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Levant crisis - III

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 13 Sep 2017 09:10

repub guard is clearing the Jafra area east of the airport. this is to permit air ops approach lane. it will also cut the route to Saker island. ISIS stands strong along the two rivers, the countryside is mostly empty and can be coloured yellow.

meantime, SDF has run up against stiff ISIS blocks on outskirt of DEZ industrial area
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Postby Singha » 13 Sep 2017 09:17

russians have brokered some deal to reopen the homs hama main highway in Idlib and permit the flow of supplies. they are hard at work building bridges to anyone Not(Nusra) and 'weaning' them with carrots with the threat of sticks in hymenim.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 13 Sep 2017 11:07

Singha wrote:the syrian army had these huge conventional bases in raqqa (division 17), DEZ (multiple), hasekeh, aleppo and pretty much was run like a regular army like IA. having lost all those bases, logistics, people they have become totally 'feral' and 'untethered' as you said and just found ways to survive and work with limited means.

the video said DEZ was down to 2 tanks.


do you think Indian Army needs to train with such feral & untethered types to understand 'next-gen' warfare instead of sterilized, organized exercises with US, Russian, Chinese armies.

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Postby Singha » 13 Sep 2017 11:18

^^ very true. we should embed with such low tech dispersed wars - why not send observer teams to syria, iraq, , kurdistan, houthis, myanmar, philipines and try to soak up as much as possible. give them some weapons and supplies in exchange for hosting us. the organized excercises we have are in the mould of a few basic drills , photo sessions, briefings, passage drills, comms drills.....the internal NATO exercises are much more warfighting oriented and realistic and so is our own internal exercises. one does not do these multilateral ex's to learn fighting but to 'build bridges' - this is also borne out by the 7th fleet complaints of near constant ex's with friendlies and reduced real training time

we have to learn to fight from our own ex's or embed with these low tech fights and kabilas to gather data points.

a truck with a loudspeaker blaring assad speeches in DEZ to irritate jihadis. good psyops play. we should use same in J&K right about when the 'death to kuffar' sermons are blaring out
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would be good if we can build some bridges and embed with the sub saharan/west central african type warlords and smugglers to see how they run the ecosystem over there, from bootleg oil refineries in nigerian coast to refugee smuggling through the sahara to stealing minerals from the vast tracts the so called empty areas throb with human ingenuity.

ultimately all human beings want to stay alive, plunder, eat, dominate, be the king of the hill, survive...we must appreciate and tap into these animal elemental instincts than be tight fisted about drills, dress, deportment and spit n polish routine - how do the houthis evade all the TFTA western sensors on saudi vehicles and get in close to lay ambushes? how do they hide from apache helis with their uber sensors in bleak lands much less wooded than our own?

need to be humble and stay as close to our roots in the soil as possible.

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the kind of physique and strength these west african rioteers have..what is their nutrition and training?
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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby deejay » 13 Sep 2017 12:07

The tweet from Channel 4 has a video (around 6 mins), in English. The video is more Human Interest than warfare and its about Raqqa. Good view of Raqqa though.

https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/907714065165963264

Found the Youtube version of it. 8 mins of it.


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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby deejay » 13 Sep 2017 12:54

Re discussions on tribal guerrilla unit kind of war fighting, actually if a large force is functional and command and control is still active it dos not make sense.

The level of training and trained manpower available is also a critical factor in how smooth and well oiled the war fighting capability is. The small tribe, solo advance kind of fighting is what remains once the large force/ command and control falls in IMO and every falling army will get reduced to it or surrender. SAA did not surrender and that is credit to them. Yes the Russians, Iranians, Hezbollah and other Shiite forces helped them but they held on.

On the other side of the Syrian border is a larger Iraqi Army but poorly trained. It is better equipped but lacks good field commanders. I found their fight in Mosul disjointed. While there are circumstances justifying their lack of coordination but the point of better training and coordination for better results hold.

Here is a video from VICE on the battle in Mosul. Watch till the end to understand the importance of better coordination between operating groups.


BTW, our Naxals and NE militants are exactly like this, except the terrain is jungle.

