct 2019 06:10

habal wrote:this is the 3rd time I'm hearing about his death.

... Like a cat he seems to have 9 lives
6 more to go


:rotfl: You're right, I was thinking the same myself. But there's something important to point out here. All the American public utterances on this have been to the effect that they believe GotUS statements on this matter (as indeed on all similar matters, like the death of Osama). You never hear of an American "subooth gang" demanding "सबूत ले आओ . तुम झूट बोलते हो, जब तक सबूत पेश नहीं, तब तक तुम पर विश्वास नहीं (Prove it. You are lying, we won't believe you until you give us proof)". Even the lying traitor scumbag Democrats like Schiff, Waters, Hirono et al are not saying that. They all loathe Trump more than they loathe Osama (assuming they loathe Osama), but they have limits beyond which they will not stray.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby kit » 28 Oct 2019 08:32

OT but there is a strong belief that the US will NOT do enough to stop terrorism export from Pakistan.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby sanjaykumar » 28 Oct 2019 10:21

The US has however demonstrated that it will not disengage from its mission. Does Pakistan want to stake all on some jihadi not getting ideas about reenacting 9/11?


What’s the mood amongst Indian Muslims and Pakistanis? Are they going to pull another Moplah over this khalifa biting the dust?

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Parasu » 28 Oct 2019 14:18

Rony wrote:https://twitter.com/edipyuksel/status/1188316679798845441

"Baghdadi was under protection of Turkish dictator Erdogan, as was Ben Ladin who was under protection Pakistan. The US knew about both for years, but their capture is deliberately delayed, and is timed to promote major mutually beneficial domestic and ınternational agenda".


Baghdadi is killed in Idlib. Idlib is protected by Turkey. Russia and Syria want to bomb it. Turkey wants to protect its Jihadis.
Baghdadi's spokesperson and his right hand man al-Muhajir is killed in Jarablus. Jarablus is directly controlled by Turkey.
https://www.newsweek.com/us-strikes-kil ... id-1468018

That wouldn't stop Russia or the US from making deals after deals with Turkey. Same as Pakistan.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby UlanBatori » 28 Oct 2019 18:01

Guys, pls watch / listen to the trump news conference. Makes it plain as day that "The Mission" is to steal Syrian (and Iraqi) oil. Same for NATO mission. Mission has not changed since Suez SNAFU.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby chanakyaa » 29 Oct 2019 08:08

That article from RT showing satellite imagery of oil cargo near Hasakah is very cleverly presented. It shows oil tanks and allegedly oil production sites, but stops from showing or alluding to where the oil tanks are going. Oil pump jack needs electricity, where is it coming from? Oil needs to be refined and processed. It is definitely not using Syrian refineries. So where is it being illegally sold and shipped? It has to go to either Eyerak or Toorkey for processing. Remember arial videos from 3 years ago showing oil shipping to Toorkey? Also, given the poor infrastructure, the trucks have to travel using one of the remaining major roads to Eyerak (erbil refinery) or Toorkey, which is easy to spot.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby UlanBatori » 29 Oct 2019 18:21

Proof! CNN/ABC are Russian Agints! RT.com says same thing as what CNN/ABC said yesterday.
Except Deir ez-Zor is Syrian land. The oil under the ground there is Syrian oil. And Syria, officially, remains under the rule of President Bashar Assad. The United States is not technically at war with Assad, its presence in Syria is not sanctioned by international law, and even if the US were leading an internationally recognized military campaign against Assad, seizing oil is not legal under the American definition of the ‘spoils of war.’

And to top it off, there’s no inkling that Islamic State, or what remains of the group, will even threaten the sites. Asked on Monday if the oilfields and their American protectors were under any threat, Esper replied “not at this time.”

Though Syria is not a major producer, oil sales accounted for a quarter of the state’s revenue and were projected to net the government $3.2 billion in 2010, before the outbreak of war. Now, with much of the country in ruins, oil sales could be a vital lifeline for the nation’s rebuilding. With the US denying everyone bar the Kurds access to at least some of this oil, that recovery is hampered.


