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Levant crisis - III

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Austin » 30 Apr 2017 09:13

Bhurishravas wrote:US wont arm the Kurds against a NATO ally. If Kurds do get arms, it would have to be from Russia.


US has been arming Kurds since BO days either directly or via proxy like oops an arms air drop fails that lands in Kurd territory or IS depending who they want to arm. Indeed Sultan has direcly accused US of doing that many times

That is what made Sultan angry , that Kurds are being used to carve a land ( which incidental in Iraq is also Oil Rich ) which will then extend into Turkey

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 30 Apr 2017 10:19

Usa has provided vehicles for raqqa ops but no real heavy weapons

Thats why a little town like tabqa is taking so long
Nobody in ypg wants to die fighting for an atea they will vacate for the arab tribes in sdf
And their artillery is the fitful coalition air strikes .... not organ8c at all

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Postby Singha » 30 Apr 2017 10:19

New Delhi: Fresh after winning a controversial referendum that gives him overwhelming powers, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan arrives in India today. On a two-day visit to the country, President Erdogan will be received by his Indian counterpart Pranab Mukherjee at the Rashtrapati Bhavan. The two will discuss ways to improve bilateral economic and trade ties. His meeting with Prime Minister Narendra Modi is expected to be crucial in view of the crisis in Syria and support for India's membership in the Nuclear Suppliers Group.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Austin » 30 Apr 2017 10:23

Need to tell Sultan to stop supporting Pakistan Armed forces and stop upgrading and supporting those PAF F-16 if he wants better business with india

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Gyan » 30 Apr 2017 10:26

Re Singha

What's happening in Mosul? Please update

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Austin » 30 Apr 2017 10:27

I like the way how these Rich people love they lives :)

Billionaire bunkers: How the 1% are preparing for the apocalypse

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/20/luxur ... index.html

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 30 Apr 2017 12:28

https://mobile.twitter.com/IraqiSecurit ... 7731523585

Latest mosul map. They have abandoned the old city to deash and instead going for other sectors one by one.

For old city weaponised quadcopters are used to drop grenades on isis

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 30 Apr 2017 12:29

Part of pmu maintains the siege on tal afar
Part has moved south near hawija to clear daesh infestes desert areas like ancient city of hatra

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Postby Bhurishravas » 30 Apr 2017 17:15

https://www.dailysabah.com/war-on-terro ... dogan-says
Turkey may come to PKK-held Sinjar overnight, President Erdoğan says.

President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan warned Saturday once again that Turkey will not tolerate the presence of the PKK terror organization and their affiliated groups in northern Iraq's Sinjar region and northern Syria.
"Turkey knows what to do and when to do it, we may come there overnight all of a sudden," Erdoğan said, hinting at a cross-border operation to drive the terrorist group from the areas in its south.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 30 Apr 2017 17:56

https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article ... se-system/

Turkey talking to russia for a loan to buy s400

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby UlanBatori » 30 Apr 2017 18:51

Austin wrote:I like the way how these Rich people love they lives :)

Billionaire bunkers: How the 1% are preparing for the apocalypse http://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/20/luxur ... index.html

This is sooo Berkeley Stanford. Maybe the companies build inside caves, but the pics shown of palmtrees growing outside an all-glass wall in Czechoslovakia, and a near-water-level apartment with a glass wall looking out under San Francisco Bridge or London Bridge... :rotfl:

Any "catacylsm" IMO can be expected to come with a nice initial blast wave with high overpressures and high temperatures. No glass will protect against that, instead it will become a barrage of glass daggers that will end all billionairic problems. The places inside earthen mounds offer some protection; the ones carved into bedrock offer more. In any event the problem will be protecting from one's desperate fellow survivors - and for how long? Best preparation is still gymnastic to maintain great flexibility as they taught in school in the Cold War days because one needs to

Bend over, put ur head between ur legs, and kiss ur ass goodbye.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 01 May 2017 11:07