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Postby Singha » 13 Sep 2017 13:35

a lot of syrian generals and senior officers seem to be retired types or those eligible for discharge but still serving for lack of better replacements. same could be true for JCO and sergeant types who have actual experience. leithfadel has posted that two of his conscripted cousins are into their 7th year of service, not the maximum 3 thats part of policy. the iranians must have sent some number of senior officials too, for managing the militias umbrella formations. a few were killed in action.

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Postby Singha » 13 Sep 2017 20:54

isis tried two hit and run raids in iraqi desert and near t2 today ... hoping to slay some enemies and capture ghaneema (war booty)

but they were met on both sides by a new go to plan - the PMU and militias saw them approaching, abandoned camp asap and withdrew to depth positions safely ... zero kia or captured ... some small arms could be looted but does not matter in big picture ... neither they could remain at the overrun camps for fear of air attack or artillery so they withdrew to desert again.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/pi ... eir-ezzor/

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Mihaylo » 13 Sep 2017 21:01

Singha wrote:
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the kind of physique and strength these west african rioteers have..what is their nutrition and training?
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Genes.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Austin » 13 Sep 2017 22:00

African race would probably have the best survival skill

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Postby Singha » 13 Sep 2017 22:06

West central africa ie congo gabon cotedeivorie ghana nigeria seem to be the root node of explosive strength talent seen in sprints basketball amrikanfootball and football

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Austin » 13 Sep 2017 23:04

WikiLeaks‏Verified account @wikileaks https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/907970125910953984

Public records reveal that the Pentagon is shipping billions of dollars of arms to Syrian insurgents

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 14 Sep 2017 06:05

A while ago i posted a article where a lady reporter in bulgaria got details of acentral asian airline used to fly these weapons under diplomatic pass. She was fired from her job

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Postby Singha » 14 Sep 2017 06:10

Shades of purulia case here. Deep state beyond reach of potus running its own shadow games worldwide using mercs and third party oems

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 14 Sep 2017 07:18

great, just when one thought mosul was bad, comes al-qaim. no wonder the iraqis are giving it a wide berth for now
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/br ... t-conquer/

al bukamal is adjacent to it from syrian side and likely equally sympathetic.

which highlights the quixotic nature of the US attempt to capture bukamal with 500 new syrian army mercs trucked in from al tanf 100s of km away

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 14 Sep 2017 19:25

https://muraselon.com/en/2017/09/video- ... sis-syria/

more kalibr unloaded on dez from a kilo sub

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 14 Sep 2017 19:30

al masdar news

DAMASCUS, SYRIA (2:45 P.M.) – More troops arrive at the eastern city of Deir Ezzor as the Syrian Army readies final fight against the Islamic State.

The Army’s elite 4th Armored Division sent one of its highly-equipped brigades to take part in the anticipated standoff against ISIS in the oil-rich province.

The Brigade comprises of dozens of T72 tanks and hundreds of highly-trained soldiers who enjoy a hands-on experience in fighting the jihadi group in central Syria; namely the recently-liberated Aqirbat town.


The Syrian Army is amassing troops, vehicles and equipment in the government-held parts of Deir Ezzor in preparation to launch a massive offensive to re-take the ISIS-controlled parts of the city.

Yesterday, reports had it that Russian pontoon bridges were seen in action to help the Syrian forces cross to the eastern bank of the Euphrates.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 14 Sep 2017 21:42

Elijah J. Magnier‏ @ejmalrai 21h21 hours ago
Replying to @ejmalrai
Elijah J. Magnier Retweeted Elijah J. Magnier

As I understand the deal: whoever can reach an area under #ISIS can go ahead as long as no clashes btw SDF & SAA.Elijah J. Magnier added,
Elijah J. Magnier @ejmalrai

#BreakingNews :
#Russia #SAA and allies will cross on the east side of the Euphrates: agreement reach to push forces on the other side DEZ.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 14 Sep 2017 21:43

russis may have got the kurds onboard the above deal by offering this propsed manbij afrin land corridor away from FSA claws

Lucio Cienfuegos‏ @comcen76 Sep 12
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@Gargaristan