ABC/CNN called it a War Crime to steal Syrian oil. "Pillaging" to be exact.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Parasu » 29 Oct 2019 19:50

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/1 ... offensive/

6 Syrian soldiers killed by Turkey. Its time for Putin to ask the Syrins to withdraw from Northern Syria.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby UlanBatori » 31 Oct 2019 07:40

Syrian govt confirms heavy clashes between Turkish/ FSA and SAA. I hope Gen. Vodkov's wings are not clipped?

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby UlanBatori » 31 Oct 2019 08:02

Interesting snippet. The blast that leveled the Bag-daddy compound was a US bomb that was launched *****AFTER****** Bag-daddy was confirmed dead.
Wipe out the evidence?

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby SriKumar » 31 Oct 2019 09:28

UlanBatori wrote:Interesting snippet. The blast that leveled the Bag-daddy compound was a US bomb that was launched *****AFTER****** Bag-daddy was confirmed dead.
Wipe out the evidence?
If you read the sequence of events, they blew holes into walls to get in. So there were walls standing when they went in. The flattening happened after the fact, and probably an air raid well after exfiltration.

After getting out with the prisoners, documents and his corpse, there was no reason to do further damage.

The idea of leveling the compound was to send a not-so subtle message to their friends and family, extended cousins that this is what will happen to you if you mess with us. I assuming anyone who survived the raid was vaporized in the bombing. The whole thing is flattened and burnt white, and very little debris to see which is surprising. I wish they had released a 'before' picture as well to drive home the message. Google maps should have something if we know the coordinates.

Added later:
GOTUS has obliged. Dawn paper has printed the pix.. Before and After picture.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1514015/us-re ... ion-attack
Message going to the right players.
For added measure a general does call it a parking lot after they were done with the bad guys.
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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Parasu » 31 Oct 2019 12:46

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/sy ... ast-syria/
Syrian military withdraws soldiers from some border areas in northeast Syria


One of the two things has happened.
Russians have leaned on the SAA to move troops.
Or
The SAA has realised that it is no match for Turkish Army+Jihadis.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby UlanBatori » 01 Nov 2019 00:50

Confirmation that Al BagDaddy 's Bar is going to open in LA or Chicago

Like the Pakistan Army, the ISIS has ***NEVER*** accepted any setback.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Rudradev » 01 Nov 2019 02:37

Parasu wrote:https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-military-withdraws-soldiers-from-some-border-areas-in-northeast-syria/
Syrian military withdraws soldiers from some border areas in northeast Syria


One of the two things has happened.
Russians have leaned on the SAA to move troops.
Or
The SAA has realised that it is no match for Turkish Army+Jihadis.


Or the US is back/never really left.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syri ... XA1DG?il=0

BEIRUT (Reuters) - U.S. armored vehicles were seen on Thursday near the Syria-Turkey border in a part of northeastern Syria where they had not been observed since early October when Washington announced the withdrawal of American forces, according to a witness and Reuters video footage.

A military source from the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) described the movement as a patrol running between the towns of Rmeilan and Qahtaniyah, which is 20 km (12 miles) to the west. The source said it would “not be a one-time” event.

The witness saw the U.S. military vehicles outside the town of Qahtaniyah, roughly 6 km (4 miles) south of the border.

Later on Thursday, Reuters video recorded from Turkish territory showed a convoy of around 20 military vehicles flying American flags moving through the Syrian border city of Qamishli, which is about 30 km (19 miles) west of Qahtaniyah.

The head of the SDF’s media office could not immediately be reached for comment. Turkey’s defense and foreign ministries did not respond to a Reuters request for comment.

President Donald Trump announced on Oct. 6 that U.S. forces would withdraw from northeastern Syria, where the United States had allied with the SDF to oust Islamic State forces, paving the way for a Turkish offensive against Kurdish militia forces in the area.

In response to a question about the reported troop movement, Colonel Myles Caggins, a spokesman for the U.S.-led coalition, said: “All Coalition military operations are de-conflicted with other forces operating in the region”.

“We have begun repositioning Coalition troops to the Deir al-Zor region, in coordination with our SDF partners, to increase security (and) continue our mission to defeat (Islamic State) remnants,” Caggins added.