Interview with daesh child soldier

https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article ... -critical/

What worries me is similar things are likely happening in india too...the deep tough brainwashing part

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 02 May 2017 07:25

https://twitter.com/IraqiSecurity/statu ... 1621746689

Hashd takes down multiple vbieds in battles neat hatra a ancient ruined city south west of mosul. One of them is a very short range shot by a tank

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Austin » 02 May 2017 12:41

Wilbur Ross: U.S. Airstrike on Syria Was 'After-Dinner Entertainment' for Mar-a-Lago

http://time.com/4762582/wilbur-ross-syr ... ald-trump/

U.S. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross called the April 6 U.S. missile strike on Syria "after-dinner entertainment" for President Donald Trump's guests at Mar-a-Lago during a conference on Monday.


Ross, a billionaire banker without previous experience in government, was describing Trump's dinner with China's President Xi Jinping at the Florida club. He was speaking at the annual Milken Institute Global Conference, known for bringing together billionaires and leaders in Beverly Hills, Calif.

“Just as dessert was being served, the president explained to Mr. Xi he had something he wanted to tell him, which was the launching of 59 missiles into Syria,” Ross said, according to Variety. “It was in lieu of after-dinner entertainment.”

The audience laughed at the remarks, Variety reports, and Ross continued: “The thing was, it didn’t cost the president anything to have that entertainment.”

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 02 May 2017 16:48

Issam zahreddine continues to lead the repub guard beating back n number of daesh attacks in deir azzor. The area of airbase perimeter as slowly expanded as isis is forced to send off more people to fight sdf.

Amrika is trying to make a play at iraqi border by funding iraqi tribes to fight isis in concert with jordan based khan pasand rebels.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 02 May 2017 16:48

Tabqa is going to fall soon. 80% in sdf hands now.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 02 May 2017 21:03

https://twitter.com/NatDefFor/status/859110758990442496

Ypg has given a efrin base to saa + russia and looks like border will be handed over in phases.

A a50 was clicked over hymenim today

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 02 May 2017 21:10

https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/ ... 0070622208

Spheres of influence. Russi has west and north west. Usa has north anc north east. Hezbollah has south. East is still up for a fight. Usa is funding proxies to capture as much of syria iraq border as possible

https://twitter.com/TheArabSource/statu ... 3236042752

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 03 May 2017 10:52

^^ what khan is trying to do is block the syria-iraq border from incursion by the PMU which would complete the Shiite crescent overland to hezbollah. with this in mind, SDF has occupied Ash shahdadi about 40km north of deir azzor (the red island in map) , that is the route from tal afar and mosul to deZ

and the cia trained new syrian army has staged out of jordan to advance across uncontested desert south and east of palmyra to capture the T3 pumping station which is so desolate it makes palmyra and its famous T4 pumping statiion+airbase looks like manhattan. clearly the idea is to block the most direct route from palmyra to deZ which avoids the ISIS stronghold of sukhanah.
various arab tribes in DeZ region have been given their bags of gold to join the SDF and similarly the iraqi tribes in anbar are being goaded to attack the ISIS in al-qaim and al-bukamal on the border to complete the "great wall"

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Postby Singha » 03 May 2017 11:00

the bulk of ISIS are now strung out along the euphrates in a series of small towns from raqqa to al-qaim with DeZ as a eyesore in the middle. not all are fighters...there are equal number of admins, wives, kids, camp followers, captives, slaves, teachers, psychopaths and so on.

then there are strong pockets of ISIS in al sukhanah, tabqa town, eastern homs mountains , al quraytyn mountains and al maskanah plains. the ones in al quraytyn are probably not "core" ISIS this far west but local militias who pledged allegiance to the khalifa at some point and then got funds and weapons.

then there is a mysterious ISIS west of daraa abutting the israeli border who miraculously get all the weapons they need, but NOT from jordan , NOT from israel but FROM thin air :lol: they fight the FSA to pass the time.