That's what the corridor
Manbij -Afrin
will look like

http://cpie.lima-city.de/corridor,jpg

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 14 Sep 2017 21:45

Nathan Ruser‏ @Nrg8000 22h22 hours ago
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#Map. The situation near Deir Ezzor city. Deconfliction between SAA and SDF will be a big issue in coming days.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJn76SdVAAAyuBz.jpg

^^ SAA on verge of getting into Saker island to secure north flank of the airbase

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Austin » 14 Sep 2017 22:01

Singha for you , Tu-22M in action in Recent Syrian Conflict


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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 14 Sep 2017 22:04

short video of some of todays kalibr action
https://twitter.com/mod_russia/status/9 ... 2789699586

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Postby Singha » 14 Sep 2017 22:07

they have always appeared over syria with 12 bombs each from mozdok in south ossetia instead of some 50-60 their real capacity to save on refueling and perhaps lack of large static targets needing that many bombs in one lot.

i am old fashioned meat n potatoes n beer type. i need the blackjack in iaf colours to feel good.

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Postby Karthik S » 14 Sep 2017 22:13

Singha wrote:they have always appeared over syria with 12 bombs each from mozdok in south ossetia instead of some 50-60 their real capacity to save on refueling and perhaps lack of large static targets needing that many bombs in one lot.

i am old fashioned meat n potatoes n beer type. i need the blackjack in iaf colours to feel good.


:rotfl: god willing, one day brother.

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Postby Austin » 14 Sep 2017 22:15

Singha wrote:they have always appeared over syria with 12 bombs each from mozdok in south ossetia instead of some 50-60 their real capacity to save on refueling and perhaps lack of large static targets needing that many bombs in one lot.


Low Stress Load , that is also the case of all the RUssia Aircraft fielded in Syria , Even Flanker dont carry more than 2 GPS Guided bomb ....The higher the payload you carry the higher is the stress they create on aircraft

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Postby Austin » 14 Sep 2017 22:17

All 3 Russian Bomber in Action in Syria , Note the Tu-95MS Carry the Kh-555 Cruise Missile , you can see the destabiliser on the nose and eft fuel tank caused by higher weight of conventional payload , Tu-160 is seen with Kh-101


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Submarines "Veliky Novgorod" and "Kolpino" hit the IG in Syria


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Postby Singha » 15 Sep 2017 12:35

a new pocket of isis between raqqa and dez
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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Philip » 15 Sep 2017 13:47

How I wish that we still had the Bears in service! My only hope is that Backfires are on their way to replace them.

The BBC and other scribes worldwide,were aboard a Russian FFG,similar to our Talwars.Great sight watching the launch of Kalibir missiles both from the FFG and Kilo subs. As the BBC correspondent said,Russia is showing off its confidence militaire in the Meditt./Syria and wants to be taken seriously as a "peacekeeper" in the region. There is one indisputable fact. Russia's involvement in Syria has seen its reputation and credibility dramatically change for the better by leaps and bounds. IT also underscores the impotence of the US and West in comparison,why even the Chines sent a naval flotilla to the Meditt to show the flag! Putin's Syrian gambit has paid off very handsomely,esp. in mil. weapon system orders,but also politically. M-Eastern states which rushed into the arms of Uncle Sam are now hedging their bets and ordering Ru weapons too. The beauty is that the conflict has proven the design and worth of Sov. era weaponry of the 20th century,decades old,still fighting fit and credible for the 21st. These weapons too come at much lower cost than modern Western ones and like KIlos subs,are being built at pace for both Ruy and exports orders.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... iddle-east
Moscow flaunts might against fading Isis as it alters balance of power in Syria
Carefully orchestrated journalists tour reveals Russia’s deep involvement in conflict – but few ordinary Russians appear keen on Syrian mission

Friday 15 September 2017 06.00 BST
“I recommend you to look in that direction,” said Maj Gen Igor Konashenkov with a smile, gesturing at the Mediterranean waters from aboard the Admiral Essen naval frigate.