The U.S. military said last week it was reinforcing its position in Syria with additional assets, including mechanized forces, to prevent oil fields from being taken over by remnants of the Islamic State militant group or others.

Trump said last week a small number of U.S. troops would remain in the area of Syria “where they have the oil”.

Syria’s oil wells are principally located in Deir al-Zor province, well south of the Turkish border, though one is located in the country’s northeastern tip nearer to where the U.S. forces were spotted.

Iran, Russia and Turkey - the three remaining actors in the region wielding influence over the conflict - have all criticized the U.S. decision to maintain a presence near oil fields.
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The reported troop movement comes after the expiration of a Tuesday deadline set by Turkey and Russia for the Syrian Kurdish YPG militia, the main component of the SDF, to pull back 30 km (19 miles) away from its border. Turkey made a similar deal with the United States, pausing its assault during the withdrawal.

While both Washington and Moscow have said that YPG fighters left the border area within the given time, Turkey’s President Tayyip Erdogan has said Kurdish fighters still remained, and that Ankara and Moscow would begin joint patrols along the border at a depth of 7 km (4 miles) on Friday.

Ankara views the YPG as a terrorist organization because of its links to Kurdish militants in southeastern Turkey, and aims to establish a “safe zone” in northern Syria cleared of the group, where it says up to 2 million Syrian refugees can settle.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Y. Kanan » 02 Nov 2019 02:31

Regarding the blatant seizure of Syrian oil fields, it's nice to see the US now being openly seen as the rogue state we already knew them to be.

https://www.npr.org/2019/10/30/77452147 ... st-pillage

Stewart cites numerous international agreements binding the U.S., including the Fourth Geneva Convention, that define the taking of goods during wartime without the owner's permission as pillaging — a war crime.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby UlanBatori » 03 Nov 2019 07:26

rt.com
Donald Trump is not trying to hide Washington’s true policies and intentions behind the doublespeak about freedom and democracy – and that makes him arguably the best US leader, Syrian President Bashar Assad has admitted.
“We’ve stayed back and kept the oil,” Trump reiterated on Friday, reaffirming the main US interest in Syria and making clear that all less immediately lucrative and longer-term endeavors like keeping peace and reconstructing the devastated country should be taken care of by someone else. “Other people can patrol the border of Syria... let them – they’ve been fighting for a thousand years...”
I like oil! We're keeping the oil!
Trump’s remarkably blunt approach was even commended by Syria’s Assad, who sarcastically noted in a recent interview that American Nobel peace prize laureate presidents always pose as the “defenders of human rights and noble and unique American values” but rarely admit to simply being “criminals who represent the interests of American lobbies.” He is the best American President, not because his policies are good, but because he is the most transparent president… What can be better than an honest enemy?


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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby UlanBatori » 10 Nov 2019 01:25

Question in a very good cause:
Does anyone have threads I and II saved, please? Writing history in a good cause....

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby kit » 10 Nov 2019 09:20



I dont think (even ? ) the US military contractors/suppliers really care about where they are used !! .. and paid for US taxpayer .. God knows where all those monies go :mrgreen: .. people tend to get shocked ( ? ) :mrgreen: .. when you print and print money , it has to be kept going , someting the chinese are trying to emulate but then OT !


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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby UlanBatori » 12 Nov 2019 20:28

The potential Informers at the war crimes trials, are falling one by one: Now White Helmet Chemical Poisoner Halaed

James Le Mesurier was found dead near his home in Istanbul on Monday. Turkish police believe he fell to his death and are investigating the circumstances.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby UlanBatori » 14 Nov 2019 17:50

White Helmet's bibi prevented from leaving Turkey pending investigation. Meanwhile his corpse has been shifted to Londonistan to the Usual Quarters who also covered up the Air India Mt. Blanc crash, TWA crash near Newport, RI, and MH370 disappearance.

Anadolu Agency reports Thursday that James Le Mesurier's Swedish wife, Emma Winberg, was questioned by police on Wednesday. Authorities imposed the travel ban in case she needs to be questioned again {as the only scapegoat in sight}.



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