in east ghouta a bloodbath is ongoing between AQ and ISIS to see who gets to rule. SAA is patiently watching this attrition as it makes their eventual job easier. east ghouta is real close to damascus as is a non-negotiable for assad to recapture it. in southern regions unlike aleppo, the SAA generally prefers to surround rebel areas to avoid civilian deaths and then wait it out until they relent and board the green buses to Idlib.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Austin » 03 May 2017 11:12

Su-22 Evading MANPADS fired by Terrorist


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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Austin » 03 May 2017 11:15

^^^ Su-22 evading manpads proves the point that you need MAWS on every fighter aircraft to inform the pilot he is under attack from passive manpads.

The evasion Su-22 did is probably his altitude and his hunch that he was under manpads attack , else there is no way for a pilot to know he is under attack and carry out even basis manouvering along with flares to avoid manpads , Without MAWS it would depend on MANPADS SAM probability of hit and luck of the pilot.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Austin » 03 May 2017 11:17

IAF should get MAWS for all its fighter aircraft ASAP , more so for low flying types like Jags

MAWS is now as important as having a RWR in the aircraft , Atleast it would give the vector/speed of the MANPADS and give the pilot a chance to manouver to avoid getting hit

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 03 May 2017 11:35

no flares dropped either, but maybe he was tipped off on radio by his wingman orbiting the area for a lookout...or the FAC on ground guiding his strike.

looks like manpads are fairly easy to evade if a plane has energy and good climb and turn rate. they are ambush weapons like SSK and not chasing weapons like a proper SAM.

I would agree with the MAWS thing, the pakis rely a lot on dense manpad coverage since they lack large nos of larger SAMs.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Austin » 03 May 2017 13:51

Singha wrote:no flares dropped either, but maybe he was tipped off on radio by his wingman orbiting the area for a lookout...or the FAC on ground guiding his strike.

looks like manpads are fairly easy to evade if a plane has energy and good climb and turn rate. they are ambush weapons like SSK and not chasing weapons like a proper SAM.

I would agree with the MAWS thing, the pakis rely a lot on dense manpad coverage since they lack large nos of larger SAMs.


If you recollect during Kargil we lost 2 aircraft due to Manpads.

Manpads can be evaded if the aircraft has altitude and speed which makes it easy to manouver if the pilot/wingman knows he is under attack , Usually a plume of missile will be give away.

If they are flying low and slower then MANPADS can take its toll , These Jihadi arnt using the latest manpads they are like 2 decade old types SA-16/Stinger .. Pakis would be using a lot newer ones.

MAWS is Must as RWR for any fighter these days in manpads infested environment

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 03 May 2017 14:10

smokeless motor and low IR signature like latest aam can be assumed. will take a good MAWS to pick it up coming off a hot area like sindh or punjab plains with heat haze in the day.

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Postby Austin » 03 May 2017 14:16

Singha wrote:smokeless motor and low IR signature like latest aam can be assumed. will take a good MAWS to pick it up coming off a hot area like sindh or punjab plains with heat haze in the day.


Any IR based MAWS or UV based one should pick these low IR signature AAM/MANPADS with high probability they would still have high heat on the motors even if low smoke one that would be very distinguishable against the cool background of IR/UV seekers.

For hardkill we will need DIRCM but to start with latest generation flares should do.

Aleast our pilot needs a fighting chance to deal with MANPADS , Cant afford to loose multi-million dollar aircraft to 100 thousand dollar manpads.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Austin » 03 May 2017 23:05

Quite detailed writeup

Russian UAVs in Syria

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby ramana » 04 May 2017 01:29

Assad better clean up the action soon. Can't wait for too long.
Time is running out.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Bhurishravas » 04 May 2017 05:42

what khan is trying to do is block the syria-iraq border from incursion by the PMU which would complete the Shiite crescent overland to hezbollah.