Moments later, two whooshes of noise and smoke heralded the launch of seven cruise missiles by two submarines from Russia’s Black Sea fleet.

The Kalibr missiles, each with a half-tonne payload, hit Islamic State targets to the south-east of Deir ez-Zor around midday on Thursday, roughly an hour after launch, Konashenkov said. The town is a key strategic outpost in eastern Syria, where the Islamist fighters are in retreat. Opposition activists later said that at least 39 civilians were killed in airstrikes by Russian and US-backed coalition forces across the country.

Russia warns US its fighter jets are now potential target in Syria

Viewing the missile launch was the latest element of a tour for a group of Russian and foreign journalists, including the Guardian, of Russian activities in Syria, designed to show that Moscow is in control of both war and the peace in the country.

Each element of the trip has been shrouded in secrecy until it happens, with buses and transport planes boarded to unknown locations and an overnight journey by ship into the Mediterranean with no indication of what to expect.

The tour began with an overnight flight from a military airfield outside Moscow to the Khmeimim airbase near the coastal city of Latakia, where the Russian air force has been based since intervening in the conflict on the side of president Bashar al-Assad’s government in September 2015.

The trip has shown just how involved in the conflict Russia has become. It has taken place under the watchful eye of Konashenkov, the army’s main spokesman, who with his frequent televised briefings has become the face of Russia’s operations in Syria. Unlike his deadpan delivery on the podium, Konashenkov cuts a more colourful figure when on the road, littering his speech with metaphors and delivering long rants on journalistic ethics and western hypocrisy to correspondents, while puffing on slim cigarettes.

Suggestions of civilian casualties are dismissed as “political” and any suggestion that Russian and Syrian airstrikes have been indiscriminate is dismissed out of hand. Awkward questions are not encouraged during briefings.

In Aleppo, reached on Tuesday by a Soviet-era Antonov transport plane that descended at a hair-raising angle into the city’s airfield to evade anti-aircraft fire from the ground, a series of carefully choreographed stop-offs appeared designed to showcase Russia’s role in rebuilding the city.

Russian military police in Homs province Photograph: Shaun Walker for the Guardian
Large swathes of eastern Aleppo – parts of which were under rebel control until the end of last year – are still almost entirely deserted and in ruins, but reconstruction work has begun in parts of the city. At the central Saadallah al-Jabiri Square, which had been close to the front lines, workers laid new paving stones this week and a huge portrait of Assad now dominates the square.

At a school in the western part of the city, which remained in government hands throughout the fighting and was hit by a rebel rocket attack during the war, schoolchildren were singing patriotic songs as the journalists’ arrived and teachers relayed gratitude for Russian aid through Russian military translators.

At a later stop at the city’s Umayyad mosque, dating back to 715 and badly damaged during the war, the mufti of Aleppo, Mahmoud Akkam, was similarly on-message.

Akkam thanked Ramzan Kadyrov, the controversial Kremlin-backed leader of Chechnya, for a donation of $14m (£10.5m) to help rebuild the mosque and denied that any of the devastation to the mosque or the surrounding neighbourhoods was caused by Russian or Syrian government airstrikes. “It was all the terrorists,” he said. This was the line whenever ruins and devastation were encountered on the trip.

The next day the Russians showed off a mine removal centre outside Homs, where eight instructors flown in from Russia are giving hundreds of Syrian army recruits six-week crash courses in de-mining before they are sent into the field as sappers.

There was also a visit to one of four “de-escalation zones”, north of Homs, where a checkpoint has been set up to allow civilians to cross between government territory and areas controlled by the Free Syrian Army, moderate rebels.

Classes at the de-mining centre, Homs Photograph: Shaun Walker for the Guardian
Four of the zones were set up after talks in the Kazakh capital, Astana, in May. Russia, Turkey and Iran are the guarantors of agreements made there and Russian military police are guarding the checkpoint. Wearing red berets and traveling in new Tigr armoured vehicles with Russian and Arabic markings, the military police are playing a highly visible role on the ground.