Exactly what Israel would want. I wouldnt blame Israel. They dont want rockets from Iran reaching Hezbollah any which way.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Austin » 04 May 2017 18:24

Media: Al Jazeera stages ‘fake news’ clip alleging Syrian army used ‘new chemical weapons’

More:
http://tass.com/world/944612
MOSCOW, May 4. /TASS/. Stringers from Al Jazeera TV recently cooked up some fake video footage of another supposed round of chemical weapon attacks by the Syrian army, a source in military and diplomatic circles said on Thursday.

"According to information confirmed through several channels, a video group of stringers from Al Jazeera TV Channel fabricated footage recently of an allegedly new round of chemical weapons use by the Syrian army against civilians," the source said.

The fake video footage of the Syrian army supposedly using chemical weapons is expected to be posted on social networks through a European country, a source in military and diplomatic circles said on Thursday.

"The multiple and simultaneous posting of fabricated videos containing comments laden with high-pitched screaming is set to be rolled out in the coming several days [by Sunday] on a separate commands from the customer and the sponsor of the footage in one of the European countries," the source added.


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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 04 May 2017 21:07

Khan certified ct forces deadlocked mosul south
In new move the iraqi army pushes in from northwest

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/04/w ... -isis.html

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Bhurishravas » 05 May 2017 03:48

https://www.rt.com/business/387111-russ ... wheat-ban/
Russia to resume wheat exports to Turkey, Ankara told to keep tomatoes.

Ankara has withdrawn a 130 percent tariff on Russian grain following the meeting between Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan in Sochi.
The Wednesday meeting in Sochi between Putin and Erdogan did not solve the issue of Turkish tomatoes. Putin said Russian farmers have taken out significant loans to boost domestic production and construct greenhouse facilities, so lifting restrictions now will hurt them.
However, Turkey will sell tomatoes to Russia in seasons when the country can’t grow sufficient amounts. Before the deterioration in relations, 70 percent of Turkish tomatoes were exported to Russia.

:rotfl: :rotfl:
Putin does act smart sometimes.

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Postby Bhurishravas » 05 May 2017 03:52

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/04/worl ... .html?_r=0
Russia, Iran and Turkey signed a memorandum on Thursday to create four safe “de-escalation zones” in Syria, which if successful would be one of the most far-reaching steps to halt bloodshed in a war now in its seventh year.
The memorandum, circulated in advance by Russia at cease-fire talks in Astana, Kazakhstan, is rife with ambiguities. Some rebel representatives at the talks denounced the agreement as inadequate.
But the top United Nations envoy dealing with the conflict, Staffan de Mistura, who also was at the talks, called the memorandum an “important, promising, positive step in the right direction.” It was a significant endorsement from a diplomat who has struggled mightily to bring antagonists together for peace talks that have made no progress.

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Postby Y. Kanan » 05 May 2017 04:15

halt bloodshed in a war now in its seventh year


Wrong. 6th year...

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 05 May 2017 09:55

Tabqa town has fallen with 57 isis killed. Kurds decided to take no prisoners to teach a lesson.

A small area incl the dam in north of town is still in daesh hands

A unit of 300 fresh fighters from manbij broke the town defences.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 05 May 2017 09:59

Iraqi 9th div is finally crashing through outying colonies and industries of west mosul. Not khan trained for urban cqb but they are applying the hammer not to prolomg the 7 month long siege of lakhs of innocents. Scalpel in old mosul did not work

https://mobile.twitter.com/IraqiSecurit ... 76/photo/1

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 05 May 2017 10:00

They should in parallel go at tal afar using a brigade from eastern shore of mosul

No point waiting.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Gyan » 05 May 2017 12:16

USA Is trying to keep Iraqis bogged down in Mosul by wrong advice & Human rights shenanigans.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 05 May 2017 12:22

yes its clear they are wanting the mosul op to be never ending. the iraqi PM hosted a conference and took a stand to push ahead .. hence the new move.

i believe a refugee camp was flattened yesterday
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/vi ... 8-graphic/


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