Alexander Sazonov, the Russian officer in charge of the Homs de-escalation zone, said the Russians carry out regular communication with the opposition groups via Skype, and said there had been no major incidents in the two months since the crossing point had been set up. As the journalists arrived, four Russian trucks with humanitarian aid drove up right on cue, and the Russians doled out shiny plastic bags filled with basic foodstuffs and bearing a message in Russian and Arabic: “Russia is with you.”

Russian military police hand out aid outside Homs Photograph: Shaun Walker for the Guardian
As well as its on-the-ground peacekeeping role, Russia is still heavily engaged in air cover for Syrian and Iranian ground troops. Lieutenant general Alexander Lapin, the head of the Russian contingent in Syria, said Russian airstrikes had helped Syrian troops to break the three-year Isis siege around Deir ez-Zor last week, adding that only 15% of Syrian territory remains under the control of extremist Islamist groups.

“The operation to destroy the fighters of the Isis and Jabhat al-Nusra terrorist groups on Syrian territory will continue until their complete and guaranteed destruction,” he said.

Analysis Victory for Assad looks increasingly likely as world loses interest in Syria

States that were until recently committed to toppling the Syrian leader are now resigned to him staying

The Syria intervention has undoubtedly made Russia a major player in the Middle East and western demands that Assad step down have now largely been muted due to the new reality on the ground.

“On the surface, Russia’s Syrian adventure has been an unexpected success. The cost is relatively limited, and offset by the opportunity to use it as a marketing event for Russian weaponry,” said Mark Galeotti, senior researcher at the Institute of International Relations Prague.


The Syrian war has also been portrayed as Russia’s return to the global stage as a major player. Thursday’s missile launch was quickly relayed by the Russian journalists on board and published by Tass news agency to a hard rock soundtrack.

But the Syrian operation has failed to capture the imagination of ordinary Russians. A poll by the independent Levada Centre in early September found that just 30% of Russians wanted the military operation in Syria to continue.

Moscow “is essentially now locked in a war with no end in sight,” said Galeotti, as even the total defeat of Isis is unlikely to bring lasting peace to Syria.

For Konashenkov, the goal of the operation is to make Syria “a civilised, secular society” and he said the operation had been an important learning curve for the Russians. “The experience we’ve had in Syria has been absolutely invaluable for us,” he said. “We are at a completely different level now than we were just a few years ago. It is difference between a pencil and a pen – we still perform the same functions but everything is more beautiful, more reliable and more effective.”

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Austin wrote:Submarines "Veliky Novgorod" and "Kolpino" hit the IG in Syria



Result


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In Aleppo, reached on Tuesday by a Soviet-era Antonov transport plane that descended at a hair-raising angle into the city’s airfield to evade anti-aircraft fire from the ground,


The story is that after an Antonov landed at the old (Wellingdon Island) "Cochin Airport" in the 1980s, the trees at the end of the runway looked fashionably trimmed: it just flew straight through the branches. Another day, another mission, for the pilot.

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Postby Austin » 15 Sep 2017 18:07

Israel Demanded 60km Buffer but Russia Let Iranian Forces in Syria Approach the Border
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.812328

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 15 Sep 2017 18:20

http://www.yenisafak.com/en/world/idlib ... ps-2793638

it seems the future of idlib has been decided in astana talks. nusrats will be terminated. baki all will have a finger in the pie.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 15 Sep 2017 21:02

More details on astana accord. No role for usa in these peace zones

https://muraselon.com/en/2017/09/syria- ... one-idlib/

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 15 Sep 2017 21:04

Idea might be arm empower and arty/air/intel support the moderate jihadis when its time to slay the nusrats

That way no saa blood need be spilt

This also frees up saa first line forces to go hammer the isis in east. Once the east hama pocket is crushed in say 2 weeks i think more men and materials will permit a drive via t2 to mayadin and albukamal these will be hard fights being the last dens of isis in syria

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 16 Sep 2017 08:33

they have secured a site using boats and might be building a pontoon bridge now, SE of dez down the river

Elijah J. Magnier‏ @ejmalrai 21h21 hours ago
#SAA and allies are on the East side if the Euphrates after crossing the river & established a stronghold. Mayadeen-DEZ road is cut now.